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Peter Gillis

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97
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According to the rules, the is a sub-vote involving the Prisci. Is this
for any and all votes, or only for votes called by actions. (Is there a
sub-vote for wild hunts and blood hunts?) If I have the only Priscus on
the table, does that mean it is automatically worth three votes?

All help appreciated...

LSJ

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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In article <3443ED...@isn.net>, Peter Gillis <pgi...@isn.net> wrote:
>
> According to the rules, the is a sub-vote involving the Prisci. Is this
> for any and all votes, or only for votes called by actions. (Is there a
> sub-vote for wild hunts and blood hunts?)

It is for all votes, including the hunts.

> If I have the only Priscus on
> the table, does that mean it is automatically worth three votes?

Effectively, yes.

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Quicksilver

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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Peter Gillis wrote:
>
> According to the rules, the is a sub-vote involving the Prisci. Is this
> for any and all votes, or only for votes called by actions. (Is there a
> sub-vote for wild hunts and blood hunts?)

Yes

> If I have the only Priscus on
> the table, does that mean it is automatically worth three votes?
>

> All help appreciated...

Yes. Though since you said automatically worth 3 votes I must point
out that certain cards or conditions will void the votes such as
Pulling Strings and being in topor.

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Eric Pettersen

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Oct 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/17/97
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Quicksilver <michae...@lmco.com> wrote:

> Peter Gillis wrote:
> > If I have the only Priscus on
> > the table, does that mean it is automatically worth three votes?
> >
> > All help appreciated...
>
> Yes. Though since you said automatically worth 3 votes I must point
> out that certain cards or conditions will void the votes such as
> Pulling Strings and being in topor.

I don't have the Sabbat rules in front of me, so I don't remember if Pulling
Strings can be played during the Prisci sub-vote (I don't think it can if
I remember right), but I believe it cannot be played after the sub-vote,
even if there is only one Priscus, because the votes are considered to
come from _all_ Prisci, not any particular Priscus. However, LSJ might
want to comment...
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Eric Pettersen
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rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu

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Oct 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/17/97
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Speaking of Prisci, if a Lasombra starts a Political Struggle with a Priscus,
and then send the Priscus to torpor, does the Lasombra gain the new votes in
the Prisci vote or the normal vote? I would think the latter, unless the
Lasombra is already a priscus.

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Robert Granat
Lackey of the Schnitzel Industry

James Coupe

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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In article <628i8p$d...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu
writes


Card Title: Political Struggle
Blood/Pool: n/a
Clan/Discip.: Lasombra
Card Type: Action
Card Text: This is a +1 stealth action.
(D) Put this card on a ready vampire. The acting
vampire may enter combat with the vampire with this
card as a +1 stealth (D) action. If the vampire with
this card is burned or sent into torpor, the acting
vampire gains X votes, where X is the number of
non-contested votes the vampire with this card has;
burn this card afterwards.
Artist: Patrick Kochakji
Rarity: Rare


From the errata:

Prisci in general have zero votes (for effects that operate based
on the number of votes a vampire has). [RTR 970630]

Political Struggle works based on the number of votes a vampire has and
a Priscus has no votes outside of the Priscus sub-vote. This would also
be the case for things like Island of Yiaros which work based on the
number of votes a Priscus has.

Even if they did get the Prisci votes for the prisci vote, they couldn't
cast them since they aren't a priscus. Only Prisci votes can be cast in
the prisci vote - this requires you to have a ready Priscus (so that
vamp who has an additional vote in the prisci sub-vote can only cast it
if you control a ready priscus and not if he, say, Cardinal Benedicts
himself and he was your only Priscus).

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LSJ

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Oct 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/20/97
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James Coupe <ja...@obeah.demon.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> In article <628i8p$d...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, rag...@ugcs.caltech.edu writes
> >Speaking of Prisci, if a Lasombra starts a Political Struggle with a Priscus,
> >and then send the Priscus to torpor, does the Lasombra gain the new votes in
> >the Prisci vote or the normal vote? I would think the latter, unless the
> >Lasombra is already a priscus.
>
> From the errata:
>
> Prisci in general have zero votes (for effects that operate based
> on the number of votes a vampire has). [RTR 970630]
>
> Political Struggle works based on the number of votes a vampire has and
> a Priscus has no votes outside of the Priscus sub-vote. This would also
> be the case for things like Island of Yiaros which work based on the
> number of votes a Priscus has.
>
> Even if they did get the Prisci votes for the prisci vote, they couldn't
> cast them since they aren't a priscus. Only Prisci votes can be cast in
> the prisci vote - this requires you to have a ready Priscus (so that
> vamp who has an additional vote in the prisci sub-vote can only cast it
> if you control a ready priscus and not if he, say, Cardinal Benedicts
> himself and he was your only Priscus).

Correct. Nice work - saves me a lot of typing. Thanks.

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