RESULT: news.admin.net-abuse reorganization all groups pass
Jani Patokallio
RESULT
moderated group news.admin.announce (renames news.admin.net-abuse.announce) passes 443:32
unmoderated group news.admin.net-abuse.email passes 451:28
moderated group news.admin.net-abuse.policy passes 441:36
moderated group news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins passes 448:34
moderated group news.admin.net-abuse.sightings passes 434:40
unmoderated group news.admin.net-abuse.usenet passes 447:32
news.admin.net-abuse reorganization results - 486 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
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443 32 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.announce
451 28 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.email
441 36 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.policy
448 34 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins
434 40 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.sightings
447 32 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Newsgroups lines:
news.admin.announce Announcements for news adminstrators. (Moderated)
news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins Bulletins of action about net abuse. (Moderated)
news.admin.net-abuse.email Discussion of abuse of email systems.
news.admin.net-abuse.policy Discussion of net abuse policy. (Moderated)
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings Sightings of net abuse. (Moderated)
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet Discussion of abuse of the Usenet system.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Nov 1996.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Tim Skirvin <tski...@uiuc.edu>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpat...@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: all groups
The topic of net-abuse is a pressing issue on Usenet today. Currently,
there are two major groups for discussion of the topic: news.admin.
net-abuse.announce, a moderated forum for announcements about net abuse,
and news.admin.net-abuse.misc, a group for everything else.
Unfortunately, each of these groups suffer from their problems. news.
admin.net-abuse.announce brings in fairly high traffic for a moderated
group (oftentimes upwards of 20-30 per day), mostly consisting of
reports of action taken against net abuse. However, this group is also
used for important announcements, of general interest to all news
administrators. Because of its high traffic levels, however, most
administrators are unable to follow the group.
News.admin.net-abuse.misc, on the other hand, is an unmoderated forum.
As a result of this, it is very high traffic - usually upwards of
several hundred messages per day, with a goodly portion of them
crossposted among many unrelated or only vaguely-related groups. The
traffic has gotten high enough to make it difficult to follow the group
for those that wish to learn about and discuss net abuse.
This proposal would help solve all of the major problems of the news.
admin.net-abuse hierarchy. First of all, news.admin.net-abuse.announce
would be split into two groups: news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins, a moderated
group for the reports of action that make up the bulk of the current
group, and news.admin.announce, a moderated, low-traffic replacement for
news.admin.net-abuse.announce that would be of interest to all news
administrators.
Secondly, the problems of news.admin.net-abuse.misc would be alleviated
by the creation of four supplemental groups in the news.admin.net-abuse
hierarchy: news.admin.net-abuse.email, for discussion of email abuse,
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings, a robomoderated forum for users to
announce sightings of net abuse, news.admin.net-abuse.usenet, for
discussion of Usenet abuse, and news.admin.net-abuse.policy, a robo-
moderated forum for discussion of policies regarding net abuse that
disallows crossposts. The additional groups will allow users to read
messages only on those topics that they are interested in.
Several automated tools will be used to help manage the groups. Most
moderation will take place through auto-moderation bots; all groups will
be watched over by "Dave the Resurrector", a program that automatically
reposts cancelled messages. Other tools may also be used as circumstances
require and technology allows.
CHARTER: all groups
The news.admin.net-abuse.* hierarchy is for discussion of abuse of Usenet
and/or the Internet; it is not for discussion of abuse of groups or
indiviuals on such networks, such as flames, personal attacks, or off-
topic messages.
Binaries are specifically prohibited from all groups in the news.admin.*
hierarchy, except as examples of other abuse. All messages removed by
unauthorized cancels in the hierarchy will be automaticly reposted by
Dave the Resurrector or a similar program, at the discretion of the
group moderator or, for the unmoderated groups, the operator of the
resurrector program. Spams, gateway spews, and other attacks on the
system itself will be removed as appropriate, following standard Usenet
guidelines.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: news.admin.announce
News.admin.announce is a forum for important announcements for news
administrators. It is a moderated forum, watched over by a team
of moderators for added speed. Possible topics for messages include
announcements regarding news transport or browsing software, Frequently
Asked Questions lists, announcements of new EMP cancellers, announcements
of new cancellation criteria, reports that directly relate to the future
of Usenet, reports on legal issues that directly affect news
administrators such as the Communications Decency Act, and so forth.
News.admin.announce is moderated by a team of moderators. The moderators
will approve any message that they feel fits the following criteria:
1. The message is an announcement that the moderators feel is important
for most or all news administrators.
2. The message is formatted for 78 or less characters per line, and
is easily human readable.
3. The message is not a binary, nor will it break standard Usenet
readers.
4. Followups for the message are set appropriately.
Unapproved posts will be cancelled. At any time, moderators can be added
or removed by a majority vote of the then-current moderators.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: news.admin.announce
Moderator: Dave Barr <ba...@math.psu.edu>
Moderator: Abby Franquemont-Guillory <abb...@tezcat.net>
Administrative contact address: news-admin-an...@math.psu.edu
Article submission address: news-admi...@math.psu.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: news.admin.net-abuse.email
News.admin.net-abuse.email is a forum for discussion of possible abuses
of e-mail. Possible topics include mailbombing, denial-of-service attacks,
"listserv bombs", unsolicited and/or unwanted mail, email address lists,
mailing list abuse, large-scale mailings in general, chain letters, "email
viruses" such as Good Times, filtering software such as procmail, and so
forth. Flames and other personal attacks received through email are not
on-topic, unless they are related to another form of abuse.
News.admin.net-abuse.email is unmoderated.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: news.admin.net-abuse.misc
News.admin.net-abuse.misc is a forum for discussion of possible net
abuse not covered by the rest of the news.admin.net-abuse.* hiearchy.
Possible topics include ping-storming, site aliasing, denial of service
attacks, and anything else that does not fit into the other forums in the
news.admin.net-abuse.* hierarchy.
News.admin.net-abuse.misc is unmoderated.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: news.admin.net-abuse.policy
News.admin.net-abuse.policy is a moderated forum for discussion of
policy and site-management issues related to net abuse. Possible topics
include Acceptable Use Policies, what actions should be taken against
abusers, discussion of third-party cancel messages, possible actions against
abusive sites such as rogue site declarations, discussion of what is and
is not net abuse, and so forth.
News.admin.net-abuse.policy is a moderated forum. The robomoderator of
the group will disallow any and all crossposted messages, message spews,
binary messages, and any possible attacks on the group as required. Dave
the Resurrector (or a similar program) will be run on the group, forged
approvals will be automatically cancelled, and other programs may be used
as circumstances require.
News.admin.net-abuse.policy is moderated by a robot moderator, run by a
team of operators. The robot will automatically approve and post messages
that:
1. Are not crossposted.
2. Contain only text formatted for <78 columns, excepting quoted material.
3. Cannot be determined to directly violate the charter of the group by
the robot moderator alone (for which the criterion will be published.)
Messages not approved by the robot moderator will be sent back to the
sender with a copy of the charter, though at most one copy of the
information will be sent per week. Changes to the robot moderator
can only be enacted by a majority vote of the then-current operators;
similarly, operators can be added or removed by a majority vote of the
then-current operators.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: news.admin.net-abuse.policy
Moderator: Scott Forbes <for...@ravenna.com>
Moderator: Tim Skirvin <tski...@uiuc.edu>
Administrative contact address: nana...@ravenna.com
Article submission address: nana...@ravenna.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins
News.admin.net-abuse.bulletins is a moderated forum for bulletins of action
taken against net abuse. Appropriate subjects include cancellation
notices (EMP/ECP, spew, binary, and others), status reports from individual
systems concerning action taken against abusers, results of tracking
campaigns, "rogue site" declarations, and the like.
News.admin.net-abuse.bulletins is moderated by a team of moderators.
Followups will be set to the appropriate news.admin.net-abuse.* groups.
Dave the Resurrector (or a similar program) will be run on the group,
forged approvals will be automatically cancelled, and other programs
may be run at the discretion of the moderators.
The moderators will approve messages based on the following criteria:
1. The message is a report of actions taken relating to and against
net abuse.
2. The message is formatted for 78 or less characters per line, and
is easily human readable.
3. The message is not determined to directly violate the charter of the
group.
The moderators may auto-approve posts from certain individuals, at their
own discretion.
At any time, moderators can be added or removed by a majority vote of
the then-current moderators. Messages with forged Approval: lines not
approved by the moderators will be cancelled.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins
Moderator: Dave Barr <ba...@math.psu.edu>
Moderator: Paul Phillips <pa...@cerf.net>
Moderator: Joel Furr <jf...@acpub.duke.edu>
Administrative contact address: news-admin-bul...@math.psu.edu
Article submission address: news-admin...@math.psu.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings
News.admin.net-abuse.sightings is a forum for reports of sightings of
net abuse. It is a robomoderated forum, allowing only properly
formatted posts. Followups are required to be set strictly out of the
group and into the appropriate group in the news.admin.net-abuse.*
hierachy.
News.admin.net-abuse.sightings is moderated by a robot moderator, run
by a team of operators. The robot will automatically approve and post
messages according to the following criteria:
1. The message is formatted for 78 or less characters per line, and
is easily human readable.
2. The message follows a publicized template specified by the operator
of the robot moderator. For example, the following format -may- be
the standard for a Usenet abuse sighting:
--
(headers)
Subject: [usenet] (Standard Subject)
Followup-to: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
From: (valid address) -or- Reply-to: (valid address)
(other standard headers)
(body)
Abuse-spotted-in: (first group spotted)
Abuse-Subject: (subject from abuse)
Type-of-abuse: (EMP, ECP, binary, forgery, etc. No set rules here)
Description: (description and/or comments)
-
(Full headers of the abuse)
(Full body of the abuse)
--
Messages may be automatically reformatted by the robot moderator for
archival and standardization purposes, using procedures established by
the operator of the robot moderator. For example, the following changes
may be made, if deemed appropriate:
1. Only the first fifteen lines of the body of the abuse may be
posted; the rest would be archived, but not posted.
2. The abuse may be reformatted to fit into 78 columns.
3. If the text of the abuse would cause technical problems with some
newsreaders, the problem text may be replaced with X's; if the abuse
would cause problems with most newsreaders, the article may not be
posted at all.
4. Several headers may be added at the discretion of the operator of the
robot moderator, such as the following:
a. X-Apparently-Complain-To: <postm...@apparent.site.of.abuse>
b. X-Archive-Number: (a unique number)
c. X-Archives: (URL of site containing group archives)
Messages that do not meet these criteria will be sent back to the sender
with a copy of this charter and a listing of the published templates,
though at most one copy of this information will be sent out per week.
Forged approvals will be automatically cancelled. Changes to the robot
moderator can only be enacted by a majority vote of the then-current
operators; similarly, operators can be added or removed by a majority
vote of the then-current operators.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings
Moderator: "J.D. Falk" <jdf...@cybernothing.org>
Moderator: Tim Skirvin <tski...@uiuc.edu>
Administrative contact address: nana...@cybernothing.org
Article submission address: nana...@cybernothing.org
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
News.admin.net-abuse.usenet is a forum for discussion of possible abuses
of Usenet (as defined in news.announce.newusers). Possible topics include
spamming or Excessive Multi-Posting (EMP), Excessive Cross-Posting (ECP),
Usenet chain letters such as MAKE.MONEY.FAST, forged or third-party
cancellations, broken Usenet gateways, forgery of another user, forged
approvals in moderated groups, massively crossposted "flametrolls", abuse
of the newsgroup creation system, general purpose netiquette, and so forth.
News.admin.net-abuse.usenet is unmoderated.
END CHARTER.
news.admin.net-abuse reorganization Final Vote Ack
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet --------+
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings -------+|
news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins ------+||
news.admin.net-abuse.policy -----+|||
news.admin.net-abuse.email ----+||||
news.admin.announce ---+|||||
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ja...@biometry.demon.co.uk James Lynn YYYYYY
ja...@cs.sfu.ca Jamie Andrews YYYYYY
ja...@r33h77.res.gatech.edu Jason Bennett YYYYYY
ja...@radar.demon.co.uk Jason Faultless -YYY-Y
jay...@concentric.net Jay Lapidus YYYYYY
j...@levin.mv.com J. B. Levin YYYYYY
jbre...@deltanet.com John E. Bredehoft YYYYYY
jce...@primenet.com Jerry Cederquist YYYYYY
j...@rahul.net John David Galt Y-YYY-
je...@kcco.com Jean Liddle YYYYYY
je...@delta.com Jeffrey L. Woods NYYYYY
jeff...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Jeff Ford YYYYYY
JeffL...@WorldNet.att.net Jeffery J. Leader YYYYYY
jer...@exit109.com Jeremy Nixon YYYYYY
jfbe...@nyx.net Joerg Florian Berger N-NNN-
jfe...@ece.cmu.edu Jonathan Ferro YYYYYY
j...@cam.ov.com Jonathan Kamens YYYYYY
Jim...@gnn.com Jim Riley YNNYYN
j...@primenet.com Jim Davis YYYYYY
JKLIM...@aol.com John Klimm NYNYNN
jkr...@CS.Princeton.EDU Joshua Kramer YYYYYY
jlo...@netcom.com Jim Lowman YYNYNY
jman...@skypoint.com Jim Manson YYYYYY
jmcg...@uoguelph.ca James McGarry YYYYYY
jmc...@interserf.net John McKeon NNNNNN
j...@delorges.in-berlin.de Jo Meder YYYYYY
jo...@ludd.luth.se Joar Nilsson YYYYYY
j...@decoy.uoregon.edu Joe St Sauver YYNYNY
Joel.E...@salata.com Joel Ehrlich YYYYYY
j...@etrigan.demon.co.uk Jon Abbott YYYYYY
jon...@netcom.com jon letham YYYYYY
jo...@pogo.cqs.washington.edu Josh Hayes YYYYYY
jrus...@icon.net Charles J. Rusling YYYYYY
j...@aracnet.com Joyce Reynolds-Ward YYYYYY
j...@idiom.com Michael Craft NNNNNN
jsk...@merle.acns.nwu.edu Joshua Kreitzer YYYYYY
jul...@fwb.gulf.net Jules Dubois YYYYYY
jw...@rsg1.er.usgs.gov Janet Walz Y--YY-
jyo...@luna.cas.usf.edu Jonathan Young YYYYYY
k...@khms.westfalen.de Kai Henningsen YYYYYY
kal...@rt66.com Peter Vorobieff YYYYYY
kam...@dogeared.com Scot Kamins YYYYYY
ka...@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Katharine Weizel YY---Y
kb...@best.com Kenneth Bibb YYYYYY
kch...@ionet.net Kimberly B. Churchwell YYYYYY
k...@zip.com.au Ken de Veaux YYYYYY
keit...@netcom.com Keith Clark YYYYYY
kes...@rrnet.com Scott R. Keszler YYYYYY
ki...@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn YYYYYY
kim...@utu.fi Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 555 5508 YYYYYY
k...@monroe.lib.mi.us Kip DeGraaf YYYYYY
kirsh...@hplms26.hpl.hp.com Evan Kirshenbaum YYYYYY
kjo...@netrax.net Kenneth Jones YYYYYY
k...@salata.com Karen Mintzias YYYYYY
knew...@pacifier.com KATHRYN GRAHAM YYYYYY
k...@kampsax.dk Karsten Spang YYYYYY
kvan...@rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu Kirk Van Katwyk YYYYYY
kwat...@sas.upenn.edu Kirk Wattles YYYYYY
la...@math.uni-duesseldorf.de Stefan Lache YYYYYY
lam...@ece.utexas.edu Lamont Lucas YYYYYY
le...@cc.helsinki.fi Antti Leino YYYYYY
l...@lerami.lerctr.org Larry Rosenman YYYYYY
lfirra...@BIX.com Mick Brown YYYYYY
list-...@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder YYYYYY
litl...@slumberland.com Wendi Dunlap YYYYYY
Littl...@physics.mcgill.ca Juan Gallego YYYYYY
llu...@networking.stanford.edu Rich Graves YYYYYY
lofs...@lava.net Karen Lofstrom YYYYYY
lor...@mellers1.psych.berkeley.edu Lorrie Wood YYYYYY
LSEA...@MU3.MILLERSV.EDU Lynne Seamans YYYYYY
lur...@tiac.net Peter Lurie YYYYYY
M.Vel...@fys.ruu.nl Michiel Veldkamp YYYYYY
ma...@ee.tut.fi Markus Linnala YYYYYY
ma...@po.CWRU.Edu Michael Chary YYYYYY
mal...@i1.net Mark Allen YYYYYY
mant...@mach1.wlu.ca Jim Mantle YYYYYY
ma...@mnsinc.com Marc Choppin YYYYYY
Mark.D...@elmail.co.uk Mark Dickman YYYYYY
ma...@cello.gina.calstate.edu Mark Crother YYYYYY
ma...@lava.net Mark Boudoin YYYYYY
mar...@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez YYYYYY
mar...@plaza.ds.adp.com Martin Golding YYYYYY
matt...@laas.fr Matthieu Herrb YYYYYY
Matus...@tuke.sk Matus Uhlar YYYYYY
m...@beatles.cselt.stet.it Maurizio Codogno YN-Y-N
mb...@co.intel.com Mike Northam YYYYYY
mc...@panix.com Matthew J Collins YYYYYY
mda-na...@triskele.com Michael D. Adams - No Commercial Email Ple YYYYYY
m...@CyberRamp.net Michael Rathbun YYYYYY
m...@netaxs.com Michael Fessler YYYYYY
meo...@hotmail.com Friendly Neighborhood Meowbot NNNNNN
mfa...@puc.cl Miguel Farah F. YYYYYY
mhk...@moberg.com Michael Kohne YYYYYY
mi...@scrum.muc.de Michael Buchenrieder YYYYYY
Michae...@student.uni-tuebingen.de Michael Will YYYYYY
mi...@cosy.sbg.ac.at Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr YYYYYY
mi...@itexas.net William H. Crowe YYYYYY
mikko....@vtt.fi Mikko Levanto YYYYYY
mill...@gore.nsc.com Harry Milliken YYYYYY
m...@emjay.apana.org.au Matthew Jackson YYYYYY
mjw...@lava.net Michael J. Wise YYYYYY
mk5...@cc.tut.fi Markku Kolkka YYYYYY
mk...@acm.org Mike Kent YYYYYY
mlb...@hotmail.com Matthew L. Bruce NNNNNN
mod...@sunspot.tiac.net Modemac YYYYYY
m...@df.lth.se Magnus Olsson YYYYYY
moo...@CMU.EDU Esther Filderman YYYYYY
mpa...@emory.edu Matthew L. Paden YYYYYY
mse...@mindspring.com Michael Evans YYYYYY
msme...@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Marcus Meissner YYYYYY
mso...@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57 NNNNNN
mtp...@isca.uiowa.edu Michael T Pins YYYYYY
m...@gsf.de Bernhard Muenzer YYYYYY
na...@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber YYYYYY
nar...@nvg.unit.no Helge Nareid YYYYYY
n...@nataa.fr.eu.org MAKAREVITCH YYYYYY
nat...@metareality.com Nate Waddoups YYYYYY
ne...@iis.ee.ethz.ch Matthias Neeracher YYYYYY
ne...@bitey.com Neil Motteram YYYYYY
ne...@spl.co.za Neil Thompson YYYYYY
nel...@aztec.asu.edu Bill Nelson YYYYYY
ni...@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman YYYYYY
ni...@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri NYNNNY
nkin...@curie.dialix.com.au Nick Kingham YYYYYY
nmcn...@bu.edu N.A.F. McNelly YYYYYY
nos...@no.spam.no David Heaton YYYYYY
nte...@qualcomm.com Nathan Tenny YYYYYY
nu...@cac.psu.edu Jeff Nucciarone YYYYYY
ol...@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar NYNNNY
Old....@worldnet.att.net Michael Subelka YYYYYY
old...@srv.net Diane Peel YYYYYY
ollivie...@eurocontrol.fr Ollivier Robert YYYYYY
owen...@gold.tc.umn.edu David Owen-Cruise YYYYYY
paas...@cc.jyu.fi Risto Paasivirta YYYYYY
p...@syix.com Pan YYYYYY
pa...@santra.hut.fi Robert Craig Harman YYYYYY
pa...@hp01.boku.ac.at Hubert Partl YYYYYY
pa...@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti NNNNNN
Patt...@cris.com Patty Bybee YYYYYY
pa...@econ.yale.edu Paul McGuire YYYYYY
Paul_...@vos.stratus.com Paul Green -YYYYY
pa...@cancom.net Trevor Tymchuk YYYYYY
pb1...@cam.ac.uk Paul Bolchover YYYYYY
pbu...@abo.fi Peter A. Buchy YYYYYY
pc...@cris.com Paul Cuni YYYYYY
pe...@entrenet.com Sandy Harris YYYYYY
pem...@is.NYU.EDU Petrea Mitchell NNNNNN
p...@iglou.com Pen Helm YYYYYY
p...@erix.ericsson.se Per Hedeland YYYYYY
pe...@taronga.com Peter da Silva YYYYYY
pete...@ti.com Bob Peterson YYYYYY
pga...@image.univ-lyon1.fr Paulo Garcia YYYYYY
Phil.B...@codd-date.co.uk Phil Boswell YYYYYY
ph...@hedgford.demon.co.uk PHILIP M REYNOLDS YYYYYY
ph...@vision25.demon.co.uk Phil Hunt YYYYYY
PHI...@aleytys.pc.my Philip Chee YYYYYY
phil...@bright.uoregon.edu Chris Phillips YYYYYY
Phil_...@unc.edu Phil Calvin YYYYYY
phr...@mcs.net Blaine Thompson YYNYNY
pj...@leicester.ac.uk Pete Humble YYYYYY
pli...@strataware.com Peter Littlefield YYYYYY
pm...@mat.uc.pt Paulo Melo YYYYYY
p...@pirinen.demon.co.uk Pekka P. Pirinen YYYYYY
pri...@cs.monash.edu.au GLen Pringle YYYYYY
psu0...@odin.cc.pdx.edu Karel Sebek YYYYYY
p...@cacs.usl.edu Pirawat Watanapongse YYYYYY
qu...@swcp.com Taki Kogoma YYYYYY
rah...@poboxes.com Richard A. Hurd YYYYYY
ra...@ark.franken.de Ralf W. Stephan YYYYYY
ra...@worcester.com Ralph Valentino YYYYYY
ra...@meitca.com R A Lichtensteiger YYYYYY
Randel...@scala.com Randell Jesup YYYYYY
Raphael...@eed.ericsson.se Raphael Quinet YYYY-Y
raq...@eskimo.com Jonathan Gan YY-YYN
rboe...@sauron.mpd.tandem.com Ron Boerger YNNNNN
rbta...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Richard Talley YYYYYY
rb...@facstaff.wisc.edu Rebecca Bull YYYYYY
Red...@cris.com Chad Redman YYYYYY
re...@PSW086.PSI.CH Ivan D Reid YYYYYY
reinaert@.icon.co.za reinaert YYYYYY
r...@Eng.Sun.COM Rich McAllister YYYYYY
ribw...@execpc.com Richard B. Woods YYYYYY
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller YYYYYY
r...@isil.lloke.dna.fi Riku Saikkonen YYYYYY
rm...@figment.as.utexas.edu Rebecca G. McQuitty YYNY-N
rne...@cybercom.net Ron Newman YYYYYY
r...@ellery.demon.co.uk Rod Ellery YYYYYY
Roe...@gnn.com Roehl Sybing NNNNNN
ronnie...@mogur.com Ronnie Grant YYYYYY
ro...@capecod.net Dolores Scaldini YYNNNN
rou...@genesis8.frmug.fr.net EMMANUEL ROUSSIN YYYYYY
rou...@cco.caltech.edu Kevin A Roust YYYYYY
rpl...@xylint.co.uk Robert Pluim YYYYYY
rqu...@sprint.net Robert Quinn YYYYYY
r...@cs.stanford.edu Russ Allbery YYYYYY
rr...@loc.gov RR Neuswanger YYYYYY
r...@advanced.org R. S. Camm YYYYYY
ruck...@parc.xerox.com William Rucklidge YYYYYY
ru...@seismo.demon.co.uk Russ Evans YYYYYY
rusw...@i-2000.com Russ Weber YYYYYY
rwie...@i1.net Roger Wiegand YYYYYY
RWP...@science2.watstar.uwaterloo.ca Rick Pikul YYYYYY
sa...@sabri.pc.my S.M.Sabri S.M.Ismail YYYYYY
sa...@chardos.connix.com Scott Kenney YYYYYY
Samuel.S...@uni.massey.ac.nz Sam Stephens YYYYYY
san...@think.com Daan Sandee YYYYYY
sa...@qv3pluto.LeidenUniv.nl Sasha Semenov -YYYYY
satans.lit...@worldnet.att.net Jay Breuer YYYYYY
sbo...@freenet.victoria.bc.ca Stewart Boddy YYYYYY
scb...@ix.netcom.com Cameron Byrd YYYYYY
sche...@fdma.fdma.com Michael S. Scheidell YYYYYY
schn...@voicenet.com Matthew Schnierle YYYNNY
sc...@nortel.ca Stanley Chow YYYYYY
sdav...@lawson.appcomp.utas.edu.au Shaun Davis-Gluyas YYYYYY
seku...@newscorp.com Scott E. Kullberg YYYYYY
se...@panix.com Seth Breidbart YYYYYY
s...@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu Steve Parr YYYYYY
she...@seas.gwu.edu Sheryl Coppenger YYYYYY
shet...@octavian.ICS.UCI.EDU Seth Hettich YYYYYY
sh...@nyx.net Shrisha Rao NNNNNN
sill...@excession.demon.co.uk Keith M. Lucas YYYYYY
si...@darkmere.gen.nz Simon Lyall YYYYYY
sja...@mke.ab.com Steve Anich YYYYYY
sjk...@crl.com Stan Kalisch III YYYYYY
sla...@worldnet.att.net Sean Lamb -Y-YYY
s...@karpes.stu.rpi.edu Simon Karpen YYYYYY
smat...@molbio.med.osaka-u.ac.jp shuji matsuda YYYYYY
sm...@mail.noris.net Matthias Urlichs YYYYYY
sor...@mcs.net David Sorkin YYYYYY
spma...@chat.carleton.ca Sean Maguire YYYYYY
S...@radixii.com Simon S. Goldenberg YYYYYY
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown NNNNNN
sta...@hotmail.com Mike Staloff NYNNNN
stefan...@zetnet.co.uk Stefan M Kapusniak YYYYYY
stef...@thorsen.priv.no Steffen Thorsen YYYYYY
sten.d...@tivoli.com Sten Drescher YYYYYY
Stephan...@dfki.uni-sb.de Stephan Neuhaus YYYYYY
stru...@babylon5.ultranet.com Scot J. Trudeau -YYYYY
s...@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz NYYYYY
stu...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz Stuart Yeates YYYYYY
suga...@world.std.com Steven Garman YYYYYY
sur...@ix.netcom.com Robert C. Jones YYYYYY
sv...@loop.com Chris Blanc <sv...@loop.com> YYYYNY
swil...@channelz.cologne.de Sascha Wildner YYYYYY
syl...@ix.netcom.com Nicholas Sylvain YYYYYY
sy...@kigam.re.kr Sang-yong Suh YYYYYY
tb...@sybase.com Tony Basoglu YYYYYY
tdo...@watson.ibm.com Trevor Dolby YYYYYY
tec...@cris.com Robert Ritter YYYYYY
ther...@wco.com Ravan Asteris YYYYYY
Thomas....@efrei.fr Thomas Parmelan YYYYYY
thomas...@merton.oxford.ac.uk Thomas Womack YYYYYY
tjy...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Timothy J. Young YYYYYY
tk...@nyx.net Terry Knab YYYYYY
tla...@amug.org Todd C. Lawson YYYYYY
tl...@strada.se Tomas Lund YYYYYY
to...@sprynet.com Thomas O'Rear NNNNNN
toml...@loop.com Tom Logan YYYYYY
to...@rust.net Tom Woodhouse YYYYYY
tpr...@ford.com Timothy Prodin YNYYYN
tr...@pathcom.com piranha YYYYYY
true...@hotmail.com Charles Truesdell NNNNNY
tski...@uiuc.edu Tim Skirvin YYYYYY
tur...@animal.blarg.net Tim Crowley YYYYYY
twe...@netcom.com Tabor J. Wells YYYYYY
u...@ltts.com Udo Klimaschewski YYYYYY
uncl...@gte.net Uncle Milty YYYYYY
up...@cableol.co.uk Nick Upson YYYYYY
vas...@drmach.demon.co.uk Rachael Munns YYYYYY
v...@michvhf.com Vince Vielhaber YYYYYY
v...@panix.com Victoria C. Fike YYYYYY
vin...@xs4all.nl Vincent Schonau YYYYYY
wa...@scott.net walt moffett YYYYYY
warg...@patriot.net Cheron Fitzgerald YYYYYY
wedn...@huitzilo.tezcat.com Beverley R. White YYYYYY
w...@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu W. G. Innanen YYYYYY
wolf...@amadeus.m.eunet.de Wolfgang Keller YYYYYY
wom...@aquilagroup.com Christopher M. Conway YYYYYY
wo...@wookie.net Matt Cable YYYYYY
wr...@cco.caltech.edu Patricia R. Wrean YYYYYY
wrol...@NMSU.Edu William H. Rollins YYYYYY
w...@xivic.ruhr.de Wolfgang Schelongowski YYYYYY
yb...@panix.com Ben Yalow YYYYYY
yor...@ic.net Steven Arlow YYYYYY
yu...@nazaroff.msk.ru Yurik V. Nazaroff YYYYYY
z...@ampersand.com Mark Atwood YYYYYY
Votes in error
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dyna...@scott.skidmore.edu Chris
! No vote statement in message
jlow...@pwa.acusd.edu John Lowther
! No vote statement in message
nor...@access.digex.net NorskaWood
! No vote statement in message
ro...@mailgate1.telekom.de Joerg Maass
! Invalid address
t...@cyberspace.com Charles H. Tupper
! No vote statement in message
--
Jani Patokallio <jpat...@alpha.hut.fi>
Voting address: <vot...@hut.fi>
Stan Kalisch III
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah right...
Stan
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Ron Newman
In article <32892882...@frackit.com>,
Dave Ratcliffe <da...@frackit.com> wrote:
>Scanning the NNNNNN votes brings no surprises except in the absence of
>certain net-kooks. They will, of course, claim the vote was bogus and means
>nothing and that the results were "known before the voting started".
I think some of the NNNNNN votes are duplicates, since these all come
from users or psuedonyms at the same domain:
ff...@hotmail.com Fat Freddy's Cat NNNNNN
flu...@hotmail.com Fluffy The Cat NNNNNN
goon...@hotmail.com Goon Squad NNNNNN
gren...@hotmail.com Grendel90 NNNNNN
gro...@hotmail.com Sharon Groppi NNNNNN
meo...@hotmail.com Friendly Neighborhood Meowbot NNNNNN
mlb...@hotmail.com Matthew L. Bruce NNNNNN
Also, given the numerous forged spams in this person's name, I'd be curious
to know if her vote is genuine or a forgery:
pem...@is.NYU.EDU Petrea Mitchell NNNNNN
--
Ron Newman rne...@cybercom.net
Web: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/home.html
Robert Craig Harman
Jani Patokallio wrote:
>
> RESULT
> moderated group news.admin.announce (renames news.admin.net-abuse.announce) passes 443:32
> unmoderated group news.admin.net-abuse.email passes 451:28
> moderated group news.admin.net-abuse.policy passes 441:36
> moderated group news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins passes 448:34
> moderated group news.admin.net-abuse.sightings passes 434:40
> unmoderated group news.admin.net-abuse.usenet passes 447:32
>
> news.admin.net-abuse reorganization results - 486 valid votes
>
> Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
> ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -----------------------------------
> 451 28 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.email
> 441 36 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.policy
> 448 34 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins
> 434 40 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.sightings
> 447 32 : Yes Yes : Yes : news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
<snip>
> news.admin.net-abuse reorganization Final Vote Ack
<snip>
> pa...@santra.hut.fi Robert Craig Harman YYYYYY
While my vote got counted right, I'd like to know how my e-mail
address got mangled from pa...@byu.edu to pa...@santra.hut.fi?
--
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BYU Chemical Engineering recevoir un Livre de Mormon gratuit...
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Russ Allbery
Robert Craig Harman <pa...@byu.edu> writes:
> Jani Patokallio wrote:
>> pa...@santra.hut.fi Robert Craig Harman YYYYYY
> While my vote got counted right, I'd like to know how my e-mail address
> got mangled from pa...@byu.edu to pa...@santra.hut.fi?
If, for some reason, your e-mail went out with a return address of just
<paris> rather than <pa...@byu.edu>, it would probably be rewritten by
Jani's system as <pa...@santra.hut.fi>. That would at least be my first
guess.
--
Russ Allbery (r...@cs.stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
Robert Craig Harman
> > address got mangled from pa...@byu.edu to pa...@santra.hut.fi?
>
> If, for some reason, your e-mail went out with a return address of
> just <paris> rather than <pa...@byu.edu>, it would probably be
> rewritten by Jani's system as <pa...@santra.hut.fi>. That would at
> least be my first guess.
I assume that most systems take the "From:" address to be the
"Reply-to:" address, when one is not specified, as is this case. My
"From" address is set to pa...@byu.edu however.
I'll chalk it up as a weird quirk...