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thedogz

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May 21, 2003, 1:09:03 PM5/21/03
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Ok guys, no fence sitting, what's the best boxed set for Oracle 9i DBA
certification, Sybex or Osborne? Various reviews tend towards Sybex. Is this
right? I am sure you guys will know.

Thank in advance,
TheDogz


Daniel Morgan

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May 21, 2003, 5:03:14 PM5/21/03
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thedogz wrote:

Likely you are incorrect in your assumption. I can't think of anyone that has
purchased both. So all we can comment on is the weaknesses of the one we know.

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thedogz

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May 21, 2003, 6:24:34 PM5/21/03
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Likely you are an unhelpful, pedantic twat?

Can anyone else please comment on the usefulness of the one set of books
they have purchased? (If I knew the answer I really wouldn't be asking.)

thedogz


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Peter

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May 22, 2003, 1:06:53 AM5/22/03
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On Wed, 21 May 2003 14:03:14 -0700, Daniel Morgan
<damo...@exxesolutions.com> wrote:

>thedogz wrote:
>
>> Ok guys, no fence sitting, what's the best boxed set for Oracle 9i DBA
>> certification, Sybex or Osborne? Various reviews tend towards Sybex. Is this
>> right? I am sure you guys will know.
>>
>> Thank in advance,
>> TheDogz
>
>Likely you are incorrect in your assumption. I can't think of anyone that has
>purchased both. So all we can comment on is the weaknesses of the one we know.

So which series did you read? Did you read the whole official manual
only but not any other book?

Van Messner

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May 26, 2003, 1:37:52 PM5/26/03
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The Sybex books have fewer errors in general. In my opinion you are best
off with the Oracle documentation. After that I'd use the Osborne books for
tests one and two and the Sybex books for tests three and four. Just
personal preference.


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thedogz

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May 27, 2003, 12:58:52 PM5/27/03
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Many thanks for your helpful response. I'd more or less decided to drop the
"boxed set" approach and take it one by one. My problem with the otherwise
suberb Oracle documentation is trying to plough through the sheer volume on
a cd-rom. I am old enough to find paper just sooo much easier!

Cheers.

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Reed Snellenberger

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May 27, 2003, 1:25:19 PM5/27/03
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thedogz wrote:
> Many thanks for your helpful response. I'd more or less decided to drop the
> "boxed set" approach and take it one by one. My problem with the otherwise
> suberb Oracle documentation is trying to plough through the sheer volume on
> a cd-rom. I am old enough to find paper just sooo much easier!
>

Assuming that you've got the CD-ROM, you might be able to take it to a
copy shop (Kinko's, etc) and have them print out a copy of the docs you
want -- if you can read 2-up printout (two page images on each side of
the sheet), most of the docs wouldn't kill *too* many trees...

Don't bother with Kinko's web-based service, though -- the docs are too
big to handle that way.

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Peter

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May 28, 2003, 1:19:15 PM5/28/03
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What type of file format do they accept for printing?

thedogz

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May 28, 2003, 3:44:34 PM5/28/03
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Reed,

Thanks for the advice. Sadly no Kinkos in the UK but I will try a couple of
local copy-shops and see what they can do.

Regards,
Steve

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Joel Garry

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May 28, 2003, 7:45:33 PM5/28/03
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"thedogz" <ste...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bb05gc$t7l$1...@titan.btinternet.com>...

> Many thanks for your helpful response. I'd more or less decided to drop the
> "boxed set" approach and take it one by one. My problem with the otherwise
> suberb Oracle documentation is trying to plough through the sheer volume on
> a cd-rom. I am old enough to find paper just sooo much easier!

I did the one by one approach, and found that both Sybex and Osborne
gave bogus cd's at various times. Watch for specials at places like
http://www.computerbooksonline.com/special/default.htm amazon.com and
the test givers, but don't buy too much upfront unless you _know_ you
will have time to use it all. Don't try to use materials for other
versions of tests.

jg
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Ryan

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May 28, 2003, 8:27:50 PM5/28/03
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its the best. watch out for the used ones. I like to see atleast 300-400
responses before i buy.
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Reed Snellenberger

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May 29, 2003, 5:52:29 PM5/29/03
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Offhand, I remember Word, PDF, and raw text -- it's been a while since
tried it (after having been smacked back when trying to print the 9i
Concepts manual).

You might check their website for details -- it's fairly well done...

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Reed Snellenberger

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May 29, 2003, 5:57:35 PM5/29/03
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thedogz wrote:
> Reed,
>
> Thanks for the advice. Sadly no Kinkos in the UK but I will try a couple of
> local copy-shops and see what they can do.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>

Careful... they sneak in when you least expect it -- there are three
locations in London.

http://www.kinkos.com/locations/intl.php?countryCode=GBR


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thedogz

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May 29, 2003, 6:30:02 PM5/29/03
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"Reed Snellenberger" <rsnelle...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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Reed,
Blimey! We'll be getting Barnes and Noble next :)
Unfortunately I'm not in London but I'll certainly watch out for a store
opening near me soon - probably before you can say "Starbucks"! Thanks for
the warning.

Steve


Peter

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May 30, 2003, 3:08:33 PM5/30/03
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On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:52:29 GMT, Reed Snellenberger
<rsnelle...@houston.rr.com> wrote:

>Peter wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 May 2003 17:25:19 GMT, Reed Snellenberger
>> <rsnelle...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>thedogz wrote:
>>>
>>>>Many thanks for your helpful response. I'd more or less decided to drop the
>>>>"boxed set" approach and take it one by one. My problem with the otherwise
>>>>suberb Oracle documentation is trying to plough through the sheer volume on
>>>>a cd-rom. I am old enough to find paper just sooo much easier!
>>>>
>>>
>>>Assuming that you've got the CD-ROM, you might be able to take it to a
>>>copy shop (Kinko's, etc) and have them print out a copy of the docs you
>>>want -- if you can read 2-up printout (two page images on each side of
>>>the sheet), most of the docs wouldn't kill *too* many trees...
>>>
>>>Don't bother with Kinko's web-based service, though -- the docs are too
>>>big to handle that way.
>>
>>
>> What type of file format do they accept for printing?
>>
>
>Offhand, I remember Word, PDF, and raw text -- it's been a while since
>tried it (after having been smacked back when trying to print the 9i
>Concepts manual).
>

If you send them the PDF version of the concepts manual, they should
be able to print it for you.

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