sometimes
bill van dyk
Cave's "Curse of Millhaven" at about 50,000 watts while dancing naked on
my chimney.
But I better get back to my columns and figures before my boss comes by
again....
Bobbie Chalou
"bill van dyk" <bvand...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to put a huge PA system on the top of my house and play Nick
> Cave's "Curse of Millhaven" at about 50,000 watts while dancing naked on
> my chimney.
Do it. Life is short.
B
michael
> Cave's "Curse of Millhaven" at about 50,000 watts while dancing naked on
> my chimney.
That is just *so* Last Year, Bill....
Michael
President of the We Want Jack to Come to The Chatroom Committee
Jack Lazariuk
<bvand...@rogers.com> wrote:
>I'd like to put a huge PA system on the top of my house and play Nick
>Cave's "Curse of Millhaven" at about 50,000 watts while dancing naked on
>my chimney.
That might be a lot of fun for you Bill but it doesn't match my image
of how I would like to see the song played.
I would like to hear and see it sung by a female. I've been trying to
think of who would be able to do it justice and haven't settled on
anyone yet. Who do you think would handle it well?
Jack
Bobbie Chalou
"Jack Lazariuk" <Jack_L...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Lucinda Williams can make any song in the world sound like a dream. I wish
Leonard would team up with her to sing something like Cold Cold Heart. Or
anything.
eve
> Leonard would team up with her to sing something like Cold Cold Heart. Or
> anything.
Oh yessssss, Bobbie. I've seen Lu in concert twice and she makes me
swoon (like I suppose Leonard would, but more in a 'she's singing my
words' rather than 'he's singing to me' sort of way). Small wonder we
like them both. Not crazy about her latest but the single 'Essence' is
in itself a fantastic distillation of female desire bordering on
obsession - a duet with Leonard simply would smoulder. It would be a
Louisiana-Canada combo better than The Band. Bring it on.
eve
'...waiting here for more'
Bobbie Chalou
"eve" <quee...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The two sexiest voices in the world singing together.... imagine how they
could tweak any song at all to make it... make it... (no words for what they
wouild make it) but life would just never be same again, would it? I love
"Essence", not only the song, but the entire cd. "I Envy The Wind"... my
God! Good way to describe it, Eve... female desire bordering on obsession -
both of those songs. I wonder if Leonard knows her... a duet is in order, I
think. I know.
Bobbie
... "waiting by your door
:waiting on your back steps
waiting in my car
waiting at this bar
waiting for your essence"
michael
Excuse me, EXCUSE *ME*
Melfi, your campaign of Intimidation will not succeed.
Let me loose on that Open Mike, and you are going to regret it Big Time,
Doctor.
M
talking in riddles, but *she* knows what I mean
GeeshaGrrl
>> Lucinda Williams can make any song in the world sound like a dream. I wish
>> Leonard would team up with her to sing something like Cold Cold Heart. Or
>> anything.
>
queeneve responds:
>Oh yessssss, Bobbie. I've seen Lu in concert twice and she makes me
>swoon (like I suppose Leonard would, but more in a 'she's singing my
>words' rather than 'he's singing to me' sort of way). Small wonder we
>like them both. Not crazy about her latest but the single 'Essence' is
>in itself a fantastic distillation of female desire bordering on
>obsession - a duet with Leonard simply would smoulder. It would be a
>Louisiana-Canada combo better than The Band. Bring it on.
>
>eve
>
>'...waiting here for more'
>
Seems I've read some interview or other where Leonard said he's never heard of
Lucinda Williams. Some kind soul here who has an inside track should send him a
couple of her CDs......they both have been influenced by the music of Hank
Williams, and he's sure to love her. As it happens, Lucinda is a cousin of
twin sisters that I grew up with, and one very memorable day when we were all
about 15 or so, Lucinda, a couple years older, was at their house with her
guitar, and gave family and friends a rousing good songfest 'round the kitchen
table. It was really cool when she burst onto the scene a few years ago.She had
always wanted to be a singer-songwriter, never wanted to do anything else.
She's definitely paid her dues in a lot of smoky, stinky juke joints, and has
probably ducked more than her share of flying chairs. And she made it out of
the swamps and into the bigtime. I'm really glad for her, glad that she kept at
it.... BTW, if anyone's interested, (Leonard? you listening?) Lucinda's father
is Miller Williams, a poet of excellent repute down here in the south. His
books should be pretty easy to find.
If I weren't so lazy, I'd find some for you, but just writing this post has me
exhausted. Seeeeya.
-Squidge
eve
wrote something suspiciously close to that about a year before tht
song came out (for an independent film project), but actually we must
credit Mr Bill Shakespeare for 'O, that I were a glove upon that hand,
That I might touch that cheek!' etc. etc. for the original written
sentiment.
Sexiest voices in the world? Hmmm... don't know. Lu, to me, isn't so
much sexy as... well, in some tracks on 'Essence' she sounds a bit too
intoxicated. But 'Sweet Old World' (a much older song) still makes me
tear up every time I hear it, the grief and heartbreak extant in its
back story, despite the overly sweet arrangement... And her live blues
sets are just chilling, like Howlin' Wolf back from the grave.
But anyway - I vote for Lu and Lenny. On her last tour the stage was
lit with candles. In a National Public Radio interview with her when
'Essence' came out, the interviewer asked where she'd come up with
such sensual lines, and she kind of cleared her throat and said,
'Um... wishful thinking?' Saved my life that day, to be sure. Had
Leonard heard it, he'd be on the phone with her that moment.
spilling candle wax...
eve.
Jack Lazariuk
<cha...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
>Lucinda Williams can make any song in the world sound like a dream. I wish
>Leonard would team up with her to sing something like Cold Cold Heart. Or
>anything.
Natalie Merchant is very enjoyable to watch as well. 10000 Maniacs is
the only music video we have in this house.
Jack
bill van dyk
> Sexiest voices in the world? Hmmm... don't know. Lu, to me, isn't so
> much sexy as... well, in some tracks on 'Essence' she sounds a bit too
Margot Timmins, by a mile.
As for "Curse of Millhaven"--- Cat Power accompanied by the Talking
Heads.
BigAl
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Though not disagreeing with you Bobbie per se I actually think better
singers would be (though I'm not knocking Lucinda. Got a couple of her
albums)
Sarah McLachlan (I know at least one person who'd agree with that <g>)
Jane Siberry
The late Laura Nyro
The late Sandy Denny
The late Barbara Thornton
June Tabor (I'd pay serious money to hear her and Leonard do "Joan Of Arc")
and how about Anonymous 4? Can you imagine those voices sharing verses of
"The Future" with Leonard?
The only (female) voice possible that could justice to the end "One Of Us
Cannot Be Wrong" is Diamanda Galas.
BigAl
Bobbie Chalou
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If you malign me on that stage Mr. Big Time emcee, I'll ... I'll... I'll
round out your pointies.
Mel
Bobbie Chalou
"GeeshaGrrl" <geesh...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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I was thinking the same thing, Squidge... that someone should send Leonard a
couple of Lucinda's cd's. I would if I thought Kelley would give them to
him. But would he listen? He would be missing out if he didn't.
What a wonderful experience, to sit around the kitchen table with Lu before
she broke into the bigtime. And indeed, Squidge... it was her version of
Cold Cold Heart that I heard on a tribute album to Hank Williams
("Timeless") that got me thinking what a perfect song for a L and L duet.
Have you heard that cd? Dylan, EmmyLou, Lucinda, even Keith Richards...
Bobbie
GeeshaGrrl
> it was her version of
>Cold Cold Heart that I heard on a tribute album to Hank Williams
>("Timeless") that got me thinking what a perfect song for a L and L duet.
>Have you heard that cd? Dylan, EmmyLou, Lucinda, even Keith Richards...
>
>Bobbie
>
No, Bobbie, I haven't...but will make a point to get it. I hadn't actually
gotten 'round to buying any of Lucinda's yet, either, but had just been seeing
her on the telly a lot lately and had been meaning to make it down to the
Virgin superstore. Must confess, most of my music comes from the seconhand
stores.....It's good that country, bluegrass, blues, and other forms of "roots"
music is finally coming into its own amongst educated folks. For so long it's
been dissed as the stuff of backwoods hicks, somehow lacking in musical value,
and it's been *somewhat* inaccurately associated with segregation. Po' white
trash music and black blues....both come out of gospel and slave spirituals,
and both come from the wrong side of the tracks. But, hey, Leonard himself was
quoted in an interview, saying, southern people aren't stupid. For a long
time, I'll admit, I kept my bluegrass and country albums hidden away where my
'cool' friends couldn't see, but now they're outta the closet. I just love all
that old stuff, Ferlin Husky, Odetta, Muddy Waters, Blind Lemon, Big Mama
Thornton, Dolly Parton, Porter Waggoner, the Statler Brothers, Albert King,
Odetta, Scruggs & Flatt. These people are amazing musicians. I love music,
period, of any kind, if it's well done. Jazz, opera, zydeco, Gregorian chant,
big band. Peggy Lee. Hal Ketchum, Kate & Anna McGarrigle, Ramblin' Jack,
whatever. I always laugh when some folks on this newsgroup start bitching
about "Jazz Police" because I don't think they "get it." I live in the city
which pretty much invented jazz, and yet, how do you define it? or confine it?
If you walk a mile through downtown New Orleans, you'll hear many different
kinds of music---fusion, improv, dixieland, etc---which all bill themselves as
jazz, but which on the surface sound nothing alike. We need the Jazz Police to
do an internal investigation and sort it all out. Ha !
Hey, if you ever get a chance to see Hank Williams III (that's right, the
grandson) in performance, don't miss him. He's WICKED good !!
Thanks again.
---Squidge
~greg
"GeeshaGrrl" <geesh...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message news:20020209125835...@mb-ce.aol.com...
Elliott
:)
~greg
~greg
"eve" >
> a duet with Leonard simply would smoulder.
> '...waiting here for more'
I wish there was a Lenny-Nico duet somewhere.
(she dead now)
The first truly mesmerizing non-operatic female singer
I ever heard was Dorothy Moskowitz when she was
with the lesser known of the two greatest pop-bands
there ever were - "The United States of America"
( the other was the "Velvet Underground"
- which featured Nico sometimes.)
They put out only one album.
I was thinking there's no way Big Al could
know of them, but now I find he
knows of and maybe has:
"The Rock Machine Turns You On" from 1968 widely
regarded as the first compilation album
which has:
The United States Of America: I won't leave my wooden wife for you, Sugar
Dorothy doesn't sing on that cut, but if Al has it
I wish he'd listen to it and report on it.
~greg
Mark Barker
the mark. More power to you! You got your act together, it's plain to see.
High regards,
Mark
Mark Barker
names like Muddy Waters, Porter and Dolly, Flatt & Scruggs, Ramblin Jack, Hank
Williams, etc. Btw, Hank 3 has got it in his veins too,... just like his dad. He's very
talented and soulful,... but I still prefer Luke the Drifter. However, I also feel like
Kristofferson, who said,
"I ain't gonna call Hank Williams Jr. "Junior" any more
Even though I've heard the things his daddy did before
Hank weighs more than 200 lbs and stands about 6 foot four
And I ain't gonna call Hank Williams Jr "Junior" any more"
Roots music. That's what I find myself listening too more and more, as I get older. I'm
bad to like to follow a little Miles Davis with some Ralph Stanley,...then maybe a
little Otis Redding or James Brown, or even John Lee Hooker. Throw a little JJ Cale (or
Leonard Cohen) on tray number 5, and you got you a fine afternoon of good listening
music. I do love music too, Squidge. It's really all I ever cared about. A friend of
mine says it better when he says,
"I'm growing tired of searching, there's nothing more I crave
Give or take a little time and you can write it on my grave
There's nothing more I care to own, nothing more to feel
All I ever wanted was this piece of wood and steel" R. Dobson
Barbara
with 'your' music!
Love
Boo
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BigAl
"~greg" <g...@magpage.com> wrote in message
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Well Greg, not only do I have the "Rock Machine Turns You On" album with the
cut you name (and who was it here I had a conversation with about the
previous album, the name of which escapes me for the mo'. Bobbie, Elizabeth?
Damn! Can't remember and I've long since done several rebuilds on this PC so
me records have gone) but I also have the original "The United States Of
America" album.
I have to confess that the similarity between Nico (got most of her albums)
and Dorothy Moscowitz had totally passed me by but now you mention it,
well............. you's dead right me old son.
I believe I've mentioned the album (USA) here before, and I may well check
Google tomorrow to verify, but it really is stunning. Originally seen as a
take on the Beatles' "St. Peppers" album it is far more original than that.
The track Greg mentions ("I Won't Leave My Wooden Wife For You, Sugar") is,
in my view, the worst track on the album. The best (again, in my view) were
"The Garden Of Earthly Delights" (this was the single from the album; both
were released in 1968 and it was the single that led me to the album) which
was based on the painting of the same name, "Cloud Song" based on "Winnie
The Pooh" and, the best track on the album, "Love Song For The Dead Che"
which was/is so unutterably beautiful (Dorothy was the vocalist, Joseph Byrd
did both music and lyrics) that I'm going to type it out for you all.
Copyright acknowledged.
"At the dawn of an ordinary Sunday
I remember the taste of you, sweet in my mouth,
Late in the year.
And in the stillness of the Oriente rainfall
I remember the warmth of you, still in my arms,
Late, late in the year.
I can bring you flowers in the night
Soft as my trembling fingers touch you - love,
Late in the year.
Late in the year."
There's some silly bits on the album but overall it really should be
acknowledged as one of *the* psychedelic/hippy/consciousness albums of all
time and Dorothy had one of the most sublime voices that came from that era
(if not all eras).
Anyway, just so you all know what "I Won't Leave My Wooden Wife For You,
Sugar" is about, these are the lyrics and, again, copyright acknowledged.
"Now listen, Baby,
And try to understand
That tying you is fine
And whipping you is grand.
Now I just can't tell you how much fun it's been.
You make me feel twenty-five again.
But I can't leave my wooden wife for you, sugar.
I got a split level house with a wonderful view, sugar,
A couple next door who do the things we do, sugar,
And every Saturday we sit around the pool.
If I should meet you on the street someday,
I hope you'll understand me if I look away,
It isn't that I'm ashamed about you and me
But I've got to consider my morality.
And I won't leave my wooden wife for you, sugar.
I got a split level house with a wonderful view, sugar,
Three sweet kids and a Yorkshire terrier too, sugar.
And I just couldn't stand it when you come home late from school."
As far as "they only put out one album" as Greg says; this is true though
Joseph Byrd did, I believe put out an album of his own. The rest of the band
were: Gordon Marron, Craig Woodson and Rand Forbes.
BigAl
who's never heard of any of them!
José Tomás Domínguez
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Alanis Morisette?
Pp.
Mark Barker
I suspect your opinion might be a little biased,.. but I still appreciate it. You
send me, Boo. Honest you do. (Hmmm,..sounds like song lyrics, don't they?)
P&L,
BB
José Tomás Domínguez
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> "Jack Lazariuk" escribió en el mensaje
> > I would like to hear and see it sung by a female. I've been trying to
> > think of who would be able to do it justice and haven't settled on
> > anyone yet. Who do you think would handle it well?
> > Jack
>
> Alanis Morisette?
>
> Pp.
Oh, what happens to me? I was trying to give a stupid answer to a
stupid question: I will explain. Some thing I've noted is the many times
you remark how important for you are your relations with women
(Michael said something about this the other day) as if everything
is more palatable if it is done by (or with) women. I understand it
because it happens to me too. But ethics seems important to you.
So wouldn't it be more disgusting that perfect perverse insane
happines in the voice of a woman? I really doubt a woman could
sing well that and going on being charming at the same time. Or
at least it should be so. Contradictions.
Pp.
Jack Lazariuk
<jtom...@mail.idecnet.com> wrote:
>Oh, what happens to me? I was trying to give a stupid answer to a
>stupid question: I will explain. Some thing I've noted is the many times
>you remark how important for you are your relations with women
>(Michael said something about this the other day) as if everything
>is more palatable if it is done by (or with) women. I understand it
>because it happens to me too. But ethics seems important to you.
>So wouldn't it be more disgusting that perfect perverse insane
>happines in the voice of a woman? I really doubt a woman could
>sing well that and going on being charming at the same time. Or
>at least it should be so. Contradictions.
>Pp.
I think I see your point. I was wondering who people thought could
pull it off. An actress can play a role and you would still see her as
charming even if the role is not so charming. I don't think that
women want to be charming all the time. sometimes ....
Jack
José Tomás Domínguez
> I was wondering who people thought could pull it off.
Of all the names proposed my vote will go to Diamanda Galas.
Kate Bush always do beautiful strange versions too. And to do
justice the new Alanis record has a good song at least, the last
one, Utopia.
Pp.