Forbes ranks fiction's wealthiest characters
Len-L
15. Jay Gatsby $600 million
14. Gordon Gekko $650 million
13. Cruella De Vil $875 million
12. Charles Kane $1 billion
11. C. Montgomery Burns $1 billion
10. Auric Goldfinger $1.2 billion
9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
6. Willie Wonka $8 billion
5. Thurston Howell III $8 billion
4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
3. Oliver Warbucks $10 billion
2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
and the number 1 is...
Santa Clause, . . . because of "toy manufacturing operations at North
Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
Len-L
Dead to Rights
>7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
I thought Lex was several orders of magnitude richer than Bruce.
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On October 3, 2002, Blackcomb the Clone admitted to the world that I sent him
into hysterics.
Jim Longo
> 12. Charles Kane $1 billion
Who?
Brenda W. Clough
You know -- Citizen Kane. (Doubtless Charles is his middle name.)
Brenda
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> You know -- Citizen Kane. (Doubtless Charles is his middle name.)
No: his full name is Charles Foster Kane. He wants to be considered as just
a citizen, hence the title of the film.
Patrick
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Brenda W. Clough <clo...@erols.com> wrote:
>Jim Longo wrote:
>>Len-L <les...@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com>...
>>>12. Charles Kane $1 billion
>>Who?
>You know -- Citizen Kane. (Doubtless Charles is his middle name.)
Nope. Charles Foster Kane.
And while I suppose I can accept Santa Claus coming out on top, no way
that punk Richie Rich is richer than Scrooge McDuck.
tyg t...@Panix.com
Patrick MARCEL
> And while I suppose I can accept Santa Claus coming out on top, no way
> that punk Richie Rich is richer than Scrooge McDuck.
You and me both. ^__^
Patrick
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>> 12. Charles Kane $1 billion
Jom Longo asked:
>Who?
Just your average Citizen....
Chris...
Brian Doyle
But he owns the billion dollar bill, on TOP of all his other assets... Well he did
have until he allowed Castro to borrow it for a minute.
Carlos Hernandez
>Nope. Charles Foster Kane.
But why is Santa Claus on this list? He's not fiction...
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Jeremy Henderson
Shame on you...that was a 1 TRILLION dollar bill. Consider your
Simpsons Geek privileges revoked.
Jeremy Henderson
4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
I distinctly recall Scrooge McDuck saying in an episode of DuckTales
that he had 42 quadrillion dollars.
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Les Bonser
of the character? If the later, Gatsby, Kane, and Goldfinger would be a lot
higher considering inflation.
And no way in hell is Richie Rich richer than McDuck!
On 10/09/2002 06:33 AM, in article
obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com, "Len-L" <les...@spamcop.net>
wrote:
slickpuppy
message news:ao2b09$k7r$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > 11. C. Montgomery Burns $1 billion
>
> But he owns the billion dollar bill, on TOP of all his other assets...
Well he did
> have until he allowed Castro to borrow it for a minute.
Worst evil tycoon ever.
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merit, you would stay out, and your
dog would go in."
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Les Bonser
On 10/09/2002 06:33 AM, in article
obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com, "Len-L" <les...@spamcop.net>
wrote:
> For full story, see http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
niteowlned
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Maybe Ducks can't count? :-}
niteowlned
Hmm - toy making monopoly, workforce paid only in room and board and that
worthless 'elf money', saves on food bills by bringing back tons of free
cookies and milk, no taxes, and he has all those surrogates in the malls and
street corners collecting donations, not to mention the licensing of
Christmas, Santa; the first real trillionaire.
What about Midas? (not the muffler guy!!!!) - even after he lost the power
he still had a ton of stuff he turned into gold!
Lex has more money than Bruce and I don't think CK was that rich JR
Ewing either, unless he made a killing with his ENRON stock. I think
somebody from Arthur Anderson was in charge of evaluating these accounts.
CB
That was the trillion dollar bill.
Brenda W. Clough
on TV or movies. For instance I am sure that Vandal Savage and Ra's al
Ghul have huge fortunes.
Brenda
Les Bonser wrote:
LArry Stanley
Len-L wrote:
This is great. Thanks for posting it. It is nice to see that Bruce is
richer then Lex Luthor.
But, what's this crap about Santa being fictional?
LArry Stanley
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Jim Longo wrote:
Citizen Kane. Great movie.
No one tell him who 'Rosebud' is.
LArry Stanley
Jeremy Henderson wrote:
>
> 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
>
> I distinctly recall Scrooge McDuck saying in an episode of DuckTales
> that he had 42 quadrillion dollars.
That's in Duckburg money. Once translated to US dollars, there is quite a bit of difference.
I once worked in a bank. Well, until they opened the next day and almost caught me.
mar...@yahoo.com
Kpa2972
And what about Howard Hughes?. He's borderline fictional ;)
Kevin Robinson
> "Len-L" <les...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com...
> > For full story, see http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
> >
> > 2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
> >
> > and the number 1 is...
> >
I rather doubt that Richie Rich has as much money as his
Dad, Richard Rich, let alone McDuck. If Scrooge has fallen
down from the heights, it can only be because of one of his
periodic business reverses, or a Beagle Boy attack, from which
he will eventually rebound, victorious, tougher, wiser, and,
of course, richer than ever.
Hmmm... Scrooge, Donald and the nephews versus unscrupulous
CEO's, who curiously wear weird round sunglasses, and designer
striped henleys with odd numeric trademarks, in the modern
"business casual" mode, convince McDuck to get in on the ground
floor of their high-tech schemes to lay ocean communication cable,
wheel power, etc. Calling Don Rosa!
There is always the possibility that Scrooge has so much dough
tied up in fabulously rare coin in the Money Bin that no estimator
could conceive of just how much those doubloons their owner goes
swimming in are actually worth, because few know what is all in
there, and journalists aren't getting a tour.
> > Santa Claus, . . . because of "toy manufacturing operations at North
> > Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
Uh, Mr. Forbes' editors are neglecting an important point.
The LATE Bishop of Myra ain't ALIVE. He's a spirit, a ghost,
he has joined the choir invisible. Heck, he's a saint! I don't
know if Nick took a vow of poverty when he took orders, but dead
priests, even more than live ones, don't own much stuff. I see
Santa as basically the head of a non-profit organization. The toy
shop doesn't produce revenue, it expends it.
Kevin
Patrick MARCEL
> The LATE Bishop of Myra ain't ALIVE.
Well, Gatsby isn't very sprightly, these days, either. And, unless memory
fails me dracstically, isn't the whole starting point of CITIZEN KANE Kane's
DEATH? So, obviously, these aren't current fortunes, but supposed to be
estimated fortunes at their best...
Brian Doyle
Argh!!
Actually, that shows how up to date Forbes is then, doesn't it? Hardly good
news for their investment portfolio...
"Was that a billion or a trillion they made last year?"
"What's the difference?"
"I dunno."
The Napoleon of Crime
> 9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
They can't be adjusting for inflation on this one. I mean, if J.R.
could have afforded a giant laser beam and a derby-tossing assassin,
he would have had one.
> 8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
> 7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
I agree that this doesn't sound right; maybe it's post-election for
Lex, i.e., after he divested much of his holdings when he became
president.
> 3. Oliver Warbucks $10 billion
At his height. One has to remember that Warbucks goes up and down the
poverty/wealth scale like a yo-yo. For a guy with a reputation as one
of the smartest capitalists on the planet, he seems rather poor at
policing his wealth. (My guess is that he lost a lot in the .com
crash.)
> 2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
But you don't hear from him much these days. Rumors are that he's
holed up in a hotel in Vegas, watching ICE STATION ZEBRA over and over
and over again... (Art imitates Life.)
> and the number 1 is...
>
>
> Santa Clause, . . . because of "toy manufacturing operations at North
> Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
...and... UNLIMITED POWER!
"Daddy, Daddy, make
Santa Claus go away!"
"I can't, son;
he's grown too
powerful."
"HO HO HO!"
Jeff Meyer, N.C., N.Q.D.Y.
[Not Quite Dead Yet]
Jim Longo
> Jim Longo wrote:
>
> >Len-L <les...@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com>...
> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> You know -- Citizen Kane. (Doubtless Charles is his middle name.)
>
Well, color me embarrassed. Methinks it's been too long since I
watched that movie......
Thanx, Brenda.
j.
Doug Haxton
>C'mon. Veronica Lodge. Of the Riverdale Lodges, of course.
Which brings up the question: Who's richer, the Lodges or the Cabots?
Doug
Doug Haxton
>For full story, see http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
>
>15. Jay Gatsby $600 million
>14. Gordon Gekko $650 million
>13. Cruella De Vil $875 million
>12. Charles Kane $1 billion
>11. C. Montgomery Burns $1 billion
>10. Auric Goldfinger $1.2 billion
>9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
>8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
>7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
>6. Willie Wonka $8 billion
>5. Thurston Howell III $8 billion
>4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
>3. Oliver Warbucks $10 billion
>2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
Scrooge McDuck less wealthy than Richie Rich? No way. Rich lives in
a bizarre alternate world where diamonds the size of a Buick are only
rare, not impossible. In terms of real buying power, the McDuck
financial empire dwarfs that of the Rich's. Besides, Richie's nothing
but a pampered brat who's had the world handed to him on a platinmum
platter.
McDuck, on the other hand, was smarter than the smarties, and tougher
than the toughies.
And he made it square.
Doug
Doug Haxton
<bevh...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Scrooge McDuck less wealthy than Richie Rich? No way. Rich lives in
>a bizarre alternate world where diamonds the size of a Buick are only
>rare, not impossible. In terms of real buying power, the McDuck
>financial empire dwarfs that of the Rich's. Besides, Richie's nothing
>but a pampered brat who's had the world handed to him on a platinmum
>platter.
BTW...what was with all these *bizzare* characters over at Harvey?
You have:
A) Richie Rich...an obscenly wealthy kid who invites his poor-as-dirt
friend Peewee over to play with solid gold toys...and then waves
goodbye to him as he walks home to a starvation-level supper.
B) Dot, whose obsession with dots is at a level sufficient to put her
in a psycho ward for the next few decades.
C) Little Lotta, whose entire worldview revolves around the fact that
she loves food and weighs 400 lbs.
D) Baby Huey....a 7 foot tall duck wearing a diaper. Nightmare
fodder.
E) Casper the friendly ghost. A little boy...who happens to be dead!
F) Hot Stuff. A demon.
Put down those EC comics, Dr. Wertham. *This* is the stuff that needs
to be kept out of the hands of impressionalbe young minds!
Doug
John M. Gamble
LArry Stanley <ufb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>Jim Longo wrote:
>
>> Len-L <les...@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com>...
>> > 12. Charles Kane $1 billion
>>
>> Who?
>
>Citizen Kane. Great movie.
>No one tell him who 'Rosebud' is.
>
Too late. "Peanuts" spoiled that for me. Damn you, Lucy Van Pelt!
--
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February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.
Dr Hermes
Hey, Doc Savage should be near the top of that list. At his peak, he
owned thousands of businesses like airlines and newspapers, he had
patents and royalties on many advanced inventions, and best of all, he
had unlimited access to the vast golden hoard of the ancient Mayans.
And even before all this, in the darkest days of the Depression, he
owned the top floor of the Empire State Bulding. He had a personal
budget bigger than that of most countries.
The Operative
> Any why the heck isn't Tony Stark on the list???
Can T'Challa get some love? Puma? Kingpin? Edwin Alva?
Sorry, losing it, heh.
-Hannibal Tabu
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Brian Doyle
"John M. Gamble" <jga...@ripco.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3DA4F371...@earthlink.net>,
> LArry Stanley <ufb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Jim Longo wrote:
> >
> >> Len-L <les...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:<obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com>...
> >> > 12. Charles Kane $1 billion
> >>
> >> Who?
> >
> >Citizen Kane. Great movie.
> >No one tell him who 'Rosebud' is.
> >
>
> Too late. "Peanuts" spoiled that for me. Damn you, Lucy Van Pelt!
Darn right! The football tugging harpy ruined it for me too!
Brian Doyle
"Doug Haxton" <bevh...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:gkibquciq4rch05ng...@4ax.com...
> Put down those EC comics, Dr. Wertham. *This* is the stuff that needs
> to be kept out of the hands of impressionalbe young minds!
Don't forget that teenage dabbler in the black arts, Sabrina, who doubtless sold her
soul to Satan in some vile ceremony in return for her diabolical powers!
Gordon Gekko
>
> 15. Jay Gatsby $600 million
> 14. Gordon Gekko $650 million
> 13. Cruella De Vil $875 million
> 10. Auric Goldfinger $1.2 billion
> 9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
> 8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
> 7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
> 6. Willie Wonka $8 billion
> 5. Thurston Howell III $8 billion
> 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
> 3. Oliver Warbucks $10 billion
> 2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
>
> and the number 1 is...
I'm worth more than that. Who made up this stupid article? And who
the hell Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne are comic book characters. They
don't count. Only characters from books and movies with genuine
artistic merit should be allowed in this survey.
Brian Doyle
"Gordon Gekko" <gordong...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm worth more than that. Who made up this stupid article? And who
> the hell Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne are comic book characters.
Hate to break it to you, but so are Daddy Warbucks and Scrooge McDuck.
> They don't count. Only characters from books and movies with genuine
> artistic merit should be allowed in this survey.
Why? It says "fiction" in the thread heading, all those listed qualify.
BritReid
Hey, Doc Savage should be near the top of that list. At his peak, he owned
thousands of businesses like airlines and newspapers, he had patents and
royalties on many advanced inventions, and best of all, he
had unlimited access to the vast golden hoard of the ancient Mayans.
And even before all this, in the darkest days of the Depression, he owned the
top floor of the Empire State Bulding. He had a personal budget bigger than
that of most countries.
If you're gonna talk about millionares who are no longer published, where's
Lamont Cranston (who had Inca gold at his disposal)?
Or Britt Reid?
Or Tony Stark?
Or tv's THE MILLIONAIRE, who gave away a milion dollars a week? (You gotta be
loaded to do THAT!)
Brit
Tom Galloway
BritReid <brit...@aol.comnostuff> wrote:
>Or tv's THE MILLIONAIRE, who gave away a milion dollars a week? (You gotta be
>loaded to do THAT!)
Not really. A billion dollars would suffice to be able to do that out of
interest with a bit left over for living expenses without touching the
principal. Although with inflation, John Beresford Tipton is probably up
in the top 20 or so worldwide, given the show aired in the late 50s back
when a billion was really big money.
But it reminds me of a few years back when Bill Gates made a $20 million
or so donation to Harvard that was touted as the largest donation they'd
ever received. I recall figuring that at 6% interest, Bill had just donated
around a week's worth of income from his then current net worth.
tyg t...@Panix.com
Doug Haxton
Well, actually...she did. Check out her first few stories. She was
*not* on the side of the angels when she first appeared!
Doug
hi...@seark.net
Sabrina The Teenage Witch is an Archie Comics character. Wendy the Good
Little Witch is from Harvey Comics.
Kevin Robinson
not that he would.
Lodges? Cabots? What about the Henhouses?
*>Buck-ba-Caaawwwwwww!!!!!!<*
Kevin
Knew the job was dangerous
when he took it!
The Napoleon of Crime
Evil to the core... but she's so gosh-darned cute!
"The devil can cite the Scriptures for his purpose;
but the eternal true devil can cite the Simpsons
for his purpose."
-- Roger X. Carasso
COLIERRANND2
>sold her
>soul to Satan in some vile ceremony in return for her diabolical powers!
And sold her soul to Harvey to stay a teenager even in college!
Col
Read Captain Marvel and Power Company. You won't regret it in the least.
COLIERRANND2
>You have:
<snip>
Doug this is possibly the best laugh I have had in at least a week. Thanks.
Richard B. Becker
> > On 9 Oct 2002 17:49:56 -0400, t...@panix.com (Tom Galloway) wrote:
> >
> > >In article <3DA4A09B...@erols.com>,
> > >Brenda W. Clough <clo...@erols.com> wrote:
> > >>Jim Longo wrote:
> > >>>Len-L <les...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:<obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com>...
> > >>You know -- Citizen Kane. (Doubtless Charles is his middle name.)
> > >
> > >
> > >And while I suppose I can accept Santa Claus coming out on top, no way
> > >that punk Richie Rich is richer than Scrooge McDuck.
> >
> > 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
> >
> > that he had 42 quadrillion dollars.
>
> Maybe Ducks can't count? :-}
No fingers.
--Richard
Richard B. Becker
>
> For full story, see http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
>
> 15. Jay Gatsby $600 million
> 14. Gordon Gekko $650 million
> 13. Cruella De Vil $875 million
> 10. Auric Goldfinger $1.2 billion
> 9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
> 8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
> 7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
> 6. Willie Wonka $8 billion
> 5. Thurston Howell III $8 billion
> 2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
>
> and the number 1 is...
>
> Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
>
> Len-L
Ok, so they left off a couple of major ones (whoever mentioned the
Beverly Hillbillies in a previous post was right, not to mention
other comic characters like Tony Stark), but you've got to give
them credit for doing their homework. They actually mention that
Bruce Wayne had a tough year after girlfriend Vesper Fairchild
was murdered and that Lex Luthor is president in their article.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm impressed.
--Richard
Terrafamilia
Les Bonser wrote:
> Any why the heck isn't Tony Stark on the list???
>
> On 10/09/2002 06:33 AM, in article
> obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com, "Len-L" <les...@spamcop.net>
> wrote:
>
> > For full story, see http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
> >
> > 15. Jay Gatsby $600 million
> > 14. Gordon Gekko $650 million
> > 13. Cruella De Vil $875 million
> > 12. Charles Kane $1 billion
> > 11. C. Montgomery Burns $1 billion
> > 10. Auric Goldfinger $1.2 billion
> > 9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
> > 8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
> > 7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
> > 6. Willie Wonka $8 billion
> > 5. Thurston Howell III $8 billion
> > 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
> > 3. Oliver Warbucks $10 billion
> > 2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
> >
> > and the number 1 is...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Santa Clause, . . . because of "toy manufacturing operations at North
> > Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
Where would the Phantom fall on such a list? In addition to a room full of
gold & jewels he has a room full of stuff which would be priceless, such as
-
The sword of King Arthur -- Excalibur
The sword of Roland -- Durandal
The ivory horn of Roland
The asp that bit Cleopatra
Cleopatra's wedding ring from Mark Antony
A tiny ark made from the wood of Noah's ark
A golden flower
Caesar's laurel crown
The Diamond Cup of Alexander the Great
The original script of Hamlet in Shakespeare's own handwriting
The great ring of Nebuchadnezzar
The necklace of Nefertiti
The lyre of the blind poet Homer
Ciao,
Terrafamilia
LArry Stanley
Kevin Robinson wrote:
> Where is J.D. Clampett?
Lost all his money when Mr. Drysdale took off with everything. Seems
Uncle Jed was a bit too trusting. He went back to the farm, Ellie Mae
became a Vet, I don't remember what happened to Jethro..... maybe into
Politics?
Granny died.
There was a Bio on one of the channels that showed Jed back on the old
homestead, with no money, living quite happy, and dropping his knife on
the ground, and oil coming up. Again. But, it never led anywhere. I just
figured he cut into a line, or found a place where someone had spilled
oil recently.
I figure he's out there, somewhere. Eating possum and grits.
Yum Yum....
LArry Stanley
Who really does miss the Ozarks.
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Brenda W. Clough
I always assumed that the Phantom (or his forefathers) was a sucker for
fake antiquities. In other words, he may -believe- it's the necklace of
Nefertiti, but is it really? Also its value is only determined if he
sells it. While he holds it, it may or may not be worth anything at all.
Brenda
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hi...@seark.net
> Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
>
This is really stupid. Everyone knows that Santa Claus is magical and has
elves help make toys to give away for free. He would be among the poorest
individuals, not the richest.
Now King Midas, that would be a rich mofo.
ronin
>Who really does miss the Ozarks.
Ozarks. are they for when Seattle floods? they get enough rain
there. hell, if it only takes 40 days and 40 nights....
or maybe Australia?
JAC
Terrafamilia
"Brenda W. Clough" wrote:
But then again, given that he inhabits a fictional world, they could very well
be authentic.
How about Tarzan? He's got all that gold from the city of Opar in addition to
real estate in England and Africa. Not that he cares about money for money's
sake.
Ciao,
Terrafamilia
COLIERRANND2
>elves help make toys to give away for free. He would be among the poorest
>individuals, not the richest.
Not true. Rumor is he moved the factory to Korea for cheaper labor...after
talking to Kathy Lee and Disney he discovered 7 year olds work much cheaper
than elves!
Don Rosa
You rang?
Yes, I'd already heard about this silly FORBES article... ranking the
richest man on earth as #4 with a mere 8 billion dollars!!! $crooge
has 8 billion dollars in his junk drawer in the kitchen!
The problem with the FORBES article is that it was written by an
American, so you see that reflected in the choice of characters
mentioned -- this was simply a ranking of the popularity or renown of
the listed characters *only in America*. A piker like Richie Rich is
listed above $crooge only because Harvey comics outlasted Disney
comics on the newsstands here, as well as the fact there were several
bad movies made of Richie Rich in recent years (and the American
public is a sucker for really bad movies!). $crooge McDuck comics
outsold Richie Rich comics about 8.2 billion to 1 back in the 50's &
60's, but they faded from the scene because the publisher lost
interest in the collapsing American comic market -- since Western
Publishing did not own the Disney characters, there was no reason to
struggle to exist in a failing publishing medium, so $crooge
disappeared from North America.
Now, if it had been a European or, really, ANY nationality publisher
other than American who published the article, there would have been
NO question whatsoever that $crooge McDuck is OBVIOUSLY the richest
man in the world with Flintheart Glomgold at #2, both light-years
ahead of that Rich kid or his father. In Europe $crooge is more
popular than Mickey Mouse, and every man on the street knows he's the
richest guy on earth.
(And what FORBES idiot came up with that "8.2 billion dollar" amount?!
What slander! Everyone {in Europe} knows $crooge has 14
fantasticatillion, 37 impossibilillion, 21 incredibidillion, 10
skyrillion dollars and 16 cents.)
Brian Doyle
"Don Rosa" <don...@iglou.com> wrote in message
news:8f032555.02101...@posting.google.com...
> listed above $crooge only because Harvey comics outlasted Disney
> comics on the newsstands here, as well as the fact there were several
> bad movies made of Richie Rich in recent years (and the American
> public is a sucker for really bad movies!). $crooge McDuck comics
> outsold Richie Rich comics about 8.2 billion to 1 back in the 50's &
> 60's, but they faded from the scene because the publisher lost
> interest in the collapsing American comic market -- since Western
> Publishing did not own the Disney characters, there was no reason to
> struggle to exist in a failing publishing medium, so $crooge
> disappeared from North America.
Apart from his starring role in the highly popular "Duck Tales" series that ran for a
few years in the US (And still in reruns) during the 80's and into the 90's, and kept
the character more active on TV than Richie Rich has been.
> (And what FORBES idiot came up with that "8.2 billion dollar" amount?!
> What slander! Everyone {in Europe} knows $crooge has 14
> fantasticatillion, 37 impossibilillion, 21 incredibidillion, 10
> skyrillion dollars and 16 cents.)
Obviously 14 fantasticatillion just don't buy what it used to though! :)
hi...@seark.net
Does that figure include his number one dime?
Since so many 1980s properties have been revived (He-Man, Transformers,
etc.) I would love to see new episodes of DuckTales (without those modern
twists that were applied to Goof Troop and Quack Pack).
Daibhid Chiennedelh
>From: don...@iglou.com (Don Rosa)
>Date: 13/10/02 15:08 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8f032555.02101...@posting.google.com>
>
>kev...@my-deja.com (Kevin Robinson) wrote in message
>> > > 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
>> > > Calling Don Rosa!
>
>You rang?
>
>Yes, I'd already heard about this silly FORBES article... ranking the
>richest man on earth as #4
and again,
> $crooge McDuck is OBVIOUSLY the richest
>man in the world
I hate to point out the obvious, but the main thing preventing $crooge McDuck
from being the richest man in the world is that he's not a man. He's a duck.
I'll acept he's the richest duck in the world, no problem, though. (Anyone know
what Howard's worth?)
--
Dave
Now Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc for three years
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"I hate playing *frivolous* Mornington Crescent. It wrecks the whole thing."
-Humphrey Lyttleton
Scott Eiler
the robotic servitors of "Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com>
rose up with the following chant:
>I note that there's a heavy bias in favor of persons who have appeared
>on TV or movies.
Okay, I'll admit that too. Tony Stark should definitely be on the list.
>For instance I am sure that Vandal Savage and Ra's al
>Ghul have huge fortunes.
Yeah, but they're absent for the exact same reason Osama bin Laden doesn't
appear on the Fortune 500 list of the World's Most Influential Capitalists.
>>On 10/09/2002 06:33 AM, in article
>>obb8qu4g2pvhfjv73...@4ax.com, "Len-L" <les...@spamcop.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>For full story, see http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
>>>
>>>15. Jay Gatsby $600 million
>>>14. Gordon Gekko $650 million
>>>13. Cruella De Vil $875 million
>>>12. Charles Kane $1 billion
>>>11. C. Montgomery Burns $1 billion
>>>10. Auric Goldfinger $1.2 billion
>>>9. J.R. Ewing $2.8 billion
>>>8. Lex Luthor $4.7 billion
>>>7. Bruce Wayne $6.3 billion
>>>6. Willie Wonka $8 billion
>>>5. Thurston Howell III $8 billion
>>>4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
>>>3. Oliver Warbucks $10 billion
>>>2. Richie Rich $24.7 billion
>>>
>>>and the number 1 is...
>>>
>>>Santa Claus, . . . because of "toy manufacturing operations at North
>>>Pole yielding apparently unlimited wealth."
-------- Scott Eiler B{D> -------- http://www.eilertech.com/ --------
"No, no, MONSTERS on the prowl, CREATURES on the loose. Creatures
just rampage around and get drunk and rowdy when they don't have
anything better to do. Monsters cruise for chicks."
-- Kurt Busiek, comic book professional, responding to a fan inquiry
about "Creatures On The Prowl".
Scott Eiler
the robotic servitors of hte...@pacbell.net (The Operative)
> news:<B9CA1CF6.79218%rocke...@earthlink.net>...
>> Any why the heck isn't Tony Stark on the list???
>
T'Challa probably ranks somewhere below all the other African rulers.
He keeps enough to travel in style, but somehow I doubt he's as much of a
money-gouger as all the others.
Puma's just an American Indian with some oil holdings or something. Twenty
oil-holding Saudis probably rank above him, kind of like Mr. bin Laden with
his "honey" business.
Kingpin's mostly a crimelord. He has a respectable business in exotic
spices or something, but until he reports his criminal holdings to the IRS,
he'd probably out of the running.
Edwin Alva's dead. Ha ha. Even at his peak, he only seemed to control the
enterprises of one city. That puts him somewhere below Bill Gates and Lex
Luthor.
Scott Eiler
the robotic servitors of terraf...@irtc.net
>
>
>
>> Terrafamilia wrote:
>>
>> >Where would the Phantom fall on such a list? In addition to a room full of
>> >gold & jewels he has a room full of stuff which would be priceless, such as
>> >
>> > The sword of Roland -- Durandal
>> > The ivory horn of Roland
>> > The asp that bit Cleopatra
>> > Cleopatra's wedding ring from Mark Antony
>> > A tiny ark made from the wood of Noah's ark
>> > A golden flower
>> > Caesar's laurel crown
>> > The Diamond Cup of Alexander the Great
>> > The original script of Hamlet in Shakespeare's own handwriting
>> > The great ring of Nebuchadnezzar
>> > The necklace of Nefertiti
>> > The lyre of the blind poet Homer
>>
>> I always assumed that the Phantom (or his forefathers) was a sucker for
>> fake antiquities. In other words, he may -believe- it's the necklace of
>> Nefertiti, but is it really? Also its value is only determined if he
>> sells it. While he holds it, it may or may not be worth anything at all.
>
>But then again, given that he inhabits a fictional world, they could very well
>be authentic.
Then again again, in such a fictional world, my evil analog could well have
come into possession of King Arthur's wisdom teeth, which give him the mystic
power to bite anyone. He *might* be able to parlay that into world
domination, but he'd still have to *sell* them to determine their value.
Fortune Magazine can't be expected to say what's valuable, if it's not
currency - or if its monetary value hasn't been determined by a sale sometime.
>How about Tarzan? He's got all that gold from the city of Opar in addition to
>real estate in England and Africa. Not that he cares about money for money's
>sake.
Lord Greystoke probably bribed Fortune Magazine to keep him off the list.
B{D>
Kevin Robinson
regarding:
> >wealthiest characters
> >From: don...@iglou.com (Don Rosa)
> >Date: 13/10/02 15:08 GMT Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <8f032555.02101...@posting.google.com>
> >
> >kev...@my-deja.com (Kevin Robinson) wrote in message
> >> > > 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
> >> > > Calling Don Rosa!
> >
> don...@iglou.com (Don Rosa) wrote in message news:<8f032555.02101...@posting.google.com>...
>
> You rang?
>
> Yes, I'd already heard about this silly FORBES article... ranking the
It is foolish to dispute the authority of the acolyte of The Master.*
Thanks for coming when called, "Keno."
> I hate to point out the obvious, but the main thing preventing $crooge McDuck
> from being the richest man in the world is that he's not a man. He's a duck.
> I'll acept he's the richest duck in the world, no problem, though. (Anyone know
> what Howard's worth?)
Howard? From Man-Thing? And that .... movie....?!
H.T. Duck never had two dimes to rub together. Next to
him, Donald is Trump!
And so what if $crooge isn't a "man." Whatever alternate Earth
Duckburg, Calisota, USA is located on seems to treat all its
intelligent species as if they were "men." Even whatever
Goofy is.
Kevin
*The Master=The Good Artist, The Duck Man,
Mr. Carl Barks, as if you didn't already know.
Tom Galloway
Don Rosa <don...@iglou.com> wrote:
>What slander! Everyone {in Europe} knows $crooge has 14
>fantasticatillion, 37 impossibilillion, 21 incredibidillion, 10
>skyrillion dollars and 16 cents.)
OK, I figure Ol' Number One counts for ten of the 16 cents, but is there
any particular significance about the other 6 (which, given Scrooge, could
be any combination of half cents, cents, two-cent pieces, three-cent pieces
and a nickel that add up to six, given that all of those have been valid
US currency at some point.)?
tyg t...@panix.com
Patrick MARCEL
> I hate to point out the obvious, but the main thing preventing $crooge McDuck
> from being the richest man in the world is that he's not a man. He's a duck.
Except that one of his classics stories is titles "Only a poor rich old man"
IIRC. You're being too litteral. Besides, if he's a duck, what is he doing
on the list in the first place?
Patrick
--
Reason is only a drug, and its effects cannot be permanent.
- Hope Mirrlees -
Yngvar Fųlling
colier...@aol.com says...
> >This is really stupid. Everyone knows that Santa Claus is magical and has
> >elves help make toys to give away for free. He would be among the poorest
> >individuals, not the richest.
>
> Not true. Rumor is he moved the factory to Korea for cheaper labor...after
> talking to Kathy Lee and Disney he discovered 7 year olds work much cheaper
> than elves!
Don't forget the immense revenue he has to get from all of those Coca
Cola ads.
Yngvar
Don Rosa
> from being the richest man in the world is that he's not a man. He's a duck.
Not only is that not obvious, it's incorrect. You are (obviously) not
well-versed in Bark-lore. Barks' $crooge and Donald were, in his own
words as well as the minds of all the readers of his 25 years of
Duckburg adventures, MEN. They were intended as charicatures of
HUMANS. Remember (if you knew) that Barks' Donald Duck is not really
the same as Disney's Donald Duck -- Barks recreated the character for
the purposes of making him *interesting* and worthy of having a
universe (which soon became the world's most famous and popular comic
universe) built around him. Bugs Bunny is a naked rabbit who lives in
a hole and steals carrots from farmer Fudd, Daffy Duck is a nude duck
who flies south for the winter and dodges duckhunters' buckshot;
Donald works for a living and pays rent, and $crooge worries about
taxes, both fully clothed & living in houses and doing everything else
as normal humans. They refer to themselves in their stories as MEN.
All the other characters refer to them as MEN, and the names "duck" or
"gander" are used like ethnic equivalents. This, as Europeans know, is
what makes Barks' Duckburg Univerese so great.
$crooge McDuck is the richest MAN in the world. Sorry if you
misunderstood Barks stories so much (if you ever read them). You've
missed the greatest comics ever done.
Don Rosa
> any particular significance about the other 6
No, but when Barks had $crooge quote his net worth (at some given
moment) it would be a varying array of words like "fantasticatillion"
or "impossibidillion" (not meant to be actual amounts but simply
$crooge's sarcastic nature)... but he would usually follow it up with
saying "and 16 cents", just to indicate that every penny counts.
Daibhid Chiennedelh
>Date: 14/10/02 23:05 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8f032555.0210...@posting.google.com>
I stand corrected. For what it's worth, I had got the concept, just not the
terminology. (ie, I did know that $crooge et al. were supposed to be people,
rather than just ducks; it's something I often find myself explaining when the
subject of how cartoon animals can own pets comes up, so I'm really embarrassed
that I didn't consider this before posting a rather weak attempt at humour.)
Brian Doyle
...and effortlessly indicates a personal awareness of every single coin he owns. He
could probably quote how much is down the back of the sofa too!
Andrew Johnston
> Donald works for a living and pays rent, and $crooge worries about
> taxes, both fully clothed & living in houses and doing everything else
> as normal humans.
Well, they don't wear pants...but otherwise, you're exactly right, which is
no surpise in light of your status as the world's #1 authority on all
things McDuck.
Daibhid Chiennedelh
>Date: 15/10/02 03:55 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Xns92A7E9B1F3E76...@24.168.128.74>
Indeed. It occured to me even before he replied: I "corrected" WHO about
*WHAT*??
I'm just off to make flippant and inaccurate criticisms about Buseik's opinions
on Marvel continuity now... Or someone could just shoot me... 8-/
Jay and Diane Rudin
> Where would the Phantom fall on such a list? In addition to a room full of
> gold & jewels he has a room full of stuff which would be priceless, such
as
If it's kept in a cave and nobody knows about it, then Forbes couldn't have
priced it.
Jay Rudin
Jay and Diane Rudin
> How about Tarzan? He's got all that gold from the city of Opar in addition
to
> real estate in England and Africa. Not that he cares about money for
money's
> sake.
He's rich, but not in that category.
A. In an early book, kidnappers forced him to write a check for more money
than he was worth (and so the check was worthless).
B. In "Tarzan and the Jewels of Opar", he went broke, and had to go back to
Opar to get some more.
Jay Rudin
Duggy
> 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
> I distinctly recall Scrooge McDuck saying in an episode of DuckTales
> that he had 42 quadrillion dollars.
That's all tied up in assest. We're talking contents of thier wallets.
===
= DUG.
===
quimico
> >
>
>
> I always assumed that the Phantom (or his forefathers) was a sucker for
> fake antiquities. In other words, he may -believe- it's the necklace of
> Nefertiti, but is it really? Also its value is only determined if he
> sells it. While he holds it, it may or may not be worth anything at all.
>
> Brenda
Well, you can see online now a story of how some of
those antiquities were donated by the Phantom...
Wouldn't the Knights recognize fakes if they were such?
But the Phantom has also the private Beach on which rests
his (solid) Jade Cabin... Its sands are 50% gold in weight.
That would be gold enough to run the gold market upside
down!
Paul Andinach
news:ao2num$3qj$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net:
> "Jeremy Henderson" <hell...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:j2g9quomcevta977k...@4ax.com...
> > 4. Scrooge McDuck $8.2 billion
> >
> > I distinctly recall Scrooge McDuck saying in an episode of
> > DuckTales that he had 42 quadrillion dollars.
>
>
> Maybe Ducks can't count? :-}
Scrooge's accountant is a fairly obvious counterexample. (At least in
the TV series; I don't recall whether he ever appeared in the
comics.) He can accurately count the number of anything in any
container in a single glance.
Paul
--
The Pink Pedanther
Paul Andinach
news:3DAD1646...@jcu.edu.au.nos:
Tied up in assets? This is Scrooge McDuck we're talking about, the
man who's so devoted to the concept of liquid assets that he built a
skyscraper just to house his petty cash.