Mini CD in iMAc CD Rom drive
Snit
card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot loading.
Not too fond of this problem.
Edwin
"Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's always
the eject button on the CD drive...
I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't mounted?
I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a paperclip
to open a drive drawer...
Edwin
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini credit
> > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
> > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
> > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> loading.
> > Not too fond of this problem.
>
> In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's always
> the eject button on the CD drive...
>
> I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't mounted?
You guess wrong.
>
> I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a paperclip
> to open a drive drawer...
>
> Edwin
>
>
You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs shouldn't be
used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
*physical*.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Peter Ammon
What "drive drawer?" This is a slot loading drive, and it would have
the same problem on a PC as on a Mac.
-Peter
Peter Ammon
Here's a post I found about that problem.
http://www.appletechs.com/archives/00000004.html
--
i stuck in an irregular shaped mini CD into my iMac and could not get it
out. found the above instructions and found the electronic eject button
with the paperclip (and power ON) but the CD would not eject.
so i disconnected all peripherals and held the iMac in my arms and legs
with the slot facing downwards and jostled the machine up and down while
activating the electronic eject button with the paperclip. out popped
the CD! woohoo! do not have to tear apart iMac!
the assistance of gravity was enough to dislodge that rotten little
plastic disk.
obviously be very careful and strong enough so that your lovely iMac
fall out of your hands and crash to the floor.
--
Hope this helps,
-Peter
George Graves
> "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini credit
> > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
> > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
> > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> loading.
> > Not too fond of this problem.
>
> In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's always
> the eject button on the CD drive...
>
> I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't mounted?
That makes a lot of f**king sense. If "Eject" is ghosted when a CD
volume isn't mounted, how the GODDAM HELL do you open it to insert a CD?
It's obviously jammed, you putz. Tell you what. Get a CD jammed in your
name-on-request drawer-style generic Windows CD reader and see what good
your "Eject" command in the contextural menu does and BTW, OSX's
contextural menu has an "Eject" command in it as well. Just like on a
Windows PC, it won't eject a JAMMED DISK either!
> I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a paperclip
> to open a drive drawer...
Me too. I'd like it even better if you switched to another news group
that doesn't make you post here.
> Edwin
You're really helpful Edwin. Thanks for your contribution. Just goes to
show how basically mean-spirited you are. Some guy comes here for help
and you respond by gloating over your primitive Windows OS, just because
it's too stupid to know that there's a volume mounted while you're
basically being too stupid to realize that in this case the CD is
jammed. All the contextural menu commands and paperclips in the world
won't make it eject. I guess you and Windows belong together, A marriage
made in heaven, or some such place.
--
George Tirebiter asked you, "If it's a disk problem, then
why did (PC Magazine) say that the G4 also kicked Dell's ass when loading the
controls was added to the time?"
And Whine-Idiot answers: "It was a misprint"
Edwin
"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-63AFB...@newsnews.telus.net...
> In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
credit
> > > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be
ejected
> > > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted
thing
> > > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> > loading.
> > > Not too fond of this problem.
> >
> > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> > even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's
always
> > the eject button on the CD drive...
> >
> > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
mounted?
>
> You guess wrong.
Then why doesn't he use it to open the drawer? Because it's not present,
rather than ghosted?
> >
> > I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
paperclip
> > to open a drive drawer...
> >
> > Edwin
> >
> >
>
> You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs shouldn't be
> used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
> *physical*.
On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the credit
card CD out.
I understood what the problem is. So stop calling me by your name.
Edwin
Edwin
"George Graves" <gmgra...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:gmgravesnos-A2F8...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
credit
> > > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be
ejected
> > > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted
thing
> > > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> > loading.
> > > Not too fond of this problem.
> >
> > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> > even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's
always
> > the eject button on the CD drive...
> >
> > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
mounted?
>
> That makes a lot of f**king sense. If "Eject" is ghosted when a CD
> volume isn't mounted, how the GODDAM HELL do you open it to insert a CD?
Well, you got me there...
> It's obviously jammed, you putz. Tell you what. Get a CD jammed in your
> name-on-request drawer-style generic Windows CD reader and see what good
> your "Eject" command in the contextural menu does and BTW, OSX's
> contextural menu has an "Eject" command in it as well. Just like on a
> Windows PC, it won't eject a JAMMED DISK either!
He's got an old iMac with a slot drawer, so he probably doesn't have Mac OS
X.
[snip]
Bile soaked hypocrisy snipped.
Edwin
Lloyd Parsons
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Yoo Hoo! Is your reading comprehension slipping?
Here's what he was talking about:
> > > > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> > credit
You remembeer slot loading cd's don't you? They are the ones WITHOUT a
drawer!
Lloyd
George Graves
Snit <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote:
OK. The problem is that the 'credit-card' disk is jammed. I am assuming
here that by credit-card disk you are referring to a CD that is actually
the same size and shape of a credit-card with a spindle hole in the
center? If so, this type of drive is not suited these disks because they
don't have an actual tray for the card to lay in. The slot-loading type
of CD drive COUNTS on the fact that CDs are round to guide them in and
out of the mechanism. Your problem is that when the drive tried to eject
the card, a corner or edge of the card got caught on something internal
to the mechanism. Before dismantling anything try this. Get a long
bladed, thin flat knife. Carefully insert the blade into the drive slot.
This is difficult to explain, but try to use the blade to "feel" the
card. You should be able to find the edge of the card with the blade.
Now, move the blade so that it passes over the TOP of the card and pull
the tip of the blade in a "prying" motion back toward the slot. The
pressure of the blade should unhook the corner or edge of the card that
is hung, away from whatever caught it. If the top is free, then
obvioulsy, the card is caught from the bottom. Repeat the procedure on
the bottom side of the card. Hopefully you can free it from whatever
it's hung on and since the mechanism has been trying all this time to
eject the disk (if you gave it that command) it will try to complete the
action and when free, the card should spit out. The reason I know this
is because a friend's daughter tried to play one of those small CD
singles in her car stereo; it has one of those slot-load CD mechanisms
and the disc got jammed. I was able to extract it using the method
described above.
In the future, my advice is: if ain't round and 4.5 inches in diameter,
don't insert it.
Sandman
> I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> credit card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it
> be ejected with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the
> blasted thing out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the
> idea of slot loading. Not too fond of this problem.
>
> In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it
> works even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then
> there's always the eject button on the CD drive...
>
> I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
> mounted?
>
> I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
> paperclip to open a drive drawer...
I'm glad you're back Edwin, we have been stuck with troll wannabe's such as
John Jones (which seems to have disappeared just as you reappaerd - funny ey?).
Your level of ignorance is hard to find. I just want to ask you this - what "CD
Drawer" is there to open in a slot loading CD reader? :-D
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
> > You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs shouldn't be
> > used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
> > *physical*.
>
> On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the credit
> card CD out.
There isn't a "drawer" on a slot-loading CD reader, Edwin. :-D
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > It's obviously jammed, you putz. Tell you what. Get a CD jammed in your
> > name-on-request drawer-style generic Windows CD reader and see what good
> > your "Eject" command in the contextural menu does and BTW, OSX's
> > contextural menu has an "Eject" command in it as well. Just like on a
> > Windows PC, it won't eject a JAMMED DISK either!
>
> He's got an old iMac with a slot drawer, so he probably doesn't have Mac OS
> X.
Why not? I have Panther installed on a 400 Mhz slot-loading iMac with 196MB of
RAM without any problems what so ever, why are you assuming the OP didn't?
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
George Graves <gmgra...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Good advice - but shouldn't a slotloading CD reader handle the smaller 3.15
inch CD discs aswell?
--
Sandman[.net]
Jim Polaski
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
Besides, f12 ejects the CD or opens the tray, in Mac OS X that is. I
think f11 ejects the internal zip as well in OS X.
You were saying edloser.
--
Regards,
JP
"The measure of a man is what he will do while expecting that he will get nothing in return!"
Macintosh for productivity. Linux for servers. Palm/Visor for mobility. Windows to feed the Black Hole in your IT budget
Jim Polaski
There is no drawer. It has a slot. Can you get that?
Jim Polaski
Lloyd Parsons <lloydp...@nospammac.com> wrote:
Lloyd, edlost forgot about those because when the tray loading CD drives
disappeared, he lost his coffee cup holder.
Edwin
"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp...@nospammac.com> wrote in message
news:071020031303190140%lloydp...@nospammac.com...
Oh yeah... that cheap crap that Apple stuck into premium priced iMacs... PCs
haven't had those for years... not even cheap PCs... they're all drawer
loaded... I'm sure glad I didn't pick a computer with a crummy slot-loading
CD...
Edwin
Edwin
"Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
news:mr-4384C7.20...@news.fu-berlin.de...
You're right. Sorry, not even cheap PCs have a crummy CD loader like
that... you'd have to go back, what, 9, 10 years to find a PC with a
slot-loading CD?
Edwin
Steve Mackay
Like usual, you are wrong. Dell and Micron both used slot load CD drives
during the same era. I've got one sitting here next to me running as our
web/mail/file server running debian. The Micron DEFINATELY wasn't a cheap PC
back then.
I really think they adjusted your meds wrong this time. You seemed much
more intelligent and pleasant to deal with last time around.
Lloyd Parsons
Polaski <jpol...@NOync.net> wrote:
LOL!
Of course, we all know that isn't all he forgot either!
--
Lloyd
Lloyd Parsons
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Bullshit! PCs also had them at the same time. Lots of the consumer
models had them.
--
Lloyd
Edwin
"Steve Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7Fgb.12189$pg7....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Edwin wrote:
> > "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> > news:mr-4384C7.20...@news.fu-berlin.de...
> >> In article <bluuo3$f3mr0$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> >> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs
> >>>> shouldn't be used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The
> >>>> problem is *physical*.
> >>>
> >>> On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick
> >>> the credit card CD out.
> >>
> >> There isn't a "drawer" on a slot-loading CD reader, Edwin. :-D
> >
> > You're right. Sorry, not even cheap PCs have a crummy CD loader like
> > that... you'd have to go back, what, 9, 10 years to find a PC with a
> > slot-loading CD?
>
> Like usual, you are wrong. Dell and Micron both used slot load CD
drives
> during the same era. I've got one sitting here next to me running as our
> web/mail/file server running debian. The Micron DEFINATELY wasn't a cheap
PC
> back then.
Back then? iMacs were sold with slot loading CDs only within the last two
or three years. There were no similarly equipped PCs sold at the same
time, unless you bought drives like that yourself and put them in.
> I really think they adjusted your meds wrong this time. You seemed
much
> more intelligent and pleasant to deal with last time around.
Why bother trying to be pleasant? I get the same sh*tty replies from
Maccies one way or the other...
Edwin
Lloyd Parsons
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Not even close to that far back, think much more recent.
--
Lloyd
Edwin
That defines your sentence below:
>PCs also had them at the same time. Lots of the consumer
> models had them.
Nope. You'd be hard pressed to find any PC with slot-loading CDs when
Apple introduced the same in iMacs. Mostly el-cheapo replacement drives...
Edwin
Edwin
Nope.
Edwin
Edwin
> In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Edwin"
> <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> > credit card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it
> > be ejected with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the
> > blasted thing out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the
> > idea of slot loading. Not too fond of this problem.
> >
> > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it
> > works even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then
> > there's always the eject button on the CD drive...
> >
> > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
> > mounted?
> >
> > I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
> > paperclip to open a drive drawer...
>
> I'm glad you're back Edwin, we have been stuck with troll wannabe's such
as
> John Jones (which seems to have disappeared just as you reappaerd - funny
ey?).
Yes, you are funny, but not in a "funny ha ha" kind of way...
> Your level of ignorance is hard to find.
You can find a deeper level of ignorance by looking into a mirror or a bit
of highly polished metal...
>I just want to ask you this - what "CD
> Drawer" is there to open in a slot loading CD reader? :-D
I'm calling the thing that comes out in your hand a "drawer." So sue me.
Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you better.
Edwin
Edwin
> In article <gmgravesnos-E33C...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
> George Graves <gmgra...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net>,
> > Snit <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote:
[snip]
> Good advice - but shouldn't a slotloading CD reader handle the smaller
3.15
> inch CD discs as well?
I fixed your sentence. You're welcome.
Edwin
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >I just want to ask you this - what "CD
> > Drawer" is there to open in a slot loading CD reader? :-D
>
> I'm calling the thing that comes out in your hand a "drawer." So sue me.
Eh? You are calling the CD disc a drawer?
> Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you better.
What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you actually
thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages old, but also hasn't
been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
Go look at http:///www.apple.com/powerbook (they are the only one featuring slot-loading nowadays) - you see the thin
line on the right side of the front of the powerbooks? THOSE are slot loading
CD trays. It's just a slit in the casing in which you insert the naked CD.
There are no parts of the CD reader that "comes out" when you eject or insert.
I just can't phantom that you didn't know this!
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>> You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs
>>>> shouldn't be used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The
>>>> problem is *physical*.
>>>
>>> On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the
>>> credit card CD out.
>>
>> There isn't a "drawer" on a slot-loading CD reader, Edwin. :-D
>
> You're right. Sorry, not even cheap PCs have a crummy CD loader like
> that... you'd have to go back, what, 9, 10 years to find a PC with a
> slot-loading CD?
You are WAAAAY out in the bush on this one, Edwin. See my other reply to you.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Good advice - but shouldn't a slotloading CD reader handle the smaller
> > 3.15 inch CD discs as well?
>
> I fixed your sentence. You're welcome.
Thanks!
--
Sandman[.net]
Tim Adams
> "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini credit
> > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
> > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
> > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> loading.
> > Not too fond of this problem.
>
> In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's always
> the eject button on the CD drive...
>
> I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't mounted?
>
> I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a paperclip
> to open a drive drawer...
Poor little eddie still showing how he hasn't learned to read.
Just where on a slot loading CD drive is the CD drawer located?
>
> Edwin
>
>
Snit
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
>> I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini credit
>> card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
>> with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
>> out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> loading.
>> Not too fond of this problem.
>
> In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's always
> the eject button on the CD drive...
>
> I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't mounted?
>
> I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a paperclip
> to open a drive drawer...
>
> Edwin
>
Not only have you offered nothing toward a solution of the problem, you have
shown a deep misunderstanding of the problem. Is it this same lack of
understanding and helpfulness that lead you to your current computer? Your
current job? What other areas in life do you show this level of ignorance
and perhaps even malice toward others?
Just curious.
Alan Baker
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-63AFB...@newsnews.telus.net...
> > In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> credit
> > > > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be
> ejected
> > > > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted
> thing
> > > > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> > > loading.
> > > > Not too fond of this problem.
> > >
> > > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> > > even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's
> always
> > > the eject button on the CD drive...
> > >
> > > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
> mounted?
> >
> > You guess wrong.
>
> Then why doesn't he use it to open the drawer? Because it's not present,
> rather than ghosted?
Because it doesn't *have* a drawer, you twit! It's a "old style slot
loading" CD drive!
The only place the entry was "ghosted" was in your imagination.
>
> > >
> > > I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
> paperclip
> > > to open a drive drawer...
> > >
> > > Edwin
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs shouldn't be
> > used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
> > *physical*.
>
> On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the credit
> card CD out.
>
> I understood what the problem is. So stop calling me by your name.
Really?
Then why did you refer to a drawer that doesn't exist and a ghosted
command he never mentioned?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Alan Baker
You think that there is any iMac that shipped with a drive that eject a
'sleeve' or a '"CD carrier"'?
You're even more ignorant than I thought.
Alan Baker
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
They actually will. They just won't handle the credit card (and other
irregularly shaped) ones.
Alan Baker
Which is about the limit of your useful contributions to this thread...
Steve Mackay
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:blv82a$g80e9$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de...
Slot load iMac came out Oct 1993 according to lowendmac.com .
> There were no similarly equipped PCs sold at the same
> time, unless you bought drives like that yourself and put them in.
Umm, no...
>
> > I really think they adjusted your meds wrong this time. You seemed
> much
> > more intelligent and pleasant to deal with last time around.
>
> Why bother trying to be pleasant? I get the same sh*tty replies from
> Maccies one way or the other...
Ahh, so the adjustments on your meds was on purpose? Did your doctor think
you were being too passive this time?
David C. Fritzinger
<steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I suspect a typo here. In 1998, there was no iMac...
Dave Fritzinger
[snip]
ZnU
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article <blv8so$gqt25$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > >I just want to ask you this - what "CD
> > > Drawer" is there to open in a slot loading CD reader? :-D
> >
> > I'm calling the thing that comes out in your hand a "drawer." So
> > sue me.
>
> Eh? You are calling the CD disc a drawer?
>
> > Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you better.
>
> What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
>
> Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
> actually thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages
> old, but also hasn't been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
Actually, Macs did use these, in the distant past. They were used in the
Centris and Quadra machines (my Quadra 660 AV used one), and also in
(some?) first-generation Power Macs.
It's hilarious that Edwin thinks they were used in iMacs.
[snip]
--
"First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just
because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill."
-- George W. Bush in Washington, D.C. on May 19, 2003
George Graves
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article <gmgravesnos-E33C...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
> George Graves <gmgra...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net>,
> > Snit <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote:
> >
> Good advice - but shouldn't a slotloading CD reader handle the smaller 3.15
> inch CD discs aswell?
You'd think so, but this one (a Panasonic model) did not.
--
George Tirebiter asked you, "If it's a disk problem, then
why did (PC Magazine) say that the G4 also kicked Dell's ass when loading the
controls was added to the time?"
And Whine-Idiot answers: "It was a misprint"
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "George Graves" <gmgra...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:gmgravesnos-A2F8...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> > In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> credit
> > > > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be
> ejected
> > > > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted
> thing
> > > > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> > > loading.
> > > > Not too fond of this problem.
> > >
> > > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> > > even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's
> always
> > > the eject button on the CD drive...
> > >
> > > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
> mounted?
> >
> > That makes a lot of f**king sense. If "Eject" is ghosted when a CD
> > volume isn't mounted, how the GODDAM HELL do you open it to insert a CD?
>
> Well, you got me there...
>
> > It's obviously jammed, you putz. Tell you what. Get a CD jammed in your
> > name-on-request drawer-style generic Windows CD reader and see what good
> > your "Eject" command in the contextural menu does and BTW, OSX's
> > contextural menu has an "Eject" command in it as well. Just like on a
> > Windows PC, it won't eject a JAMMED DISK either!
>
> He's got an old iMac with a slot drawer, so he probably doesn't have Mac OS
> X.
What difference does it make, the eject command won't eject a stuck disk
no matter where it's located
>
> [snip]
>
> Bile soaked hypocrisy snipped.
The "bile", as you put it, is fully justified. The guy comes here for
help and all you can do is gloat over a Windows feature that not only
won't help a Mac user with a stuck disk, it won't help a Windows user
with a stuck disk EITHER. At least I gave him a procedure which MIGHT
help him. You gave him NOTHING. So how is it that I'm hypocritical
again? I await your answer.
George Graves
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-63AFB...@newsnews.telus.net...
> > In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> credit
> > > > card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be
> ejected
> > > > with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted
> thing
> > > > out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> > > loading.
> > > > Not too fond of this problem.
> > >
> > > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> > > even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's
> always
> > > the eject button on the CD drive...
> > >
> > > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
> mounted?
> >
> > You guess wrong.
>
> Then why doesn't he use it to open the drawer? Because it's not present,
> rather than ghosted?
>
> > >
> > > I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
> paperclip
> > > to open a drive drawer...
> > >
> > > Edwin
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs shouldn't be
> > used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
> > *physical*.
>
> On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the credit
> card CD out.
You idiot. It would NOT come out if the disk was jammed because the
drawer WON'T open and no combination of contextural menus or eject
buttons is going to open a drawer or operate an eject mechanism that is
being PHYSICALLY RESTRAINED from moving by the jamming of the object
inside.
> I understood what the problem is.
Apparently you didn't. The eject button only works if the mechanism is
not jammed. It is clear from his description that this credit-card CD is
jammed in the mechanism
So stop calling me by your name.
In this case the use of the name is fully warranted.
George Graves
Even a tray won't open if the media is jammed inside. This isn't a
command problem that a paper-clip can solve, Edwin, this is a jammed
mechanism due to physically stuck media.
George Graves
Lloyd Parsons <lloydp...@nospammac.com> wrote:
And whatever they had, no command or eject button or pareclip will free
a mechanism jammed by a stuck disk on ANY platform.
C Lund
> I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini credit
> card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
> with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
> out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot loading.
> Not too fond of this problem.
I've never even *seen* one of these slot-loading players but; would it
be possible to pull the thing out with a tweezer?
--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund
Alan Baker
"Steve Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's a typo, or you read it wrong.
The original iMac came out in 1998.
<snip>
Steve Mackay
"David C. Fritzinger" <dfri...@nospam.hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:071020031833485844%dfri...@nospam.hotmail.nospam.com...
Sorry, it was MY typo. It should have said 1999
Steve Mackay
Woops, should have said 1999
Sandman
wrote:
> > > Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you better.
> >
> > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
> >
> > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
> > actually thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages
> > old, but also hasn't been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
>
> Actually, Macs did use these, in the distant past. They were used in the
> Centris and Quadra machines (my Quadra 660 AV used one)
Ok, I stand corrected. While CD was optional on the 660AV, it was obviously a
caddie if you choose to use one. You seem to be quite right about centris
models also.
> and also in (some?) first-generation Power Macs.
Hmm, I think you're wrong. I had both the 6100 and the 8100, and those had CD
trays. and all my collegues that had 7100 and 71/7200 had trays aswell. That
older version that didn't had a "lid", but the front of the CD readers tray was
what you say in closed position.
> It's hilarious that Edwin thinks they were used in iMacs.
:)
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
Kevin <nom...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
> >
> > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you actually
> > thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages old, but also
> > hasn't
> > been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
>
> This particular neutral third party observer agrees, I think he thought
> you guys were talking about caddy drives.
Edwin does that alot - he misinterpretes something wildly and then draws
advocacy conclusions from that and come back with what he thinks are neat
points of PC advocacy, until he realises that he was wrong all along, which is
when he'll be blakmikng others, backpeddaling and insult people.
> Hence the statement that PC's haven't come with those for 9-10 years.
True, which is also true for Macs.
> Hint: it's the same kind of technology you use in your car's CD player..
Which one? Slot loading or caddie? I think you're talking about slot loading.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
<steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Like usual, you are wrong. Dell and Micron both used slot load CD
>>> drives during the same era. I've got one sitting here next to me
>>> running as our web/mail/file server running debian. The Micron
>>> DEFINATELY wasn't a cheap PC back then.
>>
>> Back then? iMacs were sold with slot loading CDs only within the
>> last two or three years.
>
> Slot load iMac came out Oct 1993 according to lowendmac.com .
I don't know where on lowend you got that information, but iMac with
slot-loading was introduced in October 1999, not 1993.
That makes it four years.
--
Sandman[.net]
Snit
clund-57F101....@amstwist00.chello.com, "C Lund"
<cl...@NOSPAMnotam02.no> wrote:
Tried that. Opening is too small. Grrrrr.....
Edwin
> In article <blv3ie$gummu$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> > news:mr-4384C7.20...@news.fu-berlin.de...
> > > In article <bluuo3$f3mr0$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> > > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs
shouldn't
> > be
> > > > > used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
> > > > > *physical*.
> > > >
> > > > On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the
> > credit
> > > > card CD out.
> > >
> > > There isn't a "drawer" on a slot-loading CD reader, Edwin. :-D
> >
> > You're right. Sorry, not even cheap PCs have a crummy CD loader like
> > that... you'd have to go back, what, 9, 10 years to find a PC with a
> > slot-loading CD?
>
> Even a tray won't open if the media is jammed inside. This isn't a
> command problem that a paper-clip can solve, Edwin, this is a jammed
> mechanism due to physically stuck media.
That's your assumption. The original poster never said the media was stuck
or jammed.
Edwin
Edwin
> In article <blv92c$g8mhg$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> > news:mr-F18E55.20...@news.fu-berlin.de...
> > > In article <gmgravesnos-E33C...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
> > > George Graves <gmgra...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net>,
> > > > Snit <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Good advice - but shouldn't a slotloading CD reader handle the smaller
> > 3.15
> > > inch CD discs as well?
> >
> > I fixed your sentence. You're welcome.
> >
> > Edwin
> >
> >
>
> Which is about the limit of your useful contributions to this thread...
How ironic.
Edwin
Edwin
Umm, yes...
> >
> > > I really think they adjusted your meds wrong this time. You seemed
> > much
> > > more intelligent and pleasant to deal with last time around.
> >
> > Why bother trying to be pleasant? I get the same sh*tty replies from
> > Maccies one way or the other...
>
> Ahh, so the adjustments on your meds was on purpose? Did your doctor think
> you were being too passive this time?
This from the guy who was whining about boring, unoriginal replies...
Edwin
Edwin
Now take the time to fully admit how wrong you were.
PCs weren't coming with slot load CD drives in 1999.
Edwin
Edwin
You should have also admitted that you were wrong about PCs from the same
time period having slot load CDs.
Edwin
Edwin
You're splitting hairs. See below.
> The only place the entry was "ghosted" was in your imagination.
I didn't imagine any such thing. See below.
> >
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
> > paperclip
> > > > to open a drive drawer...
> > > >
> > > > Edwin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > You idiot. The problem is that the mini, "credit card", CDs shouldn't
be
> > > used in a slot loading CD drive. *Any* CD drive. The problem is
> > > *physical*.
> >
> > On a PC, I'd pick "Eject CD" the drawer would open, and I'd pick the
credit
> > card CD out.
> >
> > I understood what the problem is. So stop calling me by your name.
>
> Really?
>
> Then why did you refer to a drawer that doesn't exist
There's a carrier that you put the CD into. I called it a drawer. Sue me.
>and a ghosted
> command he never mentioned?
I asked if the command was ghosted, I didn't say it was. I mentioned it as
a way to eject the CD.
Edwin
Edwin
That's your assumption. He just said it wouldn't eject, ne never said
anything about anything being "jammed."
> > I understood what the problem is.
>
> Apparently you didn't. The eject button only works if the mechanism is
> not jammed. It is clear from his description that this credit-card CD is
> jammed in the mechanism
That's no more "clear" than his CD drive is defective. That's just as
possible from his description.
> So stop calling me by your name.
>
> In this case the use of the name is fully warranted.
For yourself and Alan.
Edwin
Edwin
It's only your assumption that the disk is stuck.
> > [snip]
> >
> > Bile soaked hypocrisy snipped.
More bile soaked hypocrisy snipped.
Edwin
Edwin
"Kevin" <nom...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:blvf8q$6la$1...@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca...
> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
>
> > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
actually
> > thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages old, but also
hasn't
> > been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
>
> This particular neutral third party observer agrees, I think he thought
> haven't come with those for 9-10 years.
>
Thank you for understanding.
Edwin
Edwin
> In article <blvf8q$6la$1...@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca>,
> Kevin <nom...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
> > >
> > > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
actually
> > > thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages old, but also
> > > hasn't
> > > been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
> >
> > This particular neutral third party observer agrees, I think he thought
> > you guys were talking about caddy drives.
>
> Edwin does that alot - he misinterpretes something wildly
I did misinterpret, but not "wildly."
> and then draws
> advocacy conclusions from that and come back with what he thinks are neat
> points of PC advocacy, until he realises that he was wrong all along,
which is
> when he'll be blakmikng others, backpeddaling and insult people.
That's your self-description.
> > Hence the statement that PC's haven't come with those for 9-10 years.
>
> True, which is also true for Macs.
>
> > Hint: it's the same kind of technology you use in your car's CD player..
>
> Which one? Slot loading or caddie? I think you're talking about slot
loading.
Caddie loading used to come in cars.
Edwin
Edwin
"ZnU" <z...@acedsl.com> wrote in message
news:znu-007CE5.0...@news.fu-berlin.de...
> In article <mr-3473BF.23...@news.fu-berlin.de>,
> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <blv8so$gqt25$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >I just want to ask you this - what "CD
> > > > Drawer" is there to open in a slot loading CD reader? :-D
> > >
> > > I'm calling the thing that comes out in your hand a "drawer." So
> > > sue me.
> >
> > Eh? You are calling the CD disc a drawer?
> >
> > > Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you better.
> >
> > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
> >
> > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
> > actually thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages
> > old, but also hasn't been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
>
> Actually, Macs did use these, in the distant past. They were used in the
> Centris and Quadra machines (my Quadra 660 AV used one), and also in
> (some?) first-generation Power Macs.
>
> It's hilarious that Edwin thinks they were used in iMacs.
I confused "Slot loading" with "Caddie loading." How hilarious!
Here's something else guaranteed to get a guffaw out of Znu:
Shoehorn!
Edwin
P.S. I still prefer my nice PC drawer loading CD drive.
Edwin
> In article <znu-007CE5.0...@news.fu-berlin.de>, ZnU
<z...@acedsl.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > > Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you better.
> > >
> > > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
> > >
> > > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
> > > actually thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages
> > > old, but also hasn't been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
> >
> > Actually, Macs did use these, in the distant past. They were used in the
> > Centris and Quadra machines (my Quadra 660 AV used one)
>
> Ok, I stand corrected. While CD was optional on the 660AV, it was
obviously a
> caddie if you choose to use one. You seem to be quite right about centris
> models also.
Oh no, you don't get off that easy.
It's hilarious you didn't know that Macs once used caddie loading CDs.
It's also hilarious that Steve Mackay thought that the iMac came out in
1993.
You Maccies must live under your own rules of judgment. So that means
you're always making "wild assumptions, " and it's "hilarious" how often
you're wrong. Also, none of you have any credibility. Sorry, these are
your rules, not mine.
Edwin
Edwin
> > > In article <blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Edwin"
> > > <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini
> > > > credit card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can
it
> > > > be ejected with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get
the
> > > > blasted thing out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the
> > > > idea of slot loading. Not too fond of this problem.
> > > >
> > > > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it
> > > > works even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then
> > > > there's always the eject button on the CD drive...
> > > >
> > > > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
> > > > mounted?
> > > >
> > > > paperclip to open a drive drawer...
> > >
such
> > as
> > > John Jones (which seems to have disappeared just as you reappaerd -
funny
> > ey?).
> >
> > Yes, you are funny, but not in a "funny ha ha" kind of way...
> >
> > > Your level of ignorance is hard to find.
> >
> > You can find a deeper level of ignorance by looking into a mirror or a
bit
> > of highly polished metal...
> >
> > >I just want to ask you this - what "CD
> > > Drawer" is there to open in a slot loading CD reader? :-D
> >
> > I'm calling the thing that comes out in your hand a "drawer." So sue
me.
>
> 'sleeve' or a '"CD carrier"'?
>
> You're even more ignorant than I thought.
Your supply of irony seems inexhaustible...
Edwin
Edwin
> On 10/7/03 9:29 AM, in article blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
credit
> >> card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be
ejected
> >> with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted
thing
> >> out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
> > loading.
> >> Not too fond of this problem.
> >
> > In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works
> > even if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's
always
> > the eject button on the CD drive...
> >
> > I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't
mounted?
> >
> > I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a
paperclip
> > to open a drive drawer...
> >
> >
> Not only have you offered nothing toward a solution of the problem,
Sure I did. Use a PC instead. It's got a drawer loading CD.
>you have
> shown a deep misunderstanding of the problem.
The crummy iMac is crapped up. Knackered it.
> Is it this same lack of
> understanding and helpfulness that lead you to your current computer?
The PC is the computer for people who don't know computers? Okay, if you
say so...
>Your
> current job? What other areas in life do you show this level of ignorance
> and perhaps even malice toward others?
Ignorance and malice? I just forgot what kind of CD drive the iMac came
with. It's not like I bow down and worship one every day like you do.
> Just curious.
No, you're just hypocritically displaying the "malice' you're whining about.
Edwin
Edwin
"Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
> I have an iMac (old style slot loading) that someone stuck a mini credit
> card CD into... It does not show up on the desktop, nor can it be ejected
> with the mini paperclip hole. Any ideas on how to get the blasted thing
> out? Do I have to take it apart. Love Mac. Love the idea of slot
loading.
> Not too fond of this problem.
Sorry for my earlier replies, Snit. I was just trying to troll the Maccies,
and trying to rile them up.
George is probably right, the disk is jammed. You'll have to open the
thing up. Sorry.
Sorry too for my reply to you further down in the thread.
Good luck with your iMac. It is a fine computer.
Edwin
Sandman
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> Call it a sleeve or a "CD carrier" instead, if it suits you
>>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
>>>>
>>>> Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
>>>> actually thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages
>>>> old, but also hasn't been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
>>>
>>> Actually, Macs did use these, in the distant past. They were used in
>>> the Centris and Quadra machines (my Quadra 660 AV used one)
>>
>> Ok, I stand corrected. While CD was optional on the 660AV, it was
>> obviously a caddie if you choose to use one. You seem to be quite
>> right about centris models also.
>
> Oh no, you don't get off that easy.
Oh-oh
> It's hilarious you didn't know that Macs once used caddie loading CDs.
You are free to laugh all you want, I would expect nothing less.
> It's also hilarious that Steve Mackay thought that the iMac came out
> in 1993.
I'm glad that you're glad.
> You Maccies must live under your own rules of judgment. So that
> means you're always making "wild assumptions, " and it's "hilarious"
> how often you're wrong. Also, none of you have any credibility.
> Sorry, these are your rules, not mine.
Hehe, it cut you deep, didn't it? Didn't know what a slot-loading CD reader
was... Hehe. :)
--
Sandman[.net]
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
That's a suggestion? Your're just pitiful, Edwin, pitiful. And BTW
drawer-loading CD drives aren't totally immune from jamming, either.
> >you have
> > shown a deep misunderstanding of the problem.
>
> The crummy iMac is crapped up. Knackered it.
You just told the original poster that his iMac was a fine machine. Now
which is it? Or are the two Edwins fighting for dominance again? Looks
like "The Home" cut you loose to early this time. Call your doc, tell
him the meds aren't working too good this time. Tell the "other" Edwin
to do the same.
Edwin
It's that I forgot, not that I didn't know.
Edwin
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
P.S. So do I, but they can get jammed too.
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
It's only my "assumption" yes. But it's backed by my experience with
such things coupled with the description of the problem from the person
who posted about it. Sure. I'm not there, I haven't seen it in person,
but if nothing will eject the disc, it's jammed. No other answer fits
the symptoms.
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > Bile soaked hypocrisy snipped.
>
> More bile soaked hypocrisy snipped.
More issue evading and back-peddling by Edwin.
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
But unlikely. The disk he inserted is SHAPPED LIKE A CREDIT CARD fer
chrissake! It has corners that will get jammed. Most slot-loading drives
warn buyers not to insert anything other than round CDs as they CAN GET
JAMMED.
> > So stop calling me by your name.
> >
> > In this case the use of the name is fully warranted.
>
> For yourself and Alan.
How juvenile.
Snit
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>> Not only have you offered nothing toward a solution of the problem,
>
> Sure I did. Use a PC instead. It's got a drawer loading CD.
And how would that fix the computer with the problem? If the whole issue
was slot loading or drawer, I could get a new Mac... The current iMacs and
towers come slot loading. Still, I am not looking to REPLACE the machine,
but to FIX it. Does that help you to understand the problem. Seems if I
(and others) have to spend so much time explaining and describing a fairly
simple problem, you are unlikely to be able to offer any support.
>> you have shown a deep misunderstanding of the problem.
>
> The crummy iMac is crapped up. Knackered it.
OK, now you have shown you have a juvenile understanding of the problem.
You are improving. I congratulate you. Your description still leaves
something to be desired... Like any useful description of the problem.
>> Is it this same lack of understanding and helpfulness that lead you to your
>> current computer?
>
> The PC is the computer for people who don't know computers? Okay, if you
> say so...
I did not... I did not even say what computer I thought you had. Not that I
really care. For the record, I know both Mac and Win well... And prefer Mac
for 99% of what I do. If you have a different opinion, great, but that is
not pertinent to the problem at hand. I do note, however, that your answer
acknowledges your lack of understanding. Again, I congratulate you. I am
curious - have you gained any understanding through this thread? Several
people have described the problem. Would you like me to do so for you? I
could place some images on the web for you and provide the link if that
would help.
>> Your current job? What other areas in life do you show this level of
>> ignorance and perhaps even malice toward others?
>
> Ignorance and malice? I just forgot what kind of CD drive the iMac came
> with. It's not like I bow down and worship one every day like you do.
It is not that you simply forgot, your reply was:
> In Windows "Eject CD" is available in the contextual menu, and it works even
> if the CD drive is empty (opens the CD drawer). Then there's always the eject
> button on the CD drive...
>
> I guess the "Eject" is ghosted out on a Mac if a CD volume isn't mounted?
>
> I'm sure glad I switched to a computer that doesn't make me use a paperclip to
> open a drive drawer...
In that reply you
1) offered no help
2) described (incorrectly) what would work on a different computer than the
one I asked about. As has been shown in the thread, you were wrong on many
levels here.
3) Went on about YOUR computer, as if the question had something to do with
you or your computer. Shows a level of arrogance and single mindedness.
In what way was your reply appropriate?
>> Just curious.
>
> No, you're just hypocritically displaying the "malice' you're whining about.
Actually I am pointing out to you that your reply had essentially no merit -
it did not attempt to offer assistance, it showed a level of bragging, it
(erroneously) put down an entire class of computers. Please enlighten me...
What value did the posting have? Value is defined simply: in what way did
it help to resolve the problem presented. I do not see it.
Snit
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Apology excepted. Rarely do you see a troll acknowledge that he is a troll.
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
No there isn't. He's not talking about a changer, he's talking about a
slot that you insert a single CD through. There's no "carrier" that
anyone can see or have access to, there is only a mechanical device
inside the slot which grabs the CD when it's inserted and puls it into
the mechanism.
> >and a ghosted
> > command he never mentioned?
>
> I asked if the command was ghosted, I didn't say it was. I mentioned it as
> a way to eject the CD.
And you were tolds that if it were "ghosted" there'd be no way to open
the (nonexistent) drawer to insert the CD.
George Graves
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article <blvf8q$6la$1...@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca>,
> Kevin <nom...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > What?? Are you actually talking about a CD caddie??
> > >
> > > Oh my god - here I thought you just misunderstood the OP, but you
> > > actually
> > > thought he had a kind of CD reader that not only is ages old, but also
> > > hasn't
> > > been on any Mac, let alone a iMac.
> >
> > This particular neutral third party observer agrees, I think he thought
> > you guys were talking about caddy drives.
>
> Edwin does that alot - he misinterpretes something wildly and then draws
> advocacy conclusions from that and come back with what he thinks are neat
> points of PC advocacy, until he realises that he was wrong all along, which
> is
> when he'll be blakmikng others, backpeddaling and insult people.
Correct. He never seems to learn that all he has to do is say, "Oh, I'm
sorry, I misunderstood. Please ignore my earlier comments." And get on
with it. But he can't do that, for some reason. He has to backpedal,
lie, make it seem like he was saavy all the time and that we were the
ones who misunderstood, and finally, that the original poster didn't
actually say what he said, and that really he said what Edwin THOUGHT he
said. Edwin does, indeed, do this constantly and he always gets caught,
and he always loses. He'll do about two or three more of these before
declaring to the world that he's going away from CSMA, never to return.
George Graves
Edwin, the original poster CLEARLY stated that he had an iMac. He did
not say that he had an old 68K Mac from the early 90's which had a
cartridge loading CD drive. He also clearly stated that his iMac had a
SLOT-LOADING CD drive. How could you get so many facets of ONE post so
wrong in so many ways? And why do you continue to defend your reading
comprehension errors?
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
I don't really keep-up with PC models, but didn't the original E-machine
"iMac knock-off" have a slot loading CD?
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Pot. Kettle. Black
> PCs weren't coming with slot load CD drives in 1999.
I'm pretty sure the E-Machines iMac "knock-off" had slot loading CD and
perhaps a number Windows laptops as well.
Steve Mackay
I was wrong with the typo. However, I'm not wrong about the slot loads in
the Microns back in 1999. You can continue to claim it all you like, it wont
make it right.
>
> PCs weren't coming with slot load CD drives in 1999.
Tell that to the Micron sitting next to me.
George Graves
Snit <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote:
That was my reaction to his reply also. Not only was it mean-spirited
(no surprise coming from Edwin) but inappropriatly boastful -on several
levels. His profound lack of comprehension about the problem, the type
of computer you were using as well as the nature of your CD drive, even
though you explained each very succinctly, just points up the fact that
Edwin (a) did not read your problem past the point where you said you
were having a problem with a *Mac*, and (b) is only interested in
trolling. This latter is something that he vehemently denies, but the
proof is there for all to see.
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Snit made it very clear what it was in his original post, Edwin. You
missed it because you were so excited about the opportunity to make some
snide anti-Mac comment that you didn't really read what the problem was.
C'mon now, 'fess up!
Steve Mackay
> "Steve Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bKTgb.24835$832....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>> "David C. Fritzinger" <dfri...@nospam.hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in
>> message news:071020031833485844%dfri...@nospam.hotmail.nospam.com...
>>> In article <fELgb.16117$%C5....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "Steve
>>> Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:blv82a$g80e9$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:p7Fgb.12189$pg7....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
I'll admit how wrong I am, when I am wrong.
http://hardware.earthweb.com/news/article.php/2224301
Now admit how wrong you are.
>
> Edwin
Edwin
Okay, you're right. Stop shouting. :-) (hey wait a minute... is this
another PC advantage? Nah, I'll let it go...)
> > > So stop calling me by your name.
> > >
> > > In this case the use of the name is fully warranted.
> >
> > For yourself and Alan.
>
> How juvenile.
Thank you.
Edwin
Edwin
I agree.
[more issue evading and backpedaling by me]
Edwin
Edwin
Yes, that's true.
Edwin
Edwin
I haven't had that problem since I stopped eating peanut butter around my
PC...
Edwin
Edwin
> In article <bm1k43$hhh1e$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > news:BBA8A59A.298E4%snit-...@cableone.net...
> > > On 10/7/03 9:29 AM, in article
blupkm$gjgui$1...@ID-56786.news.uni-berlin.de,
> > > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Snit" <snit-...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:BBA835A9.29784%snit-...@cableone.net...
>
> You just told the original poster that his iMac was a fine machine.
That post was made after this one.
>Now which is it?
It's a fine machine.
>Or are the two Edwins fighting for dominance again?
"In the Age of Chaos, two factions battled for dominance..."
[snip]
Edwin
Sandman
> > Then why did you refer to a drawer that doesn't exist
>
> There's a carrier that you put the CD into.
No, there isn't such a "carrier" in a "slot loading" CD reader.
> I called it a drawer. Sue me.
You called something that does not exist a "drawer".
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Sandman[.net]
Edwin
I am so terribly wrong that I'm throwing out all my mirrors so I never have
to look myself in the eye again...
Edwin
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Then why the denials?
George Graves
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Good Boy. Now we can all be friends again - until the next time.
Sandman
>>> You Maccies must live under your own rules of judgment. So that
>>> means you're always making "wild assumptions, " and it's "hilarious"
>>> how often you're wrong. Also, none of you have any credibility.
>>> Sorry, these are your rules, not mine.
>>
>> Hehe, it cut you deep, didn't it? Didn't know what a slot-loading CD
>> reader was... Hehe. :)
>
> It's that I forgot, not that I didn't know.
Which would have been ok, if it wasn't for the fact that you tried to rub YOUR
misconception into our faces. Boy do you look foolish now. :)
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > Now take the time to fully admit how wrong you were.
> > >
> > > PCs weren't coming with slot load CD drives in 1999.
> >
> > I'll admit how wrong I am, when I am wrong.
> >
> > http://hardware.earthweb.com/news/article.php/2224301
> >
> > Now admit how wrong you are.
>
> I am so terribly wrong that I'm throwing out all my mirrors so I never have
> to look myself in the eye again...
"Damn, they caught me -I better start evacuation plan #34: make it all seem
like a big joke!"
--
Sandman[.net]
Edwin
Oh, I'm sorry, am I violating your copyrights?
Edwin
Edwin
I feel like a complete Sandman... like a total Jonas... :-D
Edwin
Edwin
Note the time difference between the disagreeing posts and the agreeing
posts.
Edwin
Edwin
So I shouldn't have stuck that in there... oh well, two Macs to take
apart... :-)
Edwin