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Soren A.

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Feb 18, 2002, 3:27:27 PM2/18/02
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Hello,

I am trying out "The Bat!" e-mail client on a Win98 machine to connect to
my IMAP server account. It seems to me that the claim that "The Bat!
supports IMAP" is pretty fraudulant, since I can only see local folders
set up by default by the program: "Inbox", "Sent", "Trash" etc. None of
the IMAP subfolders that exist (and are extremely important reason why I
am using IMAP) are visible, and I cannot find anything in the
documentation or on the Web about a way to make them so. This makes The
Bat's support for IMAP even more piss-poor than Pegasus Email's --
Pegasus has to download entire messages in order to move anything around
or even delete it (actually it doesn't delete messages; they disappear
from the Pegasus folder but are there again next time on the server, like
one of those horror movies with villains that cannot be killed...).

I know, "PC-Pine", I've read it before. I've also read about PC-Pine
crashing on Windows9x and bringing down the entire OS. No thanks.

Anybody got any info, or I suppose (I could hardly ask to not give me)
recommendations on a (non-Netscape) stable e-mail client for PCs running
'doze that actually really supports IMAP fully?

Thx,
Soren Andersen

Mark Crispin

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Feb 18, 2002, 4:14:03 PM2/18/02
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Soren A. wrote:
> I know, "PC-Pine", I've read it before. I've also read about PC-Pine
> crashing on Windows9x and bringing down the entire OS. No thanks.

And just where have you read that nonsense?

If you base your judgement about quality, reliability, functionality, and
performance, then PC Pine is the best IMAP client for the PC today. If
you based your judgement upon drawing pretty pictures, then you want a
different program.

Among other things, PC Pine was written by people who understand IMAP.
The IMAP protocol engine used by PC Pine was written by the fellow who
invented IMAP and wrote the IMAP specification.

-- Mark --

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Robert Mortimer

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Feb 19, 2002, 12:07:44 PM2/19/02
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allegedly Soren A. wrote <Xns91B99D3EA6...@64.8.1.227> :
[snip]

> Anybody got any info, or I suppose (I could hardly ask to not give me)
> recommendations on a (non-Netscape) stable e-mail client for PCs running
> 'doze that actually really supports IMAP fully?

Have a look at Mulberry, I've been using it for a while now and foudn
it to be rather excellent.
http://www.cyrusoft.com/

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Robm
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but what the stupid can do for me" - Graeme Garden

Jorey Bump

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Feb 19, 2002, 9:36:04 PM2/19/02
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Soren A. wrote:

> I know, "PC-Pine", I've read it before. I've also read about PC-Pine
> crashing on Windows9x and bringing down the entire OS. No thanks.

What rot. Pine is the best mail program on any platform. At least give 'Old
Reliable' a try.

Tzafrir Cohen

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Feb 26, 2002, 2:08:07 PM2/26/02
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Jorey Bump <dev...@joreybump.com> writes:

> Soren A. wrote:
>
> > I know, "PC-Pine", I've read it before. I've also read about PC-Pine
> > crashing on Windows9x and bringing down the entire OS. No thanks.

Not here. Windows 9x has many strange stability problems, and you might
have stumbled upon yet another one. I wouldn't blame poor old pine for it.

It generally works flawlessly here.

>
> What rot. Pine is the best mail program on any platform. At least give 'Old
> Reliable' a try.

The above sentence is partially true. Indeed, pine runs on many platforms
(More than netscape/mozilla ?) and is surely not as bloated as many mail
clients are. It also has many hidden features.

But pine is still not as intuitive as many other mailers are (those hidden
features are sometimes hidden quite deep)

Another problem that is specific to PC-Pine is that the pipe command is
meaningless, because you don't have a verity of commands accepting input from
stdin. This further limits usability.

--
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tza...@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir

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