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Wally Keeler

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Jul 8, 2001, 8:49:29 PM7/8/01
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Hello Romanian racist assholes:
This is to advise those Romanians that when Canada hosts them at its
universities, they are not to piss on the carpet with their homegrown racist
bile. Below is an email which had been sent to the Head of the Computer
Science Dept of the University of British Columbia and also sent to all the
faculty of North American Universities where the Romanian graduate student,
Marius Laza, had worked with associates. Those associates were quite diverse
and was prudent to inform them of Mr Laza's racist inclinations, as to
whether they would wish to colaborate with the like of such an individual.

This is called freedom of speech. Nothing here censors Mr Laza. He is free
to pontificate his poison all he wants, and others are free to disseminate
their opinions of Mr Laza's poisons. Freedom of speech is wonerful when it
sabotages the careers of racist assholes.

I'd advise all Romanians on this newsgroup to inform their compatriot youth
to keep their racist attitudes to themselves when they step outside their
Homeland.

========================================
Mr Robert J. Woodham he...@cs.ubc.ca
Head of Computer Science Dept
University of British Columbia

Dear Mr Robert J. Woodham and Computer Science Faculty members & associates

Below are three published remarks made by Marius Laza of the Theory Group of
the Computer Science Department of the University of British Columbia. Mr
Laza, who came to Canada from Romania 6 years ago to continue his education,
utilized the computer services of the University of British Columbia to
broadcast the exampled racist, anti-Semitic remarks onto the internationally
public Usenet newsgroups.

It is one thing for Mr Laza to utilize the internet services of a private
ISP at his own expense, but quite another to utilize the taxpayer-funded
university ISP to spread his racist anti-Semitic remarks.

The University of British Columbia has a reputation around the world as
providing a high quality of education to a wide diversity of students of all
ethnicities/nationalities/religions from Canada and abroad. When Mr Laza
utilizes a publicly-funded ISP to spread such racist commentary it reflects
on the university as well as on Mr Laza.

Surely a graduate computer student of the University of British Columbia is
not ignorant of the workings of the Usenet Newsgroups, that these are open
to the public to read. Mr Laza knew what he was publishing and knew that the
University of British Columbia e-mail tag was there to be seen by all, but
his racist passions exceeded the courtesy and common sense to refrain from
such odious commentary.

I recommend that you surf to www.dejanews.com and enter "marius laza" into
the search engine. You will be able to bring up the three samples I
reproduce below, but also many other postings by the same author. Some
postings are in Romanian, the author's mother tongue, and I have been
advised that they contain similar remarks about "ungari" (Hungarians),
tigani (Roma/Gypsies) among others.

Mr Laza should be well-advised by university authorities that such racist
anti-Semitic remarks are grossly inconsistent with the respect that should
be accorded towards the host, the University of British Columbia, the host
country, Canada, because it violates the central credo of this country,
respect for ethnic/national/religious diversity.

His anti-Semitic remarks on the soc.culture.jewish public board earned
several admonishments from offended Jews. The same with his unpleasant
postings on the other public fora.

I trust you will take the most appropriate action to ensure that such abuse
of the University of British Columbia ISP does not occur again and that Mr
Laza is informed that such racist, anti-Semitic commentary via the UBC ISP
is unwelcome.

On June 29, 2001, Marius Laza published, via the University of British
Columbia computer/internet system, the following racist remarks about
Gypsies (Roma) in Canada on the internationally public newsgroup board:
soc.culture.yugoslavia:
|========================================|
| From: Marius Laza (la...@cs.ubc.ca)
| Subject: Re: Greeks love their Roma
| Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
| Date: 2001-06-29 11:38:51 PST
|
| What shit! Why don't you take the Gypsies to your country if you
| like them? They will turn it into (even worse) shit in no time -
| guaranteed! If the Greeks are tough on them, they are quite
| right to do so. Good work Greeks!
|=======================================|

On September 17, 2000, Marius Laza published, via the University of British
Columbia computer/internet system, the following self-declared hate-message
against another nationality sanctioning not only violence, but violence "in
the most painful ways" on the internationally public newsgroup boards:
soc.culture.Yugoslavia and soc.culture.Albanian:
|======================================
| From: Marius Laza (la...@cs.ubc.ca)
| Subject: Re: What Are Servian Friends For?
| Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia, soc.culture.Albanian
| Date: 2000/09/17 (September 17, 2000)
|
| Previous poster wrote:
| > THE ONLY DIFF BETWEEN ZLOB AND ADOLF HITLER IS THAT ZLOB DID
| > NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS ADOLF DID,
| > BEFORE HE WAS STOPPED BY NATO!
|
| Too bad all the atrocities were just stories. If I had been in
| Slobo's place, I would have actually tried to kill the Albanians
| in a much bigger fashion and in the most painful ways. And I am
| not even a Serb.
|
| With all my hatred
| Marius
|=================================================|

On September 17, 2000, , Marius Laza published, via the University of
British Columbia computer/internet system, the following anti-Semitic
comment on the internationally public newsgroup boards: soc.culture.jewish:
|==================================================|
| From: Marius Laza (la...@cs.ubc.ca)
| Subject: Re: Intermarriage
| Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
| Date: 2000/09/17
|
| I hope guys like Benjamin Hurwith do not talk about tolerance
| and acceptance. Being against someone of my religion marrying
| someone of your religion is the the worst insult. Do not expect
| anything good from people you offend grossly. Until you give up
| the "chosen people" nonsense, you deserve no good. Which
| explains a lot, if you think of it.
|===========================================|


=========================================
Email reply from the head of the Computer Science Dept of UBC:
=========================================
On July 3, 2001, I received two email messages from you. One was
sent to he...@cs.ubc.ca with subject line ``Letter of Protest.''
The other was sent to a number of UBC people with subject line
``Abuse of UBC isp'' and cc:'d to he...@cs.ubc.ca

Both the UBC Department of Computer Science and the University as
a whole have Acceptable Use Policies for our computing, networking
and related facilities.

I have requested that my Departmental Computing Committee recommend
appropriate action in response to the complaints that you and others
have made concerning Marius' recent Usenet postings.

I thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

Sincerely,
Bob Woodham


Canuck

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Jul 9, 2001, 1:29:24 AM7/9/01
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What that guy did was wrong and what you do by incriminating all Romanians

of being racist is the same .

I live in Toronto, Canada and as a Canuck with Romanian heritage I am
offended by

your attitude toward peoples who came here from Romania.

Not all the Romanians in Canada are "pissing on the carpet" like you said
and as an example

just last month Romanian students where presented on CBC Radio as being
involved

in a revolutionary study on cancer.

You have to admit that that you did is very similar with what Laza did

and if you want to see a racist and an idiot try to look in the mirror... I
bet you will se one.

"Wally Keeler" <wke...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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RomaRespector

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Canuck <r...@techie.com> wrote in message
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> What that guy did was wrong and what you do by incriminating all Romanians
> of being racist is the same .
>
> I live in Toronto, Canada and as a Canuck with Romanian heritage I am
> offended by your attitude toward peoples who came here from Romania.
>
> Not all the Romanians in Canada are "pissing on the carpet" like you said

I said no such thing and perhaps it is best that you learn to comprehend
English. My address is towards "Romanian racist assholes" and "those
Romanians". It does not refer to "all the Romanians". Comprehend?

> and as an example
> just last month Romanian students where presented on CBC Radio as being
> involved
> in a revolutionary study on cancer.
>
> You have to admit that that you did is very similar with what Laza did

Bullshit.

> and if you want to see a racist and an idiot try to look in the mirror...
I
> bet you will se one.

Only the racist is Laza and the only idiot would be you looking over my
shoulder. Learn to read and comprehend English.

Ashkiutza

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Jul 9, 2001, 8:48:29 AM7/9/01
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Tiganii romani terorizeaza un oras francez


Oamenii se tem sa mai iasa la piata de frica hotilor de buzunare


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Piata centrala din orasul francez Choisy-le-Roy este un loc pestrit unde
localnicilor le placea sa vina sa-si faca cumparaturile. De aproape un an insa,
ei se confrunta cu problemele create de tiganii romani care s-au instalat in
niste cladiri care urmeaza a fi demolate si terorizeaza localnicii.
In piata din Choisy-le-Roy domneste un sentiment de insecuritate, atit in
rindul vinzatorilor, cit si al cumparatorilor, din cauza furturilor repetate,
insultelor si agresiunilor. Ultimul incident a avut loc doar cu citeva zile in
urma, cind o comercianta a fost jefuita in plina zi. Femeia, care vinduse mere,
a fost atacata de un grup de trei indivizi, care au pindit momentul cind s-a
apucat sa-si numere banii. Unul dintre agresori a imbrincit-o, iar complicii
i-au furat banii si telefonul. Femeia a facut imediat plingere la comisariat,
dar acum se teme sa-si mai parcheze camioneta linga linia ferata, deoarece
familiile de tigani locuiesc in cladirile parasite din aceasta zona. Localnicii
ii acuza pe acesti "romani hoti", care vin sa cerseasca, sa fure din cosuri si
de pe tarabe, sau sa schimbe saci intregi cu monede, marea majoritate furate.
La inceputul acestui an, 1000 de localnici au semnat o cerere adresata
primarului, prin care solicitau prezenta politiei in piata. De trei luni,
politistii patruleaza in zona, dar numarul lor este prea mic pentru a face fata
valului de delicte comise de tiganii romani. Primaria este constienta de
problemele create de acestia si se pregateste sa dicteze expulzarea lor, masura
fiind extrem de asteptata de localnici.

Exista si francezi care ii apara pe tigani

Intr-un mod cu totul inexplicabil insa, la Choisy-le-Roy si la Orly, unde se
afla, de asemenea, imigranti ilegali din Romania, s-a format un Comitet de
sustinere a familiilor de romani*, organizatia declarindu-se "nelinistita" de
amenintarea cu expulzarea care planeaza asupra acestora. Tiganii romani
locuiesc de mai multe luni ilegal in imobilele destinate demolarii. Tribunalul
le-a dat termen de trei luni sa paraseasca locuintele, dupa care, in caz ca nu
se vor conforma deciziei, urmeaza a fi expulzati. Comitetul insa se opune
oricarei expulzari si cere prefectului regiunii sa nu puna in practica decizia
tribunalului "pentru ca aceste familii s-ar trezi in strada fara nici o solutie
pentru problema locuintei".
CAMELIA MUNTEAN


*si astia e tot tigani?

Canuck

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Jul 9, 2001, 11:19:23 AM7/9/01
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> I said no such thing and perhaps it is best that you learn to comprehend
> English. My address is towards "Romanian racist assholes" and "those
> Romanians". It does not refer to "all the Romanians". Comprehend?

I think I did...
Here is what you said in your posting :

>> I'd advise all Romanians on this newsgroup to inform their compatriot
youth
>> to keep their racist attitudes to themselves when they step outside their
>> Homeland.

What should I comprehend from what you said there ?
You advise ALL ROMANIANS to inform THEIR RACIST YOUTH to keep
their mouth shut when outside Romania.

Newsflash for you : It is NOT OK in Romania to be a racist.
There are laws there against that and beside that Romanians are not a racist
and sovin nation.
If you go there you will see how many mix Hungarian-Romanian ,
Gypsy-Romanian ,
Arab-Romanian , Jewis-Romanian families are there.What Laza said reflect
just his personal
opinion and tring to extrapolate his atitude as being a comon place among
romanian youth is
NOT right.

> Bullshit.

Tipical answer from a racist and intolerant asshole like you.
Why don't just say clearely that you hate all imigrants and what Laza did
just gave you a reason to spill
some poison against romanians who live or just happend to be in Canada to
study or to work.

> Only the racist is Laza and the only idiot would be you looking over my

Yeah , Laza is an Idiot but he is not the only one.
Me looking over your shoulder... I don't think so cause I don't think
I can atand the stinch coming from your poisoned brain.

> shoulder. Learn to read and comprehend English.

Yes, you're right , I'm just an STUPID IMMIGRANT who doesn't speak english
perfectly and that makes me "ein untermench".

I think is the right time for you to step out of the closet and speak your
mind.
There are a lot of groups interested in what you have to say.. try KKK first
and If they reject you , maybe Skynheads will be more that happy to welcome
you.
I don't really comprehend why your nick changed to RromaRespector ,
you're much better described by something like Romanian_Hater
or even better Immigrants_Hater.

spataru

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Wally Keeler <wke...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Hello Romanian racist assholes:
sper ca comprehend romanian, daca nu ma pis pe ma'ta.
sugi pula. o fut pe ma'ta. ii trag muie lu sor'ta. ma cac pe tac'tu. ma
sterg la cur cu tine si cu tot familionu tau de ratati. sa ma bei la oo,
muistule.

Se intelege ca Lucian

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>From: "spataru" mui...@p.com

>sugi pula. o fut pe ma'ta. ii trag muie lu sor'ta. ma cac pe tac'tu. ma
>sterg la cur cu tine si cu tot familionu tau de ratati. sa ma bei la oo,
>muistule.

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Arhanghelu

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"OALI KILAR" wke...@sympatico.ca pukes his customary poison:

>
>Hello Romanian racist assholes:

This individual was nicknamed Oali Kilar on scr. One of his "hobbies" is to
claim that gypsies are persecuted in Romania.

>This is to advise those Romanians that when Canada hosts them at its
>universities, they are not to piss on the carpet with their homegrown racist
>bile. Below is an email which had been sent to the Head of the Computer
>Science Dept of the University of British Columbia and also sent to all the
>faculty of North American Universities where the Romanian graduate student,
>Marius Laza, had worked with associates

Nowhere in the text that these clowns forwarded to the university is there a
substantiation of anti-Semitic remarks. Of course Oali was offended by Mr. Laza
"dissing" the gypsies and their criminal lifestyle in Romania and Europe.
If anybody would, please translate for Oali, our resident moron, the text about
gypsies from Romania terrorizing that French town.

Unfortunately Mr. Laza is not the most charismatic individual himself, however
to be framed by this bunch of bullies and would be net censors is unfair and
should not be tolerated.

You can help by inquiring if there were any consequences suffered by Mr. Laza,
for voicing his opinions, and if so by writing letters of support to the
university in Mr. Laza's behalf.


RomaRespector

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Canuck <r...@techie.com> wrote in message
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> > I said no such thing and perhaps it is best that you learn to comprehend
> > English. My address is towards "Romanian racist assholes" and "those
> > Romanians". It does not refer to "all the Romanians". Comprehend?
>
> I think I did...
> Here is what you said in your posting :
>
> >> I'd advise all Romanians on this newsgroup to inform their compatriot
> >> youth
> >> to keep their racist attitudes to themselves when they step outside
their
> >> Homeland.
>
> What should I comprehend from what you said there ?
> You advise ALL ROMANIANS to inform THEIR RACIST YOUTH to keep
> their mouth shut when outside Romania.

I advise ALL ROMANIANS to inform THEIR COMPATRIOT YOUTH to keep their racist
attitudes to themselves.
I advise All Romanians to inform their compatriot youth who all have racist
attitudes to keep them to themselves.

Note the diference?

> Newsflash for you : It is NOT OK in Romania to be a racist.

That's why Funar gets elected.

> There are laws there against that and beside that Romanians are not a
racist
> and sovin nation.

Oh really? It's the only nation in the world where no one exhibits racism?
You are stupid. Canada grows plenty of its own -- that's why we don't need
to import any more from other countries.

> If you go there you will see how many mix Hungarian-Romanian ,

I know. Vatra Romaneasca is a leader of the mixing credo.

> Gypsy-Romanian ,

Not according to the Romani from Romania that I have personally met.

> Arab-Romanian , Jewis-Romanian families are there.

Which is why Rabbi Moses Rosen found it so difficult to find Jews willing to
leave. And why there are so many Jews there now. Sure.

> What Laza said reflect
> just his personal
> opinion and tring to extrapolate his atitude as being a comon place among
> romanian youth is
> NOT right.

It is more common than your bullshit od denying that there is absolutely no
racism in Romania. You are a liar.

> > Bullshit.
>
> Tipical answer from a racist and intolerant asshole like you.

Typical from one who absurdly claims that there is none. I have attacked
racist Canadians when they post stuff like Laza. I note that you are one who
ignores racist bigotted comments from your own people on this thread, but
only foreigners. You are two-faced liar.

> Why don't just say clearely that you hate all imigrants

Because that is not the truth. I married one. :-)

> and what Laza did
> just gave you a reason to spill
> some poison against romanians who live or just happend to be in Canada to
> study or to work.

Your accusation is not grounded in fact.

> > Only the racist is Laza and the only idiot would be you looking over my
>
> Yeah , Laza is an Idiot but he is not the only one.
> Me looking over your shoulder... I don't think so cause I don't think
> I can atand the stinch coming from your poisoned brain.

And you are a liar, propagandist idiot.

> > shoulder. Learn to read and comprehend English.
>
> Yes, you're right , I'm just an STUPID IMMIGRANT who doesn't speak english
> perfectly and that makes me "ein untermench".

You made that claim, not me. You extrapolate stupidly.

> I think is the right time for you to step out of the closet and speak your
> mind.
> There are a lot of groups interested in what you have to say.. try KKK
first
> and If they reject you , maybe Skynheads will be more that happy to
welcome
> you.
> I don't really comprehend why your nick changed to RromaRespector ,
> you're much better described by something like Romanian_Hater
> or even better Immigrants_Hater.

You are stupid knee-jerk idiot. I have been many nicks.


>
>
>
>
>


RomaRespector

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Some "Tiganii romani terorizaza..."
But I am sure Canuck won't find this extrapolation offensive, after all the
author is an ethnic compatriot.


Ashkiutza <ashk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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RomaRespector

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spataru <mui...@p.com> wrote in message
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> Wally Keeler <wke...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:L6727.8443$as2.3...@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Hello Romanian racist assholes:
> sper ca comprehend romanian,

The subject is "assholes"; the adjectives are "Romanian" and "racist" --
those are qualifiers.

> daca nu ma pis pe ma'ta.
> sugi pula. o fut pe ma'ta. ii trag muie lu sor'ta. ma cac pe tac'tu. ma
> sterg la cur cu tine si cu tot familionu tau de ratati. sa ma bei la oo,
> muistule.

Pula putz to you too


RomaRespector

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Arhanghelu <arhan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "OALI KILAR" wke...@sympatico.ca pukes his customary poison:
>
> >
> >Hello Romanian racist assholes:
>
> This individual was nicknamed Oali Kilar on scr. One of his "hobbies" is
to
> claim that gypsies are persecuted in Romania.

There were never any Romani village burnings, so the claim goes.

> >This is to advise those Romanians that when Canada hosts them at its
> >universities, they are not to piss on the carpet with their homegrown
racist
> >bile. Below is an email which had been sent to the Head of the Computer
> >Science Dept of the University of British Columbia and also sent to all
the
> >faculty of North American Universities where the Romanian graduate
student,
> >Marius Laza, had worked with associates
>
> Nowhere in the text that these clowns forwarded to the university is there
a
> substantiation of anti-Semitic remarks.

Jews will determine that. Some advise me that Laza made an anti-Semitic
remark.

> Of course Oali was offended by Mr. Laza
> "dissing" the gypsies and their criminal lifestyle in Romania and Europe.

Bullshit. I was dissing him using government-paid isp for his racist
hate-messages.

> If anybody would, please translate for Oali, our resident moron, the text
about
> gypsies from Romania terrorizing that French town.

And the Romanians who looted and burned Romani villages all over Romania.

> Unfortunately Mr. Laza is not the most charismatic individual himself,
however
> to be framed by this bunch of bullies and would be net censors is unfair
and
> should not be tolerated.

He was not framed. He was quoted directly. His own words did him in.

> You can help by inquiring if there were any consequences suffered by Mr.
Laza,

I hope there were. Foreigners do not piss on the carpet of foreign
countries, but go ahead and lobby for your compatriot.

> for voicing his opinions, and if so by writing letters of support to the
> university in Mr. Laza's behalf.

By all means, go ahead, explain that Canadian taxpayers should subsidize
(welfare) Romanians to spread hate messages.

RomaRespector

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Some more intelligence for Canuck to be proud of.

Se intelege ca Lucian <domnul...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Ashkiutza

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"RomaRespector" wrote:

>Some "Tiganii romani terorizaza..."
>But I am sure Canuck won't find this extrapolation offensive, after all
>the
>author is an ethnic compatriot.

What'a fuck respector means? Comes from "respect"? Maybe some kind of gitanes
inspector?

Canuck

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> I advise ALL ROMANIANS to inform THEIR COMPATRIOT YOUTH to keep their
racist
> attitudes to themselves.
> I advise All Romanians to inform their compatriot youth who all have
racist
> attitudes to keep them to themselves.
>
> Note the diference?

There is no diference in the message you try to pass here.

> > Newsflash for you : It is NOT OK in Romania to be a racist.
>
> That's why Funar gets elected.

The former P.M. of Austria is a certified NeoNazi. I did not hear anybody
saying to
the austrian youth to keep their mouth shut once they cross the border.

>
> > There are laws there against that and beside that Romanians are not a
> racist
> > and sovin nation.
>
> Oh really? It's the only nation in the world where no one exhibits racism?

You fucking shit... read again what I said there. I did not said that there
are no racist , I said that
you're not entitled to put the blame like you did on ALL ROMANIAN YOUTH.

> You are stupid. Canada grows plenty of its own -- that's why we don't need

don't say... let me guess... you and the ones like you ?


> to import any more from other countries.

You fucking asshole , the immigrants are not merchandise you import or
export.
From my tax money your stupid parents are geting their pension and you dare
to talk
about immigrants like that ?

>
> > If you go there you will see how many mix Hungarian-Romanian ,

You don't now shit about Romania.In my hometown the percentage of mix
Hungarian-Romanian
fomilies is almost 15%.


>
> I know. Vatra Romaneasca is a leader of the mixing credo.

KKK does exist in Canada. Will you advise ALL CANADIAN YOUTH to keep their
mouth shutt ?
Thecanadians MP's from BC and Alberta made racist remarks against chinese
emigrants... is Canada
a racist nation ?

>
> > Gypsy-Romanian ,
>
> Not according to the Romani from Romania that I have personally met.

This is your stupidest remark... no Gypsy-Romanian mixed families.
Who the hell told you that there are none and how come that you're so
stupid to belive that.

>
> > Arab-Romanian , Jewis-Romanian families are there.
>
> Which is why Rabbi Moses Rosen found it so difficult to find Jews willing
to
> leave. And why there are so many Jews there now. Sure.

I don't know anything about Mr. Moses Rosen dificulty to attract Jewish
people
from Romania to emigrate in Israel.I have two jewish friends who went there
but
only one decided to stay , the other one is in London England. I asked him
why he moved to England and he told me that Israel is a very unsure country
and he does not want to see his childrens killed , sad but true.
Now about the Jewish population in Romania :
As you know (or maybe you dont) there was a war in Europe. Durring that war
Romania at the begining joined the Axis (Germany Italy and Japan) and the
goverment
at the time was af pro-nazi orientation. There where some masacres (pogrom)
against the
Jews and according to some sources hundreds of people where killed. This is
a black page in Romanian
History book and there are no excuses for what happend then.
But... in the same time among the Romanian Jewish the ideea of going to
Palestine to make their own state
to avoid persecution was very popular.
Antonescu , the Romanian dictator, was more inclined to leave the jews to
go in Palestine and to
avoid a bloodbath like the ones in Germany , Hungary , Italy ,Croatia and
the other states
who where allied with the germans.
The Jews from Romania where among the first who started the struggle for
Israel.
In Tel-Aviv you will hear peoples speaking in Romanian , they have papers
and radio stations
in Romanian.They do not hate the Romanians and I met some of them who came
back to visit their
homeland, and I say Homeland because they still refer to Romania as Home.
This is one of the reasons you will not find too many Jewish people living
in Romania today.
Another reason is that many Jews actually like to live there and see no
reason to leave.
Is this that hard to belive ?

>
> > What Laza said reflect
> > just his personal
> > opinion and tring to extrapolate his atitude as being a comon place
among
> > romanian youth is
> > NOT right.
>
> It is more common than your bullshit od denying that there is absolutely
no
> racism in Romania. You are a liar.

Show me where I said that before you call me a liar.

> Because that is not the truth. I married one. :-)

You imported one ? Mail order or you picked her up yourself ?

>
> Your accusation is not grounded in fact.

Yeah right!

>
> And you are a liar, propagandist idiot.

Look who's talking. Try to read more than the postings on the Internet.
A history book might help to understand what happend there.

> You made that claim, not me. You extrapolate stupidly.

Do I ? All over the posting you're making me an idot and a stupid and the
only reason was that I made some english grammar mistakes.
I understand very well who you are. you're like those Pro-life activists who
KILL
doctors involved in abortions. There is no difference among the extremists
no matter
which is the cause the fight for.And you are an extremist , you don't like
the racists
then you should hate yourself too.

>

>
> You are stupid knee-jerk idiot. I have been many nicks.

Why do you need so many nicks ? Are you a profesional activist or something
?
Once you find a cause , any cause , you change your nick and start your work
?

> By all means, go ahead, explain that Canadian taxpayers should subsidize
>(welfare) Romanians to spread hate messages.

They subsidize idiots like you. How many Romanians do you know on welfare ?
Fucking shithead braindead asshole you say that Romanians come here to stay
on welfare ?
Why don't you go to Ottawa to protest against this ?
You said the you don't hate immigrants then why would you make a remark like
that ?
FYI 99% of the Romanians who came in Canada have jobs , and usually in high
tech industry.

>Some "Tiganii romani terorizaza..."
>But I am sure Canuck won't find this extrapolation offensive, after all the
>author is an ethnic compatriot.

I said , and I repeat, Laza is an idiot , never tried to defend that asshole
but you're keep accusing
ALL ROMANIANS of being racists,good for nothing welfare losers and so on.
I found offensive the news about Romanian Gypsies targeted like mad dogs all
over Europe .
The same thing happened in Ireland , Austria , Germany and many other
countryes.
They all condemn the Romanian gypsies in block like you do with Romanians.
Why don't you try to see the peoples as they are. Racism is not a national
attribute.
Not all Romanians are racists , NOT ALL ROMANIAN YOUTH are racist , NOT ALL
GYPSIES FROM ROMANIA ARE THIEVES.
But you don't want to see the truth , accusing Romanians as a Nations is
just what you like to do.

Let me advise your doctor to increase your medication and maybe that way you
will
feel better and stop bugging peoples with your hate and stupidity.

spataru

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RomaRespector <Rr...@sympatico.ca> is vomiting:

>
> Because that is not the truth. I married one. :-)
>
do they let faggots marry each other in canada, cocksucker?
get the fuck out of this ng, hairy legs bitch, go shit on fags ng,
mottafuckin crossdresser. you fuckin cocklickin retard punk!


RomaRespector

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Stupid. Just the kind of compatriot Canuck likes


RomaRespector

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>
> RomaRespector <Rr...@sympatico.ca> is vomiting:
> >
> > Because that is not the truth. I married one. :-)
> >
> do they let faggots marry each other in canada, cocksucker?

not yet, but gays can adopt, teach, etc. my little Romanian bigot.

> get the fuck out of this ng,

No I will not. Make me,

>hairy legs bitch, go shit on fags ng,

Do you have a bigotry here? But I am sure your compatriot Canuck approves of
you.

> mottafuckin crossdresser. you fuckin cocklickin retard punk!

Are you a typical Romanian?


RomaRespector

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> > I advise ALL ROMANIANS to inform THEIR COMPATRIOT YOUTH to keep their
> racist
> > attitudes to themselves.
> > I advise All Romanians to inform their compatriot youth who all have
> racist
> > attitudes to keep them to themselves.
> >
> > Note the diference?
>
> There is no diference in the message you try to pass here.

Yep, there is.

> > > Newsflash for you : It is NOT OK in Romania to be a racist.
> >
> > That's why Funar gets elected.
>
> The former P.M. of Austria is a certified NeoNazi. I did not hear anybody
> saying to
> the austrian youth to keep their mouth shut once they cross the border.

The point is your stupid jingoistic assertion that it is not OK to be a
racist in Romania. Then why Funar gets re-elected?

> > > There are laws there against that and beside that Romanians are not a
> > racist
> > > and sovin nation.
> >
> > Oh really? It's the only nation in the world where no one exhibits
racism?
>
> You fucking shit... read again what I said there. I did not said that
there
> are no racist , I said that
> you're not entitled to put the blame like you did on ALL ROMANIAN YOUTH.

Then write it correctly and write what you mean, stupid.

> > You are stupid. Canada grows plenty of its own -- that's why we don't
need
>
> don't say... let me guess... you and the ones like you ?

You haven;t proven that. But I don't make stupid assertion that my country
is not racist.

> > to import any more from other countries.
>
> You fucking asshole , the immigrants are not merchandise you import or
> export.

Didn;t say they were merchandise, asshole.

> From my tax money your stupid parents are geting their pension and you
dare
> to talk about immigrants like that ?

They get it from themselves. They paid into their mutual funds. What mutual
funds did you contribute into for them, or are you assuming they get Old Age
Pension.

> > > If you go there you will see how many mix Hungarian-Romanian ,
>
> You don't now shit about Romania.In my hometown the percentage of mix
> Hungarian-Romanian
> fomilies is almost 15%.

So?

> > I know. Vatra Romaneasca is a leader of the mixing credo.
>
> KKK does exist in Canada. Will you advise ALL CANADIAN YOUTH to keep their
> mouth shutt ?

I advise all Canadian youth to keep their racist attitudes to themselves
when abroad. I advise all Canadian youth to refrain from trafficking in
narcotics when abroad. That includes you.

> Thecanadians MP's from BC and Alberta made racist remarks against chinese
> emigrants... is Canada
> a racist nation ?

Of course. And Funar?

> > > Gypsy-Romanian ,
> >
> > Not according to the Romani from Romania that I have personally met.
>
> This is your stupidest remark... no Gypsy-Romanian mixed families.

I didn't say mixed families. Learn to read and comprehend English dimwit.

> Who the hell told you that there are none and how come that you're so
> stupid to belive that.

No one & it is not what I said, stupid.

> > > Arab-Romanian , Jewis-Romanian families are there.
> >
> > Which is why Rabbi Moses Rosen found it so difficult to find Jews
willing
> to
> > leave. And why there are so many Jews there now. Sure.
>
> I don't know anything about Mr. Moses Rosen dificulty to attract Jewish
> people
> from Romania to emigrate in Israel.

Of course you don't. You are uninformed about this aspect of your homeland.

>I have two jewish friends who went there
> but
> only one decided to stay , the other one is in London England. I asked him
> why he moved to England and he told me that Israel is a very unsure
country
> and he does not want to see his childrens killed , sad but true.

So?

There is only a handful. You need to read more written by Jews.

> > > What Laza said reflect
> > > just his personal
> > > opinion and tring to extrapolate his atitude as being a comon place
> among
> > > romanian youth is
> > > NOT right.
> >
> > It is more common than your bullshit od denying that there is absolutely
> no
> > racism in Romania. You are a liar.
>
> Show me where I said that before you call me a liar.

Look above when you assert that Romania is not racist.

> > Because that is not the truth. I married one. :-)
>
> You imported one ? Mail order or you picked her up yourself ?

I said I married one. Do you have a problem understanding English?

> > Your accusation is not grounded in fact.
>
> Yeah right!

Yes, right.

> > And you are a liar, propagandist idiot.
>
> Look who's talking. Try to read more than the postings on the Internet.
> A history book might help to understand what happend there.

I spent time there, and I have plenty of books.

> > You made that claim, not me. You extrapolate stupidly.
>
> Do I ? All over the posting you're making me an idot and a stupid and the
> only reason was that I made some english grammar mistakes.

Read again.

> I understand very well who you are. you're like those Pro-life activists
who
> KILL
> doctors involved in abortions.

Except that I am pro-choice, always have been. I guess your ability to
surmise and extrapolate are difficient.

> There is no difference among the extremists
> no matter
> which is the cause the fight for.And you are an extremist , you don't like
> the racists
> then you should hate yourself too.

But I don't because I am not one.

> > You are stupid knee-jerk idiot. I have been many nicks.
>
> Why do you need so many nicks ? Are you a profesional activist or
something
> ?
> Once you find a cause , any cause , you change your nick and start your
work
> ?

petite securitate nosiness.:-)

> > By all means, go ahead, explain that Canadian taxpayers should subsidize
> >(welfare) Romanians to spread hate messages.
>
> They subsidize idiots like you.

Prove it.

> How many Romanians do you know on welfare ?

The UBC (University of British Columbia) connection Laza used was subsidized
by taxes.

> Fucking shithead braindead asshole you say that Romanians come here to
stay
> on welfare ?

Didn't say that. Learn to read & comprehend.

> Why don't you go to Ottawa to protest against this ?

No need to.

> You said the you don't hate immigrants then why would you make a remark
like
> that ?

It was in reference to Marius Laza & his ilk.

> FYI 99% of the Romanians who came in Canada have jobs , and usually in
high
> tech industry.

Are you sure it is not 97%. Which study determined that?

> >Some "Tiganii romani terorizaza..."
> >But I am sure Canuck won't find this extrapolation offensive, after all
the
> >author is an ethnic compatriot.
>
> I said , and I repeat, Laza is an idiot , never tried to defend that
asshole
> but you're keep accusing
> ALL ROMANIANS of being racists,good for nothing welfare losers and so on.

I did not.

> I found offensive the news about Romanian Gypsies targeted like mad dogs
all
> over Europe .
> The same thing happened in Ireland , Austria , Germany and many other
> countryes.

Of course. Never said it didn't.

> They all condemn the Romanian gypsies in block like you do with Romanians.

Except that is not true. Read & comprehend.

> Why don't you try to see the peoples as they are. Racism is not a national
> attribute.

Didn't say it was.

> Not all Romanians are racists ,

Didn't say they were.

>NOT ALL ROMANIAN YOUTH are racist , NOT ALL
> GYPSIES FROM ROMANIA ARE THIEVES.

Didn't claim any of this.

> But you don't want to see the truth , accusing Romanians as a Nations is
> just what you like to do.

Nope. Thta;s your ill-founded accusation.

> Let me advise your doctor to increase your medication and maybe that way
you
> will
> feel better and stop bugging peoples with your hate and stupidity.

Go tell it to your compatriot, Marius Laza & Funar & their ilk.


Ashkiutza

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"RomaRespector" wrote:

>Ashkiutza <ashk...@aol.com> wrote in message

>> What'a fuck respector means? Comes from "respect"? Maybe some kind of


>gitanes
>> inspector?
>
>Stupid. Just the kind of compatriot Canuck likes


If respector means stupid and Canuck is your compatriot, then what's your
problem man?

Canuck

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> > >
> > > That's why Funar gets elected.
This shows that you hav no fucking ideea about Romanian politics.
Funar is just a harmless big mouth idiot who likes to shock everybody
with his attitude . The real Evil there is Vadim Tudor , who preaches
killing people, specially the Jewish and the Gipsy, and turning the country
into a dictatorship.

> racist in Romania. Then why Funar gets re-elected?

You are repetitive litle idiot....


> > you're not entitled to put the blame like you did on ALL ROMANIAN YOUTH.
>
> Then write it correctly and write what you mean, stupid.

Read what I said there cretin !!


> You haven;t proven that. But I don't make stupid assertion that my country
> is not racist.

So Canada is a racist country ?You are a real jerk to talk like that about
this wonderful country.

> > KKK does exist in Canada. Will you advise ALL CANADIAN YOUTH to keep
their
> > mouth shutt ?
>
> I advise all Canadian youth to keep their racist attitudes to themselves
> when abroad. I advise all Canadian youth to refrain from trafficking in
> narcotics when abroad. That includes you.

Is there a name for your disease ?
Keep giving advises when nobody asked for them is not a normal
behaviour. I hope that OHIP covers the treatment and if they don't just
write me an e-mail and
I will ask all the Romanians currently on welfare to donate some money.

In the end I want to advise you to kiss my Romanian-Canadian ass
shit-brain.

RomaRespector

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Canuck <r...@techie.com> wrote in message
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> > > >
> > > > That's why Funar gets elected.
> This shows that you hav no fucking ideea about Romanian politics.
> Funar is just a harmless big mouth idiot who likes to shock everybody
> with his attitude . The real Evil there is Vadim Tudor , who preaches
> killing people, specially the Jewish and the Gipsy, and turning the
country
> into a dictatorship.

How can that be when you claim that Romanins are not a racist nation. Either
it is or isn't. Or maybe you claim there exists such as thing as only half
pregnant.

> > racist in Romania. Then why Funar gets re-elected?
>
> You are repetitive litle idiot....

We all know how Funar loves Hungarians. We all know how wonderful Vatra
Romaneasca is.

> > > you're not entitled to put the blame like you did on ALL ROMANIAN
YOUTH.
> >
> > Then write it correctly and write what you mean, stupid.
>
> Read what I said there cretin !!

Write it correctly, asswipe. And learn to comprehend English as well.

> > You haven;t proven that. But I don't make stupid assertion that my
country
> > is not racist.
>
> So Canada is a racist country ?You are a real jerk to talk like that about
> this wonderful country.

I live all my life here. I know it is racist. Perhaps you are blind. But
then again Romanians are not a racist nation. Right.

> > > KKK does exist in Canada. Will you advise ALL CANADIAN YOUTH to keep
> their
> > > mouth shutt ?
> >
> > I advise all Canadian youth to keep their racist attitudes to themselves
> > when abroad. I advise all Canadian youth to refrain from trafficking in
> > narcotics when abroad. That includes you.
>
> Is there a name for your disease ?

So I should not advise Canadian youth to refrain from trafficking in drugs
when abroad? You think that such advise is a disease?

> Keep giving advises when nobody asked for them is not a normal
> behaviour.

Oh, it's about normal. It is more normal to keep them in ignorance?

> I hope that OHIP covers the treatment and if they don't just
> write me an e-mail and
> I will ask all the Romanians currently on welfare to donate some money.

So you promote ignorance and silence rather than good advice.

Canuck wrote:
> FYI 99% of the Romanians who came in Canada have jobs , and usually in
> high tech industry.

Are you sure it is not 97%. Which study determined that? I'm still waiting
for a answer to this.

> In the end I want to advise you to kiss my Romanian-Canadian ass
> shit-brain.

You can suck my ethnic Canadian cock you watered down dipstick.


Canuck

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> You can suck my ethnic Canadian cock you watered down dipstick.

Not interested buddy . Maybe you should ask one of your friends to do that ,
if you have any.
Loser !


RomaRespector

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Your interest is not the point, little watered-down half-Canuck.

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Gicabulla

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>From: "spataru" mui...@p.com
>Date: 7/9/01 8:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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Hihihi ! Io credeam ca wallygheitor a dat coltzu . Vaz ca inca mai raspira
astupaieam rasuflatoarea:0)))

Gicabulla

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>Date: 7/9/01 6:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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>
>Some more intelligence for Canuck to be proud of.

Cocargeanuli daca shti pa romaneshti dice koklenderu lu tactu noie nu cirikli
ca sa pricepem si noi ashtiea da nu lucram in linbi ?!

Gicabulla

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>From: "RomaRespector" Rr...@sympatico.ca
>Date: 7/9/01 6:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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Aorde mo !
Muieeee!
Adika pa linba mata sugi kariciu !

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