thc effects on the brain
Smokey bear
I am intersted in the effects marijuana has on a brain.
There are two opponing parties, the one claiming that marijuana kills
brain cells and the other claiming that it doesn't.
Are there any serious reports about it or could anyone of you help me any further?
Thanks in advance
Mark London
In a previous article, kokel...@hotmail.com (Smokey bear) wrote:
->I am intersted in the effects marijuana has on a brain.
->There are two opponing parties, the one claiming that marijuana kills
->brain cells and the other claiming that it doesn't.
->Are there any serious reports about it or could anyone of you help me any further?
Mark London
M...@PSFC.MIT.EDU
Elizabeth
Interesting. But as it relates to MEDICAL mar., well, to put it
bluntly... who gives a rats ass. I truly believe un-alleviated long
term pain is more harmful on the body and mind than many people (and
doctors) fully realize.
Eliz.
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"aaaasssssssshhhHHHHHOLE!"
(Otto)
Michael
"Elizabeth" <el...@home.com> wrote in message news:3B249F2F...@home.com...
Your point on long-term pain is well put, especially the bit about doctors not
fully realizing its harmful effects (on practically every aspect of the lives of
people in chronic pain.)
But as to who gives a rat's ass about the "interesting" data in the ref'd
paper... well... *I* give a rat's ass when (as alluded to in the final couple of
sentences,) the actual point of the paper is to provide comparative (and
seemingly damning) data on the drug's potential for abuse.
I was taught that science should be conducted in the pursuit of truth... not
merely the pursuit of proof.
((U))
M
Elizabeth
minimize the amount of time I spend pissed-off every day.
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brad
I was told that marijuana first effects the short term memory and then
the long term memory? Am I correct in thinking this way???
Arclight
nope,
it doesn't necesarily adversely affect your short term memory, (for me
it actually improves it), and as far as I'm aware it doesn't affect
long term memory at all.
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: On 18 Jun 2001 07:27:55 -0700, brad...@hotmail.com (brad) wrote:
:>m...@psfc.mit.edu (Mark London) wrote in message news:<10JUN01....@psfc.mit.edu>...
:>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10368032&dopt=Abstract
:>>
:>> In a previous article, kokel...@hotmail.com (Smokey bear) wrote:
:>> ->I am intersted in the effects marijuana has on a brain.
:>> ->There are two opponing parties, the one claiming that marijuana kills
:>> ->brain cells and the other claiming that it doesn't.
:>> ->Are there any serious reports about it or could anyone of you help me any further?
:>>
:>> Mark London
:>> M...@PSFC.MIT.EDU
:>
:>I was told that marijuana first effects the short term memory and then
:>the long term memory? Am I correct in thinking this way???
: nope,
: it doesn't necesarily adversely affect your short term memory, (for me
: it actually improves it), and as far as I'm aware it doesn't affect
: long term memory at all.
My only experience with Neuroscience is at the Undergraduate level -- but
i do understand that marijuana products seems to interfere with the
ability to lay down new memories. Thus, it can impair, short-term memory
and learning abilities.
-
-ECV
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And therefore is wing'd Cupid painted blind."
(A Midsummer Night's Dream,I,i)
Arclight
<7e...@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote:
it can, but it can also have exactly the opposite effect.
Carey Gregory
>On 19 Jun 2001 14:17:44 GMT, Emma Chase VanCott
><7e...@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote:
>
>>My only experience with Neuroscience is at the Undergraduate level -- but
>>i do understand that marijuana products seems to interfere with the
>>ability to lay down new memories. Thus, it can impair, short-term memory
>>and learning abilities.
>
>it can, but it can also have exactly the opposite effect.
That's certainly news to me. Do you have something other than
anecdote for that?
Arclight
nothing but personal experience, and the results of me and some of my
friends from a small study my best friend did for her psychology
A-Level project on memory, in it I managed to remember 60 odd percent
of the words on a list when sober, when I was stoned I managed 90 odd
percent.
Carey Gregory
>nothing but personal experience, and the results of me and some of my
>friends from a small study my best friend did for her psychology
>A-Level project on memory, in it I managed to remember 60 odd percent
>of the words on a list when sober, when I was stoned I managed 90 odd
>percent.
I'd be surprised if you could repeat those results, although I suppose
idiosyncracies happen. The negative effects on short term memory are
well documented, and in my personal experience people stoned on pot
rarely leave the party *with* their keys.
Arclight
<nos...@gw-dash-tech.com> wrote:
>
>I'd be surprised if you could repeat those results, although I suppose
>idiosyncracies happen.
we did repeat them on 3 separate days,
> The negative effects on short term memory are
>well documented,
yeah but so is the idea that it is addictive.
>and in my personal experience people stoned on pot
>rarely leave the party *with* their keys.
so your into swinging then?
Carey Gregory
>On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:21:46 -0400, Carey Gregory
><nos...@gw-dash-tech.com> wrote:
>
>> The negative effects on short term memory are
>>well documented,
>
>yeah but so is the idea that it is addictive.
People might have that *idea*, but unlike the short term memory
effects there's no research that says it's phsyically addictive. Big
difference between what the public thinks and published research.
Your experience notwithstanding, the short term memory effects are
real and well documented.
>>and in my personal experience people stoned on pot
>>rarely leave the party *with* their keys.
>
>so your into swinging then?
Well, haven't been on a swing since I was a kid..... ;-)
news.planetinternet.be
that was found on his bankaccount. He couldn't remember. And he did not
smoke pot. Isn't that strange ?
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Phil Stovell
<daniel...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:21:46 -0400, Carey Gregory
><nos...@gw-dash-tech.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I'd be surprised if you could repeat those results, although I suppose
>>idiosyncracies happen.
>
>we did repeat them on 3 separate days,
>
>> The negative effects on short term memory are
>>well documented,
>
>yeah but so is the idea that it is addictive.
>
>>and in my personal experience people stoned on pot
>>rarely leave the party *with* their keys.
>
>so your into swinging then?
ROFL!
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<nos...@gw-dash-tech.com> wrote:
>Arclight <daniel...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:21:46 -0400, Carey Gregory
>><nos...@gw-dash-tech.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The negative effects on short term memory are
>>>well documented,
>>
>>yeah but so is the idea that it is addictive.
>
>People might have that *idea*, but unlike the short term memory
>effects there's no research that says it's phsyically addictive. Big
>difference between what the public thinks and published research.
>Your experience notwithstanding, the short term memory effects are
>real and well documented.
Yes, and disappear when not intoxicated. You can remember where you left your
keys :-). Unlike alcohol, where the memory loss becomes permanent.
>>>and in my personal experience people stoned on pot
>>>rarely leave the party *with* their keys.
>>
>>so your into swinging then?
>
>Well, haven't been on a swing since I was a kid..... ;-)
:-)
Arclight
wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:29:43 GMT in sci.med.cannabis, Arclight
><daniel...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:21:46 -0400, Carey Gregory
>><nos...@gw-dash-tech.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I'd be surprised if you could repeat those results, although I suppose
>>>idiosyncracies happen.
>>
>>we did repeat them on 3 separate days,
>>
>>> The negative effects on short term memory are
>>>well documented,
>>
>>yeah but so is the idea that it is addictive.
>>
>>>and in my personal experience people stoned on pot
>>>rarely leave the party *with* their keys.
>>
>>so your into swinging then?
>
>ROFL!
It had to be said :)
Carey Gregory
>Yes, and disappear when not intoxicated.
Yes, apparently.
>You can remember where you left your
>keys :-). Unlike alcohol, where the memory loss becomes permanent.
Perhaps permanent (from alcohol's interference with memory storage
mechanisms), or perhaps state dependent. State dependency might
figure into Arclight's claim of having better short-term memory while
smoking pot.
State dependent learning is a fascinating phenomenon and it occurs
with both alcohol and pot. This is a gross over-simplification, but
basically if you learn something while taking drug X, you'll recall it
better under drug X than you will without it. In other words, you
might remember where you left the keys you lost when drunk by getting
drunk again.
Carey Gregory
>>so your into swinging then?
>
>ROFL!
Is the joke here a UK thing? Maybe I'm just being slow, but I must
confess I didn't really get it.
Arclight
Swinging is like wifeswapping, and you said that most stoners you knew
didn't go home with their own keys, which means they are going home
with someone elses keys, which in some parts of the swinging community
means they are going to sleep with someone else at their home.
Carey Gregory
>Swinging is like wifeswapping, and you said that most stoners you knew
>didn't go home with their own keys, which means they are going home
>with someone elses keys, which in some parts of the swinging community
>means they are going to sleep with someone else at their home.
Ah... okay. I guess I sort of knew that, but maybe I'm developing a
short term humor problem.... ;-)
Arclight
or your just not a perv who get's that type of joke, most people I
know wouldn't understand references like that to swinging.
Kristin Lee
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effects are not the common occurrance.
s.wolgen
That's no permanent damage, therefore it also regains after a few monthj of
abstinence.
Close relatives that kicked the habit needed almost a whole year to regain
their complete short term memory.
Ask anyone that has been clean for a few month.They'll tell you that they
feel more clear.
On itself it seems as the sedative effect of thc filters some impressions,
leaving a more focused state of attention, when interested in the subject
matter.
Holding a toke for more than 5 seconds can induce permanent brain damage,
due to a oxygen deficiency.
Dont forget that some of the gasses inhaled are poisonous (corbon mono- and
dioxide, tar, etc_) especially if you roll "Dutch" style > with tobacco that
is ).
So my advice buy a vaporizer , or smoke pure in a paper, bt dont overdo the
inhaling part.Exhale within those 5 secs........
By the way , smoking after having had a beer DOES cause permanent damage.
These and other facts have been told to me by my fysician.
I trust the dude.
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