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Christiane Kroeber

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Jun 19, 2001, 4:23:47 PM6/19/01
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hi,

(first: sorry for my english, but this english newsgroup is my last hope for
a source)

i'm looking for the original source for a quote, that might be translated:

"prognoses are always difficult. especially concerning the future."

do's anybody know it's origin?

thank you,
chris.


Frank Lynch

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Jun 19, 2001, 10:41:52 PM6/19/01
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I can't say for sure, but I think I've seen something very similar
attributed to President George W Bush.

Frank Lynch

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Sam Hobbs

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Jun 19, 2001, 11:43:44 PM6/19/01
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:23:47 +0200, "Christiane Kroeber"
<kro...@urz.uni-hd.de> wrote:

I have heard it as:

Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future
--- Niels Bohr

Niels Bohr is far better known for his physics than for his
malapropisms.

Regards,
Sam

Walter

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Jun 20, 2001, 1:03:22 AM6/20/01
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I think it's more a pun, a humorous play on words, than a quote. It seems
unlikely that a serious person would like to see himself associated himself
with such obvious nonsense. Well, maybe George Bush....


Walter
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Christiane Kroeber

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Jun 20, 2001, 4:52:51 AM6/20/01
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> > I have heard it as:
> >
> > Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future
> > --- Niels Bohr
> >
> > Niels Bohr is far better known for his physics than for his
> > malapropisms.

Thank you. This was, what i was looking for...


John Cronin

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Jun 20, 2001, 6:08:06 AM6/20/01
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Along the same lines, I saw this one attributed to the king of the malapropism,
Yogi Berra.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future."

--------
John

"Between the ages of twenty and forty we are engaged in the process of
discovering who we are, which involves learning the difference between
accidental limitations which it is our duty to outgrow and the necessary
limitations of our nature beyond which we cannot trespass with impunity."
--W. H. Auden, _The Dyer's Hand_, 1963

yodasmom

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Jun 20, 2001, 8:34:39 AM6/20/01
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You can observe a lot just by watching.

Yogi Berra.

Renee

P.S. Do you think Yogi *really* said so many incredible things???

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Sam Hobbs

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Jun 20, 2001, 8:34:09 AM6/20/01
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:08:06 GMT, John Cronin <jtcr...@home.com>
wrote:

>Along the same lines, I saw this one attributed to the king of the malapropism,
>Yogi Berra.
>
>"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future."
>

I have also seen it attributed to Yogi, but I think the attribution to
Bohr is more accurate. Incidentally the FAQ index page at:

http://www.mindspring.com/~samhobbs/alt-quotations/

has a couple of sections on malapropisms on the "Quotations" page:

Malapropisms - Yogi Berra

Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra (b. 1925), now retired, was a very
talented professional baseball player and manager. He developed a
reputation for having quick one-line comebacks to interviews, often
with an inappropriate twist. He is, in addition to his baseball
skills, one of the two acknowledged world's champion malapropists (to
coin a term). The lines listed below are a fair sampling but certainly
are not exhaustive of the kinds of things Yogi is said to have said:

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

It's deja vu all over again.

Never answer an anonymous letter.

Always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't go to
yours.

Baseball is 90 percent mental; the other half is physical.

I usually take a two hour nap from one to four.

Why buy good luggage? You only use it when you travel.

Explaining why he wouldn't go to a certain restaurant: No one goes
there anymore - it's too crowded.

Mantle can hit just as good right-handed as he can left-handed. He's
just naturally amphibious.

When asked what time it is: Do you mean now?

For a spring training drill, Yogi instructed his players to: Pair off
in threes.

90 percent of putts that are short don't go in.

When watching a Steve McQueen movie on TV: He must have made that
before he died.

You can see a lot just by observing.

After a waitress asked if Yogi wanted his pizza cut into four or eight
slices: Four, I don't think I can eat eight.

When someone told Yogi he was foolish for buying a lot of insurance,
and asked what good all that money would do him, Yogi replied: I will
get it when I die.

Yogi's explanation for missing a ball in the sun: It gets late early
out there.

If people don't want to come out to the ball park, nobody's gonna stop
'em.

A nickel isn't worth a dime anymore.

You gotta be careful if you don't know where you're going, otherwise
you might not get there.

We're lost, but we're making good time.

If you ask me a question I don't know, I'm not going to answer it.

I wish I had an answer to that, because I'm tired of answering that
question.

Yogi called the 1969 New York Mets: overwhelming underdogs.

After attending an opera, Yogi mentioned that he liked it, and added:
Even the music was nice.

Baseball aint like football...you can't make up any trick plays.

If you can't imitate him, don't copy him.

Reporter: What would you do if you found a million dollars?
Yogi: If the guy was poor, I would give it back.

The future ain't what it used to be.

When someone apologized for waking Yogi with a late night call, he
replied: It's OK, I had to get up to answer the phone anyway.
--- invented by a sportswriter, but not denied by Yogi

Amplifying on the things improperly attributed to him, Yogi said: I
never really said all those things I said.

Yogi's son, also a professional baseball player, is reputed to have
said: The similarities between me and my father are different.
--- Dale Berra

Sam Hobbs

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Jun 20, 2001, 8:37:46 AM6/20/01
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On 20 Jun 2001 05:34:39 -0700, ren...@meginc.com (yodasmom) wrote:

>You can observe a lot just by watching.
>
>Yogi Berra.
>
>Renee
>
>P.S. Do you think Yogi *really* said so many incredible things???
>

Probably not really, but he did say many of them. Some limited mention
of this in the FAQ, see my malapropism post in an alternate thread.

Sam

Novicki, Edward [PGC:1913:EXCH]

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Jun 20, 2001, 10:13:16 AM6/20/01
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>
>
> P.S. Do you think Yogi *really* said so many incredible things???

About a year ago I saw an interview of him in which he was asked about many of the
quotes. Put into the proper context they were fine. For example when he said "When you
come to a fork in the road, take it." he was giving directions to his house. Since he
lived on a cul-de-sac, whichever way you turned would get you to his house. There were a
lot more that were explained, but I don't remember them right now.

Obquote:

"If you don't pray when you're winning, don't pray when you're losing"
Satchel Paige

William C Waterhouse

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Jun 20, 2001, 4:57:32 PM6/20/01
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In article <3b301ab1...@news.mindspring.com>,
samh...@mindspring.com (Sam Hobbs) writes:
> I have heard it as:
>
> Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future
> --- Niels Bohr
>
> Niels Bohr is far better known for his physics than for his
> malapropisms.

Certainly most sources ascribe it to Bohr, though apparently always
as a saying, not anything written.

It is a much better joke when spoken by a scientist, because
there is a secondary use of "predict" in science:

b. transf. Of a theory, observation, etc.: to have as a deducible
or inferable consequence; to imply. (OED)

Here, plucked from the web, is a particularly suitable example:

The physicist Niels Bohr, founding father of quantum mechanics,
synthesized all these separate facts into a coherent picture of
the atom in which the electron orbits were quantized into
stationary states and exchange energy with the electromagnetic
field in discrete energy packets called photons. His theory
predicted the spectrum of singly ionized Helium which corresponded
exactly to the Pickering line series.
-- <http://home.achilles.net/~jtalbot/spectra/ProtoHydrogen.html>

The Pickering lines as such were already known (though not well
understood) at the time of Bohr's work.

William C. Waterhouse
Penn State

ObQuote:

Who can gaze on thee, thou city!--
Nor predict thy future state?
Throned on earth's most glorious ocean,
Like the greatest of the great.

---- Emmeline Stuart-Wortley, "Lines on San Francisco", 9-12.

Stevo123

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Jun 21, 2001, 12:23:27 AM6/21/01
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"It is always wise to look ahead, but difficult to look farther than you can
see." Winston Churchill


--
Steve Allen

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