In Dallas County, 21 children killed in 2001
Earl Evleth
--
It would appear that Yates is not the only problem with respect
to children murders in Texas. in fact, the first day of a child`s
life is the most dangerous one in the USA.
Earl
********
Two Dead In Family Shooting Incident
Gonzales was transported to Baylor Medical Center, where he was pronounced
dead. Fuenk says Anguiano was taken to Parkland Hospital in critical
condition and died at 1:34 p-m yesterday. Police say the shooting happened
at the home of the girl's aunt, who called 9-1-1 around 6:30 a-m. Police
believe Anguiano had spent the night with her aunt. Police still were
investigating the shooting to determine a motive. The incident follows one
of the deadliest years for children in Dallas County. In 2001, 21 children
were victims of homicides, with most dying at the hand of a parent or
caregiver
John Rennie
"Earl Evleth" <dev...@noos.fr> wrote in message
news:3c9f3294$0$26977$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net...
>
> --
>
> It would appear that Yates is not the only problem with respect
> to children murders in Texas. in fact, the first day of a child`s
> life is the most dangerous one in the USA.
>
> Earl
> ********
>
As it is for any child born anywhere. What are the corresponding figures
for Paris, Earl?
Earl Evleth
Dans l'article <Yf2o8.2180$vT5.4...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, "John
Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a écrit :
> As it is for any child born anywhere. What are the corresponding figures
> for Paris, Earl?
No idea. Pure infant mortality rates are lower all over Europe than in the
USA, but that is due to social neglect of the underclasses in America. What
the real infant homicide rate is I don`t know. We follow daily the various
dramas of this type since they appear in certain newspapers.
I will look around.
Earl
Earl Evleth
Dans l'article <slrnaa1l49.bja.p...@tortue.voute.net>, Desmond
Coughlan <pasdespa...@noos.fr> a écrit :
> If my memory serves me correctly (and I shall dig out the figures when I
> have more time), the United States currently has one of the highest rates
> of child mortality in the 'West'. France's rate is lower, but higher than
> the UK.
The World Health Organization has a web site, perhaps it is a time to visit
it.
The 1996 figures are 0.5/1,000 for France, 0.6 for UK and 0.8 for the USA
in the OECD figures. Other tables will report these to two or three figure
accuracy. The US is a strange place, even Manhatten Island. The infant
mortality rates are the lowest in the Nation around Park Avenue and 70th
on the East Side. They double by the time one gets into the Bronx or merely
moves up the island around 130th. I will let you guess which are has
largely a white population, the other mixed Hispanic and Black.
Earl
A Planet Visitor
"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
news:slrnaa1l49.bja.p...@tortue.voute.net...
> Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:29:55 -0000, John Rennie <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a
écrit :
>
> >> It would appear that Yates is not the only problem with respect
> >> to children murders in Texas. in fact, the first day of a child`s
> >> life is the most dangerous one in the USA.
>
> > for Paris, Earl?
>
> have more time), the United States currently has one of the highest rates
> of child mortality in the 'West'. France's rate is lower, but higher than
> the UK.
>
It you are speaking of 'infant mortality rates,' they are
very easy to find. See ---
http://www.bartleby.com/151/a28.html
But, I sure, if we waited for YOU to 'dig out the figures'
they would be sure to be distorted. The 'infant mortality' rate
(having nothing to do with the 'children murder rate') in
France is less than that of both The U.K. and the U.S.
As to the 'murder victim' rate, in 1999 there were 205
cases of murder of victims in the U.S. under the age of 1,
from the FBI Uniform Crime Report Data for 1999. Now
dig up your data and provide a source. And remember
that 'mercy killings' of Scottish babies born in France
still count against the total 'murder' numbers.
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |MORON #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:02:28 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> >> >> It would appear that Yates is not the only problem with respect
> >> >> to children murders in Texas. in fact, the first day of a child`s
> >> >> life is the most dangerous one in the USA.
>
> >> > As it is for any child born anywhere. What are the corresponding figures
> >> > for Paris, Earl?
>
> >> If my memory serves me correctly (and I shall dig out the figures when I
> >> have more time), the United States currently has one of the highest rates
> >> of child mortality in the 'West'. France's rate is lower, but higher than
> >> the UK.
>
> > One wonders what you even MEAN with 'child mortality.'
> > It you are speaking of 'infant mortality rates,' they are
> > very easy to find. See ---
> > http://www.bartleby.com/151/a28.html
>
>
> By Golly, Martha !!! A factual post from Jedro the Jester !!!
>
> I can't decide whether my good mood at the moment, Jed., is due to your
> posting an article without a puerile (and easily swatted-down) insult in
> it, or the fact that I finally got my bike's front wheel off the ground in
> a 120 mph-wheelie this afternoon, or the fact that I'm listening to Nanci
> Griffith as I write these words, or the fact that the most beautiful woman
> in the known universe is sitting watching television barely two metres
> from me, wearing a wedding ring that I bought her, or ...
>
When someone portrays themselves as surrounded by
beauty in a faceless environment, one wonders as to the
truth of that claim... Certainly nothing that YOU
possess (I've SEEN your picture) would demonstrate that
any woman not having a hunchback, and a club foot
would be interested in you. Baring the fact that 'Esmeralda'
was simply a flight of fantasy, I can well imagine that your
wife 'barks' at night, if she somehow stooped so low as
to marry you. I mean... HOW DESPERATE must she
have been???
> Well, anyway, you're a twat.
>
Not to mention the fact that 'infant mortality' has NOTHING
to do with this thread, which is 'child homicide,' I get the
idea that you had no plan at all to provide any MEANINGFUL
statistical number of child murders in France, as I did for
the U.S. So, as usual... it's ALL smoke and mirrors on
your part. So much for 'debate.'
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |DESPERATE SHIT #1
John Rennie
It was you, as usual, who caused the mixup on this thread with a subject
line and opening paragraph relating to child homicides and then making the
unexceptional statement about the first day of a child's life being the most
dangerous which could only relate to infant mortality not homicide. When
starting a thread it is best is to stick to one subject.
enigmacat
wrote:
With all due respect, Earl---and i do respect you in many ways---i
find that your lurid tales of dead children and babies being murdered
in horrible ways by their parents make me cry my eyes out. i realize i
could just not read those stories but i never know how terrible they
get until it's too late.
When you post articles about child murders, could you please spoiler
them? i realize this is asking a lot, but there's enough terrible news
in the world these days without getting our hearts ripped out of our
chests with awful information about little kids like my beloved little
niece, Laura.
sincerely,
jane
JIGSAW1695
From: nothg...@wwdc.com (enigmacat)
Date: 3/26/2002 4:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <3ca11332...@news.lon.imag.net>
sincerely,
jane
==============================
I got to side with Earl on this one Jane. Surpressing information in a criminal
case because it is unpleasent is definatly not the corrrect thing to do.
The supression keeps the horror of the reality of child abuse from the public
who does not want to be reminded that such events occur. In doing so, it forces
the crime into the background and abuses the child a second time.
And it is a sad fact that the system itself hurts the abused child while trying
to protect it from harm.
Jigsaw
Dan Cutrer
Being the token representative of Beeg Dee hereabouts, and having been here
thirty years or so, it was an unusually rough year ... everybody looking
for somebody else to blame. Child Protective Services, divorce judges,
police officers, you can usually find a target who shoulda', oughta ...
But, the bottom line is, every City/County/State in the USofA got it's
share of nuts, and Dallas simply had more than its normal ration in the past
year. On the way back home from an out of town trip I heard a newscast this
afternoon about an Oregon daddy who killed his two daughters ... while Mama
was out jogging or some such.
My daughter is now doing forensic work for a major major County, has
listened to my war stories, told me she thought sometimes I was making them
up, e.g., the guy who smashed his hands with a hammer 'cause God didn't want
him playing the drums. He'd never PLAYED the drums, but God was afraid he
might take 'em up ... she calls regularly to apologize, says their stories
top anything I've ever told her.
And I haven't even mentioned the Crime Lab Director who got called to the
Federal Courthouse EARLY one Saturday morning, seems the United States
District Judge stopped by his courtroom unexpectedly when he was supposed to
be out of town, discovered his new law clerk sitting up high in the Judge's
chair, wearing his robes, smoking a marijuana cigarette in open court ...
that was one of her stories!
It ain't just Dallas ... and unfortunately, nobody has a clue as to what the
solution might be.
JIGSAW1695
Date: 3/26/2002 7:11 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <xLao8.526$0j5.18...@twister2.starband.net>
============================
I know some of the stuff we see on the job is funny. To those of you who
consider us a bunch of morbid blood lovers, all I can say is that if you dont
maintain a sense of humor, the things you see will destroy you. Humor helps to
put things in their proper perspective.
Jigsaw
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
> I know some of the stuff we see on the job is funny. To those of you who
> consider us a bunch of morbid blood lovers, all I can say is that if you
> dont
> maintain a sense of humor, the things you see will destroy you. Humor
> helps to
> put things in their proper perspective.
Were you a Florida cop or did you simply join the other wrinklies who
retired there in order to escape arthritis and other cold-weather
ailments...?
Mr Q. Z. D.
--
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
"My parents always told me I could be what I wanted to be. ((o))
So I became a complete bastard." ((O))
JIGSAW1695
Date: 3/27/2002 5:22 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnaa3i8s.e54.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:42:27 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
<dia...@prometheus.humsoc.utas.edu.au> a écrit :
>> I know some of the stuff we see on the job is funny. To those of you who
>> consider us a bunch of morbid blood lovers, all I can say is that if you
>> dont
>> maintain a sense of humor, the things you see will destroy you. Humor
>> helps to
>> put things in their proper perspective.
> Were you a Florida cop or did you simply join the other wrinklies who
> retired there in order to escape arthritis and other cold-weather
> ailments...?
As he claims to have worked a case here ...
... we can assume that he was a Florida cop (if he was a cop at all).
--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
=======================
<YAWN>
St.George
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Yf2o8.2180$vT5.4...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net...
>
> "Earl Evleth" <dev...@noos.fr> wrote in message
> news:3c9f3294$0$26977$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net...
> >
> > --
> >
> > It would appear that Yates is not the only problem with respect
> > to children murders in Texas. in fact, the first day of a child`s
> > life is the most dangerous one in the USA.
> >
> > Earl
> > ********
> >
> snip
>
> As it is for any child born anywhere.
Indeed - we are never so close to death as in the first moments of life.
St.George
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote in message
news:Ud6o8.266207$Dl4.33...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
Indeed, but all the western countries have rates in the vicinity of 5 infant
deaths per 1,000 births
What caught my eye were the horrendous rates of around 100/1,000 births in
some of the third world nations - TWENTY times that in the west...
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <slrnaa4eum.f00.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le 27 Mar 2002 13:41:30 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>> As he claims to have worked a case here ...
>>
>> http://www.co.escambia.fl.us/
>>
>> ... we can assume that he was a Florida cop (if he was a cop at all).
> <YAWN>
What's wrong, Jigsaw ? Don't you like it when your lies come back to
haunt you ?
--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
===============================
Its not a lie Dezi. One axiom of life is never tell a lie that can be refuted
by a little evidence. This is a lesson you might do well to learn.
In Veritas
Jigaw
A Planet Visitor
> Le Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:12:51 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> I can't decide whether my good mood at the moment, Jed., is due to your
> >> posting an article without a puerile (and easily swatted-down) insult in
> >> it, or the fact that I finally got my bike's front wheel off the ground in
> >> a 120 mph-wheelie this afternoon, or the fact that I'm listening to Nanci
> >> Griffith as I write these words, or the fact that the most beautiful woman
> >> in the known universe is sitting watching television barely two metres
> >> from me, wearing a wedding ring that I bought her, or ...
>
> > When someone portrays themselves as surrounded by
> > beauty in a faceless environment, one wonders as to the
> > truth of that claim...
Certainly nothing that YOU possess (I've SEEN your picture)
would demonstrate that any woman not having a hunchback,
and a club foot would be interested in you. Baring the fact
that 'Esmeralda' was simply a flight of fantasy, I can well
imagine that your wife 'barks' at night, if she somehow
stooped so low as to marry you. I mean... HOW DESPERATE
must she have been???
> ... whilst the person who is indeed blessed, couldn't give a **** whether
> a bitter and tired old ponytailed hic from Florida, believes him or not.
>
An honest heart is the 'first blessing.' Are you being HONEST?
Have you EVER been honest? Even to yourself? Nonetheless,
it seems I've stuck a raw nerve. One wonders how close to
home my comment actually was. Does she ACTUALLY
'bark' at the moon at night?
> { snip _ad homina_ }
Let's see -- THIS is what you claim is _ad homina_ that you
snipped --
"Not to mention the fact that 'infant mortality' has NOTHING
to do with this thread, which is 'child homicide,' I get the
idea that you had no plan at all to provide any MEANINGFUL
statistical number of child murders in France, as I did for
the U.S. So, as usual... it's ALL smoke and mirrors on
your part. So much for 'debate.'
Now, more directly to the THREAD. What the hell are you
even talking about?? You confused 'child homicides' with
'infant mortality' and then began a personal posting announcing
some hebephrenic refrain that "I finally got my bike's front wheel
off the ground in a 120 mph-wheelie this afternoon," "listening
to Nanci Griffith," and that 'Dolly' is sitting near to you,
wearing a wedding ring. When will you outgrow your
this behavior? And why don't you save that for your
'Schwinn' newsgroup, since clearly NO ONE here gives a shit..
And as I said --- So much for 'debate.'
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |DIPSHIT #1
JIGSAW1695
<< snip >>>
I can't decide whether my good mood at the moment, Jed., is due to your
posting an article without a puerile (and easily swatted-down) insult in
> >> it, or the fact that I finally got my bike's front wheel off the ground in
a 120 mph-wheelie this afternoon..... <snipped>
==============================
Dezi I hope for the sake of decency that you have enough insurance to see that
your widowed wife (if you actually have a wife - but that is neither here nor
there) is taken care of upon your Death by Motorcycle.
Anyone who trys to do more than a couple of over-a-hundred-MPH-wheelies in one
lifetime is playing the odds the hard way.
Trust me on this Dezi. This is not a smart thing to do because more often than
not you do not die in the accident. You wind up living a very fulfilling life
as a veggie.
And dont say "it cant happen to me"... because frankly Dezi, thats what they
all said before the big boom came.
Jigsaw
Earl Evleth
Dans l'article <20020326195834...@mb-ft.aol.com>,
jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) a écrit :
> I got to side with Earl on this one Jane. Surpressing information in a
criminal
> case because it is unpleasent is definatly not the corrrect thing to do.
>
> The supression keeps the horror of the reality of child abuse from the public
> who does not want to be reminded that such events occur. In doing so, it
forces
> the crime into the background and abuses the child a second time.
>
> And it is a sad fact that the system itself hurts the abused child while
trying
> to protect it from harm.
>
I read a book a number of years ago which dealt with both the issue of
parents killed by their children and children killed by their parents.
Good statistics are kept on parents getting killed, I roughly remember
a US rate of about 500 a year. A lot of these murders are done by kids
in the teens who have been abused on some manner and one day just
blow. "Kids" over 17 or so just leave and get away from the problem
so the "killers" are in the 12-16 range, usually boys. Some
specular murders have been committed for the parents money but
this in fact is rare, rage is less rare. True crime books prefer
the murder for money story line.
As for children getting killed, the statistics were hidden in the fact
that many child deaths were not classed as homicides. Abuse generated
injuries were covered up in such a way that the authorities
did not pursue the parents. This may be changing but the researcher
said that his estimate was that between 2000-5000 child homicides
occur each year which don`t do on the statistical books as homicides.
Minimally, it is a big hole in the homicide picture. Basically, we
don`t know. I went through the homicide tables and the number
killed below the age of 4 is a couple of hundred, the real figure
could be 10 times more.
Earl
John Rennie
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
> news:slrnaa4etj.f00.p...@tortue.voute.net...
snip
> Certainly nothing that YOU possess (I've SEEN your picture)
> would demonstrate that any woman not having a hunchback,
> and a club foot would be interested in you.
And, of course, we haven't seen your picture. Until
we have that pleasure, I suggest that you refrain
my making personal remarks about those of others.
Desmond may not look like Brad Pitt but his
portrait did not deserve the above slur.
Earl Evleth
Dans l'article <5KDo8.3417$Ko1.6...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "John
Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> a écrit :
>> Certainly nothing that YOU possess (I've SEEN your picture)
>> would demonstrate that any woman not having a hunchback,
>> and a club foot would be interested in you.
>
> And, of course, we haven't seen your picture. Until
> we have that pleasure, I suggest that you refrain
> my making personal remarks about those of others.
> Desmond may not look like Brad Pitt but his
> portrait did not deserve the above slur.
Actually, we have met Desmond face to face. It was
about a year ago, but I remember him as a handsome
young man. I believe he had recently acquired a motor
cycle and looked pretty smart. At 70, however, all the
young seem to appear good looking if not overstuffed.
But that is more an affliction of young Americans
than young Europeans. Even at 70 I still concentrate
on looking at the women, which is generally a
pleasant activity in Paris which has a very large
number of good looking ones. In the winter their
forms are hidden under layers of clothing but that
is now beginning to change as Spring arrives.
Earl
A Planet Visitor
Yeah...yeah...yeah... If the data don't fit... make up your
own. You well know the numbers, Earl. You just can't
stop trying to lie your way into gross exaggeration of those
numbers. Which researcher? What book????
How did you EVER become a 'scientist'???
PV
> Earl
>
>
>
A Planet Visitor
returning the favor. It's strange that you would comment
on my remark, yet ignore a remark that dezi made which
was ---
"It might have flown right over your pointy little
redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
I believe being called 'ugly,' after having presented a
picture of yourself (providing some basis on which to
form such an opinion), is a lesser insult than being
called a pedophile cock-sucker. Perhaps you'd be so
kind as to explain why you did NOT find it necessary to
comment on that, yet find it necessary to comment now?
Is it perhaps that dezi and you share the same philosophy?
Nonetheless, the comment was prompted by his absurd
conclusion that his wife is such a ravishing beauty, when
we all know that if dezi's real personality is anything like
his apparent personality here, all woman, other than the
most desperate, would be throwing rocks at him.
PV
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <slrnaa6lkb.hd3.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le 27 Mar 2002 23:48:50 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
{ snip 'cos I can't be bothered tidying up Jigsaw's ineptitude }
You made a claim that you worked a case in Escambia County, Jigsaw, and
despite extensive research by around a dozen posters to this newsgroup, no
such case occurred in Escambia County.
It was a lie, and you got caught out.
--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
==============================
Sorry Dez, but I still stick by my story.
John Rennie
"JIGSAW1695" <jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020328142305...@mb-ms.aol.com...
That's great, Jiggy. Now cany nou recount the facts
again including the case number so we can look it up for ourselves in the
Escambia court records?
John Rennie
snip
Sorry Dez, but I still stick by my story.
>
> That's great, Jiggy. Now cany nou recount the facts
> again including the case number so we can look it up for ourselves in the
> Escambia court records?
>
>
All I need is the case number and the first and last names.
Then I shall be able to look up the case in the following record just as
long it as it happened after 1980, which I presume from the correspondence
on this matter, it did.
Escambia County Florida Clerk of the Circuit Court
County Criminal / Misdemeanor Records Search
Case Number
Do not include dashes -
Last Name
First Name
Case Number or Last Name is Required
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <slrnaa73d2.hti.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le 28 Mar 2002 04:24:51 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
{ snip }
> Dezi I hope for the sake of decency that you have enough insurance to see
that
> your widowed wife (if you actually have a wife - but that is neither here nor
> there) is taken care of upon your Death by Motorcycle.
>
> Anyone who trys to do more than a couple of over-a-hundred-MPH-wheelies in
one
> lifetime is playing the odds the hard way.
Coming from someone who thinks a 1300 cc bike is a 'moped', Jigsaw, I
think I shall trust my own instincts on this one.
And like I say, I'm not afraid of death.
--
Desmond Coughlan
=========================
(Notice I left out the part of you signature that I usually include)
Dezi, I am serious about this. I know I bust your balls a lot about your
"vespa" but forget about this for a moment.
Im speaking from experience as a LEO. Doing wheelies at a hundren MPH Plus is
not a bright thing to do.
And you may not be afraid of death, but suppose you only break your neck with
paralysis from the neck down ..or from the waist down..and you dont need life
support?
On the other hand fool, if you want to keep doing it, why not go for a hundred
and twenty MPH Wheelie.
JIGSAW1695
Date: 3/28/2002 2:12 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <xyMo8.7726$gj7.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>
"John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:D5Lo8.6676$Ko1.1110070@news6-> >
snip
Sorry Dez, but I still stick by my story.
>
> That's great, Jiggy. Now cany nou recount the facts
> again including the case number so we can look it up for ourselves in the
> Escambia court records?
>
>
All I need is the case number and the first and last names.
Then I shall be able to look up the case in the following record just as
long it as it happened after 1980, which I presume from the correspondence
on this matter, it did.
Escambia County Florida Clerk of the Circuit Court
County Criminal / Misdemeanor Records Search
==============================
Indeed I can. However (And even I admitt it sounds lame) I wont. I told you my
reason for not giving you the information.
In case you have forgotten, I will tell you again. The information in the
report contains my real name which I do not choose to share with anyone as a
matter of privacy.
If you can find it, then very good....more power to you. But help you? Not on
this one...sorry.
Jigsaw
John Rennie
Hmm. Perhaps then you can relate the original post that gave rise
to all this distrust?
St.George
>
> "John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:D5Lo8.6676$Ko1.1110070@news6-> >
>
> snip
>
> Sorry Dez, but I still stick by my story.
> >
> > That's great, Jiggy. Now cany nou recount the facts
> > again including the case number so we can look it up for ourselves in
the
> > Escambia court records?
> >
> >
>
> All I need is the case number and the first and last names.
> Then I shall be able to look up the case in the following record just as
> long it as it happened after 1980, which I presume from the correspondence
> on this matter, it did.
The (alleged) name, IIRC, is one Bobbie Scott Johnson
I hope that has put the cat amongst the pigeons!
A Planet Visitor
> Subject: Re: In Dallas County, 21 children killed in 2001
> From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@noos.fr
> Date: 3/28/2002 9:38 AM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <slrnaa6lkb.hd3.p...@tortue.voute.net>
>
> Le 27 Mar 2002 23:48:50 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip 'cos I can't be bothered tidying up Jigsaw's ineptitude }
>
> You made a claim that you worked a case in Escambia County, Jigsaw, and
> despite extensive research by around a dozen posters to this newsgroup, no
> such case occurred in Escambia County.
>
> It was a lie, and you got caught out.
>
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
How many lies have YOU 'got caught out,' in?? I can see
some others questioning this.... BUT YOU???? Get real.
You're the biggest liar in this newsgroup... always have
been...always will be. You're in a class of your own, dezi,
when it comes to lies... a class of your own.
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le 27 Mar 2002 23:48:50 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>
> { snip 'cos I can't be bothered tidying up Jigsaw's ineptitude }
>
> You made a claim that you worked a case in Escambia County, Jigsaw, and
> despite extensive research by around a dozen posters to this newsgroup, no
> such case occurred in Escambia County.
>
> It was a lie, and you got caught out.
>
ROTFLMAO. The 'expert' in lies, claims by being so he
can detect those of others. Shall I 'count the ways'?
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |PEANUT BRAIN #1
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
With that helmet on him??? That helmet would make Winona Ryder look
like Frankenstein's monster. =)
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
pasdespa...@noos.fr wrote:
> Le Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:42:27 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
> <dia...@prometheus.humsoc.utas.edu.au> a écrit :
>
> >> I know some of the stuff we see on the job is funny. To those of you
> >> who
> >> consider us a bunch of morbid blood lovers, all I can say is that if
> >> you
> >> dont
> >> maintain a sense of humor, the things you see will destroy you. Humor
> >> helps to
> >> put things in their proper perspective.
>
> > Were you a Florida cop or did you simply join the other wrinklies who
> > retired there in order to escape arthritis and other cold-weather
> > ailments...?
>
> As he claims to have worked a case here ...
>
> http://www.co.escambia.fl.us/
>
> ... we can assume that he was a Florida cop (if he was a cop at all).
I believe him completely and unreservedly when he says that he's a
retired cop, all issues of a particular case in Escambia County aside.
John Rennie
"St.George" <god_save_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:a80arj$a33$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
No Bobbie Johnsons - the record only requires two names. Seven Robert
Johnsons - the most serious crime committed by any of these was Battery.
I note from a careful study of the records that Judges, Clerks of Court,
Bondmen, District Attorney's names are all recorded but NOT the names of
arresting officers. So, if Jiggy is reading this, it will be quite safe
for him to give further details as his name won't be mentioned. It was PV
who found this record:
http://www.clerk.co.escambia.fl.us/
and anybody can check and search for themselves.
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <7lNo8.7171$Ko1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>
=============================
I cant remember the details of what I said. In essence it was that I worked a
homicide case where the killer made a full confession to us, was found guilty
in court, the set free on an appeal that was of a technical nature.
Frankly I wish it would go away because im getting tired of defending my
actions whether they are beleive or not.
But I will tell obsessed indivduals such as Dezi that they are looking in the
wrong place. (Chew on that one for a while Dezi. You broke a cardinal rule of
arriving at false conclusions by making improper assumptions.)
Jigsaw
A Planet Visitor
will not provide further information in "Subject: Re: Future of
the death penalty in the United States" 2000/08/02.
You will find the beginning of the argument in the thread
"Subject: Re: Claims of Innocence after guilty verdict"
2000/01/03. Jigsaw's post # 13 in that thread.
I don't see why you need others to do your work for you,
nor why you and others are so obsessed with this case,
while dezi goes on to post the most obscene arguments
one can imagine, And NO ONE here from the abolitionist
side even PEEPS.
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:07:57 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> You made a claim that you worked a case in Escambia County, Jigsaw, and
> >> despite extensive research by around a dozen posters to this newsgroup, no
> >> such case occurred in Escambia County.
> >>
> >> It was a lie, and you got caught out.
>
>
> rather sad, altar-boy shagging prick.
>
Actually, an onymoron. Lying while claiming not to have
lied. The very argument is a lie.
But let's examine your PAST lies ---
1) "The dead cannot be honoured." That was one of
your greater ones. And the wiggling in that lie,
was hilarious to watch. A macabre dance of
deceit.
2) "Fact : the death penalty is wrong." Ummm....
One cannot state opinion as fact, without the implication
of a lie being perpetrated.
3) "The Lockerbie 'trial' was the final act in a huge
theatrical cover-up. There_was_ no bomb."
Sure there wasn't, dezi. It was that 'huge cover-up.'
4) "The Balkans are not in Europe, Shona." and
"neither Latvia nor Estonia forms part of Europe."
Right... and Switzerland is in Africa as well you
perhaps believe?
5) "Europe does not violate its citizens' human
rights." ROTFLMAO. It seems that one of your
Europeans is on trial right now for 'crimes against
humanity.'
6) "But Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and
in matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand
years." I guess you found 'morality' in the holocaust.
7) "'America' and 'The United States' are not synonyms"
8) "the truth is that Osamo bin-Laden had absolutely
nothing to do with the events of 11 September"
'the truth????' Shit, you wouldn't know the truth if
it smacked you in the face.
9) "In short, I think that Mr bin Laden, whilst he didn't
plan or carry out the attacks, knows who did."
10) "So does the Bush Administration. So does
Mossad."
11) " I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being
behind the attacks."
12) "Both the UK and France have constitutionally (in
France's case, anyway) protected speech."
But when "Le Grand Secret," was mentioned, you
did a huge double-take and commenced wiggling again.
13) When presented evidence of having created a
web page expressly devoted to my handle, in some
obsessive neurotic compulsion, See
http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/PV.gif
You lied that it's not a 'web page,' but instead insisted
it is only a 'gif.' And then you go on to create yet
ANOTHER -- See -
http://mapage.noos.fr/desmond/dp/jed.html
Certainly neurotic compulsion is right up there.
14) "Desmond does not fear death." Of course,
that's a BIG FAT LIE. Since dezi fully admits
he is scared shitless of death, having said that
when facing death -- "the litres of excreta that
would be covering my legs, would make it difficult
for them to grab a hold of me"
And then we have the ABSURDITIES which pass for lies ---
1) "If it's legal, it's moral, Jed."
2) "What is legal can be perfectly immoral." Somehow
those two statements represent some sort of a conflict.
And what you'd claim for 'irony,' others simply call
'stupidity.'
3) "President Mitterand's capacity to govern, was never in
doubt." Literally, ROTFLMAO. This presumes that
Mitterand was EVER capable of governing. We know that
to be false.
4) A rather delightful explanation of why you hide
your posts to AADP - Answer - because you hide ALL
your posts. Extraordinary.
5) posting to Jigsaw you remarked - "and send that
16-year-old niece of yours around to give me a
blowjob whenever I want one." Youe STATED
obsession with 'young girls' is positively frightening.
6) And here and there, where you keep repeating your
obscenity -- "It might have flown right over your pointy little
redneck head as said head was bobbing up and down over
Dwight-the-Altar-Boy-From-Tampa's crotch"
7) When John Rennie asked you directly "Theodore
Frank is about to be executed - you can set him free.
Do you?" You made what is perhaps the most simplistic,
yet frighteningly unaware one word comment we can
imagine --- You said -- "Yes"
8) When some murderers escaped from prison, you
remarked "Were the two sentenced to die ? If so, may
God guide them to the Mexican border." But,
unfortunately they did not escape to Mexico but DID
manage to murder again. Go figure. God???? Maybe.
Gee, dezi.. Lie!!!! shit... you're world-class, in that
department.
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |MENTALLY SICK LIAR #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 02:01:42 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo
<dia...@prometheus.humsoc.utas.edu.au> a écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > I believe him completely and unreservedly when he says that he's a
> > retired cop, all issues of a particular case in Escambia County aside.
>
>
Because you questioned if he was. It's simple. In the
absence of 'opposite man dirt,' you fill his shoes, and
everything that YOU say is assumed to be a lie, having
been caught in so many of them in the past.
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |CHIEF COOK AND LIAR #1
A Planet Visitor
back to 1984, which I believe is the time frame mentioned.
Nonetheless... memories fade and Johnson/Johnston is a
very common name, and Bobbie, Bobby, Bob, Robert,
Robbie are all common as well. Further, if the trial was
overturned, it is possible that through legal maneuvering,
it could be expunged from the data base. And of course,
it could have been overturned at a higher level than country
court records show. Of course, if Jigsaw says it is IN
those records, then it should be able to be found, but I
don't believe he's SAID it is in those records.
It's strange how obsessive some are, regarding this
meaningless point, while disregarding the most egregious
behavior we'll ever see in this group from dezi.
PV
A Planet Visitor
> Le Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:22:05 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip Jedro's backpedalling }
>
> Oops ...
>
Apparently dezi had his 'first' thought of the day, but forgot
it before he could commit it to memory.
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |FALLING FLAT #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:57:57 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> > When someone portrays themselves as surrounded by
> >> > beauty in a faceless environment, one wonders as to the
> >> > truth of that claim...
>
> > Repeating --
>
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |DIPSHIT #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:22:05 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > How did you EVER become a 'scientist'???
>
>
Through the circumstances of my birth. You should be
familiar as to how that works. I know that you've felt
it necessary to play the part of 'Uncle Tom,' in your
life. But that's YOUR excuse, not mine. You can do
your pitiful dance of death and self-flagellation... but
I'll have no part of it.
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |DP SUPPORTER #1
Earl Evleth
Dans l'article <a7t15l$6n6$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "St.George"
<god_save_...@my-deja.com> a écrit :
> Indeed - we are never so close to death as in the first moments of life.
Actually it occurs at the last moments of life. Birth holds some promise
of a future. At death, the issue is open for debate.
Earl
John Rennie
I am proceeding with this matter and will continue to do so until satisfied,
which at the moment I am not. I have satisfied myself that the records of
the Escambia Court do not include the names of arresting officers (which
would be a very silly thing to so include) and, therefore, if Jiggy has
either the case number or the correct name, he can give this information
without endangering himself or family. If however someone else finds the
name of an arresting officer on that record, I shall cease this tiresome
business immediately.
I have rarely disregarded Desmond's behaviour which I say, yet again,
brings down calumny on all abolitionists and abolition.
JIGSAW1695
Date: 3/29/2002 11:00 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnaa9es0.26i.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le 28 Mar 2002 22:26:38 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
{ snip }
Joking aside, Jigsaw, you do not 'bust [my] balls' about a Vespa, for only
a fool would consider it witty to claim that in the United States, 1300 cc
motorcycles are considered 'scooters'.
However, I do believe that your concern is genuine (strange as that may
seem), and I thank you.
--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
==============================
<Jigsaw: Warm and gushy> I have worked to many MC accidents where people died
because of stupidity.
There is a thing called a "death notification" where an officer is required to
go to the victims home and inform his loved ones of the death. I have only had
to do three of them in my career, but they affected me profoundly.
Besides, without you around, I would have to target St. George, and he is
turning mellow on us. That aint no fun.
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <slrnaa9f5n.26i.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le 29 Mar 2002 03:49:09 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
{ snip }
> Frankly I wish it would go away because im getting tired of defending my
> actions whether they are beleive or not.
One good term deserves another, Jiggy, and as you were watching out for
my ass (*shudder*) on my bike, let me tell you what I think of the affair.
I think you were a cop, and there is probably a good chance that you did
work on a case resembling the above. Your mistake was to try to use that
case to make a point, and (this is the important bit) to give false
details about that case.
As for not wanting your name to be known, I can understand that, too.
However, no one is suggesting that the details of the case be made public
here. A mutually agreed arbiter could be found, and he or she would look
into the case, and inform the group as to whether or not such a case
exists. I'd suggest Richard Jackson, or QZD, or John Rennie.
However, if my memory serves me correctly, Mitchell Holman already
suggested this a while back, and you refused. Why ?
{ snip }
--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
=============================
Because once you develop a set of survival rules that work, you dont break
them. You cant. They are to ingrained.
< Jigsaw now waxs philpsophocally>
Besides, this is AADP NG. Nothing personal against Mitch, (or anyone else for
that matter) but I personaly find it difficult to trust someone who is a
stranger. It is one thing to communicate thru cyber space. You can say things
that you would never dare say to a persons face. You can mask your own
insecurities and develop your own alternate persona if you so desire. I would
say that the majority of long term members on this NG are exactly what they say
they are, with some mild behavior modification for self gratification, not pure
meaness or intent to hurt someone.
Unfortunatly though, there a few insecure souls out there who see the net as a
means of trying to intentionally belittle someone who appears weaker then
them. It is a "feel good" thing for them and a means of compensation for their
own inadequacte self.
The next type is the dangerous one. He is the cyber staker who uses his guile
and personality to pursue his victims. Sometimes he actually meets his victims
and causes great harm,if not death. This type is few and far between, but he
exists. Because he is basicaly psychopathic in nature, he can indeed come off
as charming and interesting and therefore thrustworthy.
I dont know what it is like in Europe, but we have had several reported
instances where participants in chat groups were stalked and killed. This
includes young children as well as adults.
I have often wondered what would happen if two sociaopaths ended up
unintentionally stalking each other.
Would they recognize their own kind after sniffing at each like dogs? Would
they ultimatly destroy each other? Would they sense danger and back off? Or
would they band together for a common cause.
Jigsaw
John Rennie
.
> > Because once you develop a set of survival rules that work, you dont
break
> them. You cant. They are to ingrained.
>
> < Jigsaw now waxs philpsophocally>
waxes philosophically
>
> Besides, this is AADP NG. Nothing personal against Mitch, (or anyone else
for
> that matter) but I personaly find it difficult to trust someone who is a
> stranger.
However, as I keep on pointing out, the issue of trust
is not involved here. The court record of the case
will NOT reveal your name. There is no good reason
for you not to reveal the salient details such as the case
number unless, of course, you were economical with
the truth. It really doesn't matter if that is the case,
just as long as you acknowledge it.
JIGSAW1695
Date: 3/29/2002 12:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <hw4p8.14165$Ko1.2...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>
==============================
No, but it will lead to a document that does. It exists. I have a copy of it
stored somewhere.
Jigsaw
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:33:07 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > I don't see why you need others to do your work for you,
> > nor why you and others are so obsessed with this case,
> > while dezi goes on to post the most obscene arguments
> > one can imagine, And NO ONE here from the abolitionist
> > side even PEEPS.
>
>
Huh????? With you replying to this post, it's rather obvious
that YOU are the one feeling picked upon. The mirror..
you moron... look in the mirror.
and spank...spank...spank.
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |PLEASE DON'T PICK ON ME #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:49:21 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> >> > I believe him completely and unreservedly when he says that he's a
> >> > retired cop, all issues of a particular case in Escambia County aside.
>
> >> Why ?
>
> > Because you questioned if he was. It's simple. In the
> > absence of 'opposite man dirt,' you fill his shoes, and
> > everything that YOU say is assumed to be a lie, having
> > been caught in so many of them in the past.
>
PV
> desmond @ noos.fr |BONEHEAD #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:09:00 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> >> > How did you EVER become a 'scientist'???
>
> >> How did you ever become a perverted old Catholic ?
>
> > Through the circumstances of my birth. You should be
> > familiar as to how that works. I know that you've felt
> > it necessary to play the part of 'Uncle Tom,' in your
> > life. But that's YOUR excuse, not mine. You can do
> > your pitiful dance of death and self-flagellation... but
> > I'll have no part of it.
>
> newsgroup; does sound travel to the bottom of his ditch ?
I don't know... why don't you let us know when it hits you
on the head.
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |BOTTOM OF THE MORAL DITCH #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:33:07 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> >> Zero, because I haven't told any. Prove otherwise, or be exposed as a
> >> rather sad, altar-boy shagging prick.
>
> > Actually, an onymoron. Lying while claiming not to have
> > lied. The very argument is a lie.
>
> for chutzpah, Jedro, but ... bwaahaahahahahaa !!!!
I can ALWAYS tell when you become very flustered, dezi...
you begin the moose call to the unintelligent, hoping to gain
support from those of similar mental capacity. But I
notice that you convienently clipped all your lies that I
listed. So perhaps you'd like to examine them. And
present what you believe were 'lies' from me, so I
can examine them.
department. And obscenities... you make dirt look
at Mother Theresa. And he was previously the
yardstick whereby we measured ALL obscenity.
PV
> --
> Desmond Coughlan |WORLD-CLASS LIAR #1
A Planet Visitor
> Le Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:49:22 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@abcxyz.com> a
écrit :
>
> { snip }
>
> > It's strange how obsessive some are, regarding this
> > meaningless point, while disregarding the most egregious
> > behavior we'll ever see in this group from dezi.
>
> article that doesn't have my name in it. ROTFLMAO !!!
And today we find your obsession is also incapable of not posting
an article that doesn't have MY name in it. ROTFLMAO indeed.
And a spank...spank...spank for good measure.
PV
> Desmond Coughlan |OBSESSIVE #1
John Rennie
How will it do that?
John Rennie
>
> "Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
> news:slrnaa9f85.26i.p...@tortue.voute.net...
snip
> > 12) "Both the UK and France have constitutionally (in
> France's case, anyway) protected speech."
> But when "Le Grand Secret," was mentioned, you
> did a huge double-take and commenced wiggling again.
I am up-to-date on everthing else which, as usual,
I found entertainling but I am stumped re the above.
Care to clarify?
JIGSAW1695
Message-id: <05hp8.19232$gj7.3...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>
==========================
Its called "research" John.
John Rennie
You misunderstand me. How will the Escambia Court's records reveal the
existemce of your document? I read a number of these records closely and I
think your secret will be safe. (BTW Jiggy, I am not even handed in this
dispute, I am on your side - I really want you to clear
this matter out of the way and I think that you now have the chance to do
so.)
Rev. Don Kool
> In article <5KDo8.3417$Ko1.6...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "John
> Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote in message
>>news:VEvo8.2542$y26.5...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>>>"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
>>>news:slrnaa4etj.f00.p...@tortue.voute.net...
>>>
>>snip
>>
>>
>>
>>>Certainly nothing that YOU possess (I've SEEN your picture)
>>>would demonstrate that any woman not having a hunchback,
>>>and a club foot would be interested in you.
>>>
>>And, of course, we haven't seen your picture. Until
>>we have that pleasure, I suggest that you refrain
>>my making personal remarks about those of others.
>>Desmond may not look like Brad Pitt but his
>>portrait did not deserve the above slur.
>>
>
> With that helmet on him???
Helmet!! ROTFLOLASTD!!!! What a sissy!!
Yours in Christ,
Don
--
*********************** You a bounty hunter?
* Rev. Don McDonald * Man's gotta earn a living.
* Baltimore, MD * Dying ain't much of a living, boy.
*********************** "Outlaw Josey Wales"
A Planet Visitor
"Both the UK and France have constitutionally (in
France's case, anyway) protected speech."
Of course, that's WRONG. Because of the case of
the publication of the book "Le Grand Secret," being
BANNED in France. I then responded with --
"Not to get picky here, but France has very certain
restrictions on what may or may not be published.
For example, the book 'Le Grand Secret,' by Dr.
Claude Gubler, relating the medical problems of
Mitterand was totally banned from publication and
distribution within France, and penalties were provided
for those who held copies. Unfortunately for those
censors, the text was provided free on the Internet,
and two mushroomed up for every one that France
shut down. The first page of the Book contained an
explicit WARNING -- ATTENTION! Ce livre est interdit
en France! WARNING! This book is banned in France!"
Desmond did his usual 'dance of deceit' but was unable
to wiggle out of that one. You can find the entire
explanation at google --- Subject: Re: Re : IQ and the
DP - Another viewpoint Post 23 in the thread, from PV
Date: 2002-03-05 20:31:20 PST
PV
William Robert
>Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>
>> In article <5KDo8.3417$Ko1.6...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "John
>> Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote in message
>>>news:VEvo8.2542$y26.5...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>"Desmond Coughlan" <pasdespa...@noos.fr> wrote in message
>>>>news:slrnaa4etj.f00.p...@tortue.voute.net...
>>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Certainly nothing that YOU possess (I've SEEN your picture)
>>>>would demonstrate that any woman not having a hunchback,
>>>>and a club foot would be interested in you.
>>>>
>>>And, of course, we haven't seen your picture. Until
>>>we have that pleasure, I suggest that you refrain
>>>my making personal remarks about those of others.
>>>Desmond may not look like Brad Pitt but his
>>>portrait did not deserve the above slur.
>>>
>>
>> With that helmet on him???
>
>
> Helmet!! ROTFLOLASTD!!!! What a sissy!!
>
>
> Yours in Christ,
> Don
If not a helmet, then perhaps a paper bag needs to be over Desi's head?
Remember, a viable tourist industry is very important to the French.
William Robert
Rev. Don Kool
> "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>>John Rennie" <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@abcxyz.com> wrote...
>>>>>"DesiCoughlan" <des...@noos.fr> wrote...
[...snip..]
>>>With that helmet on him???
>> Helmet!! ROTFLOLASTD!!!! What a sissy!!
> If not a helmet, then perhaps a paper bag needs to be over Desi's head?
>
> Remember, a viable tourist industry is very important to the French.
Sad, but all too true. Anyone that has really ridden a real bike knows
that helmets are for sissy-marys.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
<old...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
> > With that helmet on him???
> Helmet!! ROTFLOLASTD!!!! What a sissy!!
We are all perfectly aware that there is nothing inside your head worth
protecting, Donnie.
Mr Q. Z. D.
--
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
"My parents always told me I could be what I wanted to be. ((o))
So I became a complete bastard." ((O))
JIGSAW1695
Date: 4/1/2002 10:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <slrnaah3tr.48c.p...@tortue.voute.net>
Le 28 Mar 2002 22:26:38 GMT, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a écrit :
>> Coming from someone who thinks a 1300 cc bike is a 'moped', Jigsaw, I
>> think I shall trust my own instincts on this one.
{ snip }
> And you may not be afraid of death, but suppose you only break your neck
> with paralysis from the neck down ..or from the waist down..and you dont
> need life support?
Fair point, Jigsaw. I shall be more careful in future, and limit my
wheelies to 100 mph ... :-)
--
Desmond Coughlan |CUNT#1
............................................
Since there is no law against stupidity, go right ahead. But sometimes "the
other driver" is the one who makes the fatal error that initiates a cascade of
events resulting in a fatality.
But then again, drivers in France, especially in Paris, and known worlwide for
their safe driving habits, their defensive driving skills and their reluctance
to be anything but a slow, safe driver. They are especially noted, and rightly
so, for their politness towards other drivers.
Jigsaw
John Rennie
So you HAVE been there!
JIGSAW1695
Date: 4/1/2002 10:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <DA1q8.37546$gj7.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>
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LOL...indeed I have, several times. Dreary in the winter, beautiful in the
spring. Especially enjoyable were the cab rides to and from the airport.
William Robert
>Fair point, Jigsaw. I shall be more careful in future, and limit my
>wheelies to 100 mph ... :-)
Desi, in America little girls without helmets regularly do 100 mph
wheelies.You'll have to do much better than that to impress us.
William Robert
dirtdog
Robert) wrote:
Fuck's sake. This _is_ getting ridiculous.
w00f
Rev. Don Kool
> "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>David Herbert wrote:
>>>With that helmet on him???
>> Helmet!! ROTFLOLASTD!!!! What a sissy!!
> We are all perfectly aware that there is nothing inside your head worth
> protecting, Donnie.
Poor Davy, is that the best you can do. Apparently William Robert has really knocked the wind out of your sails.
Spot
>From: "Rev. Don Kool" old...@comcast.net
>Date: 4/2/2002 7:01 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3CAA4669...@comcast.net>
>
>David Herbert wrote:
>
>> "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>David Herbert wrote:
>
>>>>With that helmet on him???
>
>>> Helmet!! ROTFLOLASTD!!!! What a sissy!!
>
>> We are all perfectly aware that there is nothing inside your head worth
>> protecting, Donnie.
>
> Poor Davy, is that the best you can do. Apparently William Robert has
>really knocked the wind out of your sails.
>
More of Don Kool bucking his "William Robert" alter ego, it seems.