X3D in linux
Daniel Garland
Has anybody been able to get X3D working in Linux? I found a few pages with
tips but no newsgroups etc. I'm getting errors with the SAI part.
Anybody else had this problem? Anyone know any good newsgroups etc.?
Cheers
Dan
Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI
I tested a few things with the Xj3D milestone 7 version under Linux
> I'm getting errors with the SAI part.
There is a mailinglist of Xj3D related problems, see
http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/xj3d.html
http://www.xj3d.org/snapshots.html
so long
MUFTI
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P. Flavin
Yes, the 'new' Xj3d program fails again.
Yes, the reliable Xj3d Loader still work.
X3d is intended to replace VRML.
VRML can be animated reliably in a browser
reliably with Java3d using the Sun VRML Loaders.
Sun created and gave to the Web3d.org and the
larger comumity of Web Animators and scientific
modelers the Xj3d Loaders for Java3d and they
have served us well.
Some are trying to replace those Xj3d Loaders
with the "new" Xj3d Loaders, and people
( just like you now ) have had lots of problems
with the 'new' Yumetech.com loaders.
The creators of the 'new' loaders have tried
to develop support for their problem plagued
program by a host of ciminal activities including
lies, fraud and slander and have included
federal employees in their illegal crimes
with willing participants at the NIST including
Sandy Ressler.
If you want to use Web3d.org's language for
3d web animation you and you want it to work
use the Working Loaders.
Web3d.org's VRML Animation Works with the good Xj3d Loaders
-----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html
http://www.xasa.com/grupos/comp/article.php?id=37300&group=comp.lang.vrml
The 'new' Xj3d Loaders failed again, not a suprise.
For people who want to animate Web3d.org's industry standard
language for 3d animation, for stability use the current
standard ( VRML ) and the old reliable loaders.
Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI wrote:
|
| > Has anybody been able to get X3D working in Linux?
|
| I tested a few things with the Xj3D milestone 7 version under Linux
|
| >> I'm getting errors with the SAI part.
|
| There is a mailinglist of Xj3D related problems, see
|
| http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/xj3d.html
| http://www.xj3d.org/snapshots.html
|
http://www.xasa.com/grupos/comp/article.php?id=37306&group=comp.lang.vrml
So Justin Couch is saying it's not Justin Couch's fault ?
Justin Couch is blaming the mailinglist ?
The reliable Xj3d Loaders still work.
Nasa Lets you control the Mars Rover with VRML & Java3d
-------------------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/Nasa_3d_animation.html
It doesn't do it with the old-style "windows only" plug-ins.
-- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animnator
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Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard
Daniel M Garland
Specifically, i'm faving probs building the source code. I've tried both
the stable version, cvs versions and development snapshot. I get
different errors each time and I appear to have everything installed
correctly.
Out of all the components they say you need on the website which ones
are actually essential to build? I.E dont need those Java IDEs do you?
Dan
P. Flavin
VRML can be Animated in a Browser with Java3d
---------------------------------------------
with __ NO __ changes to the Java policy,
with __ NO __ certificates,
with __ NO __ additional downloads
with Sun's Xj3d VRML Loaders
----------------------------
on any system configured to run Java3d which
includes most professional graphics systems including:
Windows, Linux, SGI Onyx, Sun Solaris & IBM AIX.
Daniel M Garland wrote:
>
> i'm having problems [ with Yumetech.com's 'new' Loaders
> for viewing Web3d.org's 3d file format ] building [ compiling ]
> the source code.
>
> I've tried both the stable version, cvs versions and
> development snapshot.
>
> I get different errors each time and I appear
> to have everything installed correctly.
>
> Out of all the components they say you need on
> the website which ones are actually essential to build ?
>
> Dan
>
http://xasa.com/grupos/comp/article.php?id=37331&group=comp.lang.vrml
Yes, that's not surprising.
There are lot's of problems with the 'new' loaders from Yumetech.
The 'new' Yumetech.com Xj3d Loaders often fail.
The 'new' Yumetech.com Xj3d Loaders often fail
where the older, reliable Xj3d Loaders __ work __.
If the Yumetech Loaders Fail, try the reliable Sun Loaders
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|
Nist, Navy PGS, NSF Fingerspelling Animations
-------------------- work in a browser: wihout problems.
|
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html
Nasa uses Java3d & VRML for Web Animation & Sun's Loaders
---------------------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/Nasa_3d_animation.html
Nasa's Dr. Koenig wrote :
|
| [ ____ False and Misleading claims follow ____ ]
|
|
| LOADER PROBLEMS [ No, Dr. Koenig's follies ]
|
| When I run an applet from the [ Nasa's ] FastScript3D
| web site, particularly one that is trying to load a
| vrml or other file in, I get error messages about
| security vialations in the Java console window.
|
| Nothing is displayed. What is wrong?
|
|
| If you are running an applet located on a
| remote web site that is loading 3D models
| or other files, you will often get this message.
|
| To fix the problem, you can relax you security
| to enable you to read the files. Click here to
| read Sun's documentation on the policy permissions
|
| and ___ associated ____ risks. _____
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
http://fastscript3d.jpl.nasa.gov/faq.html
___Risks ___ Security on the Web ___
~~~~~~~~~~~~ is important and it is important to
deal with this issue honestly in a professional and
responsible way and your unprofessional unhelpful
conduct is irresponsible and harmful.
It is irresponsible for you Dr. Koenig to encourage
people to reduce the Security setting of their browser
when there is ____ ABSOLUTELY __ NO __ REASON ___
for them to do so.
Please do __ NOT __ repeat the LIES of Yumetech fraudsters.
Ms. Koenig your statments demonstrate
a serious lack of intelligence and integrity
--------------------------------------------
and your statements in agregate are misleading
and inaccurte with respect to the important issue of
___ Animating 3d in a Browser ___ with Java3d and VRML
and your false statements are consistant with the
False and Fraudulent and Criminal Conduct of Yumetech
liars Justin Couch and Alan Hudson.
The Sun VRML Loaders can animate VRML in a browser
______ without ______ changing the security setting.
Dr. Koenig: You are a liar or a fool.
Sincerely,
-- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator
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Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard
Nasa's Dr. Koenig wrote :
|
| [ ____ False and Misleading claims follow ____ ]
|
| FastScript3D is the easiest way to make 3D web pages
| ------------------------------ and learn about Java3D !
|
http://fastscript3d.jpl.nasa.gov/
Nasa's Dr. Koenig wrote :
|
| [ ____ False and Misleading claims follow ____ ]
|
| Simplifies Sun's Java3D for web use
|
http://fastscript3d.jpl.nasa.gov/
Patti, Web Animation should and can be simple and safe.
Your statements and programs make it
___ less ___ safe and ___ less ___ simple
--- and that is bad, unnecessary, and undesirable ---
We need better solutions that are ___ easy and safe ___
and your solution is inferior for no reason other than
your ignorance and arrogance, Dr Koenig.
We need solutions that are portable and reliable
and ones that help scientists, students, and web users
and be free of the limitations, problems, expense, and
dangers of Microsoft's inferior products criminally
foisted on consumers by Microsoft's illegal anti-competitive
practices in violation of US anti-trust laws.
We need government employees to do their jobs with integrity.
You have failed thus far: Repent and Sin no more.
Thank you.
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http://www.mail-archive.com/java3d-...@java.sun.com/msg25976.html
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FileLoaders for Java3D: the Sun vs. the 'new' xj3d Loaders
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| H-Anim and MPEG-4 are dependendent on
| implementing technologies, of which Java3d
| is one of the best available to us and both
| H-Anim and MPEG-4 have been held back
| by misperceptions, false statements, and
| unethical conduct.
|
| The VRML Loaders from Sun provided
|
| the highest level of functionality for
| loading VRML files into Java3d ...
|
| -- and still do --
|
| ~~ please ~~ correct me ... if any other
| VRML loader is more capable for loading
| VRML into Java3d and rendering it with
| animation. ...
|
| Recently Justin Couch wrote vulgar and false statements
| regarding the functionality of the VRML Loaders
| developed at Sun, his statements were challenged by a
| Sun engineer: ...
|
http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/web3d-mpeg/hypermail/2001/0159.html
False and Fraudulent uncorrected claims by Justin Couch
and the unreliable publisher Prentice-Hall have falsely
claimed the Sun VRML Loaders cannot animate Web3d.org's
VRML based H-Anim Loaders: They can and they do animate
VRML models including US Navy PGS, NIST, and NSF models
including Finger Spelling for the Deaf animations.
Navy, NSF, NIST, Web3d.org Human models animated w. Java3d
----------------------------------------( VRML & H-Anim )
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html
</ BlockQuote >
|
http://www.mail-archive.com/java3d-...@java.sun.com/msg25976.html
Giles
> Thanks for the tips so far.
>
> Specifically, i'm faving probs building the source code. I've tried both
> the stable version, cvs versions and development snapshot. I get
> different errors each time and I appear to have everything installed
> correctly.
> Out of all the components they say you need on the website which ones
> are actually essential to build? I.E dont need those Java IDEs do you?
>
> Dan
process to get the whole thing going.
We have installers for windows, and a compiled tarball for UNIX users.
Look at for Xj3D-M7-unix.tar.gz. I know that Linux users have used
the system, but I'm not sure of the exact configurations that they
used.
http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/xj3d.html#download
The best place to keep abreast of changes in this code is the mailing
list. To subscribe send a message to majo...@web3d.org and in the
body of the message put: subscribe source your...@foo.bar
Daniel M Garland
those who are to use linux, be prepared to spend a bit of time sodding
around getting the CLASSPATH varible set correctly.
I might say though that the xj3d website was particularly unhelpful. I
went all round the houses downloading and installing things like Rhino
when you didn't really need it. I still have not build it from source
however.
Thanks also for the tip on how to join the mailing list, that wasn't on
the site anywhere either.
Dan
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