YAFPAAP: Swift (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha)
Michael Anthony Bayazes
Yet Another Foodless, Polyless, Atheist Ascension Post
After deciding that ascending a foodless atheist was nigh-impossible (and
the frustrating YASD last week), I decided to try a less strenuous
challenge, that is, ascending in as few turns as possible. So, I name my
character "Swift", as appropriate, and play an orcish wizard (I figured
the starting poison resistance and extra CON would help me go faster in
the beginning), with whatever starting inventory I got (more fun and more
honest than rolling for =RoSD's). One of these attempts would turn into
something much more...
I start the game and take a look at my starting inventory ... and, lo and
behold, there was not only a =RoSD, but a blessed ?SoEW, a
?SoEA, a /WoFire, and some water. Sheesh, the RNG loves to mock me
... tempt me to try again, even though it will only end in horrible
frustration ... the rational mind told me not to let it draw me in to its
trap, to preservere and just keep crazy #conduct out of the
picture... unforutnately, the irrational mind won out and I decided to go
for it, one last time... nevermind trying and failing on and off for five
months.
The irrational mind, it seems, is a better nethack player than I.
Since I was an orc, I only had 16 Int. Which meant that I
didn't have hungerless spellcasting. Which meant I had to use magic very,
very sparingly. I was able to enchant up my quarterstaff with the starting
?SoEW, so I had a decent weapon for the early game. I relied on this for
quite a long time, actually -- although the quarterstaff is an awful
weapon, it was better than anything else I could find...
The big breakthrough came when I found a /WoW on level 7 -- It was at
(0:2), and it gave me most of the usual suspects -- scrolls of charging,
boots of speed, SDSM, helm of brilliance (yes! I can cast spells
hungerless now!), Bag of Holding (I hate wishing for those, but I didn't
have -any- bags, and that was starting to make me nervous), and I wrested
the last wish to get a blessed book of identify. Ok, that last one might
not have been the wisest wish in the world, but Identify is -so-
convenient, and I probably wouldn't be able to get it any other way...
En route to medusa's level, I came across a blessed scroll of blank
paper. -Well-, now ... blessed blank paper -> blessed remove curse + 8
poitions of water + potion of booze -> holy water! (thanks to rgrn for
this trick) This allowed me to bless quite a few critical pieces of
equipment, and save plenty for scrolls n' such later.
Things started getting interesting at the castle. I used a ?SoEarth to
fill in the moat and blasted down the drawbridge; I fought off the castle
occupants from afar and cruised through without any particular trouble
... although, mind flayers still stalked the halls, so I didn't feel very
safe. I'd determined the location of the wand by elimination when I got
surprised by a MMF (I think it was actually a chamelon or other
shapeshifter, 'cause I hadn't seen it before) -- my helm of brilliance
blocked the attacks and I killed it with one of the -three- wands of death
I'd found on the castle level.
Castle wand was at 0:2 -- I got a pair of AoLS for the inevitable
starvation, a magic marker, a ring of levitation (I hate wishing for that,
too), and I saved the other wishes for later.
Well, it was about time to go on the quest, but first, I went to
minetown. Izchack only had 6 candles, but I did find two more cursed magic
lamps; one of them got me a magic marker, the other one decided to hang
around for permalight. I got to experience level 16 with the help of
experience to 14, a potion to 15, and a dishwasher to 16.
The quest was easy. I starved on the way there, but I had the AoLS for
that. The first starvation came on turn 17170 -- I'd expected to have a
bit longer than that, but I suppose casting spells in the early game had
sapped more nutrition than I'd thought ...
I found a 7th candle in the temple to moloch in the Valley of the
Dead. Sheesh, I never thought -Moloch- would do me any favors, athiest or
no. I used the wish I would have lost to that to get a potion of gain
level -- I wished for three, but didn't get them.
Gehennom was pretty methodical. I used /WoDig (later the spell of dig,
after I found the book) and the Magic Mapping spell to get through in
record time; Asmodeus escaped with a potion of gain level and I let him
go; the other major demons fell easily to the up/down trick or the /WoDig
in Jubilex's case. Finally used a wish for a cure sickness book (the
unihorn handled Juiblex, but I didn't feel safe without the spell...), got
my third AoLS from Vlad's Tower, and mapped to the VS level, which was 45.
I did the bell, book, and candle routine on turn 22295. Not bad time,
although I'd hoped for better...
22634 -- Picked up the AoY off of the charred remains of the high priest
of moloch. Sweeet. Now I just need to get out of here.
The dark force didn't interefere much. It kept me on the same level a few
times, but this didn't make things much harder. The wizard left me alone
for most of the ascent (after being a major pain en route to the sanctum)
too.
Asmodeus, however, did not. I'd completely forgotten that I'd left him
there. I was hungry again when I ran into him, so I was wearing an
AoLS, thankfully. I had -no- idea his frost attack could do -that- much
damage if you weren't cold resistant. He killed me faster than I could
blink, and I found myself at 42 hit points, hovering over the down-stairs
(darn! I can't go back down!) and without an equipped AoLS. I paused, look
around the room, and forced myself to breathe. I slipped a second AoLS
around my neck, realized I got a free move, and took off the ring of
levitation. More frost, but I survived. I engraved elbereth, dropped a
scroll of scare monster down the stairs, waited to heal a bit, and then
stepped down. Darn, I thought, the scroll didn't land on the stairs, I'll
just go kick it back over...
I got covered with more frost and killed before I realized my
mistake. Doh. There went the last AoLS. I hurried over to the scroll and
finally finished off Asmo. Note to self: find a ring of cold resistance
next time.
After that nightmare, I got back to the surface level without much
trouble. I stood on the lev. 1 stairs on turn 24467. I shuffled my
inventory around, realized I could get one last AoLS from my magic lamp,
which I no longer needed, and double checked to make sure I still had
Fred, the True Amulet of Yendor.
Earth was easy; air was hideous, drawing more charges of death ray than
I'd hoped. I got engulfed once and came close several more times, but no
near-death experiences thanks to my liberal use of finger of death and
/WoDeath (which I'd regret later). Fire was pathetic -- the portal was
only six or seven steps from where I started, and I didn't even see any
archons. Water was tedious -- it took an inordinately long amount of time
to find the portal.
And Astral was just wicked. With no telepathy, I didn't know ahead of time
which rider guarded which altar, so I had to charge blindly to glory and
hope I didn't meet famine. I did. Pestilence, too, although, not in that
order. By the time I made it to the second altar (also wrong), I'd
encountered a nigh-unhittable player-monster with frostbrand -- I was
getting awfully tired of cold attacks. I ran for it, nearly out of charges
of /WoTele and completely out of /WoDeath, bowled over death (he hurt me,
too, amazingly), and prepared for the trip to the last altar.
I managed to get down to just a few remaining
creatures, but got blinded, accidentally angered an Angel of Anhur by
attacking it whilst blind (it didn't show up on the warning meter), and
then angered the High Priest of Anhur with a poorly placed teleportation
strike ... I stumbled to the altar as the high priest slammed me for all
he was worth, blinded me, and dropped me to 27 hit points (I came so close
to dying -on the high altar to my god- that is wasn't funny); and I
#offered the amulet over protests of the high priest, angel, and assorted
clergy who were all trying to kill me on the very next turn. I don't think
you can get more atheistic than that ...
So:
Swift the Enchanter St:25 Dx:18 Co:18 In:21 Wi:19 Ch:16 Chaotic
Astral Plane $:0 HP:27(168) Pw:108(190) AC:-25 Xp:17/1089715 T:25205
Blind
Amulets
a - an uncursed amulet of reflection
l - the blessed Eye of the Aethiopica
Weapons
i - a +0 silver saber
n - a cursed +7 silver saber (weapon in hand)
x - a +6 elven dagger (wielded in other hand)
Armor
/*I forgot to wish for fooproof stuff and lived to regret it...*/
b - a blessed thoroughly burnt +3 cloak of magic resistance (being worn)
w - an uncursed +5 Hawaiian shirt (being worn)
D - a blessed thoroughly burnt +4 pair of speed boots (being worn)
E - an uncursed +5 silver dragon scale mail (being worn)
F - a blessed thoroughly rusty corroded +5 helm of brilliance (being
worn)
Y - a blessed thoroughly rusty +4 pair of gauntlets of power (being worn)
Spellbooks
L - the cursed Book of the Dead
Rings
e - a cursed ring of slow digestion (on right hand)
O - an uncursed ring of levitation
Wands
d - a wand of enlightenment (0:2) /*incredibly useful!*/
<snip many wands>
u - a wand of teleportation (0:0)
C - a wand of death (1:0)
M - a wand of teleportation (0:2)
N - a cursed wand of death (1:0)
P - a wand of teleportation (0:1)
Q - a wand of death (0:0)
Tools
g - a blessed magic marker (1:5)
k - an uncursed blindfold
p - the cursed Bell of Opening (0:2)
q - a magic marker (1:7)
s - a blessed +0 unicorn horn
v - the uncursed Candelabrum of Invocation (no candles attached)
I - a blessed bag of holding
X - an uncursed skeleton key
Z - a blessed oil lamp
(selected) Contents of the bag of holding:
an uncursed +3 ring of protection
a blessed spellbook of finger of death
an uncursed scroll of genocide /*just in case...*/
a blessed magic marker (1:0)
a cursed scroll of blank paper
a blessed scroll of genocide
a cursed wand of death (0:5) /*darn, I had overlooked this one...*/
a blessed +5 quarterstaff /*it served me well, so it deserved to come
along*/
an uncursed lizard corpse /*for good luck*/
a blessed spellbook of identify
an uncursed ring of teleportation /*never got to use it...*/
a potion of unholy water /*last one...*/
Final Attributes:
/*the list sure looks ... short, yes? This is really all of it.*/
You were piously aligned.
You were poison resistant. /*instead of sleep resistant ... I think poison
res saved me more than sleep res would have*/
You were magic-protected.
You were blinded.
You saw invisible.
You were warned.
You had infravision.
You were invisible to others.
You had teleport control.
You had slower digestion.
You were very fast.
You had reflection.
You were wielding two weapons at once.
You survived after being killed 4 times. /*starvation, asmo, asmo, and the
astral*/
(Selected) Vanquished creatures:
Asmodeus /*bring a ring of cold resistance!*/
Baalzebub
Orcus
Juiblex
The Wizard of Yendor (7 times) /*I hate him ... */
Death
Pestilence (5 times) /*which is about six times too many*/
Famine /*thank goodness he didn't touch me...*/
a high priest /*of moloch, of course.*/
Medusa
3 storm giants
a titan
The Dark One
13 Angels
Vlad the Impaler
3 Nazguls /*I killed them before I discovered whether or not you
can reflect their sleep attack.*/
30 aligned priests /*mostly on the astral*/
2 cavewomen
a knight
a priestess
a mind flayer /*so it really was a mind flayer?*/
39 wraiths /*and about 30 corpses, it seemed like. Sheesh, only when
you're playing foodless...*/
61 soldiers
2 gray unicorns /*only saw 3 uni's the whole game. Didn't get a horn until
after I'd been to the castle.*/
a black unicorn
a grid bug /*yes, just -one- grid bug! lowest single kill.*/
2 newts /*almost! Dang it ... I'll make newts the LSK one day!*/
1598 creatures vanquished.
Genocided species:
chickatrices
cockatrices /*didn't want to have to eat a lizard if I got whacked...*/
pyrolisks /*no fire resistance ... */
hobbits
dwarves
bugbears
dwarf lords
dwarf kings
mind flayers
master mind flayers
liches
demiliches
master liches /*asmodeus was enough!*/
arch-liches
jellyfish
piranhas
sharks
giant eels
electric eels
krakens
Voluntary challenges:
You went without food.
You were an atheist. /*boo-yah! It -is- possible! */
You genocided 20 types of monsters.
You never polymorphed an object.
You never changed form. /*hadn't actually planned on polyless...*/
You used 15 wishes. /*ok, that's embarassingly high...*/
You did not wish for any artifacts. /*...but at least I retained a shred
of wishing dignity*/
Goodbye Swift the Demigod...
/*needless to say, I didn't once think of score the whole game.*/
You went to your reward with 4363192 points,
The Eye of the Aethiopica (worth 15000 zorkmids and 37500 points)
Bell of Opening (worth 100000 zorkmids and 250000 points)
Candelabrum of Invocation (worth 300000 zorkmids and 750000 points)
Book of the Dead (worth 350000 zorkmids and 875000 points)
1 amulet of ESP (worth 150 zorkmids),
1 amulet of reflection (worth 150 zorkmids),
and 0 pieces of gold, after 25205 moves.
You were level 17 with a maximum of 168 hit points when you ascended.
Jacco
>
> Yet Another Foodless, Polyless, Atheist Ascension Post
>
> You went without food.
> You were an atheist. /*boo-yah! It -is- possible! */
> You genocided 20 types of monsters.
> You never polymorphed an object.
> You never changed form. /*hadn't actually planned on polyless...*/
> You used 15 wishes. /*ok, that's embarassingly high...*/
> You did not wish for any artifacts. /*...but at least I retained a shred
> of wishing dignity*/
WOW
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Peter Backgren
says...
> Yet Another Foodless, Polyless, Atheist Ascension Post
Yeah, yeah :-)
> The big breakthrough came when I found a /WoW on level 7 -- It was at
Hmm, and since you didn't just use this to poly yourself into something
that doesn't eat (=oSD slot usable for something else)... Not that bad.
Personally I hate finding /oW's when doing (most) conducts though.
> Castle wand was at 0:2 -- I got a pair of AoLS for the inevitable
> starvation, a magic marker, a ring of levitation (I hate wishing for that,
> too), and I saved the other wishes for later.
Accepting starvation... never thought of that. Then again, how often do
I have enough wishes to wish for spare amulets?
> The quest was easy. I starved on the way there, but I had the AoLS for
> that. The first starvation came on turn 17170 -- I'd expected to have a
> bit longer than that, but I suppose casting spells in the early game had
> sapped more nutrition than I'd thought ...
So what did you use nutrition on then? Rings? Doesn't foodless allowe
you to quaff certain potions that could help quite a lot if you have
enough of them?
> my third AoLS from Vlad's Tower, and mapped to the VS level, which was 45.
That's high up.
> I did the bell, book, and candle routine on turn 22295. Not bad time,
> although I'd hoped for better...
Quite fast although I understand your desire to go fast :-)
> Asmodeus, however, did not. I'd completely forgotten that I'd left him
> there. I was hungry again when I ran into him, so I was wearing an
> AoLS, thankfully. I had -no- idea his frost attack could do -that- much
> damage if you weren't cold resistant. He killed me faster than I could
>...
> finally finished off Asmo. Note to self: find a ring of cold resistance
> next time.
Which brings me to the question... fire resistance? Didn't see a ring in
your inventory (no mentioning of using anything either). Character
check... wiz doesn't get fire resistance for free (memory failing
possibility). Not the quest artifact either. Hmm. Ok, maybe you had a
ring and dropped it. Or more likely, I'm missing something really easy
in my thinking. I just don't believe you ignored it and just hit a few
fire traps in Gehennom just for fun (would explain low max HP though).
> he was worth, blinded me, and dropped me to 27 hit points (I came so close
> to dying -on the high altar to my god- that is wasn't funny); and I
Horrible...
> #offered the amulet over protests of the high priest, angel, and assorted
> clergy who were all trying to kill me on the very next turn. I don't think
> you can get more atheistic than that ...
Visit all three altars to show you can do it, then offer at the wrong
altar? Wonder if the points for style would be as high as the ascension
reward?
> Swift the Enchanter St:25 Dx:18 Co:18 In:21 Wi:19 Ch:16 Chaotic
> Astral Plane $:0 HP:27(168) Pw:108(190) AC:-25 Xp:17/1089715 T:25205
Rather low HP (fast play, ok).
> /*the list sure looks ... short, yes? This is really all of it.*/
>
> You were piously aligned.
> You were poison resistant. /*instead of sleep resistant ... I think poison
> res saved me more than sleep res would have*/
Were you hit with sleep a few times? I would assume you used amulet
reflection most of the time.
No luck at all on that list. Shouldn't it always show up, luckstone or
not?
> pyrolisks /*no fire resistance ... */
Oh, I thought this meant you couldn't get fire res but I guess it means
you went all the way without fire res. Ungh. Even with magic mapping and
TC, ungh.
> Voluntary challenges:
>
> You went without food.
> You were an atheist. /*boo-yah! It -is- possible! */
> You never polymorphed an object.
> You never changed form. /*hadn't actually planned on polyless...*/
Amazing... I've always planned to go foodless using my God for help.
Hmm, ok, I've planned to go without being killed once so going atheist
would probably be too hard. Maybe with 103 potions of fruit juice?
> You used 15 wishes. /*ok, that's embarassingly high...*/
Well, yes :-). But lets see now, we'll take the conducts into one hand
and the embarrasment into another and what do we get?
embarrassing high amount of wishes
/
/
SCALE
/
/
conducts
Hmm, almost offscale this one :-)
> You went to your reward with 4363192 points,
Congratulations... impressive.
Eskimo
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Jules Bean
Michael Anthony Bayazes wrote:
> I found a 7th candle in the temple to moloch in the Valley of the
> Dead. Sheesh, I never thought -Moloch- would do me any favors, athiest or
> no. I used the wish I would have lost to that to get a potion of gain
> level -- I wished for three, but didn't get them.
Wish for !oGL? As a wizard? Weird! As a wizard, I get all the levels I
need from dishwashers; why waste a wish?
Jules
Darshan Shaligram
> Yet Another Foodless, Polyless, Atheist Ascension Post
Dear God.
[snip story of ascension]
> Voluntary challenges:
>
> You went without food.
> You were an atheist. /*boo-yah! It -is- possible! */
That's simply amazing. Congratulations.
> Goodbye Swift the Demigod...
How about a pacifist next?
Darshan
Michael Anthony Bayazes
Peter Backgren <peter.b...@absolutelynospam.ericsson.fi> wrote:
> Hmm, and since you didn't just use this to poly yourself into something
> that doesn't eat (=oSD slot usable for something else)... Not that bad.
> Personally I hate finding /oW's when doing (most) conducts though.
My first ever random /WoW came when I was trying to go wishless,
appropriately enough. That was the second one I've ever found, and it was
very welcome. I already had a =RoPoly, but I don't like polymorphing, as
it messes up your stats/levels and keeps you from improving your stats.
>> Castle wand was at 0:2 -- I got a pair of AoLS for the inevitable
>> starvation, a magic marker, a ring of levitation (I hate wishing for that,
>> too), and I saved the other wishes for later.
> Accepting starvation... never thought of that. Then again, how often do
> I have enough wishes to wish for spare amulets?
I actually only starved once; my other three deaths would have been
avoidable. Had I done the game about 2000 turns quicker, been more sparing
with the use of the =RoLevitation, and been more careful in battle, I
could have made it with just Vlad's amulet.
That said, you won't be seing a wishless, atheist, foodless ascension from
me, at least, not anytime soon.
> So what did you use nutrition on then? Rings? Doesn't foodless allowe
> you to quaff certain potions that could help quite a lot if you have
> enough of them?
The =RoSD takes 1 nutrition per 20 turns. I was very careful never to wear
any other rings or amulets [other than the AoLS when I knew I was about
to die], and stayed far away from regeneration and conflict.
>> my third AoLS from Vlad's Tower, and mapped to the VS level, which was 45.
> That's high up.
Highest I've ever seen it ... I think that might be the highest
possible. Four more castings of magic map and a few more castings of dig
wouldn't have mattered much, in any event.
>> I did the bell, book, and candle routine on turn 22295. Not bad time,
>> although I'd hoped for better...
> Quite fast although I understand your desire to go fast :-)
I had wanted to ascend in under 20k turns; maybe next time. *smiles*
> Which brings me to the question... fire resistance? Didn't see a ring in
> your inventory (no mentioning of using anything either). Character
I never wore a ring other than levitation and slow digestion. I -did- have
a =RoFireRes, but I never wore it (I just took the fire traps like a
man); I did not have a =RoColdRes or I would have used it against Asmo.
>> Swift the Enchanter St:25 Dx:18 Co:18 In:21 Wi:19 Ch:16 Chaotic
>> Astral Plane $:0 HP:27(168) Pw:108(190) AC:-25 Xp:17/1089715 T:25205
> Rather low HP (fast play, ok).
Fire traps. *shivers* Only being level 17 didn't help.
> Were you hit with sleep a few times? I would assume you used amulet
> reflection most of the time.
Mostly sleep gas traps. Fortunately, that never happened when monsters
were around.
> No luck at all on that list. Shouldn't it always show up, luckstone or
> not?
I did not have a luckstone, and I had exactly 0 luck for most of the
game. "You had no particular luck" isn't an intrinsic. *smiles* I -could-
have wished for or trudged to the bottom of the mines for a luckstone, but
I didn't want to waste that much time.
> Amazing... I've always planned to go foodless using my God for help.
> Hmm, ok, I've planned to go without being killed once so going atheist
> would probably be too hard. Maybe with 103 potions of fruit juice?
Especially since there's so many ways to get juice. You can cancel a
variety of potions into it, I think the unihorn will cancel a few more to
juice, and you can always polypile for any one of those potions ...
> Congratulations... impressive.
Thank you very much.
Anthony.
Michael Anthony Bayazes
> Congrats! Awesome...
Thank you very much.
> Michael Anthony Bayazes wrote:
There was only one sink and thus only one dishwasher. I got one level from
her, but then accidentally killed her with a silver saber accident. Every
other succubus I saw (all, like, 2 of them) were surrounded by monsters
that would have ripped me to shreds were I naked, so I had to take them
out with impunity.
Anthony.
David Goldfarb
Michael Anthony Bayazes <gte...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
>Especially since there's so many ways to get juice. You can cancel a
>variety of potions into it, I think the unihorn will cancel a few more to
>juice, and you can always polypile for any one of those potions ...
Actually, only see invisible cancels to fruit juice. Unicorn horn
will turn sickness into fruit juice, and an amethyst will turn booze
into fruit juice. So not *all* that easy to come by.
--
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gold...@ocf.berkeley.edu |through compulsive science fiction reading and the
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|and irrelevant somehow strikes me as borderline."
| -- Edwin Thorpe
Kate Nepveu
*yawn*
Oh, _another_ one?
(Congratulations!)
[...]
> Asmodeus, however, did not. I'd completely forgotten that I'd left him
> there. I was hungry again when I ran into him, so I was wearing an
> AoLS, thankfully. I had -no- idea his frost attack could do -that- much
> damage if you weren't cold resistant.
I found this out once--now I forget when, though. Yeah, it's _scary_.
[...]
> And Astral was just wicked. With no telepathy, I didn't know ahead of time
> which rider guarded which altar, so I had to charge blindly to glory and
> hope I didn't meet famine. I did. Pestilence, too, although, not in that
> order. By the time I made it to the second altar (also wrong), I'd
> encountered a nigh-unhittable player-monster with frostbrand -- I was
> getting awfully tired of cold attacks.
Oh, no. I've heard people talk about canceling adventurers for their AC;
does this really work, and was it an option?
[...]
> strike ... I stumbled to the altar as the high priest slammed me for all
> he was worth, blinded me, and dropped me to 27 hit points (I came so close
> to dying -on the high altar to my god- that is wasn't funny); and I
> #offered the amulet over protests of the high priest, angel, and assorted
> clergy who were all trying to kill me on the very next turn. I don't think
> you can get more atheistic than that ...
Probably not.
> So:
> Swift the Enchanter St:25 Dx:18 Co:18 In:21 Wi:19 Ch:16 Chaotic
> Astral Plane $:0 HP:27(168) Pw:108(190) AC:-25 Xp:17/1089715 T:25205
^^^^^^^^^
Owww. Fire traps, I see.
> Amulets
> a - an uncursed amulet of reflection
Did you burn the last AoLS and not put this back on?
[...]
> Final Attributes:
> /*the list sure looks ... short, yes? This is really all of it.*/
> You were piously aligned.
> You were poison resistant. /*instead of sleep resistant ... I think poison
> res saved me more than sleep res would have*/
Hmmm. Seems like a tough call to me--poison's a chance of an insta-kill,
but once you have a unicorn horn, whereas getting zapped by sleep rays
and pounded on... I don't know.
[...]
> 39 wraiths /*and about 30 corpses, it seemed like. Sheesh, only when
> you're playing foodless...*/
Or veggie, yes indeed.
[...]
> Voluntary challenges:
> You went without food.
> You were an atheist. /*boo-yah! It -is- possible! */
> You genocided 20 types of monsters.
> You never polymorphed an object.
> You never changed form. /*hadn't actually planned on polyless...*/
> You used 15 wishes. /*ok, that's embarassingly high...*/
> You did not wish for any artifacts. /*...but at least I retained a shred
> of wishing dignity*/
I just wanted to see those all again...
Congratulations!
Kate
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--Ralph Waldo Emerson
Michael Anthony Bayazes
> Oh, no. I've heard people talk about canceling adventurers for their AC;
> does this really work, and was it an option?
I didn't try. I screamed like a baby and hid in the corner, just like it
says in the (imaginary) Complete Guide to Nethack Strategy and Tactics.
I never saw a wand of cancellation, in any event.
>> Amulets
>> a - an uncursed amulet of reflection
> Did you burn the last AoLS and not put this back on?
No, I was wearing SDSM. No sense burning food with the amulet. I was
carrying it around because it looked nice in the amulets slot (actually, I
didn't really have a reason to carry it, but I found it random generated
and I just couldn't bring myself to leave it behind...)
> Hmmm. Seems like a tough call to me--poison's a chance of an insta-kill,
> but once you have a unicorn horn, whereas getting zapped by sleep rays
> and pounded on... I don't know.
Sleep rays reflect. Many forms of poison do not. The only time I actually
got put to sleep was with the sleep gas traps; for this reason, I ignored
chests in any area where monsters were prolific, like the valley of the
dead.
The main advantage of elves over orcs for this #conduct is that elves can
(and usually) start with enough Int for hungerless spellcasting. I hadn't
actually -intended- to try for this when I started the game, which is why
I was an orc. In hindsight, though, I think it might have been the better
choice. It's just too easy for a stray poison dart to equal YAUD ...
Anthony.
nyra
>
> Yet Another Foodless, Polyless, Atheist Ascension Post
Hell's Bells! That's _incredible_! Congratulations!
> After deciding that ascending a foodless atheist was nigh-impossible
I think that anyone other than a wizard with the proper sort of
ring doesn't really stand a chance.
> The quest was easy. I starved on the way there, but I had the AoLS for
> that. The first starvation came on turn 17170
Without the ring, this would've been turn 858 :)
> 22634 -- Picked up the AoY off of the charred remains of the high priest
> of moloch.
>From before the quest to the amulet in slightly less than 5500
turns. Pretty fast, i should think.
> Asmodeus, however, did not. I'd completely forgotten that I'd left him
> there. I was hungry again when I ran into him, so I was wearing an
> AoLS, thankfully. I had -no- idea his frost attack could do -that- much
> damage if you weren't cold resistant.
Was a nice surprise for me, too, when i met him with an atheist
vegan samurai; and in that game i never put on an amulet of life
saving...
> Note to self: find a ring of cold resistance
> next time.
Ermmmm... You're planning to do this _again_??
> And Astral was just wicked. With no telepathy, I didn't know ahead of time
> which rider guarded which altar,
Ouch. No spell of detect monsters? And why didn't you put on the
Eye of the Aethiopica?
> Rings
> e - a cursed ring of slow digestion (on right hand)
> O - an uncursed ring of levitation
No other rings? Playing an orc, you didn't need a worn source of
poison resistance, but fire and cold resist would have been
useful in Gehennom and when facing Asmodi; unfortunately, they
also consume food...
> Final Attributes:
>
> /*the list sure looks ... short, yes? This is really all of it.*/
>
> You were piously aligned.
> You were poison resistant. /*instead of sleep resistant ... I think poison
> res saved me more than sleep res would have*/
Without sleep resistance, sleep traps are rather annoying, but
as long as you have reflection, wands of sleep and sleep breath
are harmless. Poison can kill all by itself. If a character of
mine got killed by a "The poison was deadly..." orcish arrow on
the way back up with the amulet, my monitor would likely suffer.
> You were magic-protected.
> You were blinded.
> You saw invisible.
> You were warned.
> You had infravision.
> You were invisible to others.
> You had teleport control.
> You had slower digestion.
> You were very fast.
> You had reflection.
> You were wielding two weapons at once.
> You survived after being killed 4 times. /*starvation, asmo, asmo, and the
> astral*/
I had a winner who had as "personal" intrinsics (not granted by
equipment or inventory) the following:
You were piously aligned.
You saw invisible.
You were invisible to others.
You were stealthy.
You were wielding two weapons at once.
You were extremely lucky.
You survived.
Equipment added magic, sleep, fire and poison resistance, very
fast, telepathy and reflection. Inventory added extra luck and
no timeout on luck. Food restrictions make for short intrinsic
lists.
> Asmodeus /*bring a ring of cold resistance!*/
Or Frostbrand or a white DSM. Or a pet purple worm + ring of
conflict. Or a few gold pieces.
> a high priest /*of moloch, of course.*/
Shouldn't a proper atheist try to kill _all_ of them? ;)
> pyrolisks /*no fire resistance ... */
Fire traps must have been a nightmare...
> You went without food.
> You were an atheist. /*boo-yah! It -is- possible! */
Most impressive. I would have thought it impossible.
David Goldfarb
>Equipment added magic, sleep, fire and poison resistance, very
>fast, telepathy and reflection.
What equipment gives sleep resistance?
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nyra
>
> In article <3BC460F6...@gmx.net>, nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >Equipment added magic, sleep, fire and poison resistance, very
> >fast, telepathy and reflection.
>
> What equipment gives sleep resistance?
Guess ;)
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Orange Dragon Scale Mail: conveys sleep resistance when worn.
I'm not aware of any other item that does. Even with a ring of
free action, gas traps will still put you to sleep.
Dylan O'Donnell
Well, orange dragon scales do, but that's probably not much use to
you :-) Otherwise, only available as an intrinsic (eating, polyself),
not an extrinsic.
> Even with a ring of
> free action, gas traps will still put you to sleep.
Right. In general, most sleep-infliction methods are not considered
paralysis-infliction that free action would protect against; potions
of sleeping are an exception.
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Tina Hall
> In article <3BC460F6...@gmx.net>, nyra <ny...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
> >Equipment added magic, sleep, fire and poison
> >resistance, very fast, telepathy and reflection.
>
> What equipment gives sleep resistance?
Orange dragon scale mail / scales.
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Bye
Tina
There was a cure after all, fortunately I found a remedy.
Nathan F Russell
>In article <3BC460F6...@gmx.net>, nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>Equipment added magic, sleep, fire and poison resistance, very
>>fast, telepathy and reflection.
>
>What equipment gives sleep resistance?
OSDM, presumably homemade.
Nathan