CMLL Lucha Libre results
Dave Fields
Mexico City, D.F.
Popularity rankings for the week:
Faces Heels Women Midgets
----- ----- ----- -------
1 - Octagon Brazo de Plata Lady Apache Octagoncito
2 - Vampiro Canadiense Blue Panther Martha Villalobos Mascarita
Sagrada
6-Man Tag Team
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1 - Los Infernales
2 - Los Intocables
Revelation: El Filoso (as predicted).
Move of the week: From an untelevised match, Oro (from Los Metallicos)
does a really spectacular back flip plancha from the top turnbuckle
onto Comando Ruso on the arena floor.
A quick remark: These matches are frequently characterized by very
stiff work. In other words, many of the kicks, punches, and plancha
dives are just a hair this side of the real thing. This card was filled
with stiff work.
Results:
First Match:
Pequen~o Pierroth (masked - Mexico) and Espectrito (masked - Mexico)
(heels) vs. Octagoncito (masked - Mexico) and Mascarita Sagrada (masked
- Mexico) (faces); Rafael Almaya and Gato Montini (referees); heels win
2/3 falls. ****
A really action-packed midget match. Usually these things aren't my cup
of tea, but this was an excellent match.
First Fall: Espectrito pins Mascarita Sagrada with a small package.
Second Fall: Octagoncito pins Espectrito with a modified sunset flip
from the second rope after a great front flip plancha from the apron by
Mascarita Sagrada onto Pequen~o Pierroth.
Third Fall: Pequen~o Pierroth pins Octagoncito as Espectrito power
bombs the bejesus out of Mascarita Sagrada 3 or 4 times.
Second Match: Emilio Charles, Jr. (Mexico), Pierroth, Jr. (masked -
Mexico), and Jerry Estrada (Mexico) (heels) vs. Mascara Sagrada (masked
- Mexico), Lizmark (masked - Mexico), and Octagon (masked - Mexico);
Rafael Almaya and Gato Montini (referees); faces win 2/3 falls. ****
First Fall: Octagon pins Emilio Charles after a flying head butt from
the second rope. Lots of action in this fall.
Second Fall: Pierroth, who is hardway juiciing under his mask, pins
Mascara Sagrada.
Third Fall: Mascara Sagrada gets Pierroth to submit to a modified
abdominal stretch, called "una swastika" by the announcers.
Third Match:
Mascara An~o 2000 (masked - Mexico), Cien Caras (Mexico), and Sangre
Chicana (California - USA) (heels) vs. El Rayo de Jalisco, Jr. (masked
- Mexico), Perro Aguayo (Mexico), and Conan El Barbaro (Florida - USA)
faces; Roberto Rangel and Pepe Casas (referees); faces win straight
falls. *** 1/2
This match was set up by last week's save of Perro Aguayo by Conan
after Sangre Chicana's obvious job for Cien Caras.
First Fall: Conan pins Sangre Chicana in under one minute after
Chicano Blood, Cien Caras, and Mascara had trashed Perro Aguayo before
Conan and El Rayo had made their ring entrances.
Second Fall: Rudos are disqualified after multiple attempts to pin
Conan and failing to do so. A strange decision. Imagine a US referee
calling this in a WWF match. Jeez, there wouldn't be any Saturday
morning TV syndie squash matches at all if anybody called this one :-)
Fourth Match: Masakre (Mexico), seconded by Pierroth vs. Pirata Morgan
(Mexico), seconded by Bestia Salvaje. *****
This match was set up by the previous two weeks of trashing of Los
Intocables by Los Infernales. Part of the angle is implicit, and never
mentioned by the announcers. Masakre used to be a member of Los
Infernales, but was replaced by Pirata Morgan just before the
tournament last Fall to determine the CMLL 6-man tag team champions.
Anyway, this was a hair vs. hair match, the loser to be shaved bald in
the ring immediately after the match.
First Fall: Bad, bad editing by Galavision of the Televisa feed. We
come back from a commercial to see Masakre juiced to the max as he
makes his entry to the ring area. No way to tell if it was a blade job
or not. The only humor is the disappointment on the face of the babe
accompanying him to the ring that she didn't get her moment to shine on
television (her disappointment is shared by me - she's a tall, well
built brunette wearing a tiny little red bikini (sigh)).
El Pirata continues to beat on Masakre, increasing the juice level
severalfold. Key moment: Pirata bites into Masakre's forehead and spits
a mouthful of blood into the air. This is an exact copy of his action
against Luis Barajas, El Faraon, about 1 1/2 years ago. Finally, El
Pirata goes to the top, executes a high plancha onto Masakre, and pins
him.
Second Fall: Masakre gains his revenge when he posts Pirata hard on the
ring floor and the pirate also begins to juice heavily. This looks like
a hardway bleed, but the camera angle prevents exact identification.
Anyway, the pirate submits to Masakre in fairly short order, ending the
fall and evening the match at a fall apiece.
Third Fall: An early highlight is a big plancha dive by Masakre from
the top turnbuckle as Pirata tries to rest on the arena floor. This
fall is characterized by countless (literally) missed 3-counts by rudo
referee Gato Montini (who was clearly favoring Pirata Morgan). Pirata
Morgan's specialty is the missed spectacular plancha attempt, and he
didn't disappoint in this fall.
The most spectacular miss was a front flip job from the top turnbuckle
in which El Pirata lands flat on his back in center ring. Can you say
"Ooooooof!"? Masakre finally submits to a Boston crab after Montini
refuses to notice similar submissions on the part of Pirata earlier in
the fall.
All 3 participants (Montini included here) are blood-stained by this
point.
Masakre's head is shaved in center ring by a barber, but Pirata gets a
rise out of Pierroth by walking by and throwing a handful of Masakre's
hair into his face. He attacks Morgan, and the two brawl briefly, soon
joined by Bestia Salvaje and Masakre. As order is restored, ringside
announcer Antonio Roche, who apparently has replaced long-time rudo
announcer Arturo Rivera, interviews Pierroth, who challenges Pirata to
a hair vs. mask match. No word if the match is signed.
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John William Jermanis
>Broadcast over Galavision Sunday, March 8, 1992 from Arena Mexico,
>Mexico City, D.F.
I caught Lucha Libre for the first time this Sunday. For those of you
who are able to, I strongly suggest trying it out. For those in the LA area,
it appears on channel 22 at 4:30 pm. I speak not a word of Spanish, so I was
almost totally oblivious to the angles. Although the number of moves executed
seems somewhat limited (I swear, I saw a minimum of 20 power bombs ... and that
was just the midget match :-), the moves are definitly more spectacular than
those executed on the "matches" (read : squashes) on domestic TV. It was
a very exciting telecast, for its entire two hours.
However, I have a little trouble understanding this Lucha Libre, being
weaned on WWF and NWA. I'm hoping some viewers can help me understand some of
angles...
>Revelation: El Filoso (as predicted).
^^^^^^^^^^
What's this?
>A quick remark: These matches are frequently characterized by very
>stiff work. In other words, many of the kicks, punches, and plancha
>dives are just a hair this side of the real thing. This card was filled
>with stiff work.
Not a question, but... did you catch that one part in the midget match
where the two rudos post Mascarita Sangrada. It's been years since I've
believed wrestling was real, but that move looked like it HURT. It didn't
look like a mistake (i.e. he real did smash his melon); that move was sold!
>Fourth Match: Masakre (Mexico), seconded by Pierroth vs. Pirata Morgan
>(Mexico), seconded by Bestia Salvaje. *****
>
>This match was set up by the previous two weeks of trashing of Los
>Intocables by Los Infernales. Part of the angle is implicit, and never
>mentioned by the announcers. Masakre used to be a member of Los
>Infernales, but was replaced by Pirata Morgan just before the
>tournament last Fall to determine the CMLL 6-man tag team champions.
Could I get a little more detail on Los Infernales and Los Intocables?
Who are they (members)? What's the story between them? What teams are Pirata
Morgan and Masakre on now?
Related question... who holds the belts in CMLL? Also what kind of
bizarre rules do they use in these six-man matches? Wrestlers seem to
enter the ring of their own free will; I mean becoming the actual legal man
without so much as a tag. Any interesting differences in the rules between
the US and Mexico.
>Third Fall: An early highlight is a big plancha dive by Masakre from
>the top turnbuckle as Pirata tries to rest on the arena floor. This
>fall is characterized by countless (literally) missed 3-counts by rudo
>referee Gato Montini (who was clearly favoring Pirata Morgan).
Hello, rudo referee? I mean the concept of good and bad (no, not
jobbers) wrestlers exists in this country, but no actual mention of their
alignment is made. But not only do they explicitly label wrestlers, they
also label the ref's? This is hilarious! Referee's are at least suppposed
to appear impartial. I'm not complaining mind you, this looks like a real
cool angle. What's the deal with rudo refs?
I like to thank Dave for calling this new brand of wrestling to my
attention. I have a few other questions, but I shall save them for further
posting. Later!
John Jermanis
Dave Fields
> In article <9203091855.AA10728@tdat> df2%td...@UUNET.UU.NET (Dave
Fields) writes:
> >Broadcast over Galavision Sunday, March 8, 1992 from Arena Mexico,
> >Mexico City, D.F.
I'll do my best to answer these queries. Some of what I'll say is as
much theory as fact, but...
>
> I caught Lucha Libre for the first time this Sunday. For those
of you
> who are able to, I strongly suggest trying it out. For those in the
LA area,
> it appears on channel 22 at 4:30 pm. I speak not a word of Spanish,
so I was
> almost totally oblivious to the angles. Although the number of moves
executed
> seems somewhat limited (I swear, I saw a minimum of 20 power bombs
.. and that
> was just the midget match :-),
That was unusual. The midgets were better than usual. The moves in the
regular matches were somewhat more limited. The Mexican guys really use
their imaginations when it comes to submission holds, though.
> the moves are definitly more spectacular than
> those executed on the "matches" (read : squashes) on domestic TV. It
was
> a very exciting telecast, for its entire two hours.
Somebody posted something about watching the Galavision matches in New
York about a month ago and said they didn't see anything particularly
interesting about a bunch of Paul Roma clones. I can imagine who they
must have been watching: Apolo Dantes. Trust me, this guy isn't typical
of Mexican wrestling. Anybody who's ever seen Octagon, Atlantis, or
Fuerza Guerrera in action will never see US wrestling in the same light
again.
>
> However, I have a little trouble understanding this Lucha
Libre, being
> weaned on WWF and NWA. I'm hoping some viewers can help me
understand some of
> angles...
>
> >Revelation: El Filoso (as predicted).
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> What's this?
This is theory: The Spanish word is "revelacion," meaning revelation. I
interpret it to mean something like "find" as in "find of the week."
Filoso's appearance the previous week was his debut on a televised CMLL
card.
The way the announcers were raving about the guy, I just assumed
(correctly, as it turned out) that he would be the next week's
"Revelacion." I have no predictions for next week :-)
>
> >A quick remark: These matches are frequently characterized by very
> >stiff work. In other words, many of the kicks, punches, and plancha
> >dives are just a hair this side of the real thing. This card was
filled
> >with stiff work.
>
> Not a question, but... did you catch that one part in the
midget match
> where the two rudos post Mascarita Sangrada. It's been years since
I've
> believed wrestling was real, but that move looked like it HURT. It
didn't
> look like a mistake (i.e. he real did smash his melon); that move was
sold!
Yes. It was quite memorable. He took the post right in the face,
without using his hands or forearms to block. It was definitely a bell
ringer :-)
Mascarita Sagrada is pretty good with this kind of work. I remember a
previous card staged at a disco where one of the rudo midgets picked
him up over his head and threw him about 4 rows up into the seats
(Mascarita Sagrada is one of the tiniest midget wrestlers I've ever
seen).
>
>
> >Fourth Match: Masakre (Mexico), seconded by Pierroth vs. Pirata
Morgan
> >(Mexico), seconded by Bestia Salvaje. *****
> >
> >This match was set up by the previous two weeks of trashing of Los
> >Intocables by Los Infernales. Part of the angle is implicit, and
never
> >mentioned by the announcers. Masakre used to be a member of Los
> >Infernales, but was replaced by Pirata Morgan just before the
> >tournament last Fall to determine the CMLL 6-man tag team
champions.
>
> Could I get a little more detail on Los Infernales and Los
Intocables?
> Who are they (members)? What's the story between them? What teams
are Pirata
> Morgan and Masakre on now?
Los Infernales (The Infernal Ones or The Damned) are Satanico (the
satanic one), MS-1, and Pirata Morgan (Morgan the Pirate). They are the
CMLL 6-man tag team champions. This was decided in a tournament held in
November and December in which the final match was Los Infernales vs.
Los Brazos. Los Infernales won cleanly and both teams shook hands after
the match.
Los Intocables (The Untouchables) are Pierroth, Jaque Mate (checkmate),
and Masakre.
The two teams have been feuding recently, having staged two excellent
rudo vs. rudo matches on television on the two weekends prior to the
show you saw.
> Related question... who holds the belts in CMLL?
Just for review, CMLL stands for Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (World
Wrestling Council).
I just posted this last week. However...
World's Heavyweight Champion: Cien Caras
Mexican Heavyweight Champion: El Egipcio
World's Lightheavyweight Champion: Jerry Estrada
Mexican Lightheavyweight Champion: Mascara Sagrada
World's Middleweight Champion: Atlantis
Mexican Middleweight Champion: Octagon
World's Welterweight Champion: Misterioso
Mexican Welterweight Champion: Ciclon Ramirez
World's Tag Team Champions: Vulcano and Tony Arce
World's 6-Man Tag Team Champions: Los Infernales
These are all I know.
The announcers have been saying something about a disputed middleweight
belt held by Blue Panther, but my Spanish isn't quite good enough to
pick up the thread.
> Also what kind of
> bizarre rules do they use in these six-man matches? Wrestlers seem
to
> enter the ring of their own free will; I mean becoming the actual
legal man
> without so much as a tag. Any interesting differences in the rules
between
> the US and Mexico.
God only knows. Presumably the rules are the same as what you see in US
wrestling on the whole, but aren't enforced. From all appearances, the
typical Mexican wrestling fan is far less a mark than his US
counterpart. Notice that there aren't any barriers protecting the
wrestlers from the fans on their entrance to the ring, nor are there
guard rails between the ring and the front row ringside seats. The fans
seem to pretty much know it's all a work, so the staging is somewhat
more elaborate.
Typically the same two guys will work together in the course of a tag
match. When one guy leaves and his teammate enters, the entering
wrestler's counterpart on the other team enters as well. Tags are
*extremely* rare. What's interesting is the frequency of 3-on-1 pins.
This is always tolerated from the heels, but almost tolerated from the
babyfaces.
You'll also notice that falls nearly always end with all 3 guys on the
losing team being pinned or submitting. This is apparently a tradition.
When you see one of these being set up, you know the fall is about to
end.
>
> >Third Fall: An early highlight is a big plancha dive by Masakre from
> >the top turnbuckle as Pirata tries to rest on the arena floor. This
> >fall is characterized by countless (literally) missed 3-counts by
rudo
> >referee Gato Montini (who was clearly favoring Pirata Morgan).
>
> Hello, rudo referee? I mean the concept of good and bad (no,
not
> jobbers) wrestlers exists in this country, but no actual mention of
their
> alignment is made. But not only do they explicitly label wrestlers,
they
> also label the ref's?
Yes. Even though you don't speak Spanish, if you listen closely when
the ring announcements are made, you will hear the announcer refer to
the rudo team and the rudo esquina (corner) and the tecnico team and
corner. Tecnicos are also called "limpios" (clean wrestlers).
> This is hilarious! Referee's are at least suppposed
> to appear impartial. I'm not complaining mind you, this looks like a
real
> cool angle. What's the deal with rudo refs?
Again, who knows? But they also designate them explicitly in the ring
announcements. The late El Gran Davis was the premier rudo referee of
all time. Gato Montini seems to be assuming his role. For awhile there
it looked like Roberto Rangel might move over to the rudo side, but I
guess not.
>
> I like to thank Dave for calling this new brand of wrestling to
my
> attention. I have a few other questions, but I shall save them for
further
> posting. Later!
One other thing: a number of US wrestlers pass through CMLL rings from
time to time. In the time I've been watching, I've seen: Kevin Von
Erich, Chris Adams, Kamala, Nitron, Ken Timbs (as El Fabuloso Blondy),
Jimmy Golden, the Moondogs, Solomon Grundy, Mike Shaw (aka Makhan
Singh/Norman/as Aaron Grundy), Art Barr (as Love Machine), the Guerrero
brothers, and probably others who I'm forgetting. From Japan there are
Kendo Nagasaki and Yoshihiro Asai (as Ultimo Dragon) and from the UK
Norman Smiley (as Black Magic).
>
> John Jermanis
>
I hope this answers your questions.
BTW, does this put me back in contention for the bandwidth title? :-)
Leland K. Neely
at a point where I want to check this out myself. I haven't been able
to find them on tv so I want to ask: Does anyone know when they're shown
in the SF bay area?
I thought I'd caught them on occaision on SIN BUT I can't seem to repeat
the find on purpose!?! So I was wondering if anyone could point me
towards the regular broadcast time(s).
THANKS!
Lee
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