"Ace" <a...@aimandfire.com> wrote in message
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> Hi - Vox Populi ©,
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:22:37 -0700, in us.military.army
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> > "Evil Arevir" <na...@statehospital.org> wrote in message
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> > > "- Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message
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> > > : "Jordan S. Bassior" <jsba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > > : > Vox Populi said:
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> > > : > >Gee, is that the policy of engagement now? Kill all captured or
> > > : > >surrendered POW's ...? Exterminate newly occupied societies
> > > : > >of possible future agitants?
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> > > : > >Where did you get such a barbaric policy idea ... Israel?
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> > > : > No, Israel never did anything like that.
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> > > : > First of all, _we_ are not executing these people. The new Afghan regime is
> > > : > doing so.
> > > :
> > > : Using/supporting agents or proxies to do what is criminal and illegal
> > > : is as unlawful as if one does the act(s) themselves.
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> > > Well said, you make our point perfectly that Osama, Taliban, and Al-Qaeda are
> > responsible for the
> > > 9/11 murders.
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> > The USA is responsible for it's own problems ...
> > "Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just"
> > - Thomas Jefferson Notes from Virginia
> >
> > US Foreign Interventions and Invasions since Vietnam
> >
> > Cuba 1963 - today - US blockades island for 39 years. Numerous assassination attempts
> > against leader. Continued actions condemned by Human Rights Groups and the United
Nations
> > General Assembly.
> >
> > Australia 1973-75 - CIA interferes and manipulates free election process.
> >
> > Chile 1973 - CIA backed coup ousts elected president, installs military Gen. Pinochet.
> > Decades of human rights abuses follow.
> >
> > Portugal 1974 - CIA funnels millions to destabilize and sabotage NATO ally.
> >
> > Angola 1976-92 - CIA assists South Africa-backed rebels.
> >
> > Afghanistan 1979-82 - US supports, arms, trains Mujahadeen rebels including rebel
leader
> > Osama Bin Laden.
> >
> > El Salvador 1980-92 - US aids government condemned for gross human rights violations.
> >
> > Nicaragua 1981-92 - US directs and illegally supports contra war, mines harbor. Allows
> > open flow of narcotics into US. US actions condemned by the United Nations World
Court.
> >
> > Chad 1982 - US supports overthrow of government. CIA supported secret police kill and
> > torture tens of thousands.
> >
> > Libya 1982 - USA shoots down 2 Libyan jets.
> >
> > Honduras 1982 -90 - US builds bases near borders, supports government that uses Death
> > Squads against it's citizens.
> >
> > Lebanon 1982-84 - US bombs and shells Muslim positions, expels PLO from territory.
> >
> > Grenada 1983-84 - US military invades tiny island. 400 Grenadians killed. "Gross
> > violation" of international law condemned by United Nations.
> >
> > Iraq 1987-88 - US supports and arms Saddam Hussein's Iraq in war against Iran.
> >
> > Iran 1988 - US shoots down Iranian passenger airliner, killing 290 civilians. Claims
it
> > was an "accident".
> >
> > Libya 1989 - US bombs capitol Tripoli killing 55 civilians. Calls it "collateral
damage".
> >
> > Philippines 1989 - US supports corrupt govt of Ferdinand Marcos against citizen
uprising.
> >
> > Panama 1989 - US invades with 27,000 soldiers. Kills 3000+ Panamanians, kidnaps it's
own
> > installed drug-dealing leader and CIA asset. Illegal US actions condemned by nearly
> > unanimous United Nations and Organization of American States.
> >
> > Kuwait 1991 - US invades Middle East, contradicting its position by intervening in
> > inter-Arab affairs. Returns Kuwaiti Monarchy accused of human right abuses to throne.
> >
> > Iraq 1990 - today - US randomly bombs civilian areas. Blockades Iraqi ports, allows no
> > humanitarian or medical aid. est. 10,000 Iraqi's starve/die monthly as result.
> >
> > Bulgaria 1991 - CIA funnels millions to destabilize one of the first freely elected
> > governments.
> >
> > Somalia 1992-94 - US sends in humanitarian aid. Becomes involved in Civil war, takes
sides
> > attacking one Mogadishu faction. Kills 500+ Somalis.
> >
> > Peru 1992 - 01 - US provides military support, millions of dollars to corrupt Fujimori
> > government. Drug kingpin Vladimir Montesino on CIA payroll while serving as
Intelligence
> > Chief. Involved directly in shooting down missionary aircraft, killing American woman
and
> > her infant child.
> >
> > Colombia 1992 - present - US supports Colombian military, heavily involved in drug
> > trafficking. 1,640 pounds of cocaine lands in Ft. Lauderdale Florida hidden inside
> > Colombian Air Force cargo plane. Nearly 20,000 people killed by US supported military
and
> > para-military so far.
> >
> > Bosnia 1993 - US naval blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
> >
> > Haiti 1994 - US blockades island government, CIA supports military coup to remove
elected
> > President Aristide, then forcibly re-installs Aristide as President after he agrees to
US
> > conditions of rule.
> >
> > Sudan 1998 - US bombs Aspirin Factory in Khartoum killing civilians.
> >
> > Afghanistan 1998 - US missiles kill 28 civilians
> >
> > Yugoslavia 1999 - US laser-guided bombs destroy Chinese Embassy in Belgrade killing
three
> > Chinese journalists.
> >
> > Afghanistan 2001 - ?
> >
> > US involvement in Foreign assassinations or attempts
> > -- prohibited by Presidential decree since 1976 --
> >
> > 1960 - General Abdul Karim Kassem, leader of Iraq
> > 1961 - Francois Duvalier, leader of Haiti
> > 1961 - Patrice Lumumba, Prime Minister of the Congo
> > 1961 - General Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic
> > 1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam
> > 1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba , numerous attempts
> > 1960s - Raul Castro, brother of Fidel.
> > 1965 - Francisco Caamano, Opposition leader, Dominican Republic
> > 1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France
> > 1967 - Ernesto Che Guevara, Cuban leader
> > 1970 - Salvador Allende, President of Chile
> > 1970 - General Rene Schneider, Commander of Chilean Army
> > 1970s, 81 - General Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama
> > 1972 - General Manuel Noriega, chief of Panama Intelligence
> > 1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire
> > 1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica
> > 1980-86 - Moammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya, numerous attempts
> > 1982 - Ayatollah Khomeine, leader of Iran
> > 1983 - General Ahmed Dlimi, Army commander of Morocco
> > 1983 - Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua
> > 1984 - All nine leaders of the Nicaraguan National Directorate
> > 1985 - Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanon Shiite leader
> > 1991 - Saddam Hussein, leader of Iraq
> > 1998 - Osama bin Laden, former US trained "freedom fighter".
> > 1999 - Slobodan Mlosevic, President of Yugoslavia
>
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> Don't forget the US funded IRA assassination attempt on former Prime
> Minister, Margaret Thatcher, at the Grand Hotel, Brighton.
Hadn't heard of the CIA connection ... have any background on that one?
Funny thing is, many Aussies deny or are blissfully ignorant of the US
screwing with their election process down there.
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> Best wishes, Ace
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> Winner of July's us.* thread of the month award.
> http://groups.google.com/groups?th=bb666680100d7e1,1
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:53:18 -0700, in uk.people.ex-forces
- Vox Populi © put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing...
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I don't know of any CIA involvement, but US involvement and funding of
the IRA is well documented.
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> Funny thing is, many Aussies deny or are blissfully ignorant of the US
> screwing with their election process down there.
The Queen of England wasn't much better: Her governor sacked the Prime
Minister and called the General Election in Australia. I don't know
how much pressure the US had put on him to sack the PM.
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> > Best wishes, Ace
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> > Winner of July's us.* thread of the month award.
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?th=bb666680100d7e1,1
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Best wishes, Ace
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Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
"Jordan S. Bassior" <jsba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Vox Populi said:
>
> >Using/supporting agents or proxies to do what is criminal and illegal
> >is as unlawful as if one does the act(s) themselves.
>
> You are acting under the assumption that we control the actions of the new
> Afghan regime down to the level of its individual squads and fireteams. That's
> simply not true -- and if it were a regime you saw as "radical," you'd be
> bitterly protesting our actions if we tried to control them to that degree.
>
> >> Secondly, our enemy lost its claim to treatment under the Geneva Convention
> >> when they murdered over 200 civilian prisoners taken in airplanes on 9/11.
> >
> >Do cite where in the Geneva Convention (or other) that allows such
> >selective application.
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> No convention is unilateral. If the other side chooses not to bind itself by
> the convention, then we have no responsibilities to them either.
Nice try, but your preposterous fabrication has zero legal standing.
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> >> So we are _not_ going to put too much pressure on the Northern Alliance to
> >play
> >> nice-nice with those murderous Taliban scum.
> >
> >What goes around, comes around.
> >
> >Has Sept 11 2001 faded so rapidly in your selective memory?
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> No, it hasn't.
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> That's why I'm glad to see Taliban dying like the swine they are.
>
> Your theory that if the Northern Alliance is mean to the Taliban the Taliban
> will "take it out on us later" is noted -- and rejected, as the enemy murdered
> thousands of Americans two months _before_ their shithole little empire
> collapsed.
And how many people, Muslims included, did the US murder/kill before the
retaliatory strike on Sept 11 2001?
Here's a small sample:
Afghanistan 2001 - ?
> --
> Sincerely Yours,
> Jordan
> --
"Jordan S. Bassior" <jsba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Vox Populi said:
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> >And how many people, Muslims included, did the US murder/kill before the
> >retaliatory strike on Sept 11 2001?
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> I know of no "retaliatory" strike on 9/11.
And your blind ignorance is noted ... as that of the rest of the US
Gov't which precipitated the retaliatory strike on 9.11.01