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Crash2000

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Jun 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/2/00
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Hmm, read somewhere that if a post is signed then it cannot be canceled
by 3rd parties, is this correct???


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Crash2000

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Stray Cat wrote:

>
> On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:26:24 GMT, Crash2000 <Cras...@crash.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Hmm, read somewhere that if a post is signed then it cannot be canceled
> >by 3rd parties, is this correct???
>
> Wrong.
>
> --
> You can contact me by posting to alt.anonymous.messages, ATTN: Stray Cat
> New PGP Key. All others are obsolete.
> PGP Key: 0x0CC6E051 finger: Stra...@nym.alias.net
> Nym address is disabled. Don't send mail there.
> DSS/Diffie-Hellman PGP Keys Will NOT Be Accepted.

what about this cancel lock, thingy???

Steffen Duenner

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Jun 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/3/00
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

"Stray Cat" <Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:smdgjsodnpc5p3ept...@news1.stray.cat.edu...


> On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:26:24 GMT, Crash2000 <Cras...@crash.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Hmm, read somewhere that if a post is signed then it cannot be
> > canceled by 3rd parties, is this correct???
>
> Wrong.

[...]

It can not be changed by 3rd parties. Or better: it can be changed by
3rd parties but you will notice this after verification of the
signature.

CU... Steffen.
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Steffen Duenner

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

"Stray Cat" <Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

news:kflgjso1q84huasmq...@news1.stray.cat.edu...


> On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:24:07 +0200, "Steffen Duenner"
> <steffen...@uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
[...]
> >It can not be changed by 3rd parties. Or better: it can be changed
> >by 3rd parties but you will notice this after verification of the
> >signature.
> >
> >CU... Steffen.
>

> I think you need to read the original post again. It didn't ask
> anything about changing a post.
[...]

I know. You told him that signing doesn't avoid the cancel. I
explained to him what the signing of a message is good for instead.
:)

CU...Steffen.
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PGP/RSA-ID 0xCCE2E989

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Crash2000

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Steffen Duenner wrote:
> It can not be changed by 3rd parties. Or better: it can be changed by
> 3rd parties but you will notice this after verification of the
> signature.
>

thanks, this is good to know too! will do more research on this!

is it in the pgp docs or elsewhere?

Crash2000

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Jun 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/3/00
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Stray Cat wrote:
>
> On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 03:24:51 +0200, "Steffen Duenner"

> <steffen...@uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> >"Stray Cat" <Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >news:kflgjso1q84huasmq...@news1.stray.cat.edu...
> >> On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:24:07 +0200, "Steffen Duenner"
> >> <steffen...@uni-duesseldorf.de> wrote:
> >[...]
> >> >It can not be changed by 3rd parties. Or better: it can be changed
> >> >by 3rd parties but you will notice this after verification of the
> >> >signature.
> >> >
> >> >CU... Steffen.
> >>
> >> I think you need to read the original post again. It didn't ask
> >> anything about changing a post.
> >[...]
> >
> >I know. You told him that signing doesn't avoid the cancel. I
> >explained to him what the signing of a message is good for instead.
> >:)
> >
> >CU...Steffen.
>
> Well, then next time you want to inform someone, followup to that
> someone, not me, OK?

>
> --
> You can contact me by posting to alt.anonymous.messages, ATTN: Stray Cat
> New PGP Key. All others are obsolete.
> PGP Key: 0x0CC6E051 finger: Stra...@nym.alias.net
> Nym address is disabled. Don't send mail there.
> DSS/Diffie-Hellman PGP Keys Will NOT Be Accepted.

Hehe, fight it out you two!!

any ways thanks to both of you guys, for the much needed info!

Marcin Tustin

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Jun 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/4/00
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In article <39389C85...@crash.ca>, Cras...@crash.ca
says...

> Steffen Duenner wrote:
> > It can not be changed by 3rd parties. Or better: it can be changed by
> > 3rd parties but you will notice this after verification of the
> > signature.
> >
>
> thanks, this is good to know too! will do more research on this!
>
> is it in the pgp docs or elsewhere?
>
Yes, that's the whole point of signatures...Wht, did you
think that they were a haha. (Sorry to flame you, but you have to
RTFM)
--
Humanity will not be happy until the day when the
last bureaucrat has been hanged with the guts of
the last capitalist.

Marcin Tustin
PGP Key at http://www.anarchist99.freeserve.co.uk/marcintustin.txt
Mar...@mindless.REMOVEGOATS&OATS.com
Marcint@^^refreshmagazine.com.nomail <-- Do not use at this time

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Crash2000

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Jun 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/5/00
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brother I've read the manual, the read me's, web-pages, etc...

I didn't find my answer so i posted here for more help!

isn't that the point of the n/g to talk about pgp!

if not what is the point of the n/g!

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Crash2000

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Jun 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/5/00
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yuck it's fucking spam! must be a shit program if you got to spam it!

Marcin Tustin

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Jun 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/5/00
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In article <393B2600...@crash.ca>, Cras...@crash.ca
says...

> brother I've read the manual, the read me's, web-pages, etc...
>
> I didn't find my answer so i posted here for more help!
>
> isn't that the point of the n/g to talk about pgp!
>
> if not what is the point of the n/g!


Fair enough, but it's clear as day in the docs:
(From the introtocrypto.pdf included with pgp6.5.1i)
p.18 of An Introduction to Cryptography (Accessible from the
contents pane)
Digital signatures

A major benefit of public key cryptography is that it provides a
method for
employing digital signatures. Digital signatures enable the
recipient of
information to verify the authenticity of the information’s
origin, and also
verify that the information is intact. Thus, public key digital
signatures
provide authentication and data integrity. A digital signature
also provides
non-repudiation, which means that it prevents the sender
fromclaiming that he
or she did not actually send the information. These features are
every bit as
fundamental to cryptography as privacy, if not more.
A digital signature serves the same purpose as a handwritten
signature.
However, a handwritten signature is easy to counterfeit. A digital
signature is
superior to a handwritten signature in that it is nearly
impossible to
counterfeit, plus it attests to the contents of the information as
well as to the
identity of the signer.
Some people tend to use signatures more than they use encryption.
For
example, you may not care if anyone knows that you just deposited
$1000 in
your account, but you do want to be darn sure it was the bank
teller you were
dealing with.

Marcin Tustin

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Having been the target of "I high priest, you
newbie"-style flames for having th etemerity to ask
questions about Linux, and criticised others in the past
for it, I suppose I owe you an apology for it. Sorry. It
*can* get overwhelming.
- --

Humanity will not be happy until the day when the
last bureaucrat has been hanged with the guts of
the last capitalist.

Marcin Tustin
PGP Key at
http://www.anarchist99.freeserve.co.uk/marcintustin.txt
Mar...@mindless.REMOVEGOATS&OATS.com
Marcint@^^refreshmagazine.com.nomail <-- Do not use at this
time

KeyID 0x86D72550
Fingerprint DDD9 FB07 4C2F 9A79 C860 C391 D672 364C 86D7
2550

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