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pet...@my-deja.com

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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Latest Microsoft scandal:
Microsoft paid for ads by "Independent" Institute:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/09/biztech/articles/18soft.html

Previous Microsoft scandals:
Microsoft fakes public support:
http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/BUSINESS/UPDATES/lat_microsoft0410.htm

Microsoft pays college professors for recommending MS products:
http://chronicle.com/data/articles.dir/art-44.dir/issue-33.dir/33a03001.
htm

Moral:
If you hear any one (it could be your professor, the "independent"
institute, your dad, your wife) supporting Microsoft or recommending
Microsoft products, chances are, they are being paid by Microsoft.

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Have you rebooted your NT box today?


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John Hughes

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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<pet...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7s851u$d84$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> Latest Microsoft scandal:
> Microsoft paid for ads by "Independent" Institute:
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/09/biztech/articles/18soft.html
>
> Previous Microsoft scandals:
> Microsoft fakes public support:
> http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/BUSINESS/UPDATES/lat_microsoft0410.htm
>
> Microsoft pays college professors for recommending MS products:
> http://chronicle.com/data/articles.dir/art-44.dir/issue-33.dir/33a03001.
> htm
>
> Moral:
> If you hear any one (it could be your professor, the "independent"
> institute, your dad, your wife) supporting Microsoft or recommending
> Microsoft products, chances are, they are being paid by Microsoft.
>
> --
> Have you rebooted your NT box today?
>

Correct me if im wrong but isnt this newsgroups subject matter Java?


JuanValdez

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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OK. I'll correct you. The advocacy news group has never been devoted
to Java. I thought so too once. But it's obvious subject matter is
'bashing'.

But that's ok. I can bash with the best of them.
>
>
>


Chris Kelly

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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pet...@my-deja.com wrote:
>Latest Microsoft scandal:
> Microsoft paid for ads by "Independent" Institute:
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/09/biztech/articles/18soft.html
>[...]

>Moral:
> If you hear any one (it could be your professor, the "independent"
> institute, your dad, your wife) supporting Microsoft or recommending
> Microsoft products, chances are, they are being paid by Microsoft.

Are other companies guilty of this type of behavior as well,
"Tailgunner Petilon"?

For a start at hunting Reds under the bed, see:

http://www.sirius.com/~mcjester/writings/joemccarthy.html

WhoCares

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:34:39 GMT, pet...@my-deja.com wrote:

>
>Have you rebooted your NT box today?

No. Not in a long time as a matter of fact (cept for installing new
software of course).

WhoCares

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:23:05 GMT, JuanV...@theplantation.com
(JuanValdez) wrote:

>>Correct me if im wrong but isnt this newsgroups subject matter Java?
>OK. I'll correct you. The advocacy news group has never been devoted
>to Java. I thought so too once. But it's obvious subject matter is
>'bashing'.

You obviously don't get it! Windows/C++/Visual Basic/anything M$ just
flat out SUCKS, therefore, Java rules. Logical, no?

pet...@my-deja.com

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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"John Hughes" <ma...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Correct me if im wrong but isnt this newsgroups subject matter Java?
>

There are many newsgroups that have Java as their subject matter.
Have you ever wondered how this one is different from the others?

This is the Java newsgroup where Microsoft pays people to post FUD.
This is where you find lies and propaganda posted incognito by
Microsoft employees.

Every time a negative news story about Microsoft's latest misdeeds
surfaces, people like Chris Kelly come out of the woodworks to
explain away, support, and praise Microsoft. Have you never wondered
about the motivations of these people? Have you never wondered about
the people who condone illegal, egregious behavior by Microsoft by
claiming everyone else does it too?

Don't the stories I pointed you to provide a plausible explanation?
Is it not relevant to what goes on in this newsgroup?

(P.S. Before anyone says they wonder about my support for Sun --
I don't support Sun. I support competition. I love technology.
I firmly believe competition is essential for advancement of
technology. I want Sun and Microsoft to compete on the basis of
their technologies, not on the basis of who is smarter at writing
contracts, or who has better lawyers or marketeers. If you search
dejanews you can find plenty of occasions where I have been harsh
on Sun too.)

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

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Alastair Rae

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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On 21 Sep 1999 18:09:08 -0500, WhoCares <a@b.c> wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:34:39 GMT, pet...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>

>>Have you rebooted your NT box today?
>

>No. Not in a long time as a matter of fact (cept for installing new
>software of course).

Ah, yes, you have to reboot after installing new software, don't you.
Another lovable aspect of MS OS's.

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Rob Eamon

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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pet...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7s9t2j$m84$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>"John Hughes" <ma...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Correct me if im wrong but isnt this newsgroups subject matter Java?
>>
>
>There are many newsgroups that have Java as their subject matter.
>Have you ever wondered how this one is different from the others?
>
>This is the Java newsgroup where Microsoft pays people to post FUD.
>This is where you find lies and propaganda posted incognito by
>Microsoft employees.

I'm growing skeptical of your cynicism.

>
>Every time a negative news story about Microsoft's latest misdeeds
>surfaces, people like Chris Kelly come out of the woodworks to
>explain away, support, and praise Microsoft. Have you never wondered
>about the motivations of these people? Have you never wondered about
>the people who condone illegal, egregious behavior by Microsoft by
>claiming everyone else does it too?

Have you never wondered about the people who propose to be
judge, jury and executioner by asserting they know what is
illegal without the benefit of a law background or without all
the pertinent details of a case?

>
>Don't the stories I pointed you to provide a plausible explanation?
>Is it not relevant to what goes on in this newsgroup?
>
>(P.S. Before anyone says they wonder about my support for Sun --
>I don't support Sun. I support competition. I love technology.
>I firmly believe competition is essential for advancement of
>technology. I want Sun and Microsoft to compete on the basis of
>their technologies, not on the basis of who is smarter at writing
>contracts, or who has better lawyers or marketeers. If you search
>dejanews you can find plenty of occasions where I have been harsh
>on Sun too.)

Well, you can push for this ideal but the practicality of the matter is
that it will never happen. Business has never been only about who
has the better mousetrap.


Chris Kelly

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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pet...@my-deja.com wrote:
>"John Hughes" <ma...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Correct me if im wrong but isnt this newsgroups subject matter Java?
>>
>
>There are many newsgroups that have Java as their subject matter.
>Have you ever wondered how this one is different from the others?
>
>This is the Java newsgroup where Microsoft pays people to post FUD.
>This is where you find lies and propaganda posted incognito by
>Microsoft employees.
>
>Every time a negative news story about Microsoft's latest misdeeds
>surfaces, people like Chris Kelly come out of the woodworks to
>explain away, support, and praise Microsoft. Have you never wondered
>about the motivations of these people? Have you never wondered about
>the people who condone illegal, egregious behavior by Microsoft by
>claiming everyone else does it too?

Actually, every time you post something I find extremely funny, I try
my darnedest to return the favor by replying. ;)

Your latest post takes the cake: "If you hear any one (it could be


your professor, the "independent" institute, your dad, your wife)
supporting Microsoft or recommending Microsoft products, chances are,

they are being paid by Microsoft." Have you been reading up on Joe
McCarthy lately or something?

If you think I'm a paid MS FUDster, please come right out and say it.

BTW, the correct phrase is "out of the woodwork", no "s". ;)

>Don't the stories I pointed you to provide a plausible explanation?
>Is it not relevant to what goes on in this newsgroup?
>
>(P.S. Before anyone says they wonder about my support for Sun --
>I don't support Sun. I support competition. I love technology.
>I firmly believe competition is essential for advancement of
>technology. I want Sun and Microsoft to compete on the basis of
>their technologies, not on the basis of who is smarter at writing
>contracts, or who has better lawyers or marketeers. If you search
>dejanews you can find plenty of occasions where I have been harsh
>on Sun too.)
>

>Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
>
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>
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Zenin

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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JuanValdez <JuanV...@theplantation.com> wrote:
: On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:14:45 +0100, "John Hughes"
>snip<
:>Correct me if im wrong but isnt this newsgroups subject matter Java?
:
: OK. I'll correct you. The advocacy news group has never been devoted to

: Java. I thought so too once. But it's obvious subject matter is
: 'bashing'.

Correct. comp.lang.java.advocacy is just another way of spelling,
"alt.flame". :-)

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