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Greasyfries

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Sep 20, 2001, 9:05:15 PM9/20/01
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"Seattle's Cinerama will start screenings of the digitally restored Stanley
Kubrick classic Oct. 5, with December dates set for L.A.'s Egyptian Theatre,
San Francisco's Castro and the Uptown in Washington, D.C."


Theo Gluck

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Sep 20, 2001, 10:06:17 PM9/20/01
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this was also in today's Variety

Fdu...@aol.com

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Sep 20, 2001, 10:43:48 PM9/20/01
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Greasyfries wrote:

> "Seattle's Cinerama will start screenings of the digitally restored Stanley
> Kubrick classic Oct. 5, with December dates set for L.A.'s Egyptian Theatre,
> San Francisco's Castro and the Uptown in Washington, D.C."


Thgis still leaves open the question as to their using the Cinerama
screen in Seattle. There has been conflicting reports here and
elsewhere on that. The Uptown would be closest for me, but I'd be
concerned about print quality by that time. Hopefully we will get
updates as the films makes its run. In one way its kind of a shame to
see it at the Egyptian. The Chinese has a screen better suited being
both larger and curved. Of course I'd rather see it wait for the
Cinerama Dome to be reopened. Speaking of that, does anyone have any
updates on the work or any idea of aprox reopening date? Frank

Paul Linfesty

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:59:04 PM9/21/01
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The 70mm Egyptian dates in LA are December 20-January 1. The Variety-sorced
article is wrong however in stating the film hasnt been re-issued in70mm
since its 1968 release. WAY wrong.
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MLUTTHANS

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Sep 21, 2001, 6:59:40 PM9/21/01
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Last word I had is that they are using the "flat" screen at the Cinerama in
Seattle, after months of saying they would be using the curved one.

Given the choices, I would see it at the Uptown.

--Matt Lutthans, Seattle

Eric Carter

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Sep 21, 2001, 7:35:09 PM9/21/01
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The Castro runs 2001 from November 21 - December 6.

Eric


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Vincent Pereira

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Sep 22, 2001, 1:13:52 AM9/22/01
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Greasyfries wrote:

Digitally restored???

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Robert Spies

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Sep 22, 2001, 2:55:14 AM9/22/01
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> Last word I had is that they are using the "flat" screen at the Cinerama in
> Seattle, after months of saying they would be using the curved one.

That's what I understand as well. Very disappointing.

Following is an e-mail I sent to a "questions for Paul Allen" address
I found at his web site. Haven't received a response yet.
_________________________ Forwarded ________________________
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:49:09 -0700
To: askPau...@paulallen.com
From: Robert Spies <rbs...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Issue With Upcoming 2001 Screening at Seattle Cinerama

Hi Paul,

I'm sending you this message since you were the reason for the
Seattle Cinerama's restoration (thanks!). The press release at the
time the restored theatre opened included a statement that "True to
its namesake, the new Cinerama also features a completely restored
curved Cinerama screen for special presentations of 70mm Cinerama
classics like 2001: A Space Odyssey." Since then, I've been
eagerly awaiting the day I could see 2001 projected on a Cinerama
screen again.

But I understand from theatre personnel that, when a new 70mm print
of 2001 opens there on October 5, it will only be projected on the
theatre's regular flat screen. The manager on duty when I called
told me that this was being done because "setting up the Cinerama
screen would be too much trouble".

I consider this a real shame. My understanding is that the 70mm
single-projector Cinerama process that was used for 2001 would work
with the new print. I was actually ready to fly my family up to
Seattle (we live the SF Bay Area) so my sons could experience 2001
the way I originally got to see it.

Do you know about this? Is there a good reason for not showing
2001 on the Cinerama screen? If not, would you have any interest
in doing a little jawboning to get whoever is in charge of the
screen decision to reconsider?

Thanks.

Robert Spies
rbs...@yahoo.com

Fdu...@aol.com

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Sep 22, 2001, 8:05:59 AM9/22/01
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I suppose they recall the terrible problems that screen had the one day
they used it. Its a huge expenisve mistake in that it simply is not a
true Cinerama screen since the strips were installed totally wrong. This
could be easily corrected with some string between the strips, or far
less easier by remounting each strip and adding more so they overlap
properly. That wou;ld also require new mounting brackets. I suppose
also working against it is the day needed to install it properly.
Beyond this its sad to see that 2001 will not play on a true Cinerama
screen anywhere. The closest would be the Uptown although their screen
in no longer a strip version. I suppose the last question I would have
here is near hopeless? That being will the 70mm version have the
original Cimnerama logo in the print? Frank

davi...@cinerama.org

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Sep 22, 2001, 12:47:44 PM9/22/01
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Fdu...@aol.com wrote:

Hi all....to think that this new facility is almost useless is a crime. TIC is already in the process of
reprint for Pacific - so what happens when HTW3 is ready for Seattle ? Show it on the flat
screen!!!!!????. Anyway, Frank, I can tell you that the words 'in Cinerama' (not the Logo) were on the new
70mm print I saw earlier this year on the Cinerama screen in Bradford. It was the one thing many of us
were waiting to see!". Best. David.

Fdu...@aol.com

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Sep 22, 2001, 2:16:25 PM9/22/01
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davi...@cinerama.org wrote:

>
> Hi all....to think that this new facility is almost useless is a crime. TIC is already in the process of
> reprint for Pacific - so what happens when HTW3 is ready for Seattle ? Show it on the flat
> screen!!!!!????. Anyway, Frank, I can tell you that the words 'in Cinerama' (not the Logo) were on the new
> 70mm print I saw earlier this year on the Cinerama screen in Bradford. It was the one thing many of us
> were waiting to see!". Best. David.


Well, thats the first good news I've heard. However its a film that
will only be shown "in Cinerama" at Bradford I guess. As for Seattle,
I would think the Cinerama screen, flawed as it is, would have to be
used for any 3 strip films. I think the problems they had that one day
may possibly prevent it ti being used again for a long time, if at all.
Damn, I hope I'm wrong. Like you say, all the money, all the plans, all
the equipment, and we have one day of use. For what its worth, it
wasn't THAT bad that one day. The problems only showed up when the air
vents came on high and blew directly on the screen vibrating the strips
apart. Hey, maybe it would be easier and cheaper to redirect the vents
than correct the screen. Frank

SGuttag

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Sep 23, 2001, 12:59:16 AM9/23/01
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The Uptown in DC is slated to play 2001 in 70MM starting November 2nd for two
weeks.

Steve

Peter Mason

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Sep 27, 2001, 12:01:53 AM9/27/01
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Vincent Pereira <vper...@monmouth.com> wrote in message news:<3BAC1E0F...@monmouth.com>...

> Greasyfries wrote:
>
> > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010920/en/film-space_1.html
> >
> > "Seattle's Cinerama will start screenings of the digitally restored Stanley
> > Kubrick classic Oct. 5, with December dates set for L.A.'s Egyptian Theatre,
> > San Francisco's Castro and the Uptown in Washington, D.C."
>
> Digitally restored???

Going by another recent post, perhaps a digital 35MM SRD print?

REGARDs
Peter Mason

Morgan Montague

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Sep 27, 2001, 12:21:01 AM9/27/01
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So is anyone attending the Seattle showing. I probably be going to the
Sunday, Oct. 7th.

Morgan in Portland, OR


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Fdu...@aol.com

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Sep 27, 2001, 5:52:55 AM9/27/01
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Morgan Montague wrote:
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> So is anyone attending the Seattle showing. I probably be going to the Sunday, Oct. 7th.

I briefly considered it but living 3000 miles away I'd never go to see
it on a standard screen. Some of us however are talking about perhaps
meeting at the Uptown in November. At least the Uptown screen is
semi-right for the film. Ahh, if it only was still a strip screen.
Frank

Eric Carter

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Sep 28, 2001, 1:23:35 AM9/28/01
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What are the dates for the Uptown engagement?

Eric


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MLUTTHANS

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Sep 28, 2001, 2:32:06 AM9/28/01
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Morgan wrote:

<< So is anyone attending the Seattle showing. I probably be going to the
Sunday, Oct. 7th. >>

As for me.....not unless they do a major about face and use the Cinerama
screen. I'm planning on flying to DC to see it at the Uptown, probably on the
10th of November.

Sure, I could drive a few minutes down the road to see it at the "Cinerama,"
but it's the principal of the thing! I just can't bring myself to do it.
(Although I may drop in just to have a point of comparison.)

--Matt Lutthans, Seattle

Bill Kretzel

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Sep 29, 2001, 1:36:21 AM9/29/01
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But... if the Seattle deeply curved screen wasn't properly installed
anyway (and by ALL accounts, it wasn't)... and the Uptown screen isn't
the genuine article either, then what "principle" is at stake here?
It's 2001... not 1968!

Frank Dubiel

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Sep 29, 2001, 7:49:46 AM9/29/01
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Bill Kretzel wrote:
>
>
> But... if the Seattle deeply curved screen wasn't properly installed
> anyway (and by ALL accounts, it wasn't)... and the Uptown screen isn't
> the genuine article either, then what "principle" is at stake here?
> It's 2001... not 1968!

As the Godizalla ads said---Size does matter! At least Uptwon is a
standard Cinerama "solid" screen like was at the Dome and many places in
latter years. The principle is to get as close as possible if we can't
get exactly. But now it seems Seattle may use the big screen after
all, so all bets are on hold. FRank

Steve Kraus

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Sep 29, 2001, 9:25:27 AM9/29/01
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Bill Kretzel wrote:
> But... if the Seattle deeply curved screen wasn't properly installed
> anyway (and by ALL accounts, it wasn't)...

What exactly is the problem there? Strips not pointed just so? For the
record neither was Dayton.

David Mullen

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Sep 29, 2001, 11:27:08 AM9/29/01
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>As the Godizalla ads said---Size does matter! At least Uptwon is a
>standard Cinerama "solid" screen like was at the Dome and many places in
>latter years.

Well, isn't the solid screen at both theaters a less curved D-150 screen?
(Actually, I think that's all the curvature that a normal 70mm print should
be subjected to - I've seen "2001" projected in 70mm on the Cinerama Dome's
D-150 screen and due to the angle of projection, the Discovery always looks
a little banana-shaped.)

I've always thought that deeply curved screens were better suited for
three-projector Cinerama, where it seemed easier to hold focus across the
width.

David Mullen


SGuttag

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Sep 29, 2001, 11:45:43 AM9/29/01
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The Uptown's screen (one-piece) is on the same frame as the strips so the
curvature is the same.

Eric...the Uptown's 2001 playdates commence on 11/2/01 and plays for two-weeks.

Steve

Martin Hart

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Sep 29, 2001, 2:39:25 PM9/29/01
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In article <gLlt7.3367$cp1.4...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
dav...@earthlink.net says...

> >As the Godizalla ads said---Size does matter! At least Uptwon is a
> >standard Cinerama "solid" screen like was at the Dome and many places in
> >latter years.
>
> Well, isn't the solid screen at both theaters a less curved D-150 screen?
> (Actually, I think that's all the curvature that a normal 70mm print should
> be subjected to - I've seen "2001" projected in 70mm on the Cinerama Dome's
> D-150 screen and due to the angle of projection, the Discovery always looks
> a little banana-shaped.)

The banana shape was due to the projectors being a tad too high for the
screen. The theatre was built wrong, pure and simple. Three strip could
play just fine at that angle but a single film gets an unpleasant bend.



> I've always thought that deeply curved screens were better suited for
> three-projector Cinerama, where it seemed easier to hold focus across the
> width.

In the days of 70mm Cinerama, focus, at least at the theatres where I saw
it, was quite acceptable.

Marty
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The American WideScreen Museum
www.widescreenmuseum.com

Martin Hart

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Sep 29, 2001, 2:44:06 PM9/29/01
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In article <3BB5CB...@filmteknik.com>,
screenBL...@filmteknik.com says...

The problem with Seattle's screen is that the young "experts" that put
the thing in wouldn't pay any attention to the information given them.
They didn't understand why the louvres were needed. The louvres don't
face the back of the theatre, they follow the curvature of the screen.
Additionally they don't overlap as they should. This makes for a single
piece screen that's got about 1,500 slits in it. Surprisingly, cross
reflections aren't as bad as one would expect but when the A/C comes on
it blows on the screen causing the unsupported strips to move. This gives
the appearance of severe and I mean SEVERE scratching of the film.

MLUTTHANS

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Sep 30, 2001, 2:35:00 AM9/30/01
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In case you haven't heard, we (primarily Dave Strohmaier) were able to sway
some opinions, and the curved screen is now going to be used at the Cinerama in
Seattle for 2001. The press preview on 10/2 will be on the flat screen,
between screenings of Apoc. Now, but the 2-week regular run of 2001 will take
place on the Cinerama screen, beginning on Friday, 10/5.

I guess I'll have to save my trip to DC for a different occasion.

--Matt Lutthans, Seattle

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