Was there/will there ever be a Revolution reunion? (from abmp)
Bart Van Hemelen
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<dontc...@yaknew.bs> really say the following on the subject of
"Re: Was there/will there ever be a Revolution reunion?" in
alt.binaries.multimedia.prince on Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:22:08 GMT:
>I did an interview w/ Doctor Fink on April 5th of this year, via phone,
>which will air for the whole month of May on my radio show, links below. He
>talks about why the Revolution was the favorite band formation among many
>friends, despite it being a relatively short period when compared to
>Prince's career as a whole, the Revolution breakup, etc etc.
>
>I now have the pleasure of now knowing Matt Fink, and talking to him weekly
>via phone. The 2000 Celebration was almost a full Revolution reunion, but
>because of Prince's lack of a formal invitation in a timely manner, Wendy
>and Lisa couldn't come. They wanted to though. Prince wanted W&L to
>complete Roadhouse Garden (as coproducers) with him, but wasn't willing to
>pay them, or even cover their room and board while there. They weren't
>going to work for free. When Roadhouse Garden was starting to get some
>press in 1998 or so, it was about that time that they were going to get the
>album out and maybe do a few gigs as a band to promote it. Larry Graham
>entered the picture and started passing out his Watchtower pamphlets.
>Prince soon decided that he and the band weren't on the same "spiritual
>level", and kinda dropped the project as a whole because none of the band
>were going to drop their beliefs and become JW's, or even vegans. Of course
>Prince kinda blamed stuff on Wendy and Lisa during that time in the press.
>Prince had even wanted Brownmark back in the band and was going to replace
>Larry Graham around 2000, partly because Mark had always been a Jehovah's
>Witness, even back in the 80's. It's no surprise that Mark was the only
>person Prince called directly and invited him to the show in 2000, and even
>flew him out. No surprise since Mark was a JW and the others weren't.
>None of the others got a formal invite, just the blurb on his website. Mark
>said no about joining the band because Prince told him despite him being a
>JW, he'd still have to change a few things, as well as become a vegan and
>loose some weight. Mark told him thanks but no thanks.
>
>Prince was even supposed to have Wendy and Lisa for a one performance
>appearance at some VH1 awards, and he wanted Lisa to walk in w/ a keyboard
>strapped on her, and he said she wasn't comfortable w/ that. So instead of
>figuring something else out, Prince said "oh well, nevermind then." End of
>that. I think Wendy & Lisa just want some respect from him. It's no doubt
>they're talented people and do wonderful music whether it's for TV shows,
>movies or their own albums. Too bad Prince can't just suck it up, and be
>real for once w/ them.
>
>So will there ever be a Revolution reunion? Not anytime soon unfortunately.
>Ever? Who knows.
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"Bart Van Hemelen" <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bart Van Hemelen
say the following on the subject of "Re: Was there/will there ever be
2002 01:37:38 +0100:
>good post, can't believe Prince sometimes.....
Oh, I can. Actually, IIRC, I said the basics of that post in a PPML
post when people were bitching about W&L not being at the Celebration
(though I never guessed it could have been this bad). It fits right in
with his modus operandi.
Read a story in Belgian magazine Humo today, where Raf Winten, a
member of Belgian band Zornik told about his experience with Prince
when he was a limo driver who worked for a concert promotor. His exact
words: "if I ever get to meet him again, I'm gonna kick him in the
nuts so hard they're dangling up here" (pointing to a location about
half a meter above his head). Turns out Prince communicated via notes,
which he gave to his manager who in turn gave it to Raf. Once, when he
was driving Prince from Brussels to Ghent, he received a note saying
"drive faster", to which Raf replied "I can't because there's a speed
limit". But there was no use in arguing, Raf had to accellerate. Of
course, a minute or so after he started driving a lot faster, he
received a new note: "drive slower"...
Neversin
> Turns out Prince communicated via notes,
> which he gave to his manager who in turn gave it to Raf. Once, when he
> was driving Prince from Brussels to Ghent, he received a note saying
> "drive faster", to which Raf replied "I can't because there's a speed
> limit". But there was no use in arguing, Raf had to accellerate. Of
> course, a minute or so after he started driving a lot faster, he
> received a new note: "drive slower"...
LOL!
I find this pretty amusing...
Neversin.
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Lorne
>which he gave to his manager who in turn gave it to Raf. Once, when he
>was driving Prince from Brussels to Ghent, he received a note saying
>"drive faster", to which Raf replied "I can't because there's a speed
>limit". But there was no use in arguing, Raf had to accellerate. Of
>course, a minute or so after he started driving a lot faster, he
>received a new note: "drive slower"...
If only he'd saved those notes, he could be making a fortune on e-Bay
right now.
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"Lorne" <lorn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bart Van Hemelen wrote:>Turns out Prince communicated via notes,
> >which he gave to his manager who in turn gave it to Raf. Once, when he
> >was driving Prince from Brussels to Ghent, he received a note saying
> >"drive faster", to which Raf replied "I can't because there's a speed
> >limit". But there was no use in arguing, Raf had to accellerate. Of
> >course, a minute or so after he started driving a lot faster, he
> >received a new note: "drive slower"...
>
> If only he'd saved those notes, he could be making a fortune on e-Bay
> right now.
> -----
> Lorne
Shhh! You're ruining my ebay scam!
HoneyBear
> Dunno why this was an abmp only post...
>
> >
> >Prince had even wanted Brownmark back in the band and was going to replace
> >Larry Graham around 2000, partly because Mark had always been a Jehovah's
> >Witness, even back in the 80's. It's no surprise that Mark was the only
> >person Prince called directly and invited him to the show in 2000, and even
> >flew him out. No surprise since Mark was a JW and the others weren't.
> >None of the others got a formal invite, just the blurb on his website. Mark
> >said no about joining the band because Prince told him despite him being a
> >JW, he'd still have to change a few things, as well as become a vegan and
> >loose some weight. Mark told him thanks but no thanks.
> >
> >
There's an interview with Brownmark in a book called "Prince: A Pop
Life" by Dave Hill, copywrite 1989. Mark says that Prince was abusive.
From page 189:
"He told me when I first joined the band, he says, 'Don't ever argue
with me. Even if I'm wrong, I'm right.' Those were his exact words. I
went through a lot of head-trips and heartaches. I got brutally,
mentally mutilated by things that were done to me with no
explanation...."
Still only eighteen, just a year out of high school, Brown says he
found the pressures close to impossible. "I was unhappy, and it
started showing in my weight. I started gaining weight and I started
drinking. I used to get drunk every night. There were times when I
cried. I'd call my momma and say 'I wanna come home.' She'd tell me,
'Hang in there.'
"Once I broke a guitar string on stage and he cussed me out in front
of 15,000 people. I remember once we had a head-on collision on stage.
To make him look good and to play it off, he pushed me down on my
back. I got up and he pushed me down again. He drop-kicked me three
times; the last time I ended up half over the drum riser."
Brown accumulated a litany of resentments which culminated in his
resignation from the group. He says that Prince wanted him to
continue, but Brown had had enough. He claims he was broke.
"I didn't have a penny, man. I didn't have a cent."
EnDoRpHiN
with a weight problem . . .
HoneyBear wrote:
> There's an interview with Brownmark in a book called "Prince: A Pop
> Life" by Dave Hill, copywrite 1989. Mark says that Prince was abusive.
> From page 189:
>
> "He told me when I first joined the band, he says, 'Don't ever argue
> with me. Even if I'm wrong, I'm right.' Those were his exact words. I
> went through a lot of head-trips and heartaches. I got brutally,
> mentally mutilated by things that were done to me with no
> explanation...."
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Bart Van Hemelen
<tenthousa...@yahoo.com> really say the following on the subject
of "Re: Was there/will there ever be a Revolution reunion? (from
>>good post, can't believe Prince sometimes.....
>
>Oh, I can. Actually, IIRC, I said the basics of that post in a PPML
>post when people were bitching about W&L not being at the Celebration
>(though I never guessed it could have been this bad). It fits right in
>with his modus operandi.
>
>Read a story in Belgian magazine Humo today, where Raf Winten, a
>member of Belgian band Zornik
Oops, made a mistake, he isn't a band member but their tour manager.