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Orange on remailer network founders, remailer softwares, pingers, and users

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The Painful Truth about Orange

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Jun 30, 2001, 8:44:26 AM6/30/01
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:34:26 +0200 (CEST),
orange...@generalprotectionfault.net wrote:

>> and I think that is what users expect
>> and apparently they are voting with their messages remailed though
>> Frog/Frog2
>
>1st. Users arn't "voting" on anything (read on as Ill explain my theory).
> For the most part users simply go for high stats/low lat.
>
> I wonder about the implications of your constantly manually
>sorting mail/redirecting/storing mail on
> broken links etc. While it does the job of creating a high
>availability remailer, you are shifting the
> dynamics of the remailer network in some important ways.
>
> What you are doing is masking the actual status of the remailer
>network by doing so.
> Yes, it makes you more reliable, but rudimentary users never learn
>that particular links >do not work<
> because you take thier mail to a hopeless remailer and store
>it/alias it/send it elsewhere/whatever
> and they never learn that thier chain is bad, and hence continue
>to use it. The end result being a huge
> glut on the network and alot of users who will only use frog
>because they cant figure out why thier mail/chains
> wont work on other remailers ("it always goes through with frog,
>but not on any others remailers").

So:
>Users arn't "voting" on anything (read on as Ill explain my theory).
> For the most part users simply go for high stats/low lat.

You mean that:
remailing founders were wrong when mesauring reliability
people writing remailer clients are wrong when integrating stats
pingers are wrong when doing their job
people are wrong when using those stats and those clients
People should only use the remailers whose remop boasts:
"I am secure"

Of course, there has been plenty of evidence over the last 14 months that
your remailer was unreliable, because of your tantrums, technical
ineptitude and lack of focus.

In addition, you despise users, whose "mail belongs to the bit bucket"

And you want to "teach them a lesson" by dumping their mail, plain and
simple
Of course, you dont know that whole Internet was born from cold war:
messages go though even if a link is broke, it takes longer that is all

In the meantime, you CHEAT the STATS
Orange's clock is one hour late so that ping answers seem to have been
emitted sooner,
and your latency is marked as 0 instead of 50 minutes
(while you hardly process anythong else but pings
who would use a "NOT SO REMAILING REMAILER"


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