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Incubus

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Oct 31, 2002, 6:07:32 PM10/31/02
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I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman. I
had to wonder what kind of sicko Desi was for posting this and this was
proving the dethies opinions about aboloshonists to be correct but then
again i ask why i or we found these pictures so disturbing? Death happens
every day and is a natural thing. Is it because we bury our dead and never
see what happens to them? is it because what lies beyond is unknown or is it
something else?

dirtdog

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<snip the thick cunt trying to be profound>

Do fuck off, Incubus...

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Subject: why do we fear the dead
From: "Incubus" inc...@river.styx
Date: 10/31/2002 6:07 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <4Jiw9.4988$Xg.8...@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>

===============================

When Dezzi was a small child he used to play with his.....er.....ah....his
"caca". He rolled into balls like he was playing with putty and show it to his
family.

The laughed because they thought it was cute. Dezi loved the attention he
received and continue to play with his caca.

As he grew older, the shcok value wore off and he felt his popularity waning.
Unable to bear such a turn of events, he took to ther forms of entertainment.
Unfortunatly, the only response ( negative) he got was shock and dismay from
his audience.

However, in his mind, attention was attention. He long ago discovered he loved
attention regardless of how he got it, so his silly games continued on to this
day.

J.J.

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0000, "Incubus" <inc...@river.styx>
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>I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman. I

Don't read too much into this, Desi was simply sharing his porn
collection with us.

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 10/31/2002 10:09 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnas3s2l.6m.p...@lievre.voute.net>

Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :

> I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman. I
> had to wonder what kind of sicko Desi was for posting this and this was
> proving the dethies opinions about aboloshonists to be correct but then
> again i ask why i or we found these pictures so disturbing? Death happens
> every day and is a natural thing. Is it because we bury our dead and never
> see what happens to them? is it because what lies beyond is unknown or is it
> something else?

I didn't think that you would be the one to pose such a question, incubus,
but there you have it. The violent response among deathies upon seeing
my page [1], only serves to confirm their fear of death, and the dead. When
I posted my link [2], LDB's frenzied response in particular, at seeing a
dead body [3], was quite amusing. Which is, of course, why I posted my
link [4] in the first place.

My late and much belovèd father was a cop. Attending a post mortem one
day, he took along a 'rookie', who of course when he saw the body on the
slab, threw up. Later on, he asked my father whether he was afraid of the
dead. My father replied that the dead couldn't hurt him; it's the living
that cause all the harm.

Don't be like AADP's resident Pope, incubus. The dead can do you no harm.
It's the savage, sexually depraved, redneck _living_ deathies, who hurt, and
lie, and derive sexual pleasure from suffering, and who spread their poison
across the earth like a bad Jeffrey Archer [5] novel.

===============================
Dont be so sure about the dead doing no harm Dezi. When an autopsy is performed
on the deceased, the ME gets all decked out in surgical garb. From the bottom
up he wears sanitary shoe coverings, surgical gown, gloves, face mask,
protective face shield and head covering.

Why? Because of AIDS. Common belief is that once a person is dead, there is no
danger from the AIDS virus. This is not correct. No one knows just what it does
and does not do.

That is why "universal precautions" are always taken. To say the dead cannot
hurt you is incorrect.

Jigsaw

JIGSAW1695

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Oct 31, 2002, 11:46:51 PM10/31/02
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Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 10/31/2002 11:06 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnas3ve5.59l.p...@lievre.voute.net>

Le 01 Nov 2002 03:33:26 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :

{ snip }

>> Don't be like AADP's resident Pope, incubus. The dead can do you no harm.
>> It's the savage, sexually depraved, redneck _living_ deathies, who hurt, and
>> lie, and derive sexual pleasure from suffering, and who spread their poison
>> across the earth like a bad Jeffrey Archer [5] novel.

> Dont be so sure about the dead doing no harm Dezi. When an autopsy is


performed
> on the deceased, the ME gets all decked out in surgical garb. From the bottom
> up he wears sanitary shoe coverings, surgical gown, gloves, face mask,
> protective face shield and head covering.
>
> Why? Because of AIDS. Common belief is that once a person is dead, there is
no
> danger from the AIDS virus. This is not correct. No one knows just what it
does
> and does not do.
>
> That is why "universal precautions" are always taken. To say the dead cannot
> hurt you is incorrect.

Erm, Jigsaw ... when one says that the dead cannot harm you, one _usually_
means that they cannot _intentionally_ do so. If you get splashed wih HIV-
infected blood during an 'autopsy' (sic), you may be sure that the dead person
is not deliberately splashing you with its blood.


Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
===============================

Dezi, my lad, you are reported to have a degree in literature, and should
therefore know how to write clearly.

Unfortunatly, you did failed in this particular case. Stop blaming others for
you own personal inadequacies.

You stated "the dead cannot harm you". You did not put a qualification on it.
And getting "Splashed with HIV infected blood.." is not acurate either. The
danger is geting a small nick in the skin from a misused scapel, or getting
cut on a bone fragment or shell fragment while working on the cadaver.

Try to be a little more clear next time. Also take a remedial course in writen
communications. Take Jurgen with you.

Richard J

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Oct 31, 2002, 11:40:46 PM10/31/02
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Speak for yourself. I stopped fearing death a long time ago. I've seen
much worse than that poor rotting corpse. Death isn't hard. Everyone
dies sooner or later, it's living which is hard.

Teflon

A Planet Visitor

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"Incubus" <inc...@river.styx> wrote in message news:4Jiw9.4988$Xg.8...@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...

None of the above... it is because desi revels in 'pictures of dead and
decayed' bodies. Your first thought, is usually the most correct, since
it comes from the part of your brain that responds to immediate stimuli.
Your opinion that desi is a sicko was right on point.

PV


A Planet Visitor

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"Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3DC205CE...@hotmail.com...
It is not death we fear... but the disgusting portrayal of 'dead and decaying'
bodies, that should shock our sensibilities. A voyeur descent into areas
that belong in two dollar 'true crimes' paperbacks. Clearly, desi revels in
such voyeurism. The pictures do not speak of the 'dead,' they speak of
DESI... and his character. Describing the teenage victim of a murder,
falling with open thighs, and satisfying his covert observation of her
uncovered pubic area, speaking of 'perhaps I should have raped her first,'
as the semen stains the front of his pants in his description. His giggles
at each and every tragedy which befalls our species... certainly expressing
a voyeuristic pleasure.

The pictures of the 'dead and decaying' bodies was not meant to make a
statement in respect to the DP. It was MEANT to disgust the sensibilities
of every poster here. In that respect, it had NOTHING to do with the DP,
but was merely a demonstration of desi's latent dark and unhealthy appetite
for the macabre and the grotesque. I was not the only one who recognized
this dark side to his character... I was simply the strongest voice. And
living is hard enough as it is, without having to view the perversion of
another, who finds death to be a 'giggle.' What desi tried to do was
TRIVIALIZE not death, but LIFE.

PV


> Teflon
>

A Planet Visitor

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
> I didn't think that you would be the one to pose such a question, incubus,
> but there you have it. The violent response among deathies upon seeing
> my page [1], only serves to confirm their fear of death, and the dead. When
> I posted my link [2], LDB's frenzied response in particular, at seeing a
> dead body [3], was quite amusing. Which is, of course, why I posted my
> link [4] in the first place.
>
> My late and much belovèd father was a cop.

You know, desi, this is probably another one of your 'fantasies' to keep
your 'image' here. Right along with your 'fluent Hebrew and German,'
and 'drewl firebombed my flat.' Perhaps you could post some
document to your URL to verify that fact, to put our minds at rest that
you are not simply trying to 'gain our sympathy' for your depravity.

> Attending a post mortem one
> day, he took along a 'rookie', who of course when he saw the body on the
> slab, threw up. Later on, he asked my father whether he was afraid of the
> dead. My father replied that the dead couldn't hurt him; it's the living
> that cause all the harm.
>

We all know that, from YOUR presence here, desi.

> Don't be like AADP's resident Pope, incubus. The dead can do you no harm.
> It's the savage, sexually depraved, redneck _living_ deathies, who hurt, and
> lie, and derive sexual pleasure from suffering, and who spread their poison
> across the earth like a bad Jeffrey Archer [5] novel.
>

> Come over to the abolitionist side. Dwell in the light. Feel the sun on
> your skin. No longer fear her caress. Tarry no more in the vile, stinking
> pit of vomit and semen-infested deathyism. Choose life [6].
>
> [1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [2] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [3] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [4] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [5] there's a tautology, if ever I saw one ...
> [6] yes, I finally got to say it in a post !!
>

Pathetic drivel meant to try and justify being a pervert.

PV

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|Spiritual Leader of the Universal
|Right to Life Church. (umm... get
|away from me -- you filthy black
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Incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit
:
>
> I didn't think that you would be the one to pose such a question, incubus,
> but there you have it. The violent response among deathies upon seeing
> my page [1], only serves to confirm their fear of death, and the dead.
When
> I posted my link [2], LDB's frenzied response in particular, at seeing a
> dead body [3], was quite amusing. Which is, of course, why I posted my
> link [4] in the first place.
>
> My late and much belovèd father was a cop. Attending a post mortem one

> day, he took along a 'rookie', who of course when he saw the body on the
> slab, threw up. Later on, he asked my father whether he was afraid of the
> dead. My father replied that the dead couldn't hurt him; it's the living
> that cause all the harm.
>
> Don't be like AADP's resident Pope, incubus. The dead can do you no harm.
> It's the savage, sexually depraved, redneck _living_ deathies, who hurt,
and
> lie, and derive sexual pleasure from suffering, and who spread their
poison
> across the earth like a bad Jeffrey Archer [5] novel.
>
> Come over to the abolitionist side. Dwell in the light. Feel the sun on
> your skin. No longer fear her caress. Tarry no more in the vile,
stinking
> pit of vomit and semen-infested deathyism. Choose life [6].
>
> [1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [2] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [3] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [4] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
> [5] there's a tautology, if ever I saw one ...
> [6] yes, I finally got to say it in a post !!

it wasn't an outburst Desi. it was a genuine question. Why do we fear the
dead? your father was right, they cannot hurt us or anyone else but why do
we still panic when we see a corpse. I have seen two dead in my life and i
don't wish to see anymore.


Incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:26 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> > it wasn't an outburst Desi. it was a genuine question. Why do we fear
the
> > dead? your father was right, they cannot hurt us or anyone else but why
do
> > we still panic when we see a corpse. I have seen two dead in my life and
i
> > don't wish to see anymore.
>
> Because it reminds us of our own mortality ? If you're terrified of
death,
> as most people are, seeing a corpse is like a voice in your head reminding
> you that you'll be lying there one day. Those of us free of the fear of
> dying, do not share this phobia.

That actually makes sense Desi, which is rare for an aboloshonist ;-) You
think that because i am afraid of dying then i am afraid of everything
associated with human death? I wouldn't say that but i understand your
reasoning.


Incubus

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> Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:34:52 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > That actually makes sense Desi, which is rare for an aboloshonist ;-)
>
> When I and other abolitionists write on this newsgroup, incubus, we
_always_
> make sense. We are writing _ex cathedra_, and are thus infallible. We
> _cannot_ be wrong.

to a schizophrenic, his own logic makes sense.
>
> { snip }
>
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Richard J

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We ALL have a dark side in one way or another.

Teflon

Incubus

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Obi one has taught you well young jedi :-)
>
> Teflon


Incubus

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:13:02 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
> >> > That actually makes sense Desi, which is rare for an aboloshonist ;-)
>
> >> When I and other abolitionists write on this newsgroup, incubus, we
> > _always_
> >> make sense. We are writing _ex cathedra_, and are thus infallible. We
> >> _cannot_ be wrong.
>
> > to a schizophrenic, his own logic makes sense.
>
> Des II agrees.

well you are never alone with schizophrenia are you succubus?
no you aren't, incubus


Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:19:05 +0000
>
>Le Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:00:52 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
>
>{ snip 'non-entity's' attempts to ingratiate himself to Richard }
>
>ROTFLMAO !!!
>
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html


>
>--
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In article <slrnas4tok.fet.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:44:04 +0000
>
>Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:34:52 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }


>
>> That actually makes sense Desi, which is rare for an aboloshonist ;-)
>
>When I and other abolitionists write on this newsgroup, incubus, we _always_
>make sense. We are writing _ex cathedra_, and are thus infallible. We
>_cannot_ be wrong.
>

>{ snip }


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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:17:10 +0000
>
>Le Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:00:53 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a
>écrit :
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>{ snip }
>


>>> My late and much belovèd father was a cop.
>

>> You know, desi, this is probably another one of your 'fantasies' to keep
>> your 'image' here. Right along with your 'fluent Hebrew and German,'
>> and 'drewl firebombed my flat.' Perhaps you could post some
>> document to your URL to verify that fact, to put our minds at rest that
>> you are not simply trying to 'gain our sympathy' for your depravity.
>

>Ho, ho, ho ... you obsessive moron.
>
>{ snip LDB jumping and showing how he's my puppet }


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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:19:05 +0000
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>Le Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:30:32 -0600, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
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>{ snip more '"fire-'n'-brimstone ... rock-'n'-roll music ... damn their
> souls !"' [1], desk-thumping, spittle-flecked rage from LDB }


>
>> We ALL have a dark side in one way or another.
>

>Indeed, and we also all have our fears. Whilst I certainly intended to
>piss off LDB with that URL, I didn't anticipate that it would expose his
>deepest terrors, and cause them to spill over like putrid, green bile
>onto the newsgroup.
>
>I'm just delighted that it happened that way. :-)
>
>
>[1] with apologies to Joni ...

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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:31:47 +0000


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>Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:26 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
>

>> it wasn't an outburst Desi. it was a genuine question. Why do we fear the
>> dead? your father was right, they cannot hurt us or anyone else but why do
>> we still panic when we see a corpse. I have seen two dead in my life and i
>> don't wish to see anymore.
>
>Because it reminds us of our own mortality ? If you're terrified of death,
>as most people are, seeing a corpse is like a voice in your head reminding
>you that you'll be lying there one day. Those of us free of the fear of
>dying, do not share this phobia.
>

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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:49:23 +0000


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>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:40:46 -0600, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
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>>> I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman.
>I
>>> had to wonder what kind of sicko Desi was for posting this and this was
>>> proving the dethies opinions about aboloshonists to be correct but then
>>> again i ask why i or we found these pictures so disturbing? Death happens
>>> every day and is a natural thing. Is it because we bury our dead and never
>>> see what happens to them? is it because what lies beyond is unknown or is
>it
>>> something else?
>
>> Speak for yourself. I stopped fearing death a long time ago. I've seen
>> much worse than that poor rotting corpse. Death isn't hard. Everyone
>> dies sooner or later, it's living which is hard.
>

>Exactly.

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:14:10 +0000


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>Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:13:02 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
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>>> > That actually makes sense Desi, which is rare for an aboloshonist ;-)
>
>>> When I and other abolitionists write on this newsgroup, incubus, we
>> _always_
>>> make sense. We are writing _ex cathedra_, and are thus infallible. We
>>> _cannot_ be wrong.
>

>> to a schizophrenic, his own logic makes sense.
>
>Des II agrees.
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:06:31 +0000


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>Le 01 Nov 2002 03:33:26 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
>

>>> Don't be like AADP's resident Pope, incubus. The dead can do you no harm.
>>> It's the savage, sexually depraved, redneck _living_ deathies, who hurt,
>and
>>> lie, and derive sexual pleasure from suffering, and who spread their
>poison
>>> across the earth like a bad Jeffrey Archer [5] novel.
>

>> Dont be so sure about the dead doing no harm Dezi. When an autopsy is
>performed
>> on the deceased, the ME gets all decked out in surgical garb. From the
>bottom
>> up he wears sanitary shoe coverings, surgical gown, gloves, face mask,
>> protective face shield and head covering.
>>
>> Why? Because of AIDS. Common belief is that once a person is dead, there is
>no
>> danger from the AIDS virus. This is not correct. No one knows just what it
>does
>> and does not do.
>>
>> That is why "universal precautions" are always taken. To say the dead
>cannot
>> hurt you is incorrect.
>
>Erm, Jigsaw ... when one says that the dead cannot harm you, one _usually_
>means that they cannot _intentionally_ do so. If you get splashed wih HIV-
>infected blood during an 'autopsy' (sic), you may be sure that the dead
>person
>is not deliberately splashing you with its blood.
>

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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 03:09:10 +0000


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>Le Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
>> I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman.
>I
>> had to wonder what kind of sicko Desi was for posting this and this was
>> proving the dethies opinions about aboloshonists to be correct but then
>> again i ask why i or we found these pictures so disturbing? Death happens
>> every day and is a natural thing. Is it because we bury our dead and never
>> see what happens to them? is it because what lies beyond is unknown or is
>it
>> something else?
>

>I didn't think that you would be the one to pose such a question, incubus,
>but there you have it. The violent response among deathies upon seeing
>my page [1], only serves to confirm their fear of death, and the dead. When
>I posted my link [2], LDB's frenzied response in particular, at seeing a
>dead body [3], was quite amusing. Which is, of course, why I posted my
>link [4] in the first place.
>
>My late and much belovèd father was a cop. Attending a post mortem one
>day, he took along a 'rookie', who of course when he saw the body on the
>slab, threw up. Later on, he asked my father whether he was afraid of the
>dead. My father replied that the dead couldn't hurt him; it's the living
>that cause all the harm.
>

>Don't be like AADP's resident Pope, incubus. The dead can do you no harm.
>It's the savage, sexually depraved, redneck _living_ deathies, who hurt, and
>lie, and derive sexual pleasure from suffering, and who spread their poison
>across the earth like a bad Jeffrey Archer [5] novel.
>

>Come over to the abolitionist side. Dwell in the light. Feel the sun on
>your skin. No longer fear her caress. Tarry no more in the vile, stinking
>pit of vomit and semen-infested deathyism. Choose life [6].
>
>[1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
>[2] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
>[3] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
>[4] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
>[5] there's a tautology, if ever I saw one ...
>[6] yes, I finally got to say it in a post !!

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:57:48 +0000


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>Le 01 Nov 2002 04:46:51 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
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>{ snip }
>

>>> Erm, Jigsaw ... when one says that the dead cannot harm you, one _usually_
>>> means that they cannot _intentionally_ do so. If you get splashed wih
>HIV-
>>> infected blood during an 'autopsy' (sic), you may be sure that the dead
>person
>>> is not deliberately splashing you with its blood.
>

>> Dezi, my lad, you are reported to have a degree in literature, and should
>> therefore know how to write clearly.
>>
>> Unfortunatly, you did failed
>

>LOL !!


>
>> You stated "the dead cannot harm you". You did not put a qualification on
>it.
>> And getting "Splashed with HIV infected blood.." is not acurate either.
>The
>> danger is geting a small nick in the skin from a misused scapel, or
>getting
>> cut on a bone fragment or shell fragment while working on the cadaver.
>>
>> Try to be a little more clear next time. Also take a remedial course in
>writen
>> communications. Take Jurgen with you.
>

>OK, I'll concede that point, even though I'm sure that 99.99% of posters here
>knew what I meant when I said 'the dead cannot harm you'. Just as they
>cannot be 'honored' (sic) as they are dead, so they cannot 'harm' you, other
>than in the same way as a chair can 'harm' you if it falls over on your foot.


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> Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:26 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> > it wasn't an outburst Desi. it was a genuine question. Why do we fear the
> > dead? your father was right, they cannot hurt us or anyone else but why do
> > we still panic when we see a corpse. I have seen two dead in my life and i
> > don't wish to see anymore.
>
> Because it reminds us of our own mortality ? If you're terrified of death,
> as most people are, seeing a corpse is like a voice in your head reminding
> you that you'll be lying there one day. Those of us free of the fear of
> dying, do not share this phobia.
>
LOL -- When faced with death these were desi's words -- "Personally, the
guards would have a job holding me down, as the litres of excreta that would
be covering my legs, would make it difficult for them to grab a hold of me"

desi -- afraid of death??... You better believe it. That's simply another
reason he posted those disgusting links to dead and decayed bodies in
rotten.com. His FEAR of death is overpowering. He smells it, tastes
it... and FEARS it.

PV

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> Le Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:30:32 -0600, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip more '"fire-'n'-brimstone ... rock-'n'-roll music ... damn their
> souls !"' [1], desk-thumping, spittle-flecked rage from LDB }
>
> > We ALL have a dark side in one way or another.
>
> Indeed, and we also all have our fears. Whilst I certainly intended to
> piss off LDB with that URL, I didn't anticipate that it would expose his
> deepest terrors, and cause them to spill over like putrid, green bile
> onto the newsgroup.
>
We all know where the 'putrid, green bile' poured on this newsgroup
came from, desi. Nor did you 'intend' to piss me off. Don't lie again.
You intended quite the opposite effect... you thought it was 'funny,'
and found out that I was not the only one who found you to possibly
be losing your sanity in respect to believing you could 'control' this
group with your obscene behavior.

> I'm just delighted that it happened that way. :-)

Once again.. you confuse 'terror' with 'disgust.' You cannot provide
anything that might 'terrorize' me, desi. That is one of your common
misconceptions, used when you lie about me, and others, presuming
that might put 'terror' in them. In truth... you are as impotent as a
sterile mule... and every bit as hard-headed; in respect to possibly
providing anything that would cause a reaction other than gales of
laughter or utter revulsion. Your 'dead bodies' post was of the latter
variety. Although you are an 'equal-opportunity' provider of both
types of posts. I tend to concentrate on the latter lately, because it is
obvious that you are losing control of your mental faculties in the
past month of so, and have exerted the most destructive behavior
ever seen in this group... including joe1orbit and Don Kool.

>
> [1] with apologies to Joni ...

Well, it ain't Joni... but someone decided to 'send in the clowns,'
when you joined this group.

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"Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3DC281F8...@hotmail.com...
Some more than others. Certainly we cannot compare a murderer with
an ordinary citizen. No more than we can compare desi with an
ordinary human. desi has a much darker side than ANY poster here.
Not since the departure of joe1orbit, has a poster here so reveled in
tragedy, and death. Clearly, his posts of those 'dead and decaying'
bodies was not 'making a statement,' but doing a jig in the graveyard.
Since not a word accompanied those pictures. As he has done so
often when any tragedy strikes.

As I pointed out... I was not the only one who found a very unhealthy
pathological drive behind desi posting those decayed bodies. And
I clearly recognized (along with others), that he was giggling hysterically
when he posted that link.


PV


> Teflon
>

G EddieA95

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>desi -- afraid of death??... You better believe it.

So??? That only makes him a normal human being.

IMO, the world would be better off if *every* human being an overpowering fear
of death. There would then be no wars, as no one would fight in them; no
crime, as the thought of being killed by police (never mind execution) would be
a perefect deterrent; no risk-seeking adventurers being pulled off of mountains
half-frozen.

G EddieA95

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>> IMO, the world would be better off if *every* human being an overpowering
>fear
>> of death.
>
>I think that it would be the other way around. Take away the fear of
>death,

Won't work, as you pointed out, so the overpowering fear is the only good
solution.

but the only problem is that this requires 'immortality', and that's
>not an option [1].
>[1] thankfully !!
>--
Speak for yourself Desmond. Why would you not want immortality? Most normal
humans would...

Incubus

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everyone has a fear of death, even Dis but other things overide that fear


G EddieA95

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>everyone has a fear of death, even Dis but other things overide that fear
>

Yup. That's why the fear needs to be made much, much stronger.

G EddieA95

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>Good heavens, no. Living 70 years will be hard enough for this life. I'm
>quite thankful that there won't be any more.

Maybe you. Most people yearn for death to go away.

Jürgen

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>>
>>everyone has a fear of death, even Dis but other things overide that fear
>>
>
>Yup. That's why the fear needs to be made much, much stronger.

Any significanly aggravated fear were paralyzing and counter-productive,
since cowards are simply unable to take any challenges.

J.


G EddieA95

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>since cowards are simply unable to take any challenges.
>

No, only those that have human death as a hazard. There are more important
"challenges" than those involving bodily danger.

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:48:31 +0000
>
>Le Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:47:01 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
><pasdespa...@zeouane.org> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>> Heh ... you're going to have to stop giving my obsessive stalker [1]. :-)
>
>... so many feedlines ...

>
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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:47:01 +0000
>
>Le 02 Nov 2002 16:37:39 GMT, G EddieA95 <gedd...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }


>
>> but the only problem is that this requires 'immortality', and that's
>>>not an option [1].
>>>[1] thankfully !!
>

>> Speak for yourself Desmond. Why would you not want immortality?
>

>Good heavens, no. Living 70 years will be hard enough for this life. I'm
>quite thankful that there won't be any more.
>

>> Most normal humans would...


>
>Heh ... you're going to have to stop giving my obsessive stalker [1]. :-)
>

>Oh, and try to avoid using the word 'normal', please. It's _loaded_
>with value judgement.
>
>
>
>[1] LDB, aka FW, aka tPfnaPV, aka The Fraud, aka The Pope ...

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Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:23:18 +0000


>
>Le 02 Nov 2002 16:19:14 GMT, G EddieA95 <gedd...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
>>>desi -- afraid of death??... You better believe it.
>
>> So??? That only makes him a normal human being.
>

>Ho, ho, ho ... who wants to give odds for what LDB's rote, '48-timer'
>insult is going to be, in response to that ?


>
>> IMO, the world would be better off if *every* human being an overpowering
>fear
>> of death. There would then be no wars, as no one would fight in them; no
>> crime, as the thought of being killed by police (never mind execution)
>would be
>> a perefect deterrent; no risk-seeking adventurers being pulled off of
>mountains
>> half-frozen.
>

>I think that it would be the other way around. Take away the fear of

>death, but the only problem is that this requires 'immortality', and that's


>not an option [1].
>
>
>[1] thankfully !!

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> >desi -- afraid of death??... You better believe it.
>
> So??? That only makes him a normal human being.
>
No... it makes him a hypocrite. Because he has said as I
previously noted, that when faced with death --

1) "Personally, the guards would have a job holding me down, as the


litres of excreta that would be covering my legs, would make it difficult
for them to grab a hold of me"

But on ANOTHER occasion he said --

2) "I have personally never felt the terror of imminent death, yet I do not fear
death."

> IMO, the world would be better off if *every* human being an overpowering fear
> of death. There would then be no wars, as no one would fight in them; no
> crime, as the thought of being killed by police (never mind execution) would be
> a perefect deterrent; no risk-seeking adventurers being pulled off of mountains
> half-frozen.
>

The only thing that desi has 'no fear of,' is making a total fool of himself.
One can almost feel he takes great pleasure in 'making a total fool of
himself.'

PV

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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le 02 Nov 2002 16:19:14 GMT, G EddieA95 <gedd...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
> >>desi -- afraid of death??... You better believe it.
>
> > So??? That only makes him a normal human being.
>
> Ho, ho, ho ... who wants to give odds for what LDB's rote, '48-timer'
> insult is going to be, in response to that ?
>
A simple quote of your own words, would be sufficient. Or will you
again try to DENY those words? You know quite well that you have
expressed an overpowering 'fear of death,' and in another post claimed
that 'death held no fear' for you. If you could only make up your mind.

> > IMO, the world would be better off if *every* human being an overpowering fear
> > of death. There would then be no wars, as no one would fight in them; no
> > crime, as the thought of being killed by police (never mind execution) would be
> > a perefect deterrent; no risk-seeking adventurers being pulled off of mountains
> > half-frozen.
>

> I think that it would be the other way around. Take away the fear of
> death, but the only problem is that this requires 'immortality', and that's
> not an option [1].
>

The inoperative word there is 'think,' desi... It's too bad that 'Eddie' didn't
ask about your propensity for microwaving cats for fun, profit and posting
of the innards of the microwave afterwards.

PV

>
> [1] thankfully !!

Vlad Drac

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0000, "Incubus" <inc...@river.styx>
wrote:

>I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman. I

Where is this site??

>had to wonder what kind of sicko Desi was for posting this and this was
>proving the dethies opinions about aboloshonists to be correct but then
>again i ask why i or we found these pictures so disturbing? Death happens
>every day and is a natural thing.

Well, it can be a natural thing. But because of the death penalty,
it's some times not. That is not to say that it isn't cool when death
occurs as a result of a penalty. But hey, we have to keep discussions
like these clean

> Is it because we bury our dead and never
>see what happens to them? is it because what lies beyond is unknown or is it
>something else?
>

Mainly it's because a funeral costs a lot of money

/'_/)
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:31:47 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:

>Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:26 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>> it wasn't an outburst Desi. it was a genuine question. Why do we fear the
>> dead? your father was right, they cannot hurt us or anyone else but why do
>> we still panic when we see a corpse. I have seen two dead in my life and i
>> don't wish to see anymore.
>
>Because it reminds us of our own mortality ? If you're terrified of death,
>as most people are, seeing a corpse is like a voice in your head reminding
>you that you'll be lying there one day. Those of us free of the fear of
>dying, do not share this phobia.

How was that again Deswaldo - "Those of us free of the fear of
dying, do not share this phobia." The discharge from YOUR alimentary
canal would indicate otherwise.

Deswaldo, what has happened to you?

David

JIGSAW1695

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Date: 11/3/2002 7:22 AM Eastern Standard Time
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< A lot snipped >


On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:31:47 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:

>Le Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:26 -0000, Incubus <inc...@river.styx> a écrit :
>
>{ snip }
>
>> it wasn't an outburst Desi. it was a genuine question. Why do we fear the
>> dead? your father was right, they cannot hurt us or anyone else but why do
>> we still panic when we see a corpse. I have seen two dead in my life and i
>> don't wish to see anymore.
>
>Because it reminds us of our own mortality ? If you're terrified of death,
>as most people are, seeing a corpse is like a voice in your head reminding
>you that you'll be lying there one day. Those of us free of the fear of
>dying, do not share this phobia.

How was that again Deswaldo - "Those of us free of the fear of
dying, do not share this phobia." The discharge from YOUR alimentary
canal would indicate otherwise.

Deswaldo, what has happened to you?

==============================

Not to worry Dave. It is a well know fact that Dezi goes thru these psychotic
breakdowns about once every four months. His "problem" usually starts off mild,
builds to a peak, then gradually returns to normal. The entire process usually
takes about three months before it recycles.

Though I must admit the period of psychosis is getting longer, and duration
of non-agitation is getting shorter. We all know that Dezi needs professional
help, but there is no point in giving it to him until he is ready to accept the
consequences of his behavior.

Jigsaw

dirtdog

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On 03 Nov 2002 14:48:45 GMT, jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

<snipped>


>
>Not to worry Dave. It is a well know fact that Dezi goes thru these psychotic
>breakdowns about once every four months. His "problem" usually starts off mild,
>builds to a peak, then gradually returns to normal. The entire process usually
>takes about three months before it recycles.
>
>Though I must admit the period of psychosis is getting longer, and duration
>of non-agitation is getting shorter. We all know that Dezi needs professional
>help, but there is no point in giving it to him until he is ready to accept the
>consequences of his behavior.
>
>Jigsaw

Turned your spell checker on today, Jiggy?

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> >
> >everyone has a fear of death, even Dis but other things overide that fear
> >
>
> Yup. That's why the fear needs to be made much, much stronger.

you can not nake fear stronger, well not without drugs anyway


Richard J

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Incubus wrote:
>
> "Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3DC281F8...@hotmail.com...
> > A Planet Visitor wrote:
> > >
> > > "Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3DC205CE...@hotmail.com...
> > > > Incubus wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead
> woman. I
> > > > > had to wonder what kind of sicko Desi was for posting this and this
> was
> > > > > proving the dethies opinions about aboloshonists to be correct but
> then
> > > > > again i ask why i or we found these pictures so disturbing? Death
> happens
> > > > > every day and is a natural thing. Is it because we bury our dead and

> never
> > > > > see what happens to them? is it because what lies beyond is unknown
> or is it
> > > > > something else?
> > > >
> Obi one has taught you well young jedi :-)
> >
> > Teflon

I had a couple of masters who taught hard lessons. I KNOW I have a very
dark side which is as evil and deadly as any. I've kept control of it
since I was a young man, but the base nature inherited from my ancestors
is always just below the surface. I suspect it is so with any human,
but I've had occasion to see mine at its worst. It isn't something I
care to display, I can tell you that.

Teflon

Richard J

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I don't think so, PV. I think Desmond, indeed all of us, has his dark
side. At times, that part of our all too human nature comes to the
surface. Sometimes we use it to bait others just as Desmond baits you.
I would think, however, after a while you would tire of the game and
stop rising to the bait. Apparently, you never do and time after time
keep getting hooked by his trolls. It's happened so often, that if you
were a species of fish, you would now be endangered or extinct because
you cannot keep from biting, and the fisherman will not stop fishing.

Teflon

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnas9u0e.5sb.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:18:55 +0000


>
>Le Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:34:58 +0100, Vlad Drac <pat...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
>>>I few days ago Desi posted an url to a site with pictures of a dead woman.
>I
>

>> Where is this site??
>
>Just for you, Vlad ...
>
>url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/blonde.html
>
>... and ...
>
>url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/burnbundyburn.html


>
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:22:40 +0000

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A Planet Visitor

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"Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3DC557C0...@hotmail.com...
But when NO ONE speaks out... what are we left with?

PV

Cerberus

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> On 03 Nov 2002 14:48:45 GMT, jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
>
> <snipped>
> >
> >Not to worry Dave. It is a well know fact that Dezi goes thru these
psychotic
> >breakdowns about once every four months. His "problem" usually starts off
mild,
> >builds to a peak, then gradually returns to normal. The entire process
usually
> >takes about three months before it recycles.
> >
> >Though I must admit the period of psychosis is getting longer, and
duration
> >of non-agitation is getting shorter. We all know that Dezi needs
professional
> >help, but there is no point in giving it to him until he is ready to
accept the
> >consequences of his behavior.
> >
> >Jigsaw
>
> Turned your spell checker on today, Jiggy?
>
I think I mentioned in another thread recently about my suspicions about
Jigsaw. I am certain that there is more than one entity (be they physical or
spiritual) contained in the Jiggy persona. My investigations continue.

WooF w00f WooF

Richard J

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A Planet Visitor wrote:
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> "Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3DC557C0...@hotmail.com...
> > A Planet Visitor wrote:
>
<snip>

> > > Some more than others. Certainly we cannot compare a murderer with
> > > an ordinary citizen. No more than we can compare desi with an
> > > ordinary human. desi has a much darker side than ANY poster here.
> > > Not since the departure of joe1orbit, has a poster here so reveled in
> > > tragedy, and death. Clearly, his posts of those 'dead and decaying'
> > > bodies was not 'making a statement,' but doing a jig in the graveyard.
> > > Since not a word accompanied those pictures. As he has done so
> > > often when any tragedy strikes.
> > >
> > > As I pointed out... I was not the only one who found a very unhealthy
> > > pathological drive behind desi posting those decayed bodies. And
> > > I clearly recognized (along with others), that he was giggling hysterically
> > > when he posted that link.
> > >
> > > PV
> >
> >
> > I don't think so, PV. I think Desmond, indeed all of us, has his dark
> > side. At times, that part of our all too human nature comes to the
> > surface. Sometimes we use it to bait others just as Desmond baits you.
> > I would think, however, after a while you would tire of the game and
> > stop rising to the bait. Apparently, you never do and time after time
> > keep getting hooked by his trolls. It's happened so often, that if you
> > were a species of fish, you would now be endangered or extinct because
> > you cannot keep from biting, and the fisherman will not stop fishing.
> >
> > Teflon
> >
> But when NO ONE speaks out... what are we left with?
>
> PV

Saved bandwidth

Teflon

Eric

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>
>> Where is this site??
>
>Just for you, Vlad ...

We could be best friends desi because our different opinions on the
death penalty do not prevent us from being friendly, civilised and
helpful when exchanging death related sites

The rest of you fuckers could take us as an example. With people like
us, there wouldn't be a palestinian conflict!

JIGSAW1695

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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Eric no...@none.es
>Date: 11/4/2002 6:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>
>
>>
>>> Where is this site??
>>
>>Just for you, Vlad ...
>
>We could be best friends desi because our different opinions on the
>death penalty do not prevent us from being friendly, civilised and
>helpful when exchanging death related sites
>
>The rest of you fuckers could take us as an example. With people like
>us, there wouldn't be a palestinian conflict!
===============================

Right on, Brother!!! Right On!

We stand by your side as you condemn the capitalist running dogs that seek to
impose their will on the freedom loving people of world.

Let us rise up and throw of the chains of oppression.


All Power to the Proletariat


Jigsaw

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnascv0l.221.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead

>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:54:29 +0000


>
>Le Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:45:47 -0600, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
>>> > It's happened so often, that if you were a species of fish, you would
>now
>>> > be endangered or extinct because you cannot keep from biting, and the
>>> > fisherman will not stop fishing.
>

>>> But when NO ONE speaks out... what are we left with?
>

>> Saved bandwidth
>
>*chortle*


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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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"Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3DC67A0B...@hotmail.com...

And this is important to you... because??? I don't think desi is 'baiting'
me, when he masturbates about the attack on a Moscow McDonald's,
or finds the collision of two aircraft off the coast of California 'funny,' or
'jokes' about 9-11, placing a (sic) after every mention of it... Almost
3,000 humans dead... and he find something to 'giggle' about. I think
he is 'baiting' all rational humans.

Further, he no longer hides his racism, and IMHO, has insulted you
with his words that "I fear that retentionists like Richard really believe that
abolitionists want no punishments at all, for criminals. " While then coming
out some moments later with the words that "I personally shrink from the
entire doctrine of 'punishment' as a tool of crime prevention." You may not
find an insult in there, but perhaps your skin is thicker than mine. Some
other examples of his irrational comments were his claim that he is 'for'
life imprisonment, followed shortly by his claim that he is 'against' life
imprisonment. And the statement that 'abolitionists do not need to 'prove'
that the DP does not deter."

IMHO... pointing out these glaring flaws in desi's argument, and the
cancerous words he has directed against ALL retentionists... which includes
you BTW....is well worth the bandwidth taken. Since I find most of his posts
insult reason, and demand recognition that they do. In fact, if you are aware of my
postings for the past 10 days, I have expressly listed a total of 126 of his posts,
that I DID NOT respond to (posts that in the past I WOULD HAVE responded to),
which contained nothing but more of his 'mindless drivel.' In effect, I have
'saved' the bandwidth of this group 117 posts of mine which would have
remarked on his 'mindless drivel' and 'saved' the certainty that desi's ego trip would
have demanded that he provided 117 MORE posts containing nothing but
more of his 'mindless drivel.' Perhaps it is desi who should concern himself
with 'saved bandwidth.' Of course, with his claim that this is 'his group,'
apparently he need not concern himself with bandwidth.

PV

>
> Teflon
>

Richard J

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It really is not important to me, PV. I'm not the one being played like
a fish.

I don't think desi is 'baiting'
> me, when he masturbates about the attack on a Moscow McDonald's,
> or finds the collision of two aircraft off the coast of California 'funny,' or
> 'jokes' about 9-11, placing a (sic) after every mention of it... Almost
> 3,000 humans dead... and he find something to 'giggle' about. I think
> he is 'baiting' all rational humans.
>
> Further, he no longer hides his racism, and IMHO, has insulted you
> with his words that "I fear that retentionists like Richard really believe that
> abolitionists want no punishments at all, for criminals.

That's not insulting, merely troll. In a way, he's correct. I feel
some abolitionist are so liberal they think a spank on the wrist and a
couple of years of counseling will solve any criminal's problems and
turn him into a model citizen."

While then coming
> out some moments later with the words that "I personally shrink from the
> entire doctrine of 'punishment' as a tool of crime prevention." You may not
> find an insult in there, but perhaps your skin is thicker than mine.

When such contradictory statements are made, they only reinforce what I
said. Why should I be angry at someone confirming what I have so often
stated?


Some
> other examples of his irrational comments were his claim that he is 'for'
> life imprisonment, followed shortly by his claim that he is 'against' life
> imprisonment. And the statement that 'abolitionists do not need to 'prove'
> that the DP does not deter."

They don't, and most rational people would agree that deterrent is not a
major factor in the death penalty. If it were, the murder rate should
have dropped to near zero by now instead of being as high as it is. I
find no problem with that statement because I find that the delay
between the crime and the punishment is so extended, any deterrent
effect is minimal. That might not have been true when we used public
executions on the courthouse square a week following trial, but IMO, it
is today.

>
> IMHO... pointing out these glaring flaws in desi's argument, and the
> cancerous words he has directed against ALL retentionists... which includes
> you BTW....is well worth the bandwidth taken. Since I find most of his posts
> insult reason, and demand recognition that they do. In fact, if you are aware of my
> postings for the past 10 days, I have expressly listed a total of 126 of his posts,
> that I DID NOT respond to (posts that in the past I WOULD HAVE responded to),
> which contained nothing but more of his 'mindless drivel.' In effect, I have
> 'saved' the bandwidth of this group 117 posts of mine which would have
> remarked on his 'mindless drivel' and 'saved' the certainty that desi's ego trip would
> have demanded that he provided 117 MORE posts containing nothing but
> more of his 'mindless drivel.' Perhaps it is desi who should concern himself
> with 'saved bandwidth.' Of course, with his claim that this is 'his group,'
> apparently he need not concern himself with bandwidth.
>
>
>
> PV


PV, It matters little to me if you post 200 times per day. If I grow
weary of seeing too many headers from someone, I'll just plonk them (you
included) and let it be done. I have some filtered already, and one or
two more will not make any difference.

Teflon

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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In article <slrnasenee.6tv.p...@lievre.voute.net>,
pasdespa...@zeouane.org wrote:

> Le Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:05:58 +0100, Eric <no...@none.es> a écrit :
>
> >>> Where is this site??
>
> >>Just for you, Vlad ...
>
> > We could be best friends desi because our different opinions on the
> > death penalty do not prevent us from being friendly, civilised and
> > helpful when exchanging death related sites
>

> Who the fuck are you ?
>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.109.233.38
>
> Oh, Jesus ...

Vlad's real name is _Eric_?????

Do we call him the 'alf a bee?

Mr Q. Z. D.
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Eric

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>
>Vlad's real name is _Eric_?????
>
>Do we call him the 'alf a bee?
>
I prefer asshole
or death anorak!

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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In article <slrnasenee.6tv.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
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>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:57:34 +0000


>
>Le Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:05:58 +0100, Eric <no...@none.es> a écrit :
>
>>>> Where is this site??
>
>>>Just for you, Vlad ...
>
>> We could be best friends desi because our different opinions on the
>> death penalty do not prevent us from being friendly, civilised and
>> helpful when exchanging death related sites
>
>Who the fuck are you ?
>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.109.233.38
>
>Oh, Jesus ...
>

>{ snip }


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In article <slrnasfaif.9oi.p...@lievre.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: why do we fear the dead
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:23:59 +0000
>
>Le Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:11:14 -0600, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
>{ snip LDB being literally _kicked up and down_ the newsgroup }


>
>> PV, It matters little to me if you post 200 times per day. If I grow
>> weary of seeing too many headers from someone, I'll just plonk them (you
>> included) and let it be done. I have some filtered already, and one or
>> two more will not make any difference.
>

>ROTFLMAO ! Boy, Richard, that was _brutal_ !! Go easy on the lad, he's
>not having it easy of late ...

>
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"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
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> Le Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:11:14 -0600, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip LDB being literally _kicked up and down_ the newsgroup }
>
> > PV, It matters little to me if you post 200 times per day. If I grow
> > weary of seeing too many headers from someone, I'll just plonk them (you
> > included) and let it be done. I have some filtered already, and one or
> > two more will not make any difference.
>
> ROTFLMAO ! Boy, Richard, that was _brutal_ !! Go easy on the lad, he's
> not having it easy of late ...
>
ROTFLMAO, indeed. Only you, desi, could have someone call you
a troll; remark that it is a waste of bandwidth to respond to you;
recognize that you make contradictory statements, which reinforce
his confirmation of you being a troll; and then make it appear you have
achieved some sort of victory. Clearly, what Richard is saying is
that 'desi is a waste of time.' I certainly agree that you are such a
waste of time, since I recognize that your evil is not something I
can CHANGE. The difference between Richard and me is that I
feel you should be UNMASKED... while he feels you are not worth
the effort.

PV

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Richard J

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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
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> Le Wed, 06 Nov 2002 04:17:39 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
>
> { snip }

>
> >> ROTFLMAO ! Boy, Richard, that was _brutal_ !! Go easy on the lad, he's
> >> not having it easy of late ...
>
> > ROTFLMAO, indeed. Only you, desi, could have someone call you
> > a troll; remark that it is a waste of bandwidth to respond to you;
> > recognize that you make contradictory statements, which reinforce
> > his confirmation of you being a troll; and then make it appear you have
> > achieved some sort of victory.
>
> LOL ... right on schedule. One could almost set one's watch by LDB's
> cries of 'How high, Master ?' as he tries to stop the point in the top
> of his head, jamming in the ceiling !
>
> Only LDB could pull yet another Saddam Hussein Special, declaring
> victory in the face of overwhelming defeat, having been referred to
> as a 'non-entity' even by a retentionist !
>
> { snip remaining claims not to take me 'seriously', whilst spending 98.6%
> of his online time, responding to me ... ho, ho, ho ... LDB's a fuckwit,
> 'alright' (sic) ... }

>
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> http: // www . zeouane . org

Play him carefully, Desmond. Remember, you have ultra light tackle and
it's very easy to part the line. Are you going to continue using "catch
and release", or will you fillet him this time?

Teflon

A Planet Visitor

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"Richard J" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3DC959BF...@hotmail.com...

If anyone is being 'played,' dear heart.... it is you. and desi's 'tackle'
is 'very light,' indeed.

PV

> Teflon
>

Richard J

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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
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> le Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:04:47 -0600, dans l'article <3DC959BF...@hotmail.com>, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a dit ...
>
> { snip }

>
> >> { snip remaining claims not to take me 'seriously', whilst spending 98.6%
> >> of his online time, responding to me ... ho, ho, ho ... LDB's a fuckwit,
> >> 'alright' (sic) ... }
>
> > Play him carefully, Desmond. Remember, you have ultra light tackle and
> > it's very easy to part the line. Are you going to continue using "catch
> > and release", or will you fillet him this time?
>
> LOL ... so you're 'a monster of evil', too, Richard ? :-)

>
> --
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> desmond @ zeouane.org |BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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I'm a trout fisherman. Pike, trout, walleye, perch, and char (brook
trout). I enjoy using ultra light tackle for fishing. I'd say 6 pound
line would do quite nicely for PV. I've caught up to 48" Northern pike
on such line with a 7.5' ultra light walleye rod, and I don't figure he
pulls any harder while having few less teeth than the pike. He's
probably hell to net, however.

Teflon

Richard J

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I defer to your superior knowledge of other men's "tackle, PV.

Teflon

Richard J

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> le Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:03:38 GMT, dans l'article <uAey9.240829$S8.44...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
> { snip }

>
> >> Play him carefully, Desmond. Remember, you have ultra light tackle and
> >> it's very easy to part the line. Are you going to continue using "catch
> >> and release", or will you fillet him this time?
>
> > If anyone is being 'played,' dear heart.... it is you. and desi's 'tackle'
> > is 'very light,' indeed.
>
> I'd give that particular hissy, foot-stamping fit, an '8.5' ... ROTFLMAO !

>
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I doubt at best it actually equals a 3.5 Desmond.

Teflon

JIGSAW1695

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Teflon
===============================

Here in Florida we have name for a fish that size. We call it bait.

Richard J

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The problem is that most of your really big fish, like barracuda and
tarpon, or the good fighters, like bonefish, are not good to eat.

Teflon

JIGSAW1695

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Teflon
==============================

Think Grouper.
Think Dolphin.
Think shark.
Also barracuda under three feet long are edible. But they are mean little
fuckers and you to let them run aways before you set the hook.

Also, you can go to any Florida beach and try to catch the elusive Florida
Beach Bunny. They come in a variety of shapes age, sizes and are excellent to
eat when properly prepaired.


Jigsaw : )

Dr. Dolly Coughlan

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:05:45 +0000
>
>le Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:49:18 -0600, dans l'article
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>
>{ snip }
>


>>> If anyone is being 'played,' dear heart.... it is you. and desi's
>'tackle'
>>> is 'very light,' indeed.
>

>> I defer to your superior knowledge of other men's "tackle, PV.
>

>*snort!*


>
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>{ snip }
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>>> LOL ... so you're 'a monster of evil', too, Richard ? :-)
>

>> I'm a trout fisherman.
>

>LOL ... fucking _classic_ rejoinder !
>
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>>> Play him carefully, Desmond. Remember, you have ultra light tackle and
>>> it's very easy to part the line. Are you going to continue using "catch
>>> and release", or will you fillet him this time?
>

>> If anyone is being 'played,' dear heart.... it is you. and desi's 'tackle'
>> is 'very light,' indeed.
>

>I'd give that particular hissy, foot-stamping fit, an '8.5' ... ROTFLMAO !
>

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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:16:29 +0000


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><3DC959BF...@hotmail.com>, Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>


>>> { snip remaining claims not to take me 'seriously', whilst spending 98.6%
>>> of his online time, responding to me ... ho, ho, ho ... LDB's a fuckwit,
>>> 'alright' (sic) ... }
>

>> Play him carefully, Desmond. Remember, you have ultra light tackle and
>> it's very easy to part the line. Are you going to continue using "catch
>> and release", or will you fillet him this time?
>

>LOL ... so you're 'a monster of evil', too, Richard ? :-)
>

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>'s
>>> not having it easy of late ...
>
>> ROTFLMAO, indeed. Only you, desi, could have someone call you
>> a troll; remark that it is a waste of bandwidth to respond to you;
>> recognize that you make contradictory statements, which reinforce
>> his confirmation of you being a troll; and then make it appear you have

>> achieved some sort of victory.=20=20


>
>LOL ... right on schedule. One could almost set one's watch by LDB's
>cries of 'How high, Master ?' as he tries to stop the point in the top
>of his head, jamming in the ceiling !
>

>Only LDB could pull yet another Saddam Hussein Special, declaring=20


>victory in the face of overwhelming defeat, having been referred to
>as a 'non-entity' even by a retentionist !
>

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Grouper, good eating I admit.

> Think Dolphin.

Dorado, decent.

> Think shark.

OK, but not my favorite. I prefer Wahoo and cobia

> Also barracuda under three feet long are edible. But they are mean little
> fuckers and you to let them run aways before you set the hook.

Play them sort of like pike. Allow them to stop their initial run prior
to setting the hook, right?

>
> Also, you can go to any Florida beach and try to catch the elusive Florida
> Beach Bunny. They come in a variety of shapes age, sizes and are excellent to
> eat when properly prepaired.
>
> Jigsaw : )

I thought eating them WAS a major part of the preparation.

Teflon

JIGSAW1695

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> Think Dolphin.

Dorado, decent.

> Think shark.

===============================

The problem isnt in hooking them (well, maybe the first time or two) the
problem is getting them into the boat after you gaff them. They have this habit
of looking dead, then the flip up and they start snapping. Sometimes they get
lucky.


JIGSAW1695

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> Think Dolphin.

Dorado, decent.

> Think shark.

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LOL....good one!!!

Richard J

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That's the thing about salt water fishing. Just about verything you
catch has the ability to slice, stab or bite you.

Peter Morris

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"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Dezi, my lad, you are reported to have a degree in literature, and should
> therefore know how to write clearly.
>
> Unfortunatly, you did failed in this particular case.

I don't suppose it would be worthwhile explaining the concept of 'irony'
to you, would it?

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