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Jym Dyer

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Dec 10, 2001, 6:57:34 PM12/10/01
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=v= Here are a few more random remarks ... (*** spoilers ***)

===================
> Did You Notice...
===================
... the episode starts on September 21st, 3002?

... Zoidberg apparently has a number of redundant organs?

... they had a "Hard Croon" cafe because rock didn't exist yet?

... the "Zoidberg skull" drawn next to the "Roswell That
Ends Well" graffiti on the missile?

==============================
> Movie (and other) references
==============================

=v= Enos is based on Gomer Pyle, except that he says "gadzooks"
instead of "golly."

=v= Fry pushing Enos out of the way of the jeep is from the
"City on the Edge of Forever" episode of _Star_Trek_.

=v= The hot-to-trot ancestor reminds me of _Back_to_the_Future_
(where nothing came between Marty and his Calvins).

=v= The graffiti on the missile ... _Independence_Day_, right?
(I have a Cubert-like observation about how Jeff Goldblum, with
the clock ticking while trying to save the Earth by uploading a
virus to the alien computers, took the time to either puzzle out
their graphics display format or upload the Wingdings font, all
so that they'd see human skulls on their screens, which would
hardly be frightening to them, now would it? But that's neither
here nor there.)

=v= Bender's head being buried since 1947 reminds me of Marvin
the Paranoid Android. Marvin ultimately lived three(?) times
as long as the universe, what with all the time-travelling that
humans put him through.

=v= Enos' sargeant yells "Enos" the way that Superintendent
Chalmers yells "Seymour" in _The_Simpsons_. (I was gonna say
it was another Gomer Pyle reference, but to me it really sounds
a whole lot more like Chalmers' yell.)

=v= There might be others for folks who watch _Roswell_ on the
WB. I didn't notice anything that reminded me of _The_X-Files_,
though.

=================================
> Comments and other observations
=================================

=v= The pizza they fed Zoidberg had no anchovies. Poor guy.

=v= Does anyone recognize that blurry lights photo that was
supposedly of Harry Truman? I think it's famous UFO arcana,
but I can't quite place it.

<_Jym_>

LooseChanj

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"Jym Dyer" <j...@econet.org> wrote in message
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> ... they had a "Hard Croon" cafe because rock didn't exist yet?

Yeah. R.I.P. Frank.

> ... the "Zoidberg skull" drawn next to the "Roswell That
> Ends Well" graffiti on the missile?

Speaking of that missle, what was the point?

> =v= Fry pushing Enos out of the way of the jeep is from the
> "City on the Edge of Forever" episode of _Star_Trek_.

Back to the Future, due to the fact that they didn't see it coming first
and have to let it happen.

> =v= Bender's head being buried since 1947 reminds me
> of Marvin the Paranoid Android. Marvin ultimately lived
> three(?) times as long as the universe, what with all the
> time-travelling that humans put him through.

More like what happened to Data, except they found his head at the end of
the story, not the begining.
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Lyle McDonald

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Dec 10, 2001, 7:10:13 PM12/10/01
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Hundsfurtz wrote:

>
> On 10 Dec 2001 15:57:34 -0800, Jym Dyer <j...@econet.org> wrote:
>
> >=v= Here are a few more random remarks ... (*** spoilers ***)
> >
> >===================
> >> Did You Notice...
> >===================
> > ... the episode starts on September 21st, 3002?
> >
> > ... Zoidberg apparently has a number of redundant organs?
> >
> > ... they had a "Hard Croon" cafe because rock didn't exist yet?
> >
> > ... the "Zoidberg skull" drawn next to the "Roswell That
> > Ends Well" graffiti on the missile?
>
> This was a takeoff on the famous WWII "Kilroy was here" cartoon that
> was drawn on various large munitions and other army containers by
> soldiers. In this case they substituted a pic of Zoidberg for Kilroy.

The reflection in the professor's eyes while they are time travelling is
a reference to 2001, at the end when Dave becomes teh star child.
That's how I read it anyhow.

Lyle

Michael Notforyou

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Dec 10, 2001, 8:06:00 PM12/10/01
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"Jym Dyer" <j...@econet.org> wrote in message
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> =v= Here are a few more random remarks ... (*** spoilers ***)
>
> ===================
> > Did You Notice...
> ===================
> ... the episode starts on September 21st, 3002?
>
> ... Zoidberg apparently has a number of redundant organs?
>
> ... they had a "Hard Croon" cafe because rock didn't exist yet?
>
> ... the "Zoidberg skull" drawn next to the "Roswell That
> Ends Well" graffiti on the missile?
>
> ==============================
> > Movie (and other) references
> ==============================
>
> =v= Enos is based on Gomer Pyle, except that he says "gadzooks"
> instead of "golly."
>
> =v= Fry pushing Enos out of the way of the jeep is from the
> "City on the Edge of Forever" episode of _Star_Trek_.
>

That's a good episode. Almost as good as "Darmok and Jalad (at Tanagra)"
(Next Generation)

> =v= The hot-to-trot ancestor reminds me of _Back_to_the_Future_
> (where nothing came between Marty and his Calvins).
>
> =v= The graffiti on the missile ... _Independence_Day_, right?
> (I have a Cubert-like observation about how Jeff Goldblum, with
> the clock ticking while trying to save the Earth by uploading a
> virus to the alien computers, took the time to either puzzle out
> their graphics display format or upload the Wingdings font, all
> so that they'd see human skulls on their screens, which would
> hardly be frightening to them, now would it? But that's neither
> here nor there.)
>
> =v= Bender's head being buried since 1947 reminds me of Marvin
> the Paranoid Android. Marvin ultimately lived three(?) times
> as long as the universe, what with all the time-travelling that
> humans put him through.
>

"The first thousand years were the worst. The second thousand were the
worst, too." On Magrathaea, remember? For more info, ask on
alt.fan.douglas-adams.

> =v= Enos' sargeant yells "Enos" the way that Superintendent
> Chalmers yells "Seymour" in _The_Simpsons_. (I was gonna say
> it was another Gomer Pyle reference, but to me it really sounds
> a whole lot more like Chalmers' yell.)
>

Yes. Highlighed very well in Simpsons 3F18 (S07E21) 22 Short Films About
Springfield.

> =v= There might be others for folks who watch _Roswell_ on the
> WB. I didn't notice anything that reminded me of _The_X-Files_,
> though.
>
> =================================
> > Comments and other observations
> =================================
>
> =v= The pizza they fed Zoidberg had no anchovies. Poor guy.

He probably already ate them before it hit the glass. He HAD eaten Fry's
anchovies by that date, right?

>
> =v= Does anyone recognize that blurry lights photo that was
> supposedly of Harry Truman? I think it's famous UFO arcana,
> but I can't quite place it.
>
> <_Jym_>

*Michael Notforyou*


Exatron

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Dec 10, 2001, 9:16:56 PM12/10/01
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Hundsfurtz wrote...

>>=v= Bender's head being buried since 1947 reminds me of Marvin
>>the Paranoid Android. Marvin ultimately lived three(?) times
>>as long as the universe, what with all the time-travelling that
>>humans put him through.
>
> This was also a reference to the famous STNG episode where Data lost
> his head in Mark Twain's time - sorry don't recall the actual episode
> title.

The episode is a two-parter titled "Time's Arrow."

--
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Zik

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Dec 11, 2001, 4:39:38 AM12/11/01
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On 10 Dec 2001 15:57:34 -0800, Jym Dyer <j...@econet.org> wrote:

>
>=v= Enos is based on Gomer Pyle, except that he says "gadzooks"
>instead of "golly."

Enos is also the name of the deputy in "Dukes of Hazzard"


>=v= Fry pushing Enos out of the way of the jeep is from the
>"City on the Edge of Forever" episode of _Star_Trek_.

But Captain Kirk didn't bag Joan Collins.


>
>=v= Bender's head being buried since 1947 reminds me of Marvin
>the Paranoid Android. Marvin ultimately lived three(?) times
>as long as the universe, what with all the time-travelling that
>humans put him through.

There was a similar ST:TNG episode involving Data's head found
in a San Francisco archeological dig. The plot involved Mark Twain
and Thomas Edison from the 19th century.


Brion K. Lienhart

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Dec 11, 2001, 1:35:05 PM12/11/01
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"Hundsfurtz" <hunds...@NOSPAMlasvegas.com> wrote in message
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> On 10 Dec 2001 15:57:34 -0800, Jym Dyer <j...@econet.org> wrote:
>
> >=v= Here are a few more random remarks ... (*** spoilers ***)
> >
> >===================
> >> Did You Notice...
> >===================
> >=v= Enos' sargeant yells "Enos" the way that Superintendent
> >Chalmers yells "Seymour" in _The_Simpsons_. (I was gonna say
> >it was another Gomer Pyle reference, but to me it really sounds
> >a whole lot more like Chalmers' yell.)

You don't think that maybe Superintendent Chalmers yelling at Principal
Skinner all the time could be a reference to Gomer Pyle? A double redirected
reference, as it were?


Jym Dyer

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Dec 11, 2001, 3:55:54 PM12/11/01
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> You don't think that maybe Superintendent Chalmers yelling at
> Principal Skinner all the time could be a reference to Gomer
> Pyle? A double redirected reference, as it were?

=v= I do think that could be so, though Pyle is yelled at with
a downward emphasis ("PY-yull"), whereas "See-MORE" and "Een-OS"
go in the other direction. Both are more like an old radio show
than Gomer Pyle, at least to my ears.
<_Jym_>

Leandro Pardini

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Dec 11, 2001, 10:45:14 PM12/11/01
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>> =v= Bender's head being buried since 1947 reminds me of Marvin
>> the Paranoid Android. Marvin ultimately lived three(?) times
>> as long as the universe, what with all the time-travelling that
>> humans put him through.

Three times? Nope, thirty-seven times! Remember this bit from the last
episode of 'So long, and thanks for all the fish':

>"What do you know of always? You say `always' to me, who, because
>of the silly little errands your organic lifeforms keep on sending
>me through time on, am now thirty-seven times older than the
>Universe itself?"

Anyway, I really think that this was a very-direct reference to Star
Trek TNG's episode "Time's Arrow", where not only they find Data's
head after 500 years of being buried in San Francisco, but also they
re-attach the 500-year old head to his body... and it works!

Read you later,
Leandro.

luther miller

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Dec 12, 2001, 11:45:17 AM12/12/01
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The alarm sound in the ship is the sound from the old star trek series.

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Jym Dyer

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Dec 12, 2001, 5:58:33 PM12/12/01
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=v= Okay, I watched some more, so here's some more stuff!

===================
> Did You Notice...
===================

... the 48-star American flag at Roswell Air Base?

... the Kentucky Fried Chicken bucket when they fed
Zoidberg?

... Mildred has the Ten Commandments on the wall?

... the conspiracy nut's photo of the Planet Express ship,
which has that trademark Groening overbite, came out
looking like the Loch Ness Monster, which has the same
overbite?

==============================
> Movie (and other) references
==============================

=v= When the jeeps arrived to find Zoidberg, all we saw were
their headlights, just like in _The_X-Files_?

=================================
> Comments and other observations
=================================

=v= This time I noticed the resemblance between the graffiti
Zoidberg on the missile and the classic Kilroy doodle.

=v= When the _Star_Trek_ red alert sounds came on, Leela told
everyone to fasten their seatbelts. I thought this was pretty
funny, because there are no seatbelts in _Star_Trek_. At one
point somebody asked the producers why there were no seatbelts,
and they answered it was because then the actors couldn't fall
out of their chairs.

<_Jym_>

Ben Stevens

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Dec 13, 2001, 5:50:10 AM12/13/01
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> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:10:34 GMT, "LooseChanj" <Loose...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Jym Dyer" <j...@econet.org> wrote in message
> >news:Jym.wzbsh...@econet.org...
> >> ... they had a "Hard Croon" cafe because rock didn't exist yet?
> >
> >Yeah. R.I.P. Frank.
> >
> >> ... the "Zoidberg skull" drawn next to the "Roswell That
> >> Ends Well" graffiti on the missile?
> >
> >Speaking of that missle, what was the point?
>
> It's the first time an actual show title has been shown during the
> episode. Futurama requires a point? 8)

"Roswell that ends well" is actually a book, i saw it when i did a google
for the episode

Robert Teague

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Dec 13, 2001, 7:04:00 PM12/13/01
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> =v= Does anyone recognize that blurry lights photo that was
> supposedly of Harry Truman? I think it's famous UFO arcana,
> but I can't quite place it.

I'm pretty sure it's the Marfa Lights. Or maybe the Lubbock Lights.

Robert
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sorcerer. But noooo, they tell us we have to 'move with the times'!"

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Robert Teague

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Dec 13, 2001, 7:10:08 PM12/13/01
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> ==============================
> > Movie (and other) references
> ==============================

> =v= The hot-to-trot ancestor reminds me of _Back_to_the_Future_


> (where nothing came between Marty and his Calvins).

Another BTTF reference--the diner Fry and Enos went into was the
Hill Valley diner where Marty McFly found his father in 1955. It was a
dance studio in 1985, and an antique shop in 2015.

LooseChanj

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Dec 13, 2001, 11:42:14 PM12/13/01
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"Robert Teague" <rte...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Another BTTF reference--the diner Fry and Enos went into was the
> Hill Valley diner where Marty McFly found his father in 1955. It was a
> dance studio in 1985, and an antique shop in 2015.

Ummm, I do believe it was an 80's cafe in 2015.

Jym Dyer

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Dec 14, 2001, 3:25:47 AM12/14/01
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> "Roswell that ends well" is actually a book, i saw it when i
> did a google for the episode

=v= Somebody in the German newsgroup (de.tv.futurama) says that
the title comes from a commercial host-your-own-mystery game.
<_Jym_>

Robert J. Muldoon

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Dec 14, 2001, 4:19:16 AM12/14/01
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<< I'm pretty sure it's the Marfa Lights. Or maybe the Lubbock Lights. >>

It's the Lubbock Lights. The second is, of course, the infamous surgeon's
photo of Nessie from 1934 (since proven false).

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Robert J. Muldoon

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Dec 14, 2001, 4:20:54 AM12/14/01
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<< Ummm, I do believe it was an 80's cafe in 2015. >>

And probably on the spot of the saloon in 1885.

Ben Stevens

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lol

wacky germans

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Michael Herzog

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Dec 14, 2001, 11:57:36 AM12/14/01
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"Ben Stevens" <benst...@optushome.com.au> schrieb

> wacky germans

So wacky it's the first thing you find when you try Google. ;)

http://www.mystery-games.com/wooden-horse/rosthatenwel.html


Benjamin Robinson

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Dec 15, 2001, 10:01:30 PM12/15/01
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In alt.tv.futurama, on the "[3ACV19] "Roswell That Ends Well" Stuff" thread,
Jym Dyer wrote:

>=v= The graffiti on the missile ... _Independence_Day_, right?
>(I have a Cubert-like observation about how Jeff Goldblum, with
>the clock ticking while trying to save the Earth by uploading a
>virus to the alien computers, took the time to either puzzle out
>their graphics display format or upload the Wingdings font, all
>so that they'd see human skulls on their screens, which would
>hardly be frightening to them, now would it? But that's neither
>here nor there.)

If you're going to nit-pick about that, you might as well comment on the
improbability of (a) the aliens running computer hardware that is
binary-compatible with our own and (b) the aliens running an OS similar
enough to our own that Goldblum could write a virus exploiting it.

And you just know that, weeks before the invasion, the aliens' IT department
sent an e-mail about not running programs coming from an unknown source ...
--
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Do all without doing." -- The Beatles

LooseChanj

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Dec 16, 2001, 12:03:54 PM12/16/01
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"Benjamin Robinson" <bj...@freenet.tlh.fl.us> wrote in message
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> If you're going to nit-pick about that, you might as well comment on the
> improbability of (a) the aliens running computer hardware that is
> binary-compatible with our own and (b) the aliens running an OS similar
> enough to our own that Goldblum could write a virus exploiting it.

You know, that's one thing in the novelization that made sense. It wasn't
really a virus, they just reverse engineered the *signal* which turned
shields off, and used the captured ship to broadcast it to the mother
vessel.

Leandro Pardini

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Dec 16, 2001, 10:32:35 PM12/16/01
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> > >Speaking of that missle, what was the point?
> >
> > It's the first time an actual show title has been shown during the
> > episode. Futurama requires a point? 8)

Nope, it's not - the first time was in 1ACV09, when the Robot Devil
handed Bender a brochure that had 'Hell is Other Robots' (the
episode's title) written on it.

Read you later,
Leandro.
www.leela.com.ar

Brion K. Lienhart

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Dec 18, 2001, 11:52:43 AM12/18/01
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"Benjamin Robinson" <bj...@freenet.tlh.fl.us> wrote in message
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> In alt.tv.futurama, on the "[3ACV19] "Roswell That Ends Well" Stuff"
thread,

> And you just know that, weeks before the invasion, the aliens' IT


department
> sent an e-mail about not running programs coming from an unknown source
...

Send this e-mail to everyone you know! Human Autopsy Photos!! Real and
Untouched! Barely Legal Neptarian Wenches want to have Skxgqer with You!

Boldra

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Dec 19, 2001, 4:54:02 PM12/19/01
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Benjamin Robinson wrote:

>
> If you're going to nit-pick about that, you might as well comment on the
> improbability of (a) the aliens running computer hardware that is
> binary-compatible with our own and (b) the aliens running an OS similar
> enough to our own that Goldblum could write a virus exploiting it.
>
> And you just know that, weeks before the invasion, the aliens' IT department
> sent an e-mail about not running programs coming from an unknown source ...
>

When I first saw that I assumed they were saying that *our* computer

technology was based on *theirs*. Quite a neat explanation, really.


Boldra

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