THE KING'S PEACE by Jo Walton
P Nielsen Hayden
[Note crossposting.]
It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
--
Patrick Nielsen Hayden : p...@panix.com : http://www.panix.com/~pnh
Kate Nepveu
> [Note crossposting.]
[followed-up to rasf only]
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
Has anyone told you today that you're evil?
Kate
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Dave Weingart
>It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
The question is, when will I have a finished copy in my local bookstore?
(Where it will, I expect, remain for about as long as my copy of A Deepness
in the Sky did, just long enough for me to get there and buy it.)
--
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Nancy Lebovitz
P Nielsen Hayden <p...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>
>[Note crossposting.]
>
>
>It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
--
Nancy Lebovitz na...@netaxs.com www.nancybuttons.com
Mary Kay Kare
> [Note crossposting.]
>
>
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
Grrr. I've finished Part 1 and am faunching for Part 2. When can we
lowly members of the public get our hands on a copy?
MKK
--
Stamp out tin toys!
Andrew Plotkin
> [Note crossposting.]
[now reduced some]
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
"Finished? *We* haven't even *started* it yet!"
Mumble mumble. Do you know how many good books I'm going to have piled
up before this is played out?
(Hint for the well-travelled fan: never go to a used-book store after
just *starting* _Storm of Swords_. I picked up _Bloom_ and _The
Architect of Sleep_, both of which have been heavily recommended, and
a pile of other stuff.)
So by the time I get through all of that, it'll be October, right, and
there's the Pullman... and who knows what else.
All of this after _Ash_, _Look to Windward_, and others. I'm
sufferin', I tell ya.
--Z
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the
borogoves..."
Jo Walton
p...@panix.com "P Nielsen Hayden" writes:
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
Yipeeeeee!
--
Jo - - I kissed a kif at Kefk - - J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk
http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk - UPDATED Interstichia; Poetry; RASFW FAQ;
THE KING'S PEACE, Tor Books, October 2000 - can be ordered now from Amazon
sample chapters on http://www.tor.com/sampleKingsPeace.html
Beth Friedman
>[Note crossposting.]
>
>It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
Yay! I'm looking forward to getting the real version.
It's listed on Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble, and everything.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312872291/o/qid=968701774/sr=2-1/002-5694405-9016841
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2VB2ET9TPE&mscssid=612ES7C2H0S92HNC0017QUE8AKRKD1W3&isbn=0312872291
However, I have this gift certificate to Borders burning a hole in my
wallet, and I think I will just get my copy from them.
Congratulations, Jo!
--
Beth Friedman
b...@wavefront.com
Dan Goodman
Dave Weingart <phyd...@liii.com> wrote:
>One day in Teletubbyland, p...@panix.com said:
>>It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
I've now seen the cover art and am very favorably impressed. For once, a
female warrior whose armor/clothing actually looks practical for fighting!
--
Dan Goodman
dsg...@visi.com
http://www.visi.com/~dsgood/index.html
Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.
Anne M. Marble
>
> [Note crossposting.]
>
>
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
Yaaay! I'll be looking forward to it.
It was mentioned in the B. Dalton in-store science fiction & fantasy
newsletter. Very nice coverage -- picture (of the book) and all.
It might have been covered in the Barnes & Noble newsletter as well. I'll
have to check. (It'll give me an excuse to find more bloody books to read,
darn it.)
Mark Atwood
What does "finished" mean in this context?
--
Mark Atwood |
m...@pobox.com |
http://www.pobox.com/~mra
P Nielsen Hayden
Mark Atwood <m...@pobox.com> wrote:
>p...@panix.com (P Nielsen Hayden) writes:
>>
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>What does "finished" mean in this context?
Printed, bound, and complete with dustjacket. The actual object you'd
buy in a store -- not a proof, not an "advance reading copy."
Thomas Womack
> p...@panix.com "P Nielsen Hayden" writes:
>
> > It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
> Yipeeeeee!
It's not actually *out* yet, but amazon.co.uk will put a nice shiny copy on
my doorstep at 9am the day it does.
Pure self-indulgence, I know, but I believe few of the participants here are
often accused of calm restraint in the matter of long-anticipated books.
Tom
Dave Weingart
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>What does "finished" mean in this context?
They've all got a nice light coat of enamel.
Doug Wickstrom
>p...@panix.com (P Nielsen Hayden) writes:
>>
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>What does "finished" mean in this context?
Printed, bound, dust-jacketed, and ready to ship, I would
imagine.
Time to walk over to Dreamhaven and reserve a copy.
--
Doug Wickstrom
"Now what I contend is that my body is my own, at least I have always so
regarded it. If I do harm through my experimenting with it, it is I who
suffers, not the state." --Mark Twain
Avram Grumer
> On 11 Sep 2000 13:33:56 -0700,
> Mark Atwood <m...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> >p...@panix.com (P Nielsen Hayden) writes:
> >
> >> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
> >
> >What does "finished" mean in this context?
>
> Printed, bound, and complete with dustjacket. The actual object
> you'd buy in a store -- not a proof, not an "advance reading copy."
Not a dream? Not an imaginary story?
--
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"Some people need to learn that the Internet changes everything.
And some people need to learn that it doesn't." -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden
Kip Williams
>
> In article <slrn8rqgp...@pnh-0.dsl.speakeasy.net>, p...@panix.com wrote:
>
> > On 11 Sep 2000 13:33:56 -0700,
> > Mark Atwood <m...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > >p...@panix.com (P Nielsen Hayden) writes:
> > >
> > >> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
> > >
> > >What does "finished" mean in this context?
> >
> > Printed, bound, and complete with dustjacket. The actual object
> > you'd buy in a store -- not a proof, not an "advance reading copy."
>
> Not a dream? Not an imaginary story?
Not a cough in a carload.
--
--Kip (Williams)
amusing the world at http://members.home.net/kipw/
Ed Dravecky III
> [Note crossposting.]
Trimmed back to RASFF only.
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
I can help you with that problem. Just wrap one up real careful
like and mail it to "Ed Dravecky; PO Box 143; Addison TX 75001"
for off-site storage and appreciation. Always happy to help.
--
Ed Dravecky III (ed3 at panix.com)
Webmaster of http://www.deathsheep.com/
Sylvia Li
>
> [Note crossposting.]
>
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
--
Sylvia Li
Scott Taylor
<J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <slrn8rq0p...@pnh-0.dsl.speakeasy.net>
> p...@panix.com "P Nielsen Hayden" writes:
>
> > It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
> Yipeeeeee!
:-)
Congratulations, Jo!
Yay!
--
Scott Taylor
Freelancer for Hire
Have Powerbook, Will Travel
John Ringo
John
(Who came back from Worldcon to a very large and heavy UPS shipment. Yippee
indeed.)
--
The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad
girls live.
-- George Carlin
See sample chapters for my upcoming book "A Hymn Before Battle" (Baen
Publishing) at:
http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200007/0671319418.htm?blurb
www.johnringo.com
"Jo Walton" <J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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William December Starr
p...@panix.com said:
> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
Are they all the same?
-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Julie Pascal
I've been off the group for a while... is "The King's Peace" the
first or second one?
--Julie
Joe Slater
>p...@panix.com said:
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>Are they all the same?
They exist in a male and a female version which are identical, except
for one paragraph.
jds
--
And now kind friends, what I have wrote,
I hope you will pass o'er,
And not criticize, as some have done,
Hitherto herebefore. (Julia Moore, "The Author's Early Life")
P Nielsen Hayden
Joe Slater <joeDEL...@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au> wrote:
>>In article <slrn8rq0p...@pnh-0.dsl.speakeasy.net>,
>>p...@panix.com said:
>>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>Are they all the same?
>
>They exist in a male and a female version which are identical, except
>for one paragraph.
You're thinking of the section where Sulien first arrives in the City
and joins the scorpion gang. But in both versions she avoids the
unfortunate episode with the elevator shaft.
Phil Fraering
Yippee! I was under the impression that it was a book already, and
was searching for it on my way back from Houston.
Wasn't at Barnes and Noble, wasn't in a rice field... oh well.
--
Phil Fraering "One day, Pinky, A MOUSE shall rule, and it is the
p...@globalreach.net humans who will be forced to endure these humiliating
/Will work for tape/ diversions!"
"You mean like Orlando, Brain?"
Jo Walton
ju...@pascal.org "Julie Pascal" writes:
> I've been off the group for a while... is "The King's Peace" the
> first or second one?
First one. My first published novel. And it's speeding through the
night to giant bookstores even now. It seems so... sfnal.
--
Jo - - I kissed a kif at Kefk - - J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk
http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk - UPDATED Interstichia; Poetry; RASFW FAQ;
THE KING'S PEACE, Tor Books, Out now!!!
Michael Caldwell
>p...@panix.com (P Nielsen Hayden) wrote:
>>[Note crossposting.]
>>It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>Yay! I'm looking forward to getting the real version.
>It's listed on Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble, and everything.
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312872291/o/qid=968701774/sr=2-1/00
2-5694405-9016841
>http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2VB2ET9TPE
&mscssid=612ES7C2H0S92HNC0017QUE8AKRKD1W3&isbn=0312872291
>However, I have this gift certificate to Borders burning a hole in my
>wallet, and I think I will just get my copy from them.
Hmm, most like I'll be getting it from Amazon. Jo, do you have some sort
of Amazon Afiliates thing on a web-page somewhere? I'd like to give you
some more filthy lucre along the way if I could.
Oh, and congratulations.
--
John Ringo
Weird feeling, idn'it? I keep having what I call VOMs, Very Odd Moments.
Congratulations again!
John
--
The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad
girls live.
-- George Carlin
See sample chapters for my upcoming book "A Hymn Before Battle" (Baen
Publishing) at:
http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200007/0671319418.htm?blurb
www.johnringo.com
"Jo Walton" <J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Sherwood Smith
<ama...@abs.net> wrote:
>It was mentioned in the B. Dalton in-store science fiction & fantasy
>newsletter. Very nice coverage -- picture (of the book) and all.
>
>It might have been covered in the Barnes & Noble newsletter as well. I'll
>have to check. (It'll give me an excuse to find more bloody books to read,
>darn it.)
>
Oh, Anne. Do order it. I started reading a review copy yesterday
over breakfast, and the next thing I knew almost two hours had passed,
and my locked-in-tight schedule was in serious trouble--and so was I.
I'm longing to get back to it.
Pete McCutchen
>In article <8pj109$k9v$1...@cedar.ggn.net>,
>Dave Weingart <phyd...@liii.com> wrote:
>>One day in Teletubbyland, p...@panix.com said:
>>>It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>I've now seen the cover art and am very favorably impressed. For once, a
>female warrior whose armor/clothing actually looks practical for fighting!
"What do we want? Body Armor!"
"When do we want it? Now!"
--
Pete McCutchen
John Ringo
John
--
The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad
girls live.
-- George Carlin
See sample chapters for my upcoming book "A Hymn Before Battle" (Baen
Publishing) at:
http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200007/0671319418.htm?blurb
www.johnringo.com
"Sherwood Smith" <sherwoo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:39be35a2...@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
Amanda Baker
wrote:
>In article <slrn8rq0p...@pnh-0.dsl.speakeasy.net>
> p...@panix.com "P Nielsen Hayden" writes:
>
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>Yipeeeeee!
Wow! Congratulations!!!
Amanda
Marilee J. Layman
<john...@cuthis.mindspring.exthisout.com.invalid> wrote:
>Are there any sample chapters on-line?
Yep: http://www.tor.com/sampleKingsPeace.html
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Alison Hopkins
Marilee J. Layman wrote in message
<4h9trssb7ncmh9oul...@4ax.com>...
>On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:18:25 -0400, "John Ringo"
><john...@cuthis.mindspring.exthisout.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Are there any sample chapters on-line?
>
>Yep: http://www.tor.com/sampleKingsPeace.html
>
Ooh. I like this. Must get. So , which day do we all hit Amazon at once?
Ali
Arwel Parry
<fn...@dial.pipex.com> writes
You're a bit behind the times, Ali - most of us went to Amazon when this
was first mentioned on 14th August! :-)
--
Arwel Parry
http://www.cartref.demon.co.uk/
JE Anderson
Jo Walton wrote:
> First one. My first published novel. And it's speeding through the
> night to giant bookstores even now. It seems so... sfnal.
Congrats Jo!
Janet Anderson
Ed Dravecky III
<about The King's Peace>
> Are there any sample chapters on-line?
Yes!
http://www.tor.com/sampleKingsPeace.html
Enjoy.
LAFF
<ama...@abs.net> wrote:
>P Nielsen Hayden <p...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> [Note crossposting.]
>>
>>
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
>Yaaay! I'll be looking forward to it.
>
>It was mentioned in the B. Dalton in-store science fiction & fantasy
>newsletter. Very nice coverage -- picture (of the book) and all.
>
>It might have been covered in the Barnes & Noble newsletter as well. I'll
>have to check. (It'll give me an excuse to find more bloody books to read,
>darn it.)
It was. Saw it listed last time I was at B&N -- about three weeks
ago; it's a 25 mile each way drive so I don't go there often -- and
looked all over not realizing it wasn't available *yet*! (Bought some
Pratchetts that I hadn't read yet, so it wasn't a total waste.)
Just added Jo's book to my "save for later" list on Amazon.
--
Lois Fundis lfu...@weir.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Cockpit/9377/handy-dandy.html
I always like to know what subject it is I'm straying away from.
-- Terry Pratchett
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/SF-Archives/Ansible/a50.html#pratchett
Gary Farber
shet...@bigvalley.net wrote:
>
>
> P Nielsen Hayden wrote:
>
> > [Note crossposting.]
> >
> > It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>
> usenet,
> is this an ad?
No, absolutely not. Jo Walton is a highly regarded longtime poster to
rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.fandom, and rec.arts.composition. She is
a good friend to the vast majority of the communities present in those
newsgroups, where Patrick is also a major participant. If neither
Patrick nor Jo mentioned that Jo's first book was now extant, it would
be deeply deeply weird.
Now, Jo's .sig has long had what I'd call an "ad" about the book. And
if either of them, or anyone else, brought up the book in the middle of
conversation, that might be an ad. But a singular mention of the
existence of something to one's friends that they care about can't
possibly be considered an ad. In my opinion.
> Patrick is an employee of the publisher of the book
> that
> he's announcing; anyone who buys it will be involved in a commercial
> transaction. There's no attempt to disguise the fact that he's
> announcing that a product is available to buy
You don't read r.a.sf.fandom, where I'm reading this, and I think this
is an entirely false characterization. I read one of my friends saying
that something good has happened to another friend.
> (he didn't mention the
> book's arrival in a message dedicated to something else, nor did he
> put
> the information in his sig file).
Well, that latter *would* be an ad. I don't see that pretending to hide
information would be relevant in any way, and one doesn't generally
give forth information accidentally.
> For the record, it seems to me that messages like his are perfectly
> appropriate to newsgroups devoted to written science fiction and
> writing
> science fiction, but when it comes to what people think appropriate in
> a
> newsgroup, my record over the last eight years or so is notably
> spotty.
[. . .]
>
> About my latest novel, CHIMERA, KIRKUS said, "from the author of the
> splendid DOGLAND ...a winner."
That's certainly an ad. I'm mystified that any of this is a question.
Obviously I'm missing context from not having read r.a.sf.w or .c in an
age.
> About writing workshops given by Emma Bull and me:
> www.starwatcher.org/workshops.html
--
Gary Farber New York
gfa...@panix.com 2000
garyf...@juno.com
gfa...@my-deja.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Michael Adams
things that many think are advertisments! Our heroes not only have feet of
clay, but are made completely of clay too, and that is why they disintegrate
when one takes a hose to them!
Can't this thread please halt now? The only that happens from here on out is
people start repeating themselves, this post included.
I think we all know what we consider ads, etc. One reason we bash
advertisments is that they're not actually terribly related and useful for
discussion. And the ones that are, we bash on principle. But this thread has
about the usefullness of an ad--it's not on topic, people's feelings get
hurt, and it has practically no place, except by email between the cheif
combatants.
So please, cease and desist--meaning send your angry followups to this on by
email.
Thank you, and goodnight,
Or maybe not. :)
Loren Joseph MacGregor
>I (obviously) think you are right and Will is wrong, but I generally
>hate it when someone, in piling onto me, deliberately expands the
>audience through crossposting. It does seem somehow unfair.
I was a little confused myself, since (for time reasons only) at the
moment I don't read .written or .comp(osition?), so I hadn't any idea what
was going on until Gary's post indicated there was a slipstream somewhere
-- which more or less confirmed my suspicion, based on the weird one-off
post of a day or so ago, but didn't add much to my knowledge.
-- LJM
P Nielsen Hayden
Gary Farber <garyf...@juno.com> wrote:
>I don't recall precisely what I did with that post, but what I *think* I
>recall is that I thought I was posting to rasseff, but after thinking
>that this was obviously a cross-posted thread, I went back to check, and
>much to my surprise, discovered that rasseff wasn't listed. But the
>only reason I was posting was to address rasseff. I thought all along
>that I was reading the thread in rasseff. I had no reason to
>think otherwise.
Okay. It was an artifact of Deja weirdness. Just to be clear: the
whole thread of argument with Will Shetterly had almost no existence
whatsoever in rasff, save for your post and perhaps one other stray.
It took place in rasfc and rasfw.
>It never occurred to me, I completely admit, that there was anything
>anyone would find offensive about this.
I don't find it offensive -- obviously it was a technical glitch, and
hardly your fault.
P Nielsen Hayden
[Newsgroups line trimmed back to rasff only.]
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:13:02 GMT,
Gary Farber <garyf...@juno.com> wrote:
>In article <39BD1652...@bigvalley.net>,
> shet...@bigvalley.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> P Nielsen Hayden wrote:
>>
>> > [Note crossposting.]
>> >
>> > It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
>>
>> So, in the hope of grasping what people think is appropriate on
>> usenet, is this an ad?
>
>No, absolutely not.
[rest of Gary Farber's post deleted]
A sensible post. But here's what I don't understand. My jolly
announcement was crossposted to rasff, rasfc, and rasfw. Will cut
rasff from his response, the response you quote, and the bulk of the
subsequent conversation -- not about Jo's book but about Will's
conceptual problem -- took place in rasfc, with some small
crossposting to rasfw.
Posting late to the thread, and responding to Will's original post,
you re-added rasff. Why?
I (obviously) think you are right and Will is wrong, but I generally
hate it when someone, in piling onto me, deliberately expands the
audience through crossposting. It does seem somehow unfair.
--
Gary Farber
p...@panix.com wrote:
[. . .]
> A sensible post. But here's what I don't understand. My jolly
> announcement was crossposted to rasff, rasfc, and rasfw. Will cut
> rasff from his response, the response you quote, and the bulk of the
> subsequent conversation -- not about Jo's book but about Will's
> conceptual problem -- took place in rasfc, with some small
> crossposting to rasfw.
>
> Posting late to the thread, and responding to Will's original post,
> you re-added rasff. Why?
It's a Usenet truism that we all see newsgroups differently depending
upon, among other things, which newsreader we use and how we use it.
Trying to follow Usenet through Dejanews, rather than merely using it to
find single old posts, is deeply weird compared to all the other means
I've ever followed Usenet by.
Deja consistently and constantly presents results that baffle me in why
I'm seeing threads the way it's showing them to me. Why, for god's
sake, does it declare that most threads eventually are in Clarinet, for
example?
When reading posts that have been crossposted, there is no way to even
detect that there is a crosspost, other than by internal evidence; one
can guess that at some point, some time, some thread related might have
had a cross-post, from the odd little thingie at the top that ostensibly
tells you what newsgroup you are reading, but it's just as likely to be
wrong, since it tells you that for all sorts of threads that have never
been cross-posted.
One *does* get a listing of up to three cross-posted newsgroups (but not
more) if one *posts*, but it's something you have to be a lot more
careful to check for, the way my eyes interprets the visual
presentation, at least, than any newreader I've used.
I don't recall precisely what I did with that post, but what I *think* I
recall is that I thought I was posting to rasseff, but after thinking
that this was obviously a cross-posted thread, I went back to check, and
much to my surprise, discovered that rasseff wasn't listed. But the
only reason I was posting was to address rasseff. I thought all along
that I was reading the thread in rasseff. I had no reason to
think otherwise. Rasseff is the only newsgroup in the r.a.sf.*
hierarchy that I've even tried to make time to read at all in the past
year, if you've not noticed. I'm trying to keep up conversation with my
friends in rasseff, which is of greater importance to me than the
pleasures of r.a.sf.w or *.c. So I typed rasseff back into the header,
the only other choices appearing to be to give up on an already written
post that seemed as equally relevant to rasseff as the other newsgroups,
or to have to run over to two other newsgroups to read the responses of
people I wasn't all that interested in reading anyway.
It never occurred to me, I completely admit, that there was anything
anyone would find offensive about this.
> I (obviously) think you are right and Will is wrong, but I generally
> hate it when someone, in piling onto me, deliberately expands the
> audience through crossposting. It does seem somehow unfair.
In principle, I agree with you. But in no way was I deliberately doing
so in this case.
Gary Farber
way, they can go to
<http://x57.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/viewthread.xp?thitnum=3&mhitnum=0&toffse
t=1&CONTEXT=968848027.1423245315&HIT_NUM=&frpage=threadmsg_if.xp&back=re
c.arts.sf.fandom>, and look. (I am using Netscape Communicator 4.6 for
Windows on Windows 98.)
Note what's on the end of that URL. Note where it says on the top of
the page "Home>>Discussions>>rec.arts.sf.fandom." Note that below it,
it says "Forum: rec.arts.sf.fandom."
Wackily enough, I thought I was reading rec.arts.sf.fandom.
(It wasn't until I plugged Free Agent in that I realized that I've been
deprived of all of Graydon Saunders, as well as of Michael Weholt, and I
still can't reply to him, sigh.
Geoff Wedig
> In article <slrn8rq0p...@pnh-0.dsl.speakeasy.net>
> p...@panix.com "P Nielsen Hayden" writes:
>> It's a book. I have ten finished copies on my desk.
> Yipeeeeee!
You know, I just waded through 150+ posts to get here.
Congratulations Jo! I'll be keeping an eye peeled for it.
Geoff
Alison Hopkins
Arwel Parry wrote in message ...
Hey, that's me, only a month behind! :)
Ali
Jo Walton
ncal...@dingoblue.net.au "Nick Caldwell" writes:
> I read this a while ago, but I just want to say that Jo will be
> joining the 4 b's (Bujold, Brust, Banks, um, er, Pratchett) as people
> I'll buy in hardcover.
What wonderful and eclectic taste you have.
If you were speaking Welsh, and you said "the" Banks, Bujold and Brust,
but not for Pratchett, they could all four begin with "P".
HTH...
Kate Nepveu
> In article <39c1edd3...@news.dingoblue.net.au>
> ncal...@dingoblue.net.au "Nick Caldwell" writes:
> > I read this a while ago, but I just want to say that Jo will be
> > joining the 4 b's (Bujold, Brust, Banks, um, er, Pratchett) as people
> > I'll buy in hardcover.
> What wonderful and eclectic taste you have.
Hey, (ObOtherThread), I'm eclectic...
(And, what _is_ it about the prevelance of good authors in the B's?)
Kate
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Gary Farber
kate....@yale.edu wrote:
[. . .]
> Hey, (ObOtherThread), I'm eclectic...
>
> (And, what _is_ it about the prevelance of good authors in the B's?)
Cross-pollination.
Del Cotter
Gary Farber (fwa pp) wrote:
>kate....@yale.edu wrote:
>> (And, what _is_ it about the prevelance of good authors in the B's?)
>
>Cross-pollination.
*groan*
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Janet Kegg
[note crossposting]
In article <968743...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> Jo Walton wrote on 12
September:
>In article <8pk891$eti$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>
> ju...@pascal.org "Julie Pascal" writes:
>
>> I've been off the group for a while... is "The King's Peace" the
>> first or second one?
>
>First one. My first published novel. And it's speeding through the
>night to giant bookstores even now. It seems so... sfnal.
And it finally made it to Border's in downtown DC -- I got a copy
there today. Lovely.
-- Janet
Mary Kay Kare
OOOHHH!!! Growing green with jealousy. I was in Borders (though not in
downtown DC) mere hours ago and no KINGS PEACE to be seen. Sigh.
MKK
--
Stamp out tin toys!
Elisabeth Carey
news:3iq7tsc9grunrj0fr...@4ax.com...
>
> [note crossposting]
>
> In article <968743...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> Jo Walton wrote on 12
> September:
>
> >In article <8pk891$eti$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>
> > ju...@pascal.org "Julie Pascal" writes:
> >
> >> I've been off the group for a while... is "The King's Peace" the
> >> first or second one?
> >
> >First one. My first published novel. And it's speeding through the
> >night to giant bookstores even now. It seems so... sfnal.
>
> And it finally made it to Border's in downtown DC -- I got a copy
> there today. Lovely.
Gibson's emailed me day before yesterday, to say they have it in. It has to
wait until payday, unfortunately, but at least I know it is waiting for me.
--
Lis Carey
Copyright 2000 by Elisabeth Carey. Any hyperlinks present in the text of
this message were added without my permission.
John Richards
Amazon mailed me mine last night.
--
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England. UK. The Magpie, Fratton Road, Portsmouth
Arwel Parry
Kay Kare <ka...@sirius.com> writes
And I got an email from amazon.co.uk last night to say my copy's in the
post!!
Paul Clarke
<jo...@panorama.panorama.com> wrote:
>Mary Kay Kare wrote:
>> OOOHHH!!! Growing green with jealousy. I was in Borders (though not in
>> downtown DC) mere hours ago and no KINGS PEACE to be seen. Sigh.
>>
>
>Amazon mailed me mine last night.
... and I've just ordered mine. Incidentally, Amazon.co.uk shows the
sales rank of _The King's Peace_ as 2063, narrowly beating Mary
Gentle's _Ash_ (2129) and well ahead of most other books I've ordered
from them, many of which had six-figure ranks.
Tom Womack
: [note crossposting]
: In article <968743...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> Jo Walton wrote on 12
: September:
:>In article <8pk891$eti$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>
:> ju...@pascal.org "Julie Pascal" writes:
:>
:>> I've been off the group for a while... is "The King's Peace" the
:>> first or second one?
:>
:>First one. My first published novel. And it's speeding through the
:>night to giant bookstores even now. It seems so... sfnal.
: And it finally made it to Border's in downtown DC -- I got a copy
: there today. Lovely.
Mine arrived this morning. And, in a remarkable show of restraint, I only
read six chapters before going to college.
Mmm.
Tom
Dave Weingart
>: And it finally made it to Border's in downtown DC -- I got a copy
>: there today. Lovely.
>
>Mine arrived this morning. And, in a remarkable show of restraint, I only
>read six chapters before going to college.
*pout*
Borders near my office says it won't go out 'til Sunday. I'll have to
try the one near home.
--
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mailto:phyd...@liii.com Mike Stein! Oh, yeah, and some guy
http://www.liii.com/~phydeaux named Dave Wein-something-or-other.
ICQ 57055207 http://www.consonance.org
P Nielsen Hayden
Paul Clarke <paul....@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:02:19 +0100, John Richards
><jo...@panorama.panorama.com> wrote:
>
>>Mary Kay Kare wrote:
>>> downtown DC) mere hours ago and no KINGS PEACE to be seen. Sigh.
>>>
>>
>
>... and I've just ordered mine. Incidentally, Amazon.co.uk shows the
>sales rank of _The King's Peace_ as 2063, narrowly beating Mary
>Gentle's _Ash_ (2129) and well ahead of most other books I've ordered
>from them, many of which had six-figure ranks.
Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon "sales
ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an untuned
television screen for secret messages. Below the top few hundred,
they probably mean "someone ordered a copy today" or "nobody ordered a
copy this week."
Nonetheless, it's interesting that while TKP is number fifty thousand
and something on Amazon US, it's right now number 2,304 on Amazon UK.
And Amazon UK is just selling the US edition; there is no UK edition.
Probably just snow.
Avram Grumer
> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
> untuned television screen for secret messages.
"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
--
Avram Grumer | av...@grumer.org | http://www.PigsAndFishes.org
"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job
is underestimating." -- George W. Bush, quoted in U.S. News & World
Report, 3 April 2000
Loren Joseph MacGregor
Barnes & Noble has it, and as I will be stopping there after work in
search of another book, I seized the opportunity to have a copy set aside
for me.
So I know what I'll be reading when Lauryn meets me for our date tonight.
-- LJM (McGrath's for crab & shrimp wonton as a first course...)
Bruce Baugh
>> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
>> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
>> untuned television screen for secret messages.
>
>"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
A sales ranking came across the sky.
--
Bruce Baugh <*> bruce...@spiretech.com
Information wants to be free. Entertainment wants to be valuable.
John Boston
> In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>, av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>
> >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
> >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
> >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
> >
> >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>
> A sales ranking came across the sky.
The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
John Boston
Kip Williams
>
> In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>, av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>
> >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
> >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
> >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
> >
> >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>
> A sales ranking came across the sky.
No larger than a man's hand?
--
--Kip (Williams)
amusing the world at http://members.home.net/kipw/
Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey
> Bruce Baugh wrote:
>
> > In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>, av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
> >
> > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
> > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
> > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
> > >
> > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
> >
> > A sales ranking came across the sky.
>
> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
--
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Andrew C. Wheeler
> In article <Pine.SGI.4.21.00092...@fsgi02.fnal.gov>,
> Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes
> >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce Baugh wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>,
> >av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
> >> > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
> >> > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
> >> > >
> >> > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
> >> >
> >> > A sales ranking came across the sky.
> >>
> >> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
> >
> >"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
> >
>
> 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
--
Andrew Wheeler
Editor, Science Fiction Book Club
business e-mail: andrew....@bookspan.com
winner, World's Most Boring .sig: 1998, 1999, 2000 (Emeritus)
Bill Snyder
<andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
>Ken MacLeod wrote:
>
>> In article <Pine.SGI.4.21.00092...@fsgi02.fnal.gov>,
>> Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes
>> >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bruce Baugh wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>,
>> >av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
>> >> > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
>> >> > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>> >> >
>> >> > A sales ranking came across the sky.
>> >>
>> >> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>> >
>> >"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
>> >
>> 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
>
>In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
The sales ranking lived in a black and gray world, punctuated by the
white lightening of hunger and the flickering of fear.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]
Mary Kay Kare
<jo...@panorama.panorama.com> wrote:
> Amazon mailed me mine last night.
>
And they have suddenly gone from having no info on when my order will be
shipped to saying they estimate delivery by Oct. 3.
Ken MacLeod
Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes
>On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
>
>> Bruce Baugh wrote:
>>
>> > In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>,
>av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
>> > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
>> > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
>> > >
>> > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>> >
>> > A sales ranking came across the sky.
>>
>> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>
>"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
>
'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
--
Ken MacLeod
Loren MacGregor
> search of another book, I seized the opportunity to have a copy set aside
> for me.
>
> So I know what I'll be reading when Lauryn meets me for our date tonight.
Follow-up: They had four copies when I went in and got mine. In
the coffeeshop, I read the opening, and noticed that there was a
page accordion-folded, and asked if I could switch. Yes, I could --
for the one remaining copy.
-- LJM
Ray Radlein
>
> Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes:
> >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
> >> Bruce Baugh wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the
> >> > >low thousands."
> >> >
> >> > A sales ranking came across the sky.
> >>
> >> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
> >
> >"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a
> >sales ranking."
> >
> 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the
> salesman.
It was a bright cold day in April, and the books were all ranked at
thirteen.
- Ray R.
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Alia
>
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:42:23 +0000, "Andrew C. Wheeler"
> <andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
>
> >Ken MacLeod wrote:
> >
>
> The sales ranking lived in a black and gray world, punctuated by the
> white lightening of hunger and the flickering of fear.
>
Suddenly, a shot rang out. The sales ranking slumped to the floor.
--
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J. B. Moreno
> John Richards <jo...@panorama.panorama.com> wrote:
>
-snip-
> > Amazon mailed me mine last night.
> >
> And they have suddenly gone from having no info on when my order will be
> shipped to saying they estimate delivery by Oct. 3.
Instead of relying upon Amazon, I went and looked in a B&N -- and there it
was.
And desite this being a really unsual (and not totally pleasant) reading
experience in one way (I kept thinking of various rasfw discusions throught
the story), I have only one thing to say:
Damn you Jo Walton -- now I have to wait for the sequel!
(followups set to rasfw and rasff)
--
J.B.Moreno
Lori Selke
P Nielsen Hayden <p...@panix.com> wrote:
>Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon "sales
>ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an untuned
>television screen for secret messages. Below the top few hundred,
>they probably mean "someone ordered a copy today" or "nobody ordered a
>copy this week."
One of the books of the very-small-press I work for was ranked
something ridiculously high a few months ago (like 1000) ...
before we'd shipped any books. We kept wondering why, if we
were selling so darn well, Amazon didn't order some already.
Lori
--
se...@io.com
se...@sirius.com
"But this isn't a dance! It's upright delirium!" -- The Desert Peach
Lori Selke
Lori Selke <se...@io.com> wrote:
>One of the books of the very-small-press I work for was ranked
>something ridiculously high a few months ago (like 1000) ...
>before we'd shipped any books. We kept wondering why, if we
>were selling so darn well, Amazon didn't order some already.
Darnit, I dropped a zero. 10,000, I meant -- which is, still,
ridiculously well for us.
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
> ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare) wrote:
> > John Richards <jo...@panorama.panorama.com> wrote:
> >
> -snip-
> > > Amazon mailed me mine last night.
> > >
> > And they have suddenly gone from having no info on when my order will be
> > shipped to saying they estimate delivery by Oct. 3.
>
> Instead of relying upon Amazon, I went and looked in a B&N -- and there it
> was.
And I got a call from the Other Change of Hobbit, to tell me that my
copy is in.
73, doug
Ed Dravecky III
> Bill Snyder wrote:
> > "Andrew C. Wheeler" <andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
> > > Ken MacLeod wrote:
> > > > Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes
> > > > > > Bruce Baugh wrote:
> > > > > > > > "The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in
> > > > > > > > the low thousands."
> > > > > > > A sales ranking came across the sky.
> > > > > > The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
> > > > > "Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a
> > > > > sales ranking."
> > > > 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the
> > > > salesman.
> > > In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
> > The sales ranking lived in a black and gray world, punctuated by
> > the white lightening of hunger and the flickering of fear.
> Suddenly, a shot rang out. The sales ranking slumped to the floor.
It was the best of sales rankings, it was the worst of sales rankings.
--
Ed Dravecky III
(ed3 at panix.com)
Damien Neil
Ken MacLeod <k...@libertaria.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>>>>
>>>> A sales ranking came across the sky.
>>>
>>> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>>
>>"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
>
>'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
The sales ranking dilated.
- Damien
Martin Wisse
> Amazon mailed me mine last night.
And I see Powells now knows of it too, so my order will be going out this
afternoon, unless ABC has it, then i'll buy it tomorrow.
I like Powells because while they don't have discounts on new books like
Amazon, they do free shipping for orders above $50 and have used books.
Their main disadvantage is that Powells is a lot slower then Amazon in
getting new books listed on their site, for obvious reasons.
Martin Wisse
Zeborah
> In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
The sales ranking dilated.
Zeborah
--
http://www.crosswinds.net/~zeborahnz
Gravity is no joke.
Michael Hargreave Mawson
<zeb...@altavista.com> writes
>The sales ranking dilated.
ATB
--
Mike
"His wish was to become a historian - not to dig out facts and store
them in himself... but to understand them, call the dead back to life
and let them speak through him to their descendants. She sometimes
wondered who would pay for it and who would heed."
- from "Harvest of Stars" by Poul Anderson.
Steve Cross
>It was a bright cold day in April, and the books were all ranked at
>thirteen.
Ya want Orwellian. I gotcha Orwellian right here. :-D
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS A SALES RANKING
Steve Cross
Philip Chee
>In article <1ehsbu9.m25wef1f0t2brN%zeb...@altavista.com>, Zeborah
><zeb...@altavista.com> writes
>>Andrew C. Wheeler <andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
>>> Ken MacLeod wrote:
>>> > Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes
>>> > >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
>>> > >> Bruce Baugh wrote:
>>> > >av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
>>> > >> > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
>>> > >> > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
>>> > >> > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low
>>> > >> > >thousands."
>>> > >> > A sales ranking came across the sky.
>>> > >> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>>> > >"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales
>>> > >ranking."
>>> > 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
>>> In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
>>The sales ranking dilated.
>"I'm not a number, I'm a sales ranking!"
Seemeinaheelsdancing, uptown sales ranking.
Phil
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Erik V. Olson
>On 30 Sep 2000 07:49:08 GMT, ne...@centauri.org (Damien Neil) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:35:06 +0100,
>>Ken MacLeod <k...@libertaria.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A sales ranking came across the sky.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>>>>
>>>>"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
>>>
>>>'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
>>
>
>We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the
>sales rankings began to take hold.
Four score and seven sales rankings ago, our founding authors brought forth
upon this continent, a new novel, concieved in whimsy and dedicated to the
proposition that all sales were created equal, as well as to the author's
editor and significant other.
Now we are engaged in a great price war, testing whether this novel, or any
novel so edited and dedicated, can long endure on the New York Times
Bestseller list. We are met at a great publishing house of this war. We have
come to dedicate a section of these shelves, as a temporary resting place
for those works that did not sell so that this novel may sell. It is
altogether fitting and proper, as well as contractually obligated, that we
do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate-we cannot consecrate-we cannot
hallow-these shelves. The brave works, printed and no longer in print, who
were remaindered here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add
or detract, until they reach the pulp mills. The world will little note, nor
long remember what we post here, until Deja is fixed, but it can never
forget how poorly they sold here. It is for us the active authors, rather,
to be dedicated here to our unfinished work which they who have written here
have thus far so nobly gotten an advance, and little else. It is rather for
us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us-that from
these disregarded remaindered we take increased devotion to that cause for
which they gave the last full measure of devotion-that we here highly
resolve that these no longer in print shall not have failed in vain-that
this novel, under Ghu, shall have a new burst of sales-and that fiction of
the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the
stores."
--
Erik V. Olson: er...@mo.net : http://walden.mo.net/~eriko/
Phil Fraering
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
>
> > Bruce Baugh wrote:
> >
> > > In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>, av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
> > > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
> > > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
> > > >
> > > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
> > >
> > > A sales ranking came across the sky.
> >
> > The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>
> "Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
With a fork, right?
--
Phil Fraering "One day, Pinky, A MOUSE shall rule, and it is the
p...@globalreach.net humans who will be forced to endure these humiliating
/Will work for tape/ diversions!"
"You mean like Orlando, Brain?"
Jonathan W Hendry
> Andrew C. Wheeler <andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
>> In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
> The sales ranking dilated.
I have no sales ranking and I must scream.
Vicki Rosenzweig
17:45:06 GMT:
>On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:43:26 +0100, Iain Rowan <ia...@reynir.co.uk> wrote:
>>On 30 Sep 2000 07:49:08 GMT, ne...@centauri.org (Damien Neil) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:35:06 +0100,
>>>Ken MacLeod <k...@libertaria.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A sales ranking came across the sky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
>>>>
>>>>'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the salesman.
>>>
Rassef Award, with high sales rankings.
--
Vicki Rosenzweig | v...@redbird.org
r.a.sf.f faq at http://www.redbird.org/rassef-faq.html
Cally Soukup
>> Mary Kay Kare wrote:
I bought mine from the local Barnes and Noble on Thursday, and saw
copies in the local Borders on Friday.
(I'm only about 1/3 of the way through, by forcing myself to do other
stuff, such as keep trying to get caught up on Usenet. But it's
really good so far.....)
--
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend
to the death your right to say it." -- Beatrice Hall
Cally Soukup sou...@pobox.com
Jonathan W Hendry
> Quoth er...@physiciansedge.com (Erik V. Olson) on Sat, 30 Sep 2000
>>
>>upon this continent, a new novel, concieved in whimsy and dedicated to the
>>proposition that all sales were created equal, as well as to the author's
>>editor and significant other.
<snip>
> Rassef Award, with high sales rankings.
Is that pending the result of drug tests, or is it final?
Doug Wickstrom
<O...@46thFoot.com> excited the ether to say:
>In article <1ehsbu9.m25wef1f0t2brN%zeb...@altavista.com>, Zeborah
><zeb...@altavista.com> writes
>>Andrew C. Wheeler <andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
>>> Ken MacLeod wrote:
>>> In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
>>The sales ranking dilated.
>"I'm not a number, I'm a sales ranking!"
The sales ranking snapped to attention.
--
Doug Wickstrom
"On my best days, I'm not perfect, I'm just performing admirably under
circumstances that happen to aid me." --Josh Jasper
Jonathan W Hendry
> In article <39d6...@news.depaul.edu>,
> And what, in this context, is the form of _passing_ a drug test? Does
> it mean the absence of drugs, or the presence of them? What are the
> relevant performance-enhancing drugs? What dosages? Where can
> aspiring writers obtain a reliable supply?
Clearly, mere pseudoephedrine wouldn't pass. Or fail. Whatever.
Richard Horton
On 30 Sep 2000 07:24:58 GMT, Ed Dravecky III <e...@panix.com> wrote:
>In rec.arts.sf.fandom Alia <fno...@home.com> wrote:
>> Bill Snyder wrote:
>> > "Andrew C. Wheeler" <andyw...@ultracom.net> wrote:
>> > > Ken MacLeod wrote:
>> > > > Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes
>> > > > > John Boston wrote:
>> > > > > > Bruce Baugh wrote:
>> > > > > > > av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>> > > > > > > > "The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in
>> > > > > > > > the low thousands."
>> > > > > > > A sales ranking came across the sky.
>> > > > > > The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>> > > > > "Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a
>> > > > > sales ranking."
>> > > > 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the
>> > > > salesman.
>> > > In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
>> > The sales ranking lived in a black and gray world, punctuated by
>> > the white lightening of hunger and the flickering of fear.
>> Suddenly, a shot rang out. The sales ranking slumped to the floor.
>
>It was the best of sales rankings, it was the worst of sales rankings.
"The Sales Ranking is back!"
--
Rich Horton | Stable Email: mailto://richard...@sff.net
Home Page: http://www.sff.net/people/richard.horton
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mike weber
typed
>Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <hig...@fnal.gov> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Boston wrote:
>>
>> > Bruce Baugh wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <avram-29090...@manhattan.crossover.com>, av...@bigfoot.com (Avram Grumer) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >> Teresa Nielsen Hayden has observed that watching those Amazon
>> > > >> "sales ranks" is about as useful as watching the the snow on an
>> > > >> untuned television screen for secret messages.
>> > > >
>> > > >"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the low thousands."
>> > >
>> > > A sales ranking came across the sky.
>> >
>> > The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
>>
>> "Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a sales ranking."
>
>With a fork, right?
>
Onna stick.
--
"A cat who sits on a hot stove will never sit on a hot stove
again. She will also never sit on a cold one." Mark Twain
<mike weber> <kras...@mindspring.com>
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jhe...@my-deja.com
Jonathan W Hendry <jhe...@ux1.depaul.edu> wrote:
> In rec.arts.sf.composition Vicki Rosenzweig <v...@redbird.org> wrote:
> > Quoth er...@physiciansedge.com (Erik V. Olson) on Sat, 30 Sep 2000
> >>
> >>Four score and seven sales rankings ago, our founding authors
brought forth
> >>upon this continent, a new novel, concieved in whimsy and dedicated
to the
> >>proposition that all sales were created equal, as well as to the
author's
> >>editor and significant other.
>
> <snip>
>
> > Rassef Award, with high sales rankings.
>
> Is that pending the result of drug tests, or is it final?
>
And what, in this context, is the form of _passing_ a drug test? Does
it mean the absence of drugs, or the presence of them? What are the
relevant performance-enhancing drugs? What dosages? Where can
aspiring writers obtain a reliable supply?
--
Jim
"I am but mad north-northwest: when the wind is southerly I know a
hawk from a handsaw."
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Ray Radlein
> > > > > > John Boston wrote:
> > > > > > > Bruce Baugh wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales
> > > > > > > > > rankings in the low thousands."
> > > > > > > > A sales ranking came across the sky.
> > > > > > > The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at
> > > > > > > him.
> > > > > > "Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to
> > > > > > kill a sales ranking."
> > > > > 'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,'
> > > > > said the salesman.
> > > > In a hole in the ground there lived a sales ranking.
> > > The sales ranking lived in a black and gray world,
> > > punctuated by the white lightening of hunger and the
> > > flickering of fear.
> > Suddenly, a shot rang out. The sales ranking slumped to the
> > floor.
> rankings.
What it is to be old is to remember sales rankings that nobody else
alive can remember.
Ray Radlein
>
> ne...@centauri.org (Damien Neil) wrote:
> >Ken MacLeod <k...@libertaria.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>"The sky was the color of Amazon.com sales rankings in the
> >>>>>>low thousands."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A sales ranking came across the sky.
> >>>>
> >>>> The sales ranking opened a blue eye and looked at him.
> >>>
> >>>"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a
> >>>sales ranking."
> >>
> >>'In five years, the sales ranking will be obsolete,' said the
> >>salesman.
> >
>
> We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when
> the sales rankings began to take hold.
salesranking, past Barnes and Noble's, from swerve of shore to bend of
bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
Amazon.com and Environs.
Phil Fraering
> In article <39d6...@news.depaul.edu>,
> Jonathan W Hendry <jhe...@ux1.depaul.edu> wrote:
> > In rec.arts.sf.composition Vicki Rosenzweig <v...@redbird.org> wrote:
> > > Quoth er...@physiciansedge.com (Erik V. Olson) on Sat, 30 Sep 2000
> > >>
> > >>Four score and seven sales rankings ago, our founding authors
> brought forth
> > >>upon this continent, a new novel, concieved in whimsy and dedicated
> to the
> > >>proposition that all sales were created equal, as well as to the
> author's
> > >>editor and significant other.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Rassef Award, with high sales rankings.
> >
> > Is that pending the result of drug tests, or is it final?
> >
>
> And what, in this context, is the form of _passing_ a drug test? Does
> it mean the absence of drugs, or the presence of them? What are the
> relevant performance-enhancing drugs? What dosages? Where can
> aspiring writers obtain a reliable supply?
Sir, I'm afraid we're going to have to test you for sales rankings.