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maryanne kehoe

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Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
themselves out....the state could have done it for them!

Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for these 2
pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!


Maryanne.


JIGSAW1695

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Subject: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
From: atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
Date: 4/28/99 9:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20367-372...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>


Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take

themselves out....the state could have done it for them! \

====================================

Yea...but my question is : If the planned to get a jet and fly to New York and
crash their plae there, why did they bother to kill themselves.

Fanatics are generally singlemind.


Jigsaw

Terry C. Shannon

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JIGSAW1695 wrote:
>
> Subject: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
> From: atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
> Date: 4/28/99 9:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> Message-id: <20367-372...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>
>
> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!

Not very likely, and even if these Misunderstood Murderers were given
the DP, sentence would not be carried out for ten years or so.

A damned shame the "youths" didn't take themselves out before turning
their high school into a free-fire zone.

>
> ====================================
>
> Yea...but my question is : If the planned to get a jet and fly to New York and
> crash their plae there, why did they bother to kill themselves.

Perhaps they realized at the last moment that they didn't know how to
fly a jet?

Anyhow, I really don't know what's going on here, but it's damned
serious. Used to be, kids would settle things with fisticuffs in the
schoolyard.

Today, fistfighting is out, but SelfEsteem and gunfire are in. Go
figure.

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
From: "Terry C. Shannon" <sha...@world.std.com>
Date: 4/29/99 7:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <37286BFA...@world.std.com>

JIGSAW1695 wrote:
>
> Subject: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
> From: atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
> Date: 4/28/99 9:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> Message-id: <20367-372...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>
>
> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!

Not very likely, and even if these Misunderstood Murderers were given
the DP, sentence would not be carried out for ten years or so.

A damned shame the "youths" didn't take themselves out before turning
their high school into a free-fire zone.

>
> ====================================
>
> Yea...but my question is : If the planned to get a jet and fly to New York
and
> crash their plae there, why did they bother to kill themselves.

Perhaps they realized at the last moment that they didn't know how to
fly a jet?

=================================================

Er...Terry.... the way it is done is simple.... they take hostages. They tell
the cops they want a jet to take them somewheres or they will kill the hostages
one by one. They get on the plane and tell the pilot to fly to New York. Then,
over NYC the do thier thing.

It could happen that way, though I have no doubt that they would be takenout by
a sniper before they got to the plane....maybe.

It has been done this way before.

Steven W. Smith

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In article <37286BFA...@world.std.com>,

"Terry C. Shannon" <sha...@world.std.com> wrote:
> JIGSAW1695 wrote:
> >
> > Subject: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
> > From: atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
> > Date: 4/28/99 9:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> > Message-id: <20367-372...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>
> >
> > Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> > themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
>
> Not very likely, and even if these Misunderstood Murderers were given
> the DP, sentence would not be carried out for ten years or so.
>
> A damned shame the "youths" didn't take themselves out before turning
> their high school into a free-fire zone.
>
> >
> > ====================================
> >
> > Yea...but my question is : If the planned to get a jet and fly to New York and
> > crash their plae there, why did they bother to kill themselves.
>
> Perhaps they realized at the last moment that they didn't know how to
> fly a jet?
>
> Anyhow, I really don't know what's going on here, but it's damned
> serious. Used to be, kids would settle things with fisticuffs in the
> schoolyard.
>
> Today, fistfighting is out, but SelfEsteem and gunfire are in. Go
> figure.

Yes, we've had four school bomb threats in as many days here in Corpus
Christi, TX. It's usually a pretty quite place.

--
Steven W. Smith
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Terry C. Shannon

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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No longer. Find the l'il bastards, er "AtRiskYouth" and incarcerate 'em
for the next twenty years or so. No TV, no MTV, no "Real World." Just
plenty of large rocks to be converted into small rocks. Seven days a
week.


And why not televise the rock reduction on "The Real World(tm)"

Apologizes to MTV, hehehe...

Steven W. Smith

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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In article <3728B72C...@world.std.com>,

"Terry C. Shannon" <sha...@world.std.com> wrote:
> Steven W. Smith wrote:

> > Yes, we've had four school bomb threats in as many days here in Corpus
> > Christi, TX. It's usually a pretty quite place.
>
> No longer. Find the l'il bastards, er "AtRiskYouth" and incarcerate 'em
> for the next twenty years or so. No TV, no MTV, no "Real World." Just
> plenty of large rocks to be converted into small rocks. Seven days a
> week.
>
> And why not televise the rock reduction on "The Real World(tm)"
>
> Apologizes to MTV, hehehe...

Having taught in many welfare programs where we tried to pay them to go to
school and other nonsense, I've come to a similar conclusion. I think that
twenty years sounds a bit excessive, but whatever we're doing now isn't
working very well.

The idea is that we must be consistent; people commit crimes and get away
with little or no consequence. Thus, they learn at an early age that they
can do so. It comes as a big shock when they get strapped to a gurney. The
magnitude of the consequence isn't as important as certainty and consistency.

suzanne burrows

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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maryanne kehoe <atl...@webtv.net> wrote

>
> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
>
> Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for
> these 2 pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!

Does this actually make you feel better??

They still shot 13 other people dead...

Suzanne

> Maryanne.

Terry C. Shannon

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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Steven W. Smith wrote:
>
> In article <3728B72C...@world.std.com>,
> "Terry C. Shannon" <sha...@world.std.com> wrote:
> > Steven W. Smith wrote:
>
> > > Yes, we've had four school bomb threats in as many days here in Corpus
> > > Christi, TX. It's usually a pretty quite place.
> >
> > No longer. Find the l'il bastards, er "AtRiskYouth" and incarcerate 'em
> > for the next twenty years or so. No TV, no MTV, no "Real World." Just
> > plenty of large rocks to be converted into small rocks. Seven days a
> > week.
> >
> > And why not televise the rock reduction on "The Real World(tm)"
> >
> > Apologizes to MTV, hehehe...
>
> Having taught in many welfare programs where we tried to pay them to go to
> school and other nonsense, I've come to a similar conclusion. I think that
> twenty years sounds a bit excessive, but whatever we're doing now isn't
> working very well.
>
> The idea is that we must be consistent; people commit crimes and get away
> with little or no consequence. Thus, they learn at an early age that they
> can do so. It comes as a big shock when they get strapped to a gurney. The
> magnitude of the consequence isn't as important as certainty and consistency.

Well stated! (And yup, twenty years is more than a bit excessive for a
bomb threat, but I figure that if you ask for twenty years you'll get at
least 20 months!)

p@u.c

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In article <20367-372...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>,

maryanne kehoe <atl...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
>themselves out....the state could have done it for them!

But it didn't, so this relevance of this to the DP is difficult to see.

>Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for these 2
>pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!

And at least we won't have to see your usual insipid little "BINGO!" post
on the eve of their executions.

--
Patrick Crotty
e-mail: prcrotty at midway.uchicago.edu


Steven W. Smith

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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In article <3729B4E4...@world.std.com>,

That's unfortunately true and a big part of the problem. Of course, a
convicted criminal should be able to act in such a way as to reduce the
sentence or at least improve his/her lot. The consequence, however, needs to
be just that regardless of how much money you have or what political buttons
you push.

Rev. Don Kool

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maryanne kehoe wrote:
>
> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
>

> Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for these 2
> pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!

And to think the murderer lovers still claim that the just Death
Penalty costs more than "life" in prison!

Hope this helps,
Don


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Rev. Don Kool

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"Terry C. Shannon" wrote:
> Steven W. Smith wrote:
> > "Terry C. Shannon" <sha...@world.std.com> wrote:

> > > JIGSAW1695 wrote:

> > > > Subject: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
> > > > From: atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
> > > > Date: 4/28/99 9:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> > > > Message-id: <20367-372...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>
> > > >

> > > > Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> > > > themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
> > >

> > > Not very likely, and even if these Misunderstood Murderers were given
> > > the DP, sentence would not be carried out for ten years or so.
> > >
> > > A damned shame the "youths" didn't take themselves out before turning
> > > their high school into a free-fire zone.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ====================================
> > > >
> > > > Yea...but my question is : If the planned to get a jet and fly to New York and
> > > > crash their plae there, why did they bother to kill themselves.
> > >
> > > Perhaps they realized at the last moment that they didn't know how to
> > > fly a jet?
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I really don't know what's going on here, but it's damned
> > > serious. Used to be, kids would settle things with fisticuffs in the
> > > schoolyard.
> > >
> > > Today, fistfighting is out, but SelfEsteem and gunfire are in. Go
> > > figure.
> >

> > Yes, we've had four school bomb threats in as many days here in Corpus
> > Christi, TX. It's usually a pretty quite place.
>
> No longer. Find the l'il bastards, er "AtRiskYouth" and incarcerate 'em
> for the next twenty years or so. No TV, no MTV, no "Real World." Just
> plenty of large rocks to be converted into small rocks. Seven days a
> week.
>
> And why not televise the rock reduction on "The Real World(tm)"

Come now Terry; 'somebody put their dirt in my hole' still beats
rock reduction as a punishment. Even getting them to move the hole
from 'over here to over there' still teaches them a lesson. :-)

I'll quit now before I grow too nostalgic for watching a DI run an
E1 through his paces.

Desmond Coughlan

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May 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/2/99
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atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe) writes:

> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!

In other words, you support the execution of children. What trailer
trash we have on this newsgroup these days.

> Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for these 2
> pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!

No, but thanks to the fact that your criminal justice system pisses
millions against the wall, to satisfy the sexual urges of you and your
kind, you can be sure that there will be more massacres of this kind.

--
Desmond Coughlan |Restez zen ... Linux peut le faire
des...@cybercable.fr
[www site under construction]

Desmond Coughlan

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jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) writes:

[snip]

> Yea...but my question is : If the planned to get a jet and fly to
> New York and crash their plae there, why did they bother to kill
> themselves.

That would have been a foolish plan to attempt. There was a similar
episode a couple of years ago in France. Terrorists hijacked a jet in
Marseille, and planned to fly it to Paris, and crash it into the city
(in the region of the Elysee Palace, I imagine). It was only later
that it was revealed that two Mirage 2000 fighters had been on
standby, and the jet, with its couple of hundred passengers, would
have been shot down before crossing the Massif Central.

If these two lunatics had managed to set out for New York, I'm sure
the United States Air Force would have dealt with the threat.
Assuming that there were no cablecars or hillsides in the area, that
is ...

> Fanatics are generally singlemind.

As evidenced by most of your fellow deathies ...

Desmond Coughlan

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jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) writes:

[snip]

> Er...Terry.... the way it is done is simple.... they take
> hostages. They tell the cops they want a jet to take them somewheres
> or they will kill the hostages one by one. They get on the plane and
> tell the pilot to fly to New York. Then, over NYC the do thier
> thing.

You forgot the bit where Dirty Harry gets on the plane, masquerading
as a pilot (after somehow having concealed a .44 magnum with an 8 "
barrel in his sock). He then whips out his peni -- er, gun, and
growls 'Get down!' at a frightened passenger, before blowing away the
baddies.

Then your nation of John Wayne wannabes can rest assured that America
is the land of milk and honey, and that the extremes of poverty,
obscene crime rates, and ridicule of the rest of the civilised world
is really just a plot by bed-wetting pinkos to divert attention from
Desi's real address in Paris.

Get real, Jigsaw: no government (not even one as corrupt, and
laughably incompetent as the United States) would sacrifice perhaps
thousands of lives in a major industrial city. That jet would never
have made it near New York.

Desmond Coughlan

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"suzanne burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> writes:

> > Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> > themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
> >

> > Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for
> > these 2 pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!

> Does this actually make you feel better??


>
> They still shot 13 other people dead...

That matters little to them, Suzanne. Nor does it matter that, if the
two children hadn't killed themselves, they would in all likelihood
have been sentenced to death and executed (in blatant violation of
international law), and that this wouldn't have lowered the crime rate
one little bit.

As you said, it makes them 'feel better'.

JIGSAW1695

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Subject: Re: STILL proud to be a pro-DP'er!
From: Desmond Coughlan <nospam_...@cybercable.fr>
Date: 5/3/99 10:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <877lqqh...@lievre.coughlan.fr>

jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) writes:

[snip]

--

Desmond Coughlan |Restez zen ... Linux peut le faire
des...@cybercable.fr
[www site under construction]

========================================================

As usual Desi, you missed the point and commented on what your limited vision
saw.

Let me repeat the questions:

If they planned to hijack a plane. why did they kill each other".

Try real hard Dez.....try real real hard to concentrate on the questions, and
rather go off on a tangent..... COCENTRATE ON THE FREAKEN" QUESTION!!!!! and
try to answer it.

stutteringj

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May 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/4/99
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On 03 May 1999 19:19:00 +0200, Desmond Coughlan
<nospam_...@cybercable.fr> wrote:

>"suzanne burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> writes:
>
>> > Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
>> > themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
>> >
>> > Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for
>> > these 2 pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!
>
>> Does this actually make you feel better??
>>
>> They still shot 13 other people dead...

Of course Suzeekins didn't bother to read SHIT about the facts.

That's why she insisted that "100 percent of the victims were
schoolchildren".

Except there was a teacher who died too.

So much for factual research on the anti's part.

Does Suzee check ANYTHING before she opens her mouth?

I think I know what it is her husband see's in her, and an open mouth
figures prominently in it.

necromancer


>
>That matters little to them, Suzanne. Nor does it matter that, if the
>two children hadn't killed themselves, they would in all likelihood
>have been sentenced to death and executed (in blatant violation of
>international law), and that this wouldn't have lowered the crime rate
>one little bit.
>
>As you said, it makes them 'feel better'.
>

maryanne kehoe

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May 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/6/99
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Someone mentioned about "getting 20 years in prison for a bomb threat".

That does not sound too unreasonable---some clown left a suspicious
package in our Olympic Games venue (that turned out to be the real
thing) that necessitatied evacuating about 12,000 people 6 hours before
the Opening Ceromony.

The person that left it was never caught, and I sure would like to lock
the jerk up and throw away the key--that would be justice!

Maryanne.


suzanne burrows

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Necro psoing as "stutteringj; j; j; Michael BedriddeninSeattle
<jo...@cbs-radio.com>" wrote:

> Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>>"suzanne burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> writes:
>>
>>>> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
>>>> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
>>>>
>>>> Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for
>>>> these 2 pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!
>>
>>> Does this actually make you feel better??
>>>
>>> They still shot 13 other people dead...
>
> Of course Suzeekins didn't bother to read SHIT about the facts.
>
> That's why she insisted that "100 percent of the victims were
> schoolchildren".
>
> Except there was a teacher who died too.

And remind us how this proves gun-control won't work, Necro?

An armed security guard couldn't land a shot on the 2 killers. So why would
an armed teacher be any more effective?

Suzanne

[Necro's remaining ad hominem snipped]

Natsam

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suzanne burrows wrote:

> Necro psoing as "stutteringj; j; j; Michael BedriddeninSeattle
> <jo...@cbs-radio.com>" wrote:
> > Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> >>"suzanne burrows" <suz...@moving.target.au> writes:
> >>
> >>>> Just think, if those 2 kids in Colorado had decided not to take
> >>>> themselves out....the state could have done it for them!
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, at least the LAW-ABIDING taxpayers will not be paying for
> >>>> these 2 pieces of scum in prison for the rest of their lives!
> >>
> >>> Does this actually make you feel better??
> >>>
> >>> They still shot 13 other people dead...
> >
> > Of course Suzeekins didn't bother to read SHIT about the facts.
> >
> > That's why she insisted that "100 percent of the victims were
> > schoolchildren".
> >
> > Except there was a teacher who died too.
>
> And remind us how this proves gun-control won't work, Necro?

Oh, I see, you don't feel the need toprove that it *will* work in the US?
Typical.


Anyway, check out:

http://www.guncite.com/gcgvinco.html

and

http://www.arcrafts.com/think/Legal/KATES/GunContAsses.html

and

http://www.rkba.org/research/cramer/crimes.txt


I've seen a lot of interesting information about
gun control on the net, but virtually no (even
marginally convincing) arguments that further
gun laws will reduce violent crime rates.
(See above websites for some debunking.)
If anything, it appears that abundance of privately
owned guns is an effect, and violent crime is the
cause. Not the other way around. (Sort of
like the DP being an effect, with violent crime
being the cause, not vice versa.)


>
>
> An armed security guard couldn't land a shot on the 2 killers. So why would
> an armed teacher be any more effective?
>

Why would your as-of-yet undefinedchanges/additions to our gun laws
have made a damn bit of difference,
either?

>


stutteringj

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On 6 May 1999 17:12:28 +1000, "suzanne burrows"
<suz...@moving.target.au> wrote:

snip......


>>
>> Of course Suzeekins didn't bother to read SHIT about the facts.
>>
>> That's why she insisted that "100 percent of the victims were
>> schoolchildren".
>>
>> Except there was a teacher who died too.

snip.....
>
>Suzanne

Care to admit you are full of shit as usual?

Desmond Coughlan

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atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe) writes:

How many deaths?

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