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John Rennie

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Sep 19, 2002, 5:46:35 AM9/19/02
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I make two visits to a.a.d.p.every day. The first is usually about
mid-morning. I then read the responses to Desmond from PV. In the evening
I read the responses to PV from Desmond. This is such an exciting routine
I can hardly contain myself. Will PV demolish Desmond? Will Desmond get
up from the floor and land at least a glove on PV? Who will provide
today's most original insult? What new words will we all discover?
Should the comma. question mark or exclamation mark appear within the
quotation or outside it? Oh yes, I realise that the point of this news
group is whether or not murderers should be executed but whilst the
PV/Desmond saga continues who can bother with such trivialities? Roll on
this afternoon.


John Rennie

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Sep 19, 2002, 6:34:12 AM9/19/02
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:46:35 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
a écrit :
> The advantage of living in Europe (aside from our aeons-old cultures,
> our multitude of peoples and languages, and our wonderfully low
> murder rates) is that we get to dispense with the lies propogated by
> LDB, before he even gets his redneck 'ass' (sic) out of bed.
>
> Of course, your rather creepy 'liking' for LDB aside, should he ever
> 'demolish' me even once, the intellectual honesty for which I am
> rightly famous on this newsgroup, would require me to admit it.
>
> That hasn't yet happened.

"Oh that God the gift would give us, to see
ourselves as others see us"

Robert Burns (sans dialect)
>
> Isn't life great ?? :-D
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan


GeneralZod

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Sep 19, 2002, 11:30:03 AM9/19/02
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Of course, your rather creepy 'liking' for LDB aside, should he ever


> 'demolish' me even once, the intellectual honesty for which I am
> rightly famous on this newsgroup, would require me to admit it.

You mean lack thereof, right? The fact is, you are the biggest fraud here.
You make arguments that consistently defy logic and common sense, while
showing disdain for crime victims.

Let's see how you would fare in a r/l debate with the likes of Dudley Sharp.
One in a public arena, but at an auditorium instead of cyberspace.

You have claimed to be morally and intellectually superior to everyone else,
yet I know you would never take up such a challenge because 1): You could
not last 30 seconds before getting personal, 2) They would beat you like a
red-headed stepchild.

We now return you to Desi's dream state.

A Planet Visitor

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Sep 19, 2002, 11:45:16 AM9/19/02
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:34:12 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> >> That hasn't yet happened.
>
> > "Oh that God the gift would give us, to see
> > ourselves as others see us"
> >
> > Robert Burns (sans dialect)
>
> 'Wae is my heart, and the tear's in my e'e;
> Lang, lang joy's been a stranger to me:
> Forsaken and friendless my burden I bear,
> And the sweet voice o' pity ne'er sounds in my ear.'
>
> 'avec dialecte'.
>
If it comes from FDP... it must be 'avec bullshit.'

Dante (sans bullshit)

Then I before had heard him: 'Capaneus,
Thou art more punished, in that this thy pride
Lives yet unquenched: no torment, save thy rage,
Were to thy fury pain proportioned full.'

Allora il duca mio parlò di forza tanto, ch'i' non
l'avea sì forte udito: «O Capaneo,
in ciò che non s'ammorza la tua superbia,
se' tu più punito: nullo martiro, fuor
che la tua rabbia, sarebbe al tuo furor dolor compito».

As Capaneo -- Your pride, rage and arrogance are what
condemn you to an Inferno of damnation.
Think long and hard about the mirror, Desmond... Think
long and hard.

Il tuo orgoglio, rabbia e arroganza sono quel che ti
condannano all 'inferno della dannazione.
Pensa a lungo, fortemente e con forza allo specchio, Desmond...
Pensa a lungo, fortemente e con forza...

PV

> --
> Desmond Coughlan |THE BITCH DROPPED THE BIKE ON MY TOE
|SO I DUMPED HER SORRY ASS
|AND MY 5 KIDS AS WELL


John Rennie

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Sep 19, 2002, 12:07:55 PM9/19/02
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"GeneralZod" <z...@pokolistan.com> wrote in message
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snip


> Let's see how you would fare in a r/l debate with the likes of Dudley
Sharp.
> One in a public arena, but at an auditorium instead of cyberspace.

There's not a regular poster on this news group either
retentionist or abolitionist, who wouldn't make a mess of
our Dudley in debate. Dudley does his level best to avoid
argument - he merely issues very dubious proclamations.
You chose a peculiarly ill suited champion to argue the
retentionist case.


William Robert

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Sep 19, 2002, 2:01:01 PM9/19/02
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"GeneralZod" <z...@pokolistan.com> wrote:

>"Desi Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message

We call it Desitopia

William Robert
-----------
God bless America!
-----------

A Planet Visitor

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Sep 19, 2002, 4:27:45 PM9/19/02
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"William Robert" <billy...@aol.comnotdonko> wrote in message news:20020919140101...@mb-mq.aol.com...
You've probably heard the tale of 'Captain desi and his gang of pirates'
who operated off the coast of Desitopia --

One day, Captain desi's lookout spotted a pirate ship. Captain desi
'bravely' bellowed, "Bring me my red shirt!" And after putting it on,
Captain desi led his crew into battle and defeated the pirates, led by
SANDO and his gang.

After the battle, one of desi's crew (I believe it was dirtdog), asked him,
"Sir, why did you call for your red shirt before battle?" desi, replied,
"If I had been wounded in the attack, the shirt would not have shown
my blood. Thus, you men would continue to fight, unafraid."

As rosy-fingered dawn came the next morning, the lookout spotted not
one, but two pirate ships (Curses... TWO retentionist posters) approaching!
The 'crew' (dirtdog, et al) stared in worshipful silence at the captain and
waited for his usual brilliant orders.

Captain desi gazed with steely eyes upon the 2 ships arrayed
against his ship, and without fear, turned and calmly shouted, "Get
me my brown pants." The reader may connect the dots.

PV

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A Planet Visitor

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Sep 19, 2002, 9:03:10 PM9/19/02
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:45:16 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip cultural exchange between two Europeans of which LDB is
> by definition wholly ignorant ... }

>
> > l'avea sì forte udito: «O Capaneo,
> ^
> Oh look ... a European 'guillemet'. Now ... let's see ... either
> is so immersed in the culture of this fair continent, that he takes
> the time to use European 'quotes' (sic) in his quotations ... or
> else he copied and pasted the above quotation from a website somewhere,
> without (is anyone surprised ?) attributing sources.
>
ROTFLMAO -- I 'copied' it (obviously I do not have it memorized),
from my Italian copy of 'Tutte Le Opere di Dante,' Edizione Del
Centenario, Quinta edizione: novembre 1965, Proprietà literaria
riservata, U. Mursia & C. 562/A/V - U. Mursia & C. - Via Tadino
29 - Milano. It is from Dante's Inferno, Canto XIV. Page 49, in that
book, to be exact. Since it is in the original Italian, one would
expect that I'd use nothing other than the original 'guillemet.' In fact,
one creates such a 'symbol,' using the windows 'character map'
--> « » « » « » « » « » « » « » for example. But I thought
you were in IT????

Not that it doesn't 'exist' on the net. It certainly does. Perhaps
even in hundreds of sites. I never claimed the work was my own.
So why the hysteria? Unless you've run out of butt-balm.

> Now which is it ? Shall we put this to an 'AADP vote' ? incubus ?
> dirt ? Richard ? What about John ..? Will John be able to wipe
> the brown stuff off his nose and glasses, and perhaps see that the
> Fraud has been pulling the wool over his eyes for these past few
> months ?
>
And what 'fraud' would that be, FDP? That Dante didn't write the
words? That I claim to have written it? That one cannot post a
phrase, giving it the attribution of the author? Obviously, we then
have YOUR fraud as well.

> What about LDB himself ? Want to 'come clean', LDB, and accept your
> lamentable 'education' for what it is: non-existent ? Or would you
> prefer to continue to play the role of the 'savant', and fool no one
> but yourself and John Rennie ?
>
Exactly what do you consider my 'coming clean'? Admit that Dante's
work is not mine? Freely admitted. Nor is Robert Burns your work.
And my quotation... fits you like a glove. While your 'quote' seems
to be picked at random, without much meaning to it, in respect to
the point of the thread. It would seem that you were simply trying
to be 'pseudo-intellectual.' BTW -- Your 'quote' was

'Wae is my heart, and the tear's in my e'e;
Lang, lang joy's been a stranger to me:
Forsaken and friendless my burden I bear,
And the sweet voice o' pity ne'er sounds in my ear.'

And gee... see
http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/scottish/waeismyh.htm

Wae is my heart, and the tear's in my e'e;

Lang, lang has Joy been a stranger to me:
Forsaken and friendless, my burden I bear,
And the sweet voice o' Pity ne'er sounds in my ear.

> Your call.

okay... spank...spank...spank... roll out the butt-balm again, FDP.
You're going to need it.

PV

>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |PV CAUGHT ME IN A LIE
|MY WIFE LEFT ME
|TIMES ARE TOUGH

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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Sep 19, 2002, 9:29:04 PM9/19/02
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In article <slrnaoja7h.1ekq....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:37:37 +0000


>
>Le Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:34:12 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> That hasn't yet happened.
>
>> "Oh that God the gift would give us, to see
>> ourselves as others see us"
>>
>> Robert Burns (sans dialect)
>

> 'Wae is my heart, and the tear's in my e'e;
> Lang, lang joy's been a stranger to me:
> Forsaken and friendless my burden I bear,
> And the sweet voice o' pity ne'er sounds in my ear.'
>

>'avec dialecte'.
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
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The Dr. Dolly Coughlan archive exists because Desmond Coughlan lacks conviction
in his words. He won't allow his posts to be archived in Google. Please feel
free to use it to your advantage.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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Sep 19, 2002, 9:29:01 PM9/19/02
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In article <slrnaokki4.1gt6....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:40:06 +0000


>
>Le Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:45:16 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip cultural exchange between two Europeans of which LDB is
> by definition wholly ignorant ... }
>
>> l'avea sì forte udito: «O Capaneo,
> ^
>Oh look ... a European 'guillemet'. Now ... let's see ... either
>is so immersed in the culture of this fair continent, that he takes
>the time to use European 'quotes' (sic) in his quotations ... or
>else he copied and pasted the above quotation from a website somewhere,
>without (is anyone surprised ?) attributing sources.
>

>Now which is it ? Shall we put this to an 'AADP vote' ? incubus ?
>dirt ? Richard ? What about John ..? Will John be able to wipe
>the brown stuff off his nose and glasses, and perhaps see that the
>Fraud has been pulling the wool over his eyes for these past few
>months ?
>

>What about LDB himself ? Want to 'come clean', LDB, and accept your
>lamentable 'education' for what it is: non-existent ? Or would you
>prefer to continue to play the role of the 'savant', and fool no one
>but yourself and John Rennie ?
>

>Your call.


>
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.

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Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnaoj8pi.1ekq....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:13:07 +0000
>
>Le Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:46:35 +0100, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
>écrit :
>


>> I make two visits to a.a.d.p.every day. The first is usually about
>> mid-morning. I then read the responses to Desmond from PV. In the
>evening
>> I read the responses to PV from Desmond. This is such an exciting
>routine
>> I can hardly contain myself. Will PV demolish Desmond? Will Desmond get
>> up from the floor and land at least a glove on PV? Who will provide
>> today's most original insult? What new words will we all discover?
>> Should the comma. question mark or exclamation mark appear within the
>> quotation or outside it? Oh yes, I realise that the point of this news
>> group is whether or not murderers should be executed but whilst the
>> PV/Desmond saga continues who can bother with such trivialities? Roll
>on
>> this afternoon.
>
>The advantage of living in Europe (aside from our aeons-old cultures,
>our multitude of peoples and languages, and our wonderfully low
>murder rates) is that we get to dispense with the lies propogated by
>LDB, before he even gets his redneck 'ass' (sic) out of bed.
>

>Of course, your rather creepy 'liking' for LDB aside, should he ever
>'demolish' me even once, the intellectual honesty for which I am
>rightly famous on this newsgroup, would require me to admit it.
>

>That hasn't yet happened.
>

>Isn't life great ?? :-D
>

>--
>Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1 YGL#4 YFC#1 YFB#1 UKRMMA#14 two#38
>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
>desmond @ zeouane.org
>http: // www . zeouane . org
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GeneralZod

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"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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You have never seen Dudley debate anyone in r/l. I have, on CNN a
couple years back, when he was on a show opposite Jesse Jackson concerning
Gary Graham. He made Jesse look like a fool on national TV.

If you are so confident Dudley can be defeated in a r/l debate, then
why don't you put your money where your mouth is, and challenge him?

>
>


John Rennie

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"GeneralZod" <z...@pokolistan.com> wrote in message
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I feel you only visit this news group periodically. If you kept a closer
watcvh on it you would have seen many challenges to Sharp especially
by Dave Proctor not one of which he has responded to.


Jürgen

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>
>
> You have never seen Dudley debate anyone in r/l. I have, on CNN a
>couple years back, when he was on a show opposite Jesse Jackson concerning
>Gary Graham. He made Jesse look like a fool on national TV.
>
> If you are so confident Dudley can be defeated in a r/l debate, then
>why don't you put your money where your mouth is, and challenge him?
>
>

Actually, a forum providing the exclusive possibility to express arguments
in written form even can have tremendous advantages. Dominant personalities
and aspects like personal acting skills, which in a r/l-discussion well can
push good counter-arguments to the background, are here of almost no weight.
Should Sir Sharp's arguments be of value and means, then they keep their
quality in written form. Should he however need to be physically present to
convince then the suspicion is that his argumentation is fed from sources
other than perception and fact.

J.


William Robert

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On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:25:56 +0100, "John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>"GeneralZod" <z...@pokolistan.com> wrote in message
>news:1fxi9.20114$Hb6.149...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

>> You have never seen Dudley debate anyone in r/l. I have, on CNN a


>> couple years back, when he was on a show opposite Jesse Jackson concerning
>> Gary Graham. He made Jesse look like a fool on national TV.
>>
>> If you are so confident Dudley can be defeated in a r/l debate,
>then
>> why don't you put your money where your mouth is, and challenge him?
>>
>I feel you only visit this news group periodically. If you kept a closer
>watcvh on it you would have seen many challenges to Sharp especially
>by Dave Proctor not one of which he has responded to.

John, help me here. Dudley was willing to debate a national figure, Jesse
Jackson, on an international news channel, CNN, but he is afraid to respond to
Dave Procter?

Might there be another, MORE RATIONAL, reason for this? Think about it.

A Planet Visitor

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> Le Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:03:10 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> > BTW -- Your 'quote' was
>
> I am heartened to see your placing the word 'quote' used incorrectly
> as a noun, in quotation marks. Soon, we shall perhaps see the '(sic)'
> placed after it ... or what would be even better would be for you to
> start using correct, standard English, and use 'quote' as a verb, and
> 'quotation' as its equivalent noun. However ...
>
LOL... when I wish to 'emphasize' the particular word in my
text, I use that method as well. In this case, it was meant to
emphasize that word. You know, a lot of this has developed
because so many found my use of capitalized words so disconcerting
to their sensibilities. We have but a few methods to indicate our
'intentions' in our words. Unfortunately, you STILL (great emphasis)
have not consulted the OED, or a number of other references. 'Quote'
is most certainly a noun. You may claim it is not until the cows come
home, and it will not in the slightest change the fact that it is. Now...
'plagerising' (sic)??? That ISN'T (great emphasis) in your 'supreme
arbiter' ANYWHERE. That 'supreme arbiter,' the OED... which only
you must obey.

> { snip }

> { snip }
>
> Indeed. I in fact copied it from _Poems and Songs of Robert Burns_ *,
> a book which I received as a gift for my 16th birthday.
>
Ah... so many years ago in physical terms... but only yesterday
in your mental advances. No one cares, FDP... it was you who
became hysterical about my providing a quotation from Dante, that
describes YOU to a perfection. While your 'quotation' was
virtually meaningless in respect to the comment from John Rennie...
need I mention it sounded as if you were trying to be the accursed-
PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL. We may have to brand your forehead
with a 'P-I' if you keep that up.

Of course this thread DID teach you something... With an
assist from me, you now know how to provide the 'guillemet'
here in plain text. ho ho ho.

> You see, we don't all rely on the Internet. Some of us have
> intellectual traditions stretching back to our youth. Youth spent
> learning, and assimilating classical education ... rather than how
> to skin rabbits, and harvest hay.

LOL... Let's see who relied on the Internet -- I remember your
comment in the thread Engineers /quote/ "the universe would have
gone back to the 'Big Crunch' before we finished."/unquote/.
Do you think ANYONE believes you are familiar enough with the
presumed happenings outside of 13th Century Feminist Literature
to have the slightest inkling of what the 'Big Crunch' signifies? Given
that arithmetic is a challenge for you? You picked up one phrase,
probably from that Internet, found the phrase fascinating, while not
having the slightest idea, what it actually means, except
universe<-->Big Crunch, and tried to appear 'pseudo-intellectual.'
Trust me, you may think a cosmologist is someone who has
something to do with hairdressing and make-up, but that isn't the case.
Your presumed 'intellect' (sic), is so narrow, that when you step outside
of those boundaries, you appear even more stupid than you are.

Roll out the butt-balm again.. You can order more at
http://www.butt-balm.com
Ready???? Spank...spank... spank...

> * Ed. James Barke, Tiger Books International.

BFD... The man has a book in his 'library'... Let's give him that
PhD, he claims he would pursue. Award him the title of
'Doctor of I have a Book.'

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnaolq97.1ih3....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:23:52 +0000


>
>Le Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:03:10 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>> BTW -- Your 'quote' was
>
>I am heartened to see your placing the word 'quote' used incorrectly
>as a noun, in quotation marks. Soon, we shall perhaps see the '(sic)'
>placed after it ... or what would be even better would be for you to
>start using correct, standard English, and use 'quote' as a verb, and
>'quotation' as its equivalent noun. However ...
>

>{ snip }
>
>> And gee... see
>> http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/scottish/waeismyh.htm
>
>{ snip }
>
>Indeed. I in fact copied it from _Poems and Songs of Robert Burns_ *,
>a book which I received as a gift for my 16th birthday.
>

>You see, we don't all rely on the Internet. Some of us have
>intellectual traditions stretching back to our youth. Youth spent
>learning, and assimilating classical education ... rather than how
>to skin rabbits, and harvest hay.
>

>* Ed. James Barke, Tiger Books International.
>

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A Planet Visitor

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"Jürgen" <K.J.H...@t-online.de> wrote in message news:amfoi4$t71$01$1...@news.t-online.com...

ho ho ho --

Sharp -- "there is no proof of an innocent executed in the US since 1900."

Jürgen -- 'Abolition *IS* aside from many other strong reasons an
expression of *MERCY* and for to be *MERCIFUL* a *COMPASSIONATE*
mindset is *CONDITIO SINE QUA NON*. A *PITILESS* mindset is bare
of all *COMPASSION* and leads to executions of *ENTIRELY REFORMED
and REMORSEFUL* humans. Within a pitiless justice humanity plays no
part, it is meaningless what a reason *ANY* guilty dies for.

Can anyone imagine these two 'Titans' arguing these opposite absurdities?

As unbelievable as Sharp's statement is to me... Jürgen would be no match
for him.. even given a U.N. translator for his comments. But the Germans
are not famous for being very 'clever' in their remarks and their debating
skills... Witness the present German Justice Minister making an ass
of herself -- See
http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/politics/4108549.htm


PV

> J.


John Rennie

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"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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>
snip


> As unbelievable as Sharp's statement is to me... Jürgen would be no match
> for him.. even given a U.N. translator for his comments. But the Germans
> are not famous for being very 'clever' in their remarks and their debating
> skills... Witness the present German Justice Minister making an ass
> of herself -- See
> http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/politics/4108549.htm
>
>
> PV

Let's wait and see, shall we, PV? If Bush's idea of pre-emptive
strikes becomes reality there will be, most regrettably, a distinct
similarity with you-know-who.


Jürgen

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A Planet Visitor schrieb in Nachricht ...

(1) I can't figure out what this reply should have to do with my
consideration of a written forum's advantage.
(2) I am not aware of any reason provided by The Master which would explain
any necessity or appropriateness of mercy in a justice system.
(3) I can not recall even one single action or activity neither of Gov Bush
nor of Pres Bush, which has/had nothing to do with sort of demonstration of
(his) power and a correlated killing of humans. Not one single point when
this man proved to have considered two sides of the medal and came in follow
up with a solution doing respect to anyone else than himself - EXCEPT:

The point of culmination, when Bush himself came into the whirl of
stock-frauds. In a sudden our incarnation of morality discovered for the
fraction of a second's duration that 'some issues do not fit into a pattern
of black and white'.

But aside from Bush's belief to hold absolutistic morality, which IMHO
endangers the world to get into a catastrophy never seen before, there are
nevertheless rules of diplomacy to which our government should do a bit more
respect than currently demonstrated.

J.


A Planet Visitor

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"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:HyWi9.4035$DR.2...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
I am not in favor of any pre-emptive strike in Iraq. But let us not
confuse any possibility of that with the creation of death-camps
and ovens. Further, I now detect a 'withdrawal' of the letter of
intent that Iraq agreed to. It seems both sides will push this
envelope until it again becomes a military response. What say
you, if the U.N. passes a new resolution changing the terms of
the inspection operation and Iraq refuses to comply?

You know, John... I am opposed to military intervention at this
time... but I can tell you that the pictures of those Kurdish children,
in the arms of their mothers, gassed by Saddam haunt me
still.
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/crimes/crimes2.htm
We should have ended it 11 years ago. Only now it will
be more costly (in more ways than one), if we make a pre-emptive
strike. Thus, we should never confuse such issues into black
and white, IMHO. A pre-emptive strike on Saddam would be
one of the more unfortunate acts I can imagine, but I do not
see it as ALL bad. Only in the sum of the results. I believe
the Kurds would benefit from such a strike, and perhaps gain
a better grasp of the bit of autonomy they deserve. Not as a nation.
I think that is unrealistic.. but as a force in that region, rather than
seen as a nuisance by Turkey, Iraq and Iran. But at what cost??

PV

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"Jürgen" <K.J.H...@t-online.de> wrote in message news:amhnp5$5jh$05$1...@news.t-online.com...
yada...yada...yada.

PV

> J.
>
>
>

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 21 Sep 2002 22:16:04 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip Jürgen's trying to reason with a madman }
>
> > yada...yada...yada.
>
> Well I suppose one should be grateful that you didn't call Jürgen a
> 'crazed, stinking, neo-Nazi cunt'. That would be just about the
> level that we've come to expect from you.
>
Ah, yes...that's FDP... A monster gibbering shrieks, and gnashing
imprecations against mankind, tearing down all shreds of modesty,
past all sense of manliness and shame; filthy in word, filthy in
thought, furious, raging, obscene.'
Apologies to Thackeray.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 21 Sep 2002 22:16:04 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > You know, John... I am opposed to military intervention at this
> > time... but I can tell you that the pictures of those Kurdish children,
> > in the arms of their mothers, gassed by Saddam haunt me
> > still.
> > http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/crimes/crimes2.htm
>
> What about the images of Quadaffi's baby daughter, killed by American
> bombs ?
>
What about the innocents of the 'Maid of the Seas'? See
http://www.panamair.org/Accidents/lockvictims.htm
Oh.. that's right... that was 'wind shear.' According to you.

> Hey, why bother, right ? They're only ragheads ... 'Arab cunts', whom
> you'll never again trust.
>
Actually that makes you the racist... since I've never used EITHER
of those phrases... EVER. And you have now claimed that such
is a quotation from me. So again, you simply lie. But, of course,
we have some neat little EXACT QUOTATIONS of yours to examine --

1)"please find another lie to support your rather perverse taste for
state-sponsored murder. "

A most disgusting display of 'emotional destruction,' wrought upon a
Mother who had just had her son murdered and had come to this group
for some sort of 'understanding' as to why. FDP, of course, promptly set
about showing his 'true colors. By providing those words to 'bobbyc' which
deserves only a slap...slap...slap to wipe that silly, simpering, stupid, smirk
off that face of his. Now, for the benefit of readers here - Desi made this
remark to a woman (handle bobbyc), who had just had her SON MURDERED.
And desi assumed that it was 'perverse' for her to expect the murderer to
receive the punishment she supports. While it was her SON who was
MURDERED, FDP would put the opposite spin on that fact, turning the murderer
into the VICTIM who will be 'murdered.' There was ONLY one murder here,
but FDP has trouble identifying which one that was, in his haste to 'hug a
murderer.' Certainly, one may argue that they hold a different view in respect
to capital punishment. But it is the most callous, tactless, unsympathetic,
uncompassionate and insensitivity comment that I have ever seen anyone post to
another here.

1a) "That the relatives of a murder victim, should have a rather
perverse desire to see the death penalty reintroduced, one
shouldn't be surprised"

Just more of the same as above.

2a) "I have personally never felt the terror of imminent death, yet I do
not fear death."
2b) "Personally, the guards would have a job holding me down, as the
litres of excreta that would be covering my legs, would make it
difficult for them to grab a hold of me"

Can anyone see the hypocrisy in those two different view of how FDP
would approach his death?

3) "Hmm, strange ... I didn't write that, either ..."

This little comment is still floating around here, where he deceptively lied as
to not having written the comment in 2b), above. He provided a 'search
argument' that 'presumably' proved he had not written the comment

url:http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=execreta&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.activism.death-penalty&as_uauthors=Desmond
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=execreta&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.activism.death-penalty&as_uauthors=Desmond%20
Coughlan&lr=&hl=fr

But, he had purposely mis-spelled excreta in his argument, which obviously
would result in a return of nothing found. But when one extracts the extra
'e' in 'execreta' (sic) it returns the exact post referenced.

4) "I certainly wouldn't call anything 'a direct quote [sic]', as 'quote' is
not a noun."

Which is a hilarious on-going example of how little he knows of the
English language. And how little he cares to even investigate that it is
a noun. BTW -- from the OED --
QUOTE, n.
1. A (marginal) reference; a note.
2. a. A quotation. Also quote mark = b.
2. b. A quotation mark.
3. = QUOTATION

5a) "Indeed, the dead are dead, and cannot be honoured, harmed, spat upon.."
5b) ""We can certainly honour the memory of the dead."

That was one of his greater ones. Presuming that the dead do not exist, and
thus cannot be honored, but somehow those 'dead' STILL have an 'existing
memory' to honor. If the dead do not 'exist,' how might their 'memory' exist?
The dead can't remember SHIT. Actually, we use OUR 'memory' to 'honor the
dead.' And they can most certainly be honored USING our memory. Perhaps
FDP mislaid a 'gerund' around somewhere.

6) When John Rennie asked FDP directly "Theodore Frank is about to be
executed - you can set him free.Do you?" He made what is perhaps the
most simplistic, yet frighteningly unaware one word comment we can
imagine --- He said -- "Yes"

One can find out about Theodore Frank at
http://www.cybersleuths.com/billkelly/bkchap1.htm
This was the person who FDP would let walk FREE as a bird again,
rather than execute him. Does ANYONE actually believe the world
would be a 'lesser' place if Theodore Frank were no longer
in it? FDP's 'argument' (sic) regarding the DP, is that it is BETTER
that a murderer murder again, then that a murderer be executed.
Under ANY conceivable circumstances. Does anyone believe that
Theodore Frank WOULD NOT positively murder another little girl/boy,
were he permitted a return to open society?

7) "Fact : the death penalty is wrong."

Ummm.... Nothing to add there, except as before: Does anyone actually
believe the world is a 'lesser' place if we do not keep all murderers alive?
How can that POSSIBLY be? And this relates directly to the Theodore Frank
argument. He would FREE Theodore Frank on 'principle' (sic) WITHOUT
REGARD for the consequences of doing so -- Because the DP is 'wrong' (sic).
His 'philosophy' cannot accept the execution of a murderer EVEN if one
posits as a FACT that this murderer will go on to murder another 10 victims.
Those victims DON'T COUNT. Only the fact that society will take a murderer's
life MATTERS to him. All else is IRRELEVANT.

8) "Were the two sentenced to die ? If so, may God guide them to the
Mexican border."

This comment was made when some murderers escaped from prison.
FDP praying for their escape... regardless. But, unfortunately they did
not escape to Mexico but DID manage to murder again. Go figure.
God helped them at FDP's request to murder again???? Maybe.

9) "The Lockerbie 'trial' was the final act in a huge theatrical
cover-up. There_was_ no bomb."

Actually a rather intense investigation revealed EXACTLY that there
WAS a bomb. See
http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/formal/n739pa/n739pa.htm
And, FDP conveniently forgets... someone was CONVICTED of
planting that bomb. But his 'story,' and he's sticking to it, is that
it was "Clear Air Turbulence, PV. Clear Air Turbulence."

10) "The Balkans are not in Europe, Shona." and
"neither Latvia nor Estonia forms part of Europe."

Of course, we wonder exactly what FDP was thinking of?

11) "Europe does not violate its citizens' human
rights."

Ah... now we know what FDP was 'thinking' (sic) of. If
the Balkans are not in Europe, FDP can hope to lie his
way out of this statement.

12) "Regrettably, no."

This was a response to the question -- "Hmmm, isn't Bosnia
in Europe? What about Russia?" Of course, Russia is most
certainly defined in the OED as being "The name of the
country in the east of Europe.."

13) "But Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and
in matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand
years."

Whoops.... so the holocaust was 'moral'!! Gee... that's not
the way I felt about it. But FDP is welcome to his 'opinion' (sic).

14) "the truth is that Osamo bin-Laden had absolutely
nothing to do with the events of 11 September"

A statement that becomes more absurd with each passing
day.

15) "In short, I think that Mr bin Laden, whilst he didn't
plan or carry out the attacks, knows who did."

<sarcasm on>
Gee... you think???
<sarcasm off>

16) "So does the Bush Administration. So does Mossad."

Sorry, took 'sarcasm' off too soon... ho ho ho ho ho ho.

17) " I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being
behind the attacks."

I presume that's why '4000 Jewish employees in the WTC,
didn't show up for work on 9-11' (sic), It just keeps getting better...
or worse... as the case may be.

18) "I'm still wondering why, in the video released by the
United States government, Mr bin Laden is apparently seen
confirming that none of the terrorists knew what was about
to happen until they got onto the aircraft..."

Others 'wonder' where FDP gets his 'logic' from! Unless he
believes the terrorists found out about what was about to happen
by 'mental telepathy.' Imagine ALL getting on those planes,
yet NONE of them knew they were on a suicide mission?
Maybe the stewardess passed them a 'note.' Probably from
the Mossad. Cheee... incredible. Incredibly stupid.

19) "well the death penalty is evil, supported by sexual
sadists"

Clearly the 'sexual' implication to the DP, is something that
seems to be aroused in FDP, when he describes the acts of
murder. And the feelings of those murdered and murdering in his
patent plagiarism of a murder. While adding his unique
'sexually sadistic' frenzy of the visual portrayal (I really thought
he was about to discuss the rape sequence in vivid pornographic
detail).of 43 seconds of terror experienced by a 17 year-old
female victim. Minutely expressing that terror in 'cum in your
pants' detail. Which I can very well visualize was his activity
as he typed it. One can clearly see, that he was rubbing himself
in the groin area as he posted. And probably went quickly to
the bathroom to 'finish the job' as soon as he sent the post.
here is a partial extract of his 'wet dream.' --

"He fires once. 43 seconds passed from the time
she noticed the man's presence, until he fired.
The bullet, a .38 calibre Remington, crosses the
distance between the gun and her head, at 8,200 feet
per second, and and two thousandths of a second later,
punches a hole in her skull, barely a centimetre above
the supra-orbital margin; ripping a trail backwards
through the left temporal lobe, before exiting between
the occipatal and the right parietal bones.
Unconsciousness is instantaneous.
Tiffany slumps forward onto the desk, and the weight of
her body pulls her sideways off of her seat, and onto
the floor. As she falls, her skirt rides up over her
hips. The man notes that she isn't wearing panties.

'I shoulda raped her first, the whore ...'"

20) "What do Dutch porno stars have to do with this ..?"

Again, when one talks of spraying semen about in a grotesque,
drooling dance of perversion, one need only look at FDP's 'drooling
dance' in the execution of Richard Kutzner, who strangled Rita Van
Huss in her business, where FDP referred to her as a Dutch porno star,
when her name as a victim was mentioned by another poster.
Certainly demonstrating a totally non-caring attitude in respect
to a murder victim. Victims 'just don't count' in FDP's view. When
will rational and reasonable abolitionists recognize this and denounce
FDP for the 'evil' that he is?

21a) "If it's legal, it's moral, Jed."
21b) "What is legal can be perfectly immoral."

Does anyone see something 'wrong' with those last two comments
FDP made in separate posts? A bit of hypocrisy, perhaps? Similar
to his 'I'd shit my pants if faced with death' and 'I have no fear of
death' dance routine?

22) "President Mitterand's capacity to govern, was never in
doubt."

Of course, this presumes that Mitterand was EVER capable of
governing. We know that to be false. And it would deny that he
was SO incapable that he raised his mistress, Edith Cresson,
to the first French female Prime Minister. She was a fucking
disaster, which certainly places Mitterand's abilities in question. See -
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/intl/article/0,9171,1107990329-22866,00.html
for a description of that disaster.

23) "Both the UK and France have constitutionally (in
France's case, anyway) protected speech."

Ignoring --
a) Censorship of the book 'Le Grand Secret,'

b) the Fabius-Gayssot law -- which prohibits 'free speech' in respect
to the holocaust. Which actually lends it more credence than it
deserves. Perhaps something FDP agrees with.

c) the Election Law Secrecy Act Article 59. Invoked during the last
French election prohibiting expressions of distaste in respect to the
choices available.

We should not forget that Free speech in EVERY aspect
is the greatest discoverer of lies. Without it, lies have a way of
being presumed to have merit, if they are forbidden to be
examined.

24a) "The owner of one of our favourite restaurants where we used to live,
before Drewl had it firebombed, was beaten to death in 1998."
24b) ""Eh ? What are you talking about ? The firebombing ? I did _not_
claim that Drewl was responsible for that."

These two statements made only a few days apart. The second made
to me, when I noted that he had made the first statement. Now, THERE
is a 'classic' and 'direct' LIE on his part, in the second statement he made.

25) "I provided my address here at 256, rue de Championnet:"

256, rue de Championnet, 75018 PARIS, does not exist. Another lie.

26) "Indeed, perhaps if the floods that are presently threatening Germany,
had been controlled before they swept across into Europe, from the Czech
Republic and Poland, then this fair continent would have been saved the
same fate as the smelly 'auslanders'."

Yes... those 'smelly auslanders' (sic), are a real drag on all your
'moral' (sic) Europeans.

27a) "'Gimme da dough, mothafucka o ah toast yo ass !!'"
27b) "smelly 'Jigaboo' auslander.
27c) "I even 'tweaked' your nose a few days back, by using the
word 'jigaboo'"
27d) "ragheads"
27e) "Arab cunts"

I find it disgusting to even present these direct quotes. But it must
be shown that FDP is a racist. There can no longer be any doubt
of that fact. Certainly he isn't 'tweaking' MY nose. I'm White. Thus,
we should see WHO FDP really intends to insult. His use of the
'N word' (sic) is also disgusting. One has only to do a 'find' on
that word, and 'desmond' as the author, before he began hiding his
posts. Further, the last two are simply shown from his comment
in this post.

28) "An e-mail that I received last night, from the Massachusetts
Bar Association, would appear to confirm this view. Unless new
information comes to light, I thus confirm that, _as far as
I am able to ascertain_, PV is right."

But gee... FDP claims he 'kicks my ass.' While he became almost
hysterical in his claims that Judge Zobel could not rule in favor of
a motion Finding for a verdict of not guilty. Nor did he ever apologize.
Using some feeble excuse that he was "Arguing in good faith."
That's be the day.

29a) "In the case of Roger Coleman, Richard, there is _overwhelming_
evidence that he didn't do it.
29b) "Consider the evidence. He was innocent."
29c) "The evidence that he was innocent, of course ... "

The first being a statement FDP makes. And when Richard asks what that
_overwhelming_ evidence was, FDP responded with the next statement.
And when Richard persisted by asking in response to FDP's second remark,
"Which specific evidence do you speak of, Desmond?' FDP, even more
inscrutable than before, responded with his third comment. We are
STILL waiting for the 'production' of such 'evidence' (sic) from FDP.
Perhaps he's waiting for someone else to 'fill in the blanks.' Or perhaps
he will simply again pronounce it '_overwhelming_'

30) "I am _not_ pro-abortion, but nor am I pro-impose-MY-choice-on-women."

Actually, a sentence making no sense, but we can assume it can hold
the meaning that he is not 'pro-murder,' but nor is he pro-impose-HIS-
choice-on-murderers. As usual, simply sanctimonious claptrap from
him. He is pro them 'choosing' to .abort/murder, but he's not 'pro' if
they do.

31) "I don't know if I am, but after removing the X-No-Archive flag from
this post as well, to allow it to be archived, I shall state : I condemn
without reservation the taking of human life, under any circumstances
which do not constitute immediate and necessary self-defence."

His comment made in response to my citing a declaration from
Amnesty International which condemned Palestinian terrorists, and
my asking -- "I presume you denounce Palestinians as simply 'terrorists,'
rather than 'freedom fighters,' in the acts they commit in the name of
'freedom fighting'?" So what we have here is the same as 30), above.
He is 'not' pro-terrorist, but he is 'not' pro-statements which are against
terrorists. Does anyone actually not shake their head in wonder, at the
'play with words' FDP uses to avoid issues? While in self-serving
hypocricy, he hope to appear pious in the end?

32) "'America' and 'The United States' are not synonyms"

Gee... everywhere I see they claim to be synonyms. But perhaps
definitions are for 'wannabees.'

33) "An animated gif is not a webpage, but he later claimed that I
had 'created' a webpage in his 'honour'"

FDP's comment regarding his creation of the 'web page' with an
identification of
http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/PV.gif
Frantically 'denying' that it's a 'web page,' but instead insisting
it is only a 'gif.' Certainly, he would need dirtdog to 'defend'
him against that being a lie. He then went on to create yet
ANOTHER -- See -
http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/jed.html

34) "and send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to give me
a blowjob whenever I want one."

FDP's comment in a post to jigsaw.

35a) "It might have flown right over your pointy little
redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
35b) "altar-boy shagging Bible-basher"
35c) "altar-boy shagging prick"
35d) "a bigoted old altar-boy-shagger"
35e) "you altar-boy-molesting dipshit."
35f) "Dwight the altar-boy from Wisconsin (or was he from
Tampa ? Can't remember. So many young boys, so
little time, eh, Jed ?) "

Some of the paedomorphic insults he's passed here to call me
a pedophile.


36) "Oh boy ... so logic, and arithmetic, are 'languages'"

It seems that FDP is unaware of Galileo, who remarked
"The book of the universe is written in the language of
mathematics." While the OED itself, uses a quotation for the
word 'mathematics' which refers to it as a 'language,' -- "As
cunning In Greeke, Latine, and other languages..." And his
apparent unfamiliarity with those 'computer languages' which
are based solely on logic. While the OED, once again defines
logic is terms of language -- with the definition "A formal system using
symbolic techniques and mathematical methods to establish
truth-values in the physical sciences, in language, and in philosophical
argument."


37) "Baltimore Police department"

Et al. Need I say more? Can anyone believe that a search on that
term yield 1,810 results? That is, without a doubt, the biggest lie
perpetrated here since the holocaust denial. The only thing that
saves FDP is his being outside the limits of the U.S. Everyone
recognizes the lie contained in his argument that Don Kool was
incarcerated for 6 months. Since there has been no period that
Don has not posted at least once a month for many years now.

38a) "After all, the word 'rump' is not that difficult for a classically-educated
English speaker like me."
38b) "I was just fortunate enough to be born and brought up a European,
and to have the benefit of a British university-supplied classical education."
38c) "I can go back to the PhD that I had to abandon in 1998 "
38d) "I am a native English speaker, whereas you very obviously, are not."
38e) "those of with a classical education, write the language with such
eloquent ease, that we rarely spare a thought for the uneducated
minions placed in our care."
38f) "I also speak fluent German and Hebrew."

39) "the universe would have gone back to the 'Big Crunch' before we
finished" Unfortunately, he knows so little about 'the Big Crunch'
that he mis-spells 'astronony' (sic).

Just a few of his ostentatious, ignorant and pompous displays of FDP's
presumed 'intellectual' (sic) capacity - The man is actually a bi-illiterate
intellectual midget.

And against these many silly, stupid, clumsy, hateful, deceptive, lying
comments from FDP, we have FDP's total 'argument' (sic) against me
being that I once said these exact words -- which I still believe are
my feelings --

My remarks following 9-11, when I saw Palestinian women,
children and cars honking approval for the WTC attack were --

1. "Witness the new generation now being spawned in Palestine.
Dancing in the streets over the deaths of 10,000 humans. Is that
sanity? What in general has the U.S. done to deserve that except
try to bring Israel and Palestine together beginning with the efforts
of Carter? ...But before those events which I saw on the media, I
felt myself more in sympathy to the cause of the Palestinians
then the Israelis. Although I felt them both to be the typical zealot,
who has caused such misery in the past. But that is no more.
No other country, regardless of how deep an enemy, has shown
such a disgusting face as I saw yesterday. Not even those
pictures of Japanese soldiers exalting over the dead in WW II
photos, can compare with what I saw yesterday. Yesterday it was
children and old women exalting over the dead. Do I blame THEM
for the events of September 11th? You damn right I do. I blame
their moral commitment to a policy which would find pleasure in the
death of more than 10,000 humans, most of whom would probably
have difficulty spelling 'Palestine.' Will I EVER be able to believe that
the Palestinians are REASONABLE in any dispute they may have
with ANY other people concerning what they view as rightfully
theirs? NOT A CHANCE. I may still believe that they have such
rights, in some small part. But I will NEVER AGAIN, believe that
they are REASONABLE."

and

2. "I do not hate the Palestinians as a PEOPLE, but I certainly
do distance myself from the political posturing of their leaders at
the present time."

spank... spank... spank... time for you to drag out the butt-balm
again, FDP... It's turning a deep shade of purple.

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:41:23 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip 506 -- yes, 506 !! -- lines of LDB's racist, sexist, homophobic,
> 'obsessiving' over me ... }
>
The poor boy still has a problem with the mirror -- since the quotes
were from his posts... and demonstrate EXACTLY HIS racism, sexist
attitude and homophobia --

Racism -- His words
----------------------------------------------------


26) "Indeed, perhaps if the floods that are presently threatening Germany,
had been controlled before they swept across into Europe, from the Czech
Republic and Poland, then this fair continent would have been saved the
same fate as the smelly 'auslanders'."

27a) "'Gimme da dough, mothafucka o ah toast yo ass !!'"


27b) "smelly 'Jigaboo' auslander.
27c) "I even 'tweaked' your nose a few days back, by using the
word 'jigaboo'"
27d) "ragheads"
27e) "Arab cunts"

I find it disgusting to even present these direct quotes. But it must
be shown that FDP is a racist. There can no longer be any doubt
of that fact. Certainly he isn't 'tweaking' MY nose. I'm White. Thus,
we should see WHO FDP really intends to insult. His use of the
'N word' (sic) is also disgusting. One has only to do a 'find' on
that word, and 'desmond' as the author, before he began hiding his
posts. Further, the last two are simply shown from his comment
in this post.

--------------------------------------------------------
Sexist attitude - His words
--------------------------------------------------------


34) "and send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to give me
a blowjob whenever I want one."
FDP's comment in a post to jigsaw.

19) "He fires once. 43 seconds passed from the time


she noticed the man's presence, until he fired.
The bullet, a .38 calibre Remington, crosses the
distance between the gun and her head, at 8,200 feet
per second, and and two thousandths of a second later,
punches a hole in her skull, barely a centimetre above
the supra-orbital margin; ripping a trail backwards
through the left temporal lobe, before exiting between
the occipatal and the right parietal bones.
Unconsciousness is instantaneous.
Tiffany slumps forward onto the desk, and the weight of
her body pulls her sideways off of her seat, and onto
the floor. As she falls, her skirt rides up over her
hips. The man notes that she isn't wearing panties.

'I shoulda raped her first, the whore ...'"

20) "What do Dutch porno stars have to do with this ..?"

There are literally hundreds of his posts to women posting
here that demonstrate his sexist attitute.
---------------------------------------------------------
FDP's Homophobia
--------------------------------------------------------


35a) "It might have flown right over your pointy little
redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
35b) "altar-boy shagging Bible-basher"
35c) "altar-boy shagging prick"
35d) "a bigoted old altar-boy-shagger"
35e) "you altar-boy-molesting dipshit."
35f) "Dwight the altar-boy from Wisconsin (or was he from
Tampa ? Can't remember. So many young boys, so
little time, eh, Jed ?) "

Some of the paedomorphic insults he's passed here to call me

a homosexual predator.

There are literally hundreds of his posts here that clearly
demonstrate his homophobia.
----------------------------------------------------------

You see, gentle reader --I ONLY use his direct quotes. So you
can decide for yourself who is engaged in raging lies. FDP uses
only frivolous and non-specific insults in responding, never providing
'proof' of his insults. But that is his 'method.' We already know that.
You are the judge, and must decide whether oblique insults, totally
unsubstantiated, or direct quotes, provide better evidence.

> ROTFLMAO !!! What would abolitionism do without you, eh, LDB ?
>
We can be sure that retention would suffer without you, FDP.
I've said before... you're the best weapon retention ever had. I hope
you NEVER leave. You're to abolition what Chernobyl was to safe
nuclear power.

> Again ... *ROT-GD-FLMAO !!!!!*

It's beginning again, gentle reader. As we've so often seen before... We
now see the hysteria level of FDP rising again... the throbbing vein in his
head... the bulging eyes, the flushed and twitching cheeks, the trembling
chin, the drool forming at the side of his lips, the quivering hand
raised over the keyboard. Furtively searching for the bottle of gin he keeps
hidden from the view of his wife --

And let us now forget the crimson hue of his rump... and his quick lunge
for the butt-balm ointment as well as the gin. How does he do it???
Alternating between grasping for the gin, the butt-balm ointment, and
massaging his crotch when posting sexual innuendo. And yet he
STILL manages to get out his posts. He must use voice-activated
'Corel Dragon Naturally Speaking.' Because he certainly never has
a 'hand free.'

here goes.... spank...spank...spank. You're going to need to reorder
your butt-balm soon, desi.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnaoruhu.99j.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:13:34 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:41:23 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip 506 -- yes, 506 !! -- lines of LDB's racist, sexist, homophobic,
> 'obsessiving' over me ... }
>

>ROTFLMAO !!! What would abolitionism do without you, eh, LDB ?
>

>Again ... *ROT-GD-FLMAO !!!!!*


>
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in his words. He won't allow his posts to be archived in Google. Please feel

free to use it to your advantage.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:31:59 +0000
>
>Le Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:41:22 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>


>>> > yada...yada...yada.
>
>>> Well I suppose one should be grateful that you didn't call Jürgen a
>>> 'crazed, stinking, neo-Nazi cunt'. That would be just about the
>>> level that we've come to expect from you.
>
>> Ah, yes...that's FDP... A monster gibbering shrieks, and gnashing
>> imprecations against mankind, tearing down all shreds of modesty,
>> past all sense of manliness and shame; filthy in word, filthy in
>> thought, furious, raging, obscene.'
>> Apologies to Thackeray.
>

>Read up on Socrates, yet ? Ho, ho, ho ... poor, uneducated spastic.
>
><fx: laughs long and hard [apologies to billytwat] ...>


>
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>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 21:54:29 +0000
>
>Le Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:40:44 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>


>>> { snip 506 -- yes, 506 !! -- lines of LDB's racist, sexist, homophobic,
>>> 'obsessiving' over me ... }
>

>> The poor boy still has a problem with the mirror -- since the quotes
>> were from his posts... and demonstrate EXACTLY HIS racism, sexist
>> attitude and homophobia --
>

>Can spanking LDB get any eaasier (quick, another typo ... the list,
>LDB !! The list !!!) ? All that it takes is one paragraph, and he
>jumps as high as his master demands ... go on, LDB ... remind us all
>again of how 'outta' is a contraction of 'outted' (sic) ... oops,
>there's that sound again, listen LDB ... cock your ear ... 'whump-
>squeal' ...

>
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> Le Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:41:22 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :


<mindless drivel clipped>

> > Ah, yes...that's FDP... A monster gibbering shrieks, and gnashing
> > imprecations against mankind, tearing down all shreds of modesty,
> > past all sense of manliness and shame; filthy in word, filthy in
> > thought, furious, raging, obscene.'
> > Apologies to Thackeray.
>

> Read up on Socrates, yet ? Ho, ho, ho ... poor, uneducated spastic.
>

Drag out the 'one book' you have in your 'library' yet? You really
need to get another... I would suggest you enroll in the courses
offered in http://www.mathstories.com/
They're designed specifically for the arithmetic-challenged elderly,
and deal in word problems, which seem to give you great difficulty.

<mindless drivel clipped>

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:36:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> >> Read up on Socrates, yet ? Ho, ho, ho ... poor, uneducated spastic.
>
> > Drag out the 'one book' you have in your 'library' yet? You really
> > need to get another... I would suggest you enroll in the courses
> > offered in http://www.mathstories.com/
> > They're designed specifically for the arithmetic-challenged elderly,
> > and deal in word problems, which seem to give you great difficulty.
>
> The 'one book' ? What, like 'one book to rule them all, one book to find
> them, one book to bring them and in the darkness bind them' (apologies to
> Tolkien)? Ho, ho, ho ... too easy. Or as you 'wood' (sic) say,
> 'sooooooooooooo delicious'.
>
No.. that would be you reading your one book-as described by Tennyson:

A little glassy-headed hairless man,
Who lived alone in a great wild on grass;
Read but one book, and ever reading grew
So grated down and filed away with thought,
So lean his eyes were monstrous; while the skin
Clung but to crate and basket, ribs and spine.
(Tennyson)

You're just too easy... spank...spank...spank...

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:44:47 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> >> >> Read up on Socrates, yet ? Ho, ho, ho ... poor, uneducated spastic.
>
> >> > Drag out the 'one book' you have in your 'library' yet? You really
> >> > need to get another... I would suggest you enroll in the courses
> >> > offered in http://www.mathstories.com/
> >> > They're designed specifically for the arithmetic-challenged elderly,
> >> > and deal in word problems, which seem to give you great difficulty.
>
> >> The 'one book' ? What, like 'one book to rule them all, one book to find
> >> them, one book to bring them and in the darkness bind them' (apologies to
> >> Tolkien)? Ho, ho, ho ... too easy. Or as you 'wood' (sic) say,
> >> 'sooooooooooooo delicious'.
>
> > No.. that would be you reading your one book-as described by Tennyson:
>
> Could you please tell us what a 'book-as' is ?
>
Apparently you still have that trouble reading. Is it true that you
wouldn't think a judge was a crook if he knew Coleman was
innocent but still found him guilty?

> { snip LDB claiming 'victory' by copying and pasting Tennyson from
> a webpage ... }

Yes... I've been caught out, desi... I got it off the net. Let me tell you
how I did it. I recognized that I was looking for a poem with the phase
'one book.' So I went to google and did a search on the phrase
'one book.' The net returned me 345,000 hits. I said "oh .. oh... I'd
better narrow this down." So I asked myself... "self... what do we
know about desi?" And the answer came back to me... "Well.. he
IS a 'little glassy-headed hairless man." And when I put THAT phrase
in, it came right back with the perfect description of you -- With a
picture of you and all. The first of only 45 hits - See
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/images/rhdfire.htm
See how easy that was?? All I had to do was know you were a
'glassy-headed hairless man,' having only one pitifully inadequate book.

The poem --


A little glassy-headed hairless man,
Who lived alone in a great wild on grass;
Read but one book, and ever reading grew
So grated down and filed away with thought,
So lean his eyes were monstrous; while the skin
Clung but to crate and basket, ribs and spine.
(Tennyson)

This has just become too easy for me... Like shooting fish in a barrel.


PV

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:13:16 +0000


>
>Le Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:44:47 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>>> >> Read up on Socrates, yet ? Ho, ho, ho ... poor, uneducated spastic.
>
>>> > Drag out the 'one book' you have in your 'library' yet? You really
>>> > need to get another... I would suggest you enroll in the courses
>>> > offered in http://www.mathstories.com/
>>> > They're designed specifically for the arithmetic-challenged elderly,
>>> > and deal in word problems, which seem to give you great difficulty.
>
>>> The 'one book' ? What, like 'one book to rule them all, one book to find
>>> them, one book to bring them and in the darkness bind them' (apologies to
>>> Tolkien)? Ho, ho, ho ... too easy. Or as you 'wood' (sic) say,
>>> 'sooooooooooooo delicious'.
>
>> No.. that would be you reading your one book-as described by Tennyson:
>
>Could you please tell us what a 'book-as' is ?
>

>{ snip LDB claiming 'victory' by copying and pasting Tennyson from
> a webpage ... }
>

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnaotohe.acr.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:43:11 +0000
>
>Le Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:36:56 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }


>
>>> Read up on Socrates, yet ? Ho, ho, ho ... poor, uneducated spastic.
>
>> Drag out the 'one book' you have in your 'library' yet? You really
>> need to get another... I would suggest you enroll in the courses
>> offered in http://www.mathstories.com/
>> They're designed specifically for the arithmetic-challenged elderly,
>> and deal in word problems, which seem to give you great difficulty.
>
>The 'one book' ? What, like 'one book to rule them all, one book to find
>them, one book to bring them and in the darkness bind them' (apologies to
>Tolkien)? Ho, ho, ho ... too easy. Or as you 'wood' (sic) say,
>'sooooooooooooo delicious'.
>

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.

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dirtdog

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On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:40:44 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:

<Desmond obsession of PV snipped>

>---------------------------------------------------------
>FDP's Homophobia
>--------------------------------------------------------
>35a) "It might have flown right over your pointy little
>redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
>Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
>35b) "altar-boy shagging Bible-basher"
>35c) "altar-boy shagging prick"
>35d) "a bigoted old altar-boy-shagger"
>35e) "you altar-boy-molesting dipshit."
>35f) "Dwight the altar-boy from Wisconsin (or was he from
>Tampa ? Can't remember. So many young boys, so
>little time, eh, Jed ?) "
>
>Some of the paedomorphic insults he's passed here to call me
>a homosexual predator.

Oh dear.

What you have just said is rather sad.

You see, PV, Whatever Desmonds insults may be, the only one in the
above exchange who has just shown themselves up to be a homophobe is,
surprise surprise, your good self.

We all know that your hillbilly education left you ill prepared for
the rigours of academic discussion, so I shall quickly clear up one of
your misconceptions. The term 'homophobia' is not an accurate label to
apply to the type of silly innuendo which you seem to think it is.
Homophobia is in fact a more deep seated _fear_ of homosexuals.

Ask any turd-burglar what misconception of homosexuality he finds most
disturbing, and you will most likely be told about how irritating and
frankly _dangerous_ it is when stupid conservative fuckwits (such as
your good self) make the wholly erroneous association between being
gay, and being a_ paedophile_ - the belief that homosexuality makes
one predisposed to being a kiddy-fiddler.

The insults extracted above clearly have nothing to do with
homophobia. They are simply inuslts which the more sensitive may find
in bad taste.

The association you make between jokes based on child sex abuse and
homophobia says more about your attitudes than those of anyone else.

Then again, your dwindling selection of readers may in fact draw a
slightly different conclusion - namely that you realised that your
stating 'Desmond made several remarks which some may judge were in bad
taste' has significantly less dramatic impact than claiming that
Desmond is a homophobe, and merely made the clai of the latter
dishonestly in the hope that no-one would notice.

So, PV. Which is the correct interpretation of this particular
inaccuracy to add to your already blighted posting history?

<rote insults snipped>

w00f

A Planet Visitor

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"dirtdog" <dir...@fruffrant.com> wrote in message news:d7esou8n91h5dkss3...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:40:44 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
> <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
>
> <Desmond obsession of PV snipped>
>
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> >FDP's Homophobia
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >35a) "It might have flown right over your pointy little
> >redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
> >Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
> >35b) "altar-boy shagging Bible-basher"
> >35c) "altar-boy shagging prick"
> >35d) "a bigoted old altar-boy-shagger"
> >35e) "you altar-boy-molesting dipshit."
> >35f) "Dwight the altar-boy from Wisconsin (or was he from
> >Tampa ? Can't remember. So many young boys, so
> >little time, eh, Jed ?) "
> >
> >Some of the paedomorphic insults he's passed here to call me
> >a homosexual predator.
>
> Oh dear.
>
> What you have just said is rather sad.
>
Yes, it is... I agree that the comments of desi are about as sad
as one could imagine.


> You see, PV, Whatever Desmonds insults may be, the only one in the
> above exchange who has just shown themselves up to be a homophobe is,
> surprise surprise, your good self.
>
Sure... actually you are the homophobe. More than a few times...
Beginning when you tried your foolish German here.

<rest of dirtbag's admission of being a homophobic homophobe clipped>

PV

>
> w00f
>
>
>
>

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:06:49 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip LDB's 'obsessiving' (sic) over me ... }

>
> >> What you have just said is rather sad.
>
> > Yes, it is... I agree that the comments of desi are about as sad
> > as one could imagine.
>
> You missed out 'nyar ! nyar !'.

>
> >> You see, PV, Whatever Desmonds insults may be, the only one in the
> >> above exchange who has just shown themselves up to be a homophobe is,
> >> surprise surprise, your good self.
>
> > Sure... actually you are the homophobe. More than a few times...
> > Beginning when you tried your foolish German here.
>
> You're going to have to decide who is the homophobe ... me or dirt.
> Alternatively, you could just accept the obvious: that the 'homophobe'
> is anyone who dares to disagree with you.
>
I've already provided my proof of your homophobia. That case
is closed. I respect to dirtbag being a homophobe, since you are
'fluent' (ho ho ho) in German, let me offer you what he stated
some time ago in that language -- hardly decipherable, but the
meaning is clear -- he doesn't like 'posturing homosexuals' very
much. == His words -

"Ich mache zweifellos mein angeborenes ein und posturing
homosexuelles wenig. Meine ' klassische Ausbildung '
dehnt weiter aus, als Sie überhaupt wissen, aber
merkwürdig nicht bedeuten, daß ich auf..."

And when I commented on that -- he remarked

"NOTE TO GAYS - Please ignore PV. I love you all. But not in that way,
so don't get any ideas."

There is no question of a 'fear' of getting too close to a 'dirty'
homosexual.

Now, I thought to myself at that time, that happened to be
the WORST demonstration of non-proficiency in a language I
had ever seen. Not even babelfish could do worse.
But even that failed to surpass his soaring flight of fancy when
he tried to appear he understood French with his words --

"ien qu'un Américain sachant un autre langage soit peu commun, ne
pensez pas qu'il impressionnera Européens puisque nous sommes des
langages du tought deux avant que nous atteignions 14 - minimum.
Oh, et moi avons indiqué que vous étiez posturing gai"

Can you possibly find 'meaning' in those words? This is his
'classical education'? A short lesson in Babelfish, and a total
ignorance of the Law and James Boswell. I still harbor some
suspicion that he is actually a 14-year-old with a lawyer for
a father, law books to pick passages out at random, and too
much time on his hand.

Plus, to the point... he's obviously homophobic. And you've
certainly picked a mental midget for a partner in homophobia.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnap8ueo.t11.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:31:37 +0000


>
>Le Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:06:49 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip LDB's 'obsessiving' (sic) over me ... }
>
>>> What you have just said is rather sad.
>
>> Yes, it is... I agree that the comments of desi are about as sad
>> as one could imagine.
>
>You missed out 'nyar ! nyar !'.
>
>>> You see, PV, Whatever Desmonds insults may be, the only one in the
>>> above exchange who has just shown themselves up to be a homophobe is,
>>> surprise surprise, your good self.
>
>> Sure... actually you are the homophobe. More than a few times...
>> Beginning when you tried your foolish German here.
>
>You're going to have to decide who is the homophobe ... me or dirt.
>Alternatively, you could just accept the obvious: that the 'homophobe'
>is anyone who dares to disagree with you.
>

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:28:27 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> You're going to have to decide who is the homophobe ... me or dirt.
> >> Alternatively, you could just accept the obvious: that the 'homophobe'
> >> is anyone who dares to disagree with you.
>
> > I've already provided my proof of your homophobia. That case
> > is closed.
>
> Only in your mind. If you want to present me as a homophobe, you're
> going to have to provide proof more convincing than stating that I
> am homophobic, because I insinuated that you are homosexual. Which is
> exactly what you are doing.
>
So sue me...if you think you have cause to feel offended that I find many
of your posts offensive to homosexuals. You'd be the second one in
two days... that wants to 'sue me.' I'd love to offer at trial the
evidence of you having referred to ME as a homosexual pedophile at
least 6 times. And there is no doubt you fear me. Since I am Apollo -
the God of Truth... and you are Apate personified. Plus a bit of Lyssa,
thrown in for good measure.

<fake whiny voice>
Please don't call me 'pseudo-intellectual'..... pleassseeeee


PV

> { snip }

dirtdog

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On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:41:00 GMT, "A Planet Visitor"
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:

>
>"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
>news:slrnapb420.12dd....@lievre.voute.net...
>> Le Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:28:27 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>>
>> { snip }
>>
>> >> You're going to have to decide who is the homophobe ... me or dirt.
>> >> Alternatively, you could just accept the obvious: that the 'homophobe'
>> >> is anyone who dares to disagree with you.
>>
>> > I've already provided my proof of your homophobia. That case
>> > is closed.
>>
>> Only in your mind. If you want to present me as a homophobe, you're
>> going to have to provide proof more convincing than stating that I
>> am homophobic, because I insinuated that you are homosexual. Which is
>> exactly what you are doing.
>>
>So sue me..

Or, in other words, 'I now admit to talking bollocks'...

'Whump-squeal'

w00f

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnapb420.12dd....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:19:29 +0000


>
>Le Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:28:27 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>>> You're going to have to decide who is the homophobe ... me or dirt.
>>> Alternatively, you could just accept the obvious: that the 'homophobe'
>>> is anyone who dares to disagree with you.
>
>> I've already provided my proof of your homophobia. That case
>> is closed.
>
>Only in your mind. If you want to present me as a homophobe, you're
>going to have to provide proof more convincing than stating that I
>am homophobic, because I insinuated that you are homosexual. Which is
>exactly what you are doing.
>

>{ snip }


>
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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In article <slrnapbrq1.13dm....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 18:04:51 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:41:00 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>


>>> Only in your mind. If you want to present me as a homophobe, you're
>>> going to have to provide proof more convincing than stating that I
>>> am homophobic, because I insinuated that you are homosexual. Which is
>>> exactly what you are doing.
>

>> So sue me...if you think you have cause to feel offended that I find many
>> of your posts offensive to homosexuals. You'd be the second one in
>> two days... that wants to 'sue me.' I'd love to offer at trial the
>> evidence of you having referred to ME as a homosexual pedophile at
>> least 6 times.
>

>You're going off the deep end again, LDB. Why would I want to sue you ?
>Besides, it is becoming increasingly obvious to everyone on this
>newsgroup that 'homophobe', 'racist', 'anti-Semite' etc. are simply
>accusations that you direct at your persecutors. They might all be
>summed up by the synonym, 'The Gang'.


>
>> And there is no doubt you fear me.
>

>If there is, then provide evidence here, on an open forum, and let
>other posters comment. On what do you base your claim that I 'fear'
>you ?


>
>> Since I am Apollo - the God of Truth...
>
>> and you are Apate personified. Plus a bit of Lyssa, thrown in for
>> good measure.
>

>The drugs your doctor gave you, aren't working, LDB ...

>
>><fake whiny voice>
>> Please don't call me 'pseudo-intellectual'..... pleassseeeee
>

>I see you still haven't figured out why we call you a pseudo-
>intellectual. Curious, as everyone else has noted the reasons.
>
>Consider obviously intelligent man. He posts direct, concise,
>properly laid out and punctuated, cutting articles, from which one
>learns on a daily basis. Such a man mentions Apate, or Apollo, and
>no one bats an eyelid.
>
>Now consider rather slow, uneducated man. This man hasn't really made
>a salient point in 5 years. His posts run to 50 kb, but other than
>accusations that 'the Gang' hates him, they are really huge, appallingly
>punctuated, badly spelled 'farts' in the ether. This man obviously
>wouldn't know a verb from a noun, gets confused about simple past
>participles, thinks 'Newfound' and New South Wales are countries, writes
>gems like 'alright', believes that there 'are no such things as abstract
>verbs', can't place an apostrophe, and yet _still_ wants the world to believe
>
>that he is versed in Greek mythology, and that his vocabulary contains
>words like 'eisoptrophobia'. This man mentions Apate or Apollo, and the
>result is unanimous: 'he's trying to be pseudo-intellectual'.
>
>Is that easier for you to comprehend ?


>
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>Yamaha FJR1300 |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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"dirtdog" <dir...@fruffrant.com> wrote in message news:5m6cpucg71lpu0fli...@4ax.com...

Some of your current comments give me concern about your mental
decline, Louise. I've always been a supporter of decriminalization of
drug use, but it seems there is most certainly a down-side to the
indiscriminate abuse of such stimulants. And I'm afraid that you
might be a victim of such abuse. Your posts no longer have any
depth or meaning. For example, let me provide the results of a
recent study as reported in Science, 27 Sep 2002.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
[Abstract]
Severe Dopaminergic Neurotoxicity in Primates After a
Common Recreational Dose Regimen of MDMA ("Ecstasy")

George A. Ricaute Department of Neurology
Jie Yuan Department of Neurology
George Hatzidimitrious Department of Neurology
Branden J. Cord Department of Neurosciences
Una D. McCann Department of Psychiatry
All of Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine

The prevailing view is that the popular recreational drug
methylenedioxymethamphetamine MDMA, or "ecstasy") is a selective
serotonin neurotoxin in animals and possibly in humans.
Nonhuman primates exposed to several sequential doses of MDMA,
a regimen modeled after one by humans, developed severe
brain dopaminergic neurotoxicity, in addition to less pronounced
serotonergic neurotoxicity. MDMA neurotoxicity was associated
with increased vulnerability to motor dysfunction secondary to
dopamine depletion. Thos results have implications for mechanisms
of MDMA neurotoxicity and suggest that recreational MDMA users
may unwittingly be putting themselves at risk, either as young
adults or later in life, for developing neuropsychiatric disorders
related to brain dopamine and/serotonin deficiency.

MDMA ("ecstasy") has become a popular recreational drug
Internationally. In the 1980s, MDMA was generally used on
college campuses, with most individuals taking no more than
one or two 75- to 150-mg doses, about 1.6 to 2.4 mg per
kilogram of body weight (mg/kg), twice monthly. More
recently, MDMA is increasingly used in the context of
large, all-night parties where partygoers regard the drug
as safe and consume multiple doses during the night.
MDMA appears to carry risks beyond the sociobehavioral
effects associated with drug abuse. Experimental animals
treated with MDMA show evidence of brain serotonin
neurotoxicity, and MDMA-induced serotonin neurotoxicity
may also occur in humans. Virtually all animal species
tested until now show long-term effects on brain serotonin
neurons but no lasting effects on either brain dopamine or
norepinephrine (NE) neurons. In the mouse, dopamine
neurons are affected, but serotonin neurons are spared.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, you may believe I am trying to jack you around, but quite the
opposite is at work here. The moment I read this rather lengthy
study, I thought of you. And that is no shit. If you are deeply into
'ecstasy' you need to consider the possible long-term downside to
excessive use. And you may believe you are not overusing it, when,
in fact, it is difficult to know exactly what is the cut-off point. This
is the LATEST study, in a long string of studies that have been
going on for several years, and in all cases show possible long-term
brain damage. You can do a search on 'brain damage ecstasy' and
get 35,500 hits in google.

PV

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:41:00 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Only in your mind. If you want to present me as a homophobe, you're
> >> going to have to provide proof more convincing than stating that I
> >> am homophobic, because I insinuated that you are homosexual. Which is
> >> exactly what you are doing.
>
> > So sue me...if you think you have cause to feel offended that I find many
> > of your posts offensive to homosexuals. You'd be the second one in
> > two days... that wants to 'sue me.' I'd love to offer at trial the
> > evidence of you having referred to ME as a homosexual pedophile at
> > least 6 times.
>
> You're going off the deep end again, LDB. Why would I want to sue you ?
> Besides, it is becoming increasingly obvious to everyone on this
> newsgroup that 'homophobe', 'racist', 'anti-Semite' etc. are simply
> accusations that you direct at your persecutors. They might all be
> summed up by the synonym, 'The Gang'.

The jackal runs in packs as well.

> > And there is no doubt you fear me.
>

> If there is, then provide evidence here, on an open forum, and let
> other posters comment. On what do you base your claim that I 'fear'
> you ?
>

Your inability to form a comprehensive thought could be one
reason. You fear 'that which you do not understand.' So you
revert back to the only thing you understand. See the
following, while I explain how you should learn to recognize
your 'fear.'

> > Since I am Apollo - the God of Truth...
>
> > and you are Apate personified. Plus a bit of Lyssa, thrown in for
> > good measure.
>

> The drugs your doctor gave you, aren't working, LDB ...
>

Go on... say it... 'pseudo-intellectual.' I KNOW you're just dying
to get it out. You must be positively salivating. But the fact is
your 'classical' education, which naturally SHOULD include the
sciences, and the humanities, is rather narrow in scope. I don't
see the slightest bit of evidence that you are aware of ANYTHING
outside of your narrow interests.

And for the 'fear,' FDP?? It's right there in your empty insult.
Others see it. The resort to not a clever, or even semi-clever
insult. But just 'mindless drivel.' You know - when you present an
insult such as that.. while not providing anything else - the
word 'pathetic' springs quickly to mind. The reason you 'fear'
me is because I (and I am not alone) have recognized the
inadequacy of your 'intellect' here, and your inability to formulate
a rational argument -- For example --

1. Certainly logic BAFFLES you. Your current 'argument' concerning
proof of propositions is frighteningly stupid. I grieve for the human
spirit if there are many such as you.

2. Certainly ANYTHING of a 'natural force of our universe' causes you
to stagger back in delusion. You presume there is a 'natural' right
to life for a human being that is presumably God-given, yet do not believe
in God. And your knowledge of mathematics has been proven to be
non-existent.

3. Certainly Tennyson and Dante are BEYOND you. Or any of the
Greek mythological figures.

4. Certainly your vocabulary is limited. Although your grammar,
spelling (spell-checker?) and punctuation are precise, you are
'afraid' of terms that are unfamiliar to you. Such as eisoptrophobia.
Or any medical term. There is no doubt in my mind that you
believe badinage is 'something applied to a wound.' At that point..
your 'first-line' pedantic defense mechanism roots, fail you. Your
'second-line' must go into action... and instead of trying to
understand what has been said, you presume it must be couched
in words that you understand.

.5. Certainly your geopolitical views of today are positively childlike.
I can believe that you think 'Arms control' is a brand-name deodorant.

6. And certainly you have some very 'evil' personal habits. They
are just too extensive to go into here, but you know I've pointed
them out to you before.

> ><fake whiny voice>
> > Please don't call me 'pseudo-intellectual'..... pleassseeeee
>

> I see you still haven't figured out why we call you a pseudo-
> intellectual. Curious, as everyone else has noted the reasons.
>

ho ho ho. That 'everyone' would be 'the pack,' I can presume?
I 'figured it out' the first time you used it. It's called a 'defense
mechanism.' When one gets the upper hand on you... and that
is certainly most often the case with about any poster responding
to you... you fall back on the ONLY thing you know. If you CAN
detect a grammatical or spelling error.. that's your 'first line' of
defense -- used quite frequently. Your sock-puppet dirt use
it as well, much less adequately then you do... but you are the
teacher of pedantry, and he is the simple pupil.

Then -- If they penetrate that 'first-defense' .. and perhaps
cause you to jerk your head in recognition that they have
made a point... you will insult them in some manner. The
'Second line' of defense. Such as your current desire to
make a fool of yourself in 'the DP does not deter' comment
you make in another thread. The 'pseudo-intellectual' comment
was also just that. Upon seeing it, you jerked back in
non-recognition. John Rennie quickly pointed out who Apate
was, (Not that John is a drunk -- but even most drunks know who
she was in Greek mythology - you being the drunk who is the
exception to that rule), and how she fit into the meaning of
my comment. Nonetheless, you'd have none of that... thus
'pseudo-intellectual.' And now, every time I use a word that is
unfamiliar to you -- since your vocabulary is not your strongest
suit, you fall back on the same old stand-by. How could a red-neck
American know enough to use those words? And the constant
references to 'you found it on the net.' Son.... just about
EVERYTHING can be found on the net (except of course,
'cultural openmindedness' ho ho ho -- THAT can't be found
on the net.... except in Boozoo Bajou productions). And the
attack on my 'education.' Of which I can guarantee -- since I am
much older than you, my son -- has undoubtedly been at least two
days in an educational setting for every one day that you've been
in one. And my 'level' as a Master of Science is every bit as high
as yours, and in a much more difficult discipline. But, unlike
you.. I don't trumpet it at every opportunity. Why should I,
about something that is seen as nothing more than what is
expected of many of us? But I sure have my list of when YOU'VE
trumpeted YOURS.

> Consider obviously intelligent man. He posts direct, concise,
> properly laid out and punctuated, cutting articles, from which one
> learns on a daily basis. Such a man mentions Apate, or Apollo, and
> no one bats an eyelid.
>

Except you, of course. You're right... no one else bats an eye
but YOU??

> Now consider rather slow, uneducated man. This man hasn't really made
> a salient point in 5 years. His posts run to 50 kb, but other than
> accusations that 'the Gang' hates him, they are really huge, appallingly
> punctuated, badly spelled 'farts' in the ether. This man obviously
> wouldn't know a verb from a noun, gets confused about simple past
> participles, thinks 'Newfound' and New South Wales are countries, writes
> gems like 'alright', believes that there 'are no such things as abstract
> verbs', can't place an apostrophe, and yet _still_ wants the world to believe
> that he is versed in Greek mythology, and that his vocabulary contains
> words like 'eisoptrophobia'. This man mentions Apate or Apollo, and the
> result is unanimous: 'he's trying to be pseudo-intellectual'.
>

And there we have proof of all I've said. The 'first line' of defense...
used to excess... breached often... Fall back on the second line
of defense. 'Second line' -- Must not actually be educated. Yet,
in all that -- where is one point that would demonstrate anything
except your reliance on your 'first line of defense'? Except for NSW.
Which I certainly should have connected with Australia. But let's
go down your list --

1. First 4 lines of FDP unique standard preparatory insult...
referred to as 'mindless drivel.' Then --

2. doesn't know 'verb' from 'noun' Basing this on my one use
of 'advise' instead of 'advice.' Never have I said 'advise' WAS a
noun. I used it in the general 'sense of a noun.' Yet he has lied
and accused me of claiming 'it is a noun.' Pedantic post #5 today.
Juxtapose this against his claim that -- "The Lockerbie 'trial' was


the final act in a huge theatrical cover-up. There_was_ no bomb."

No question desi is MORE STUPID.

3. Newfound instead of Newfoundland. Nothing could be more
pitiful on his part than to rote remark on this. It was a lapse in
thought as typing. No one can believe that I did not know it
was Newfoundland, if I had entered the first part of the country
name. Juxtapose this against his -- None of the terrorists knew
they were on a suicide mission before they got on the aircraft.
Again -- No question desi is MORE STUPID.

4. Alright. See http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=alright
Again... Pedantic post #6 today. If I use 'non-standard,' that
does not imply anything except I am using 'non-standard.'
We all do, from time to time. In fact, a running argument
from desi is that 'quote' is not a noun... Although every
dictionary states it is a noun, as well as a verb. Go figure..No
question desi is MORE STUPID

5. Abstract verb. This came up in desi saying that 'we cannot
honor the dead,' but conversely saying 'we can honor the
memory of the dead.' Can someone tell me what memory
the dead have? The dead do not have 'any memory.' They're
dead, for God's sake. Their brains.. which provide for a memory
have become mush, and impossible to form a 'memory.' Actually
-- we use OUR memory to honor the dead. Abstract verb or
not. No question desi is MORE STUPID.

6. apostrophe - did I not say that soon.. becoming more
desperate by the moment -- he will look for the misplaced
apostrophe? Pedantic post #7.

7. Culminating with a final three lines of 'mindless drivel'
posing as insults again.

In total... nothing there. And for every presumed 'flaw' he
can find in my MEANING.... I can find 5-10 of his 'flaws'
in his meaning. Without 'advise,' and 'insure' and some
apostrophes... the man is a hopeless fool. There is
an inability to provide a flawless product in style and
form... and then there is an inability to provide SUBSTANCE.
desi may argue that I lack the former... but I can PROVE
that desi lacks the latter.

Now, let me say that it saddens me that he might represent
the level of education presently taught in Europe. A level
so inadequate it staggers my imagination. No Tennyson!!
No Dante!! No Science!!! No Literature!!! No Economics!!
No History!! None of the Humanities!!! Once desi questioned
'who was Faraday?' As if my mention of that name was a startling
revelation to him... presuming I must be a 'pseudo-intellectual.'
No mathematics... confusing arithmetic with algebra.
No education... except we can never use a verb in place of
a noun, even if it flows with the meaning. We cannot have
a misplaced comma, or apostrophe. Style is everything.
Substance becomes nothing.

Now -- A child fresh out of high-school, with even a limited
'classical' background KNOWS Tennyson. While desi
presumes I 'found' him on the net. If desi is an example..
and the European educational system is teaching 'feministic
style' including 'punctuation,' 'grammar' and 'spelling' to
hold more VALIDITY than 'substance,' I'm at a loss to understand
what the future holds for such a system.

Of course... I've now thoroughly explained why desi's
arguments are simply ca-ca.

> Is that easier for you to comprehend ?
>

Pitiful... truly pitiful.

PV

Jürgen

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A Planet Visitor schrieb in Nachricht ...
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>>
>So sue me...if you think you have cause to feel offended that I find many
>of your posts offensive to homosexuals. You'd be the second one in
>two days... that wants to 'sue me.'

No...you misunderstood. I'd consider suing anyone who would show 10% of your
attitude towards me in real life. In the environmant of UseNet, however, I
merely give you a hint that your fabrications provide good ground to sue
you.


JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.
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Date: 9/29/2002 11:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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Anything to make a dollar Jurgen?

Jürgen

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No $ for satisfaction.


Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnapetqd.17i6....@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: The joys of a.a.d.p.

>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:57:34 +0000
>
>Le Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:14:33 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip couple of hundred lines of thin, reedy voice crying 'How high,
> Master ??!!' }


>
>> 2. doesn't know 'verb' from 'noun' Basing this on my one use
>> of 'advise' instead of 'advice.'
>

>Oh no, silly man ... there is much more than that. Like your use of
>'complication' as a verb ... or your use of 'pedantic' as a noun ... yes,
>I know it's an adjective, but then 'idiot' is a noun, too, and it suits
>you so well, so indulge me ...
>
>{ snip more whining }


>
>> 4. Alright. See http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=alright
>> Again... Pedantic post #6 today. If I use 'non-standard,' that
>> does not imply anything except I am using 'non-standard.'
>> We all do, from time to time. In fact, a running argument
>> from desi is that 'quote' is not a noun... Although every
>> dictionary states it is a noun, as well as a verb. Go figure..No
>> question desi is MORE STUPID
>

>Ho, ho, ho ... I was going to clip this one out, as ... well, no one
>on AADP except your biographer, doubts that you're the World's Most
>Stupid Man (copyright (C) me 2002) ... but it's just too delicious to
>resist ... LDB, the man who tosses about references to Greek mythology,
>and uses words like 'eisoptrophobia' ... what does _Fowler's_ have to
>say about 'alright' ...
>
> 'The use of _all right_, or the inability to see that there is
> anything wrong with _alright_, reveals one's background,
> upbringing, education etc., perhaps as much as any word in the
> language ...'
> (_The New Fowler's Modern English Usage, Third Edition_,
> Ed. R.W. Burchfield)
>
>There it is, ladies and gentlemen ... it's official. Poor LDB is
>sorely lacking in education ... upbringing ... background ... an
>expert at stacking hay, but when it comes to matters of English
>grammar ... a tit. He fought hard for the title of 'World's Most
>Stupid Man', and I for one think that we should applaud his effort ...

>
>> 5. Abstract verb. This came up in desi saying that 'we cannot
>> honor the dead,' but conversely saying 'we can honor the
>> memory of the dead.' Can someone tell me what memory
>> the dead have? The dead do not have 'any memory.' They're
>> dead, for God's sake. Their brains.. which provide for a memory
>> have become mush, and impossible to form a 'memory.' Actually
>> -- we use OUR memory to honor the dead. Abstract verb or
>> not. No question desi is MORE STUPID.
>

>Translation: you claimed that abstract verbs didn't exist, and followed
>your claims with the now customary claims to have 'spanked' me. Oh,
>and wipe that egg off your chin ...

>
>> 6. apostrophe - did I not say that soon.. becoming more
>> desperate by the moment -- he will look for the misplaced
>> apostrophe? Pedantic post #7.
>

>Ho, ho ... the cornered rat gets aggressive. The class 'pedant' comes
>up against a linguist who can wipe the floor with him ... what does he
>do ?
>
>Run and hide, little LDB ...
>
>{ snip remainder of claims to 'know' poetry other than peasant rhymes
> from his native Russia ... }


>
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"Jürgen" <K.J.H...@t-online.de> wrote in message news:an76n9$64o$02$1...@news.t-online.com...

In a droll imitation of a typical desi response ---

Pffftttttt..

PV

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"Jürgen" <K.J.H...@t-online.de> wrote in message news:an7gch$8oa$04$1...@news.t-online.com...
You could always spend it 'rehabilitating' Kenneth McDuff look-alikes.

PV

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