Salvation through Zermatism
Dr Sinister
Those who voice opinion regarding the nature of present day govermental
theory and policies are actually doing so out of frustration, since they
are powerless to affect change in any way, nor are the educated elite of
the masses (which form a thin layer of mould atop the feces that
comprises humanity) likely to be influenced by their drivel and hoplessly
naive Gene Roddenberry-like rhetoric. What we need are solutions,
statutes, and postulations for a major reworking of the social fabric.
Along this vein I shall reveal unto you all a new model for social
integration and governmental policy, derived from an all-encompassing
philosophical system of enlightened semantic interpretation known as
'Zermatism', which is the result of formidable thought on my part. And
when you consider that one of my thoughts is typically worth a thousand
of your own, you would do well to pay heed to my presentation herein.
Essentially, the social structure derived from Zermatic logic is quite
similar to the US democratic system, whith a few modifications:
Manifesto of Zermatic Postulates Regarding a New Social Fabric v1.0
1. The last million years of mankind's history can be summarized as men
clubbing each other's heads in with a progression in sophistication of
implements starting with rocks and wooden branches to lumber and then
flint tomahawks. When man discovered carpentry he progressed to bashing
his opponent's skulls with mallets and finely carved table-legs.
Gradually he progressed to ball-peen hammers, and finally to 20th century
black-and-decker ware. This lamentable heritage is the result of man's
desire to arbitrarily impose his pointless will on another equally
ignorant recipient. Zermatism teaches that if something has been going on
for a million years, it's not likely to change, and so policies must be
defined to deal with this innate abhomination in the soul of mankind,
rather than to eliminate it.
2. We are all taught the fallacy that we are free, that we have innate
freedom to express ourselves, that our opinions are not worth shit, and
we have some value as individuals. We must dispel this confusion, and
strike it from our minds. Teaching those that have no value, even as fuel
or construction material, that they are worth something as individuals
plants seeds of criminality deep within their minds. When a useless fool
finally discovers that he is a useless pathetic fool, that his much
-lauded individuality + $2 might buy him a coffee, his mind snaps and he
then turns to destroying society without guilt or conscience, through
violent acts, sexual deviance, defrauding the elderly, selling junk
bonds, producing TV shows, or working in telemarketing. Zermatism
dictates that true freedom of speech must be granted only to those who
have something to say, and not to those who wish to spend energy debating
the relative merits of Marilyn Manson vs Dick Rivers. How does Zermatism
decide who is worthy to speak? I'm glad you asked that question.
5. Pain, misery, and oppression are the paths to salvation, social
perfection, and true freedom. Freedom of speech cannot be appreciated
unless we have lost it first. Therefore, all members of Zermatic Utopia
shall spend the first 18 years of their lives in absolute silence, living
off a diet of alfalfa, soybeans, and grass. This penance trains the
individual to speak only when he has something of value to say. In all
probablility, anything a sub-adult can say is of no value to anyone
anyway. We must also recognize that 99% of the thought processes engaged
by the average human is an utterly irrational stream of consciousness:
e.g., "I've got a bad cast in this Modula 3 thread, where's the docs? Did
I hear that on Stern? No but god my boss stinks when he farts, I'm
running out of cream of corn, got to get Michelle to pick up some, man
why are her tits so fucking flabby?" Oppression of the sub-adult may not
suppress these irrationally connected thoughts internally, but at least
the rest of are spared from hearing them.
3. Cultures that implement the death penalty are fundamentally skewed
toward barbarism and shall never rise above their fecal bilge-water
status. Zermatism teaches more humane ways of dealing with crime, namely
that crime must be decriminalized. This also would eliminate the entire
legal system, which is a drain on society's resources. In modern society,
individuals are encouraged to become criminals because the opposite sex
finds criminal behavior sexually stimulating. Chicks dig bikers, mafia
dons in sharp suits, and Jamaican dope-dealers. Consider the case of
Peter Kurten, Germany's most notorious serial killer. While waiting for
his execution, he recieved over 1000 bouquets of roses with attached
marriage proposals from women all over Europe. Now, chicks may find
serial killers sexy, but they do not find schizophrenics sexy. When was
the last time you heard a woman say, "oh yeah I really like that type of
guy, the tall handsome hallucinating bed-wetting freak with a five
o'clock shadow... I wish he'd just bend me over the pool table... "?
That's right you've never heard this, because women do not fantasize
about schizos and manic depressives. Therefore, it is obvious that if we
reclassified crime as a form of schizophrenia or dissociative identity
diosorder, and forced criminals to wear pyjamas and straitjackets, we
would then remove the sexual mystique of crime. Criminals of all types
can find new homes incarcerated in asylums and mad-houses, including tax
evaders, jaywalkers, those who charge good money for shoddy cabinet
workmanship, and people who rip off the tags on matresses that say 'do
not remove'. This is all quite obvious, and Zermatism teaches that what
is obvious should be implemented. As a long-term solution to habitual
offenders, I propose the liberal and unrestricted use of the prefrontal
lucotomy procedure. The procedure should also be administered free to
those who desire it, which is logical, since anyone who actually wants a
prefrontal lucotomy is in definite need of one.
4. Government leaders must be executed after their term is up. This shall
ensure that only the most altruistic and dedicated among us will
contemplate public life and civil servitude. Those who consider election
to public office simply as a vertical career move will think twice about
it.
6. Zermatism dictates that goverment can never be populated with anything
other than filthy boil-stricken theives, toothless whores bursting with
gonnorrhea, closet grave robbers, and drooling Satanists that laugh as
they pull wings off flies. Even in the utopian context this ever-present
aberration can never be wholly eliminated, only suppressed. If this truth
is suppressed for too long, the public, being of infinite latitude in
their stupidity, lose sight of the actual pus-layer of the government,
and delude themselves into thinking that they are happy, free and
unoppressed. We cannot allow such delusions to propagate indefinitely.
Therefore every 20 years, the citizen will have all his possesions and
assets stripped from him, and the proceeds shall go to the government
coffers. With a fresh issue of the standard government canvas pyjamas as
sole material belongings, the citizen is now free to make a new start of
his life. This is an important symbolic gesture, since it reminds the
citizen of the true nature of government, lest he forgot while basking in
the bliss of Utopia. This also greatly simplifies taxation policies and
the paperwork associated with the taxation industry.
7. The plague of discrimination and racism cannot be eliminated from
present day society because the masses have erroneous conceptions as to
the true nature of 'equality'. Zermatic logic presents us with a new
clear implementation of equality and fundamental human rights. How can we
eliminate discrimination based on race when there are other forms of
discrimination infecting all levels of society? For example: have you
ever wanted to practice plastic surgery, but could not because you
weren't a member of the elitist medical subculture? That's
discrimination. Zermatic equality corrects this by rotating all postions
in society - social, cultural, sexual, job-related, etc - in 24 hour
shifts. So today you may be a baloney-skinner, but tommorow you may be an
armature-winder or opthamologist. Family positions, like father, mother,
sister, etc, are also rotated every 24 hours. Now, you may be alarmed at
the thought of some village idiot replacing your surgeon while he's
working on your colostomy, but let me say that in the true spirit of
equality we all have rights to medical malpractice, and this policy
ensures it is distributed in a statistically unbiased manner.
8. The introduction of two separate and non-exchangable forms of
currency, one shall be used solely for the purpose of buying, the other
for selling. The theory of Zermatic bilateral currency economies is a bit
complex, so I shall defer a more complete presentation of this aspect for
a later date. In essence, this economic system would eliminate inflation,
profit-gouging, and the power of market speculation shylocks who dupe the
public into overcapitalizing GlobalTrade Corp. stocks by 500 million
dollars, when in fact the corporation is run from the back office of Wang
Lee's Noodle House.
9. Further principles are pending.
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Sorry, I already thought of this years ago. However, unlike you, I
took it all the way to its logical conclusion and discovered that it'd
never work. Better luck next time, man.
Walter
#1461
On 20 Jun 1999 01:24:24 GMT, Dr Sinister <drsin...@my-dejanews.com>
wrote:
Martin
> Preamble
>
> Those who voice opinion regarding the nature of present day govermental
> theory and policies are actually doing so out of frustration, since they
> are powerless to affect change in any way,
-as you are doing right now, kook
> nor are the educated elite of
> the masses (which form a thin layer of mould atop the feces that
> comprises humanity)
-notice how lovingly he alludes to his own species
> likely to be influenced by their drivel and hoplessly
> naive Gene Roddenberry-like rhetoric. What we need are solutions,
> statutes, and postulations for a major reworking of the social fabric.
> Along this vein I shall reveal unto you all a new model for social
> integration and governmental policy, derived from an all-encompassing
> philosophical system of enlightened semantic interpretation known as
> 'Zermatism'
-not only sociopathic, he also personifies classic kookiness
> , which is the result of formidable thought on my part. And
> when you consider that one of my thoughts is typically worth a thousand
> of your own,
-more of his egoistic, psychopathic invective
> you would do well to pay heed to my presentation herein.
> Essentially, the social structure derived from Zermatic logic
-even creates his unique brand of logic in an attempt to toughen his flawed,
kookish ideas
> is quite
> similar to the US democratic system, whith a few modifications:
>
> Manifesto of Zermatic Postulates Regarding a New Social Fabric v1.0
-the unabomber also wrote a manifesto. However his, unlike yours, was
written from a viewpoint couched closer to sanity.
<cut manifesto rant for brevity>
A clue for the Dr: 30mg of moclobemide per day can be very psychotherapeutic.
Cheers,
Martin.
Dr Sinister
[snip Martin's vomit bile-stench]
>A clue for the Dr: 30mg of moclobemide per day can be very
>psychotherapeutic.
I don't approve of drugs. Drugs will fuck up your head. Stay away from
them, Marty!
Sara951288
rambling. It isn't even that well thought-out. There are solutions for a few
things that are stated that are just straight-up dumb, but I don't see much
else. I prefer my own rules in life:
1. Do what's best for yourself
2. Don't get caught
3. Stupidity is the only true sin
4. Don't narc on your true friends
It doesn't particularly solve much for society on a whole, at least not
directly, as far as conservative morals go, but works pretty well on an
individual basis. It's better to make the world fit you than trying to fit in
the world! Caring too much about society also gets nothing worth shit done,
you have to instead focus on yourself. And anyone you must step over probably
isn't worth your respect anyway.
Sara.
"We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them
personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me." - Jack Handy, Deep
Thoughts
Nick S Bensema
Martin <zaw...@space.net.au> wrote:
>Dr. Sinister, Kook of the Hour wrote:
>> likely to be influenced by their drivel and hoplessly
>> naive Gene Roddenberry-like rhetoric. What we need are solutions,
>> statutes, and postulations for a major reworking of the social fabric.
>> Along this vein I shall reveal unto you all a new model for social
>> integration and governmental policy, derived from an all-encompassing
>> philosophical system of enlightened semantic interpretation known as
>> 'Zermatism'
>
And he seems to be slandering Star Track, too.
I like his idea of everyone giving up all their possessions every
20 years. I'd like to see him try that just once.
--
Nick Bensema <ni...@primenet.com> UIN: 2135445 This
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wastes
What I did here would have been rebellious in 1993. --> bandwidth.
Leo Sgouros
Sara951288 <sara9...@aol.comSara> wrote in message
news:19990619235451...@ng-fm1.aol.com...
> Wow. You know what kinda idiot you are?
audience yells
-HOW MANY KINDS ARE THERE
*******************************
What a load of fucked-up, pointless
> rambling. It isn't even that well thought-out.
Next time you ramble, get the fuck *down*,and have a sharp point.Make sure
your *it* is planned well.
There are solutions for a few
> things that are stated that are just straight-up dumb, but I don't see
much
> else.
Yeah I think gas caps are stupid too.
They should just have these tube-like honker things that stick out of the
top of the bottom of the gas station that you just drive on to.
You can see that.
I prefer my own rules in life:
>
> 1. Do what's best for yourself
As opposed to shooting at cops
> 2. Don't get caught
shoot from really far away
> 3. Stupidity is the only true sin
on second thought, shooting cops is st00pid
> 4. Don't narc on your true friends
dan did *not* shoot at that bird
> It doesn't particularly solve much for society on a whole, at least not
> directly, as far as conservative morals go, but works pretty well on an
> individual basis.
Although this thesis adresses none of the issues facing us today,you could
view it as feel good legislation for the terminally oedipal/dipole
It's better to make the world fit you than trying to fit in
> the world!
Indeed!
***********************************
applause applause applause
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Caring too much about society also gets nothing worth shit done,
> you have to instead focus on yourself.
To get something worth shit.done.
And anyone you must step over probably
> isn't worth your respect anyway.
Is that a leather heel?
>
>
> Sara.
> "We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at
them
> personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me." - Jack Handy,
Deep
> Thoughts
Best part.
Pert Moss
China Blue
[|>20 years. I'd like to see him try that just once.
[|>
[|>--
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Stefan Elisa Kapusniak
In alt.religion.kibology, Dr Sinister <drsin...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>1. The last million years of mankind's history can be summarized as men
>clubbing each other's heads in with a progression in sophistication of
>implements starting with rocks and wooden branches to lumber and then
>flint tomahawks. When man discovered carpentry he progressed to bashing
>his opponent's skulls with mallets and finely carved table-legs.
>Gradually he progressed to ball-peen hammers, and finally to 20th century
>black-and-decker ware. This lamentable heritage is the result of man's
>desire to arbitrarily impose his pointless will on another equally
>ignorant recipient. Zermatism teaches that if something has been going on
>for a million years, it's not likely to change, and so policies must be
>defined to deal with this innate abhomination in the soul of mankind,
>rather than to eliminate it.
At last someone prepared to take up the mantle of Szukalski
and apply the teachings of Zermatism to the everyday problems
of todays world!
However I feel, Dr. Sinister, that you give insufficient
attention to the lose of the universal Protong within your
analysis. A fact I find suprising given your obvious
familarity with the work of Poland's greatest artist of the
pre-war period and one of this centuries greatest thinkers.
We see it as tragically inevitable that his philosophical
insights should be overshadowed by the little regarded
pseudo-science of such agents of disinformation and error
as his fellow countryman and parvenu Korzybski.
However, I feel it an error that you dismiss the progression
from the table-leg to the portable circular saw, as _merely_
a result of the arbitrary desire to impose pointless will.
I find it the duty of the Zermatist to analyse what motivates
such arbitary and evidently deeply communist cravings.
A little contemplation upon the issue yields the insight
that this desire springs indirectly from the loss of the
Protong in deluge and brought forth from our manape ancestary
the long supressed equally arbitary and pointless craving
amongst all men for the vitalist delusion named we name
'respect' supressing the instincts engendered by the
ultraterrestrial parts of our genetic makeup.
The blows against the head of the fellow-man whether with
the mallet or the ball-peen hammer, have as their raw aim
the inculcation of this pathological mind-state within
witnesses to such an event. Indeed the manape upon the
receiving end of such actions quickly learns that in order
to satisfy his own cravings for respect delusion he must
wield a similar contempt and violence against all
those who seem upon weaker ground than him.
From this basis must flow our Zermatic analysis rather than
the the more, forgive me, superficial grounds that you put
forward.
-- Kapusniak, Stefan e
Matthias Weiss
>
> Preamble
<snip>
I say, he put a lot of work into this, and I had a good chuckle reading
it. I don't like much of what Sinister writes, but this I do. Even
though his solutions seem a bit, uhm, far-fetched (thus humorous), the
problems addressed I can sure identify with. That's the essence of
grotesque.
I wish he'd use his wit exclusively for this kind of post, rather than
going around alienating individuals in pointless, yet endless, duels of
personal insults.
Matthias.
Craig McDonald
wrote:
<snip>
> Oppression of the sub-adult may not
>suppress these irrationally connected thoughts internally, but at least
>the rest of are spared from hearing them.
Thats what killfiles were invented for.
<snip>
> In modern society,
>individuals are encouraged to become criminals because the opposite sex
>finds criminal behavior sexually stimulating. Chicks dig bikers, mafia
>dons in sharp suits, and Jamaican dope-dealers. Consider the case of
>Peter Kurten, Germany's most notorious serial killer. While waiting for
>his execution, he recieved over 1000 bouquets of roses with attached
>marriage proposals from women all over Europe.
Translation: Sinister isn't getting any. Pass another Kleenex.
You continually ask questions of atheists and yet you seem unable to
answer those that are put to you. Discussion doesn't work like that.
So, Sinny.... as you are still here (can't you find alt.misanthropy?)
I will have to activate my much-underused killfile. You will be
joining the esteemed company of Sutter and Simon Kent. Hey! the entire
content of my killfile begins with "S". Spooky.
<PLONK>
Three plonks in three years of usenet. Not bad.
Red Celt
#883
Leo Sgouros
>
> So, Sinny.... as you are still here (can't you find alt.misanthropy?)
> I will have to activate my much-underused killfile. You will be
> joining the esteemed company of Sutter and Simon Kent. Hey! the entire
> content of my killfile begins with "S". Spooky.
>
> <PLONK>
>
> Three plonks in three years of usenet. Not bad.
>
>
> Red Celt
> #883
>
hmmmm.
this act you equate with some superiority-yet this plonk has not even near
the effect on the real world as a raindrop in a week long thunderstorm.
Ssa Gums
China Blue
[|>
[|>hmmmm.
[|>this act you equate with some superiority-yet this plonk has not even near
[|>the effect on the real world as a raindrop in a week long thunderstorm.
You don't understand the true purpose *plonk*ing. It's not really "I'm not
listenning dumdeededeededee I can't hear you deededeededeedum."
It's about maintaining group cohesion in the absence of electronically
transmitted pheromes. By announcing a *plonk*, you alerting rest of your
group that HE is not one of US, and so if you want to remain one of US,
you have to join me in ostracising the interloper.
I discussed in Chapter 4 of my book _Profiles in Mediocrity_.
By the way, Red Celt,
*plonk*
Beable van
<djenny-2106...@ppp-206-170-2-75.sntc01.pacbell.net>,
dje...@my-dejanews.com (China Blue) wrote:
> [|>> Three plonks in three years of usenet. Not bad.
> [|>
> [|>hmmmm.
> [|>this act you equate with some superiority-yet this plonk has not
even near
> [|>the effect on the real world as a raindrop in a week long
thunderstorm.
>
> You don't understand the true purpose *plonk*ing. It's not really "I'm
> not
> listenning dumdeededeededee I can't hear you deededeededeedum."
LALALALALLALALLALAALALAAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!
LALALALALLALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING!!11!
> It's about maintaining group cohesion in the absence of electronically
> transmitted pheromes. By announcing a *plonk*, you alerting rest of
> your
> group that HE is not one of US, and so if you want to remain one of
> US,
> you have to join me in ostracising the interloper.
DEEDLY-DEE I'VE GOT MY FINGERS STUCK IN MY EARS^H^H^H^HEYES!
I CAN'T READ YOUR DUMM POST!!1!
> I discussed in Chapter 4 of my book _Profiles in Mediocrity_.
>
> By the way, Red Celt,
>
> *plonk*
I heard THAT but! How could you plonk Red Celt?
WHY WHY WHY? Why would you plonk him on a
beautiful day like today? WELL I'M NOT GOING
TO STAND FOR IT! TAKE THIS, CHINA WHITE,
IF THAT *IS* YOUR *REAL* NAME!
******PERRR-LLONNNNKKKKKKK*******
(that means *PLONK*!)
cheers
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<stefan...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> From this basis must flow our Zermatic analysis rather than
> the the more, forgive me, superficial grounds that you put
> forward.
You're wrong. The proof is on www.protong.org, somewhere....
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China Blue
[|>IF THAT *IS* YOUR *REAL* NAME!
something appropriate
beelzebu...@my-deja.com
>
> >
> > Those who voice opinion regarding the nature of present day
govermental
> > theory and policies are actually doing so out of frustration, since
they
> > are powerless to affect change in any way,
>
You say that like it's a BAD thing!
> > nor are the educated elite of
> > the masses (which form a thin layer of mould atop the feces that
> > comprises humanity)
>
> -notice how lovingly he alludes to his own species
NOT! I have it on great authority that he was BROUGHT BY ALIENS!
> > likely to be influenced by their drivel and hoplessly
> > naive Gene Roddenberry-like rhetoric. What we need are solutions,
> > statutes, and postulations for a major reworking of the social
fabric.
> > Along this vein I shall reveal unto you all a new model for social
> > integration and governmental policy, derived from an all-
encompassing
> > philosophical system of enlightened semantic interpretation known as
> > 'Zermatism'
>
> -not only sociopathic, he also personifies classic kookiness
Once again with the negative! One would think you're BIGOTED against
KOOKS! For shame! For SHAME! Wait'll Janet Reno hears about this!
> > , which is the result of formidable thought on my part. And
> > when you consider that one of my thoughts is typically worth a
thousand
> > of your own,
>
> -more of his egoistic, psychopathic invective
And you still insist on judging this SAVIOR from the ALIENS by your
merehume standards! WAKE UP!
> > you would do well to pay heed to my presentation herein.
> > Essentially, the social structure derived from Zermatic logic
>
> -even creates his unique brand of logic in an attempt to toughen his
flawed,
> kookish ideas
I'm gettin' REALLY MAD at you for your KOOK BIGOTRY! Somebody get out
the SHAVED GERBILS!
> > is quite
> > similar to the US democratic system, whith a few modifications:
> >
> > Manifesto of Zermatic Postulates Regarding a New Social Fabric v1.0
>
> -the unabomber also wrote a manifesto. However his, unlike yours, was
> written from a viewpoint couched closer to sanity.
And see where it got him? "Sanity" is a much-overrated mental state.
> <cut manifesto rant for brevity>
>
> A clue for the Dr: 30mg of moclobemide per day can be very
psychotherapeutic.
>
Normality: just say "no"!
da Baron
Craig McDonald
wrote:
>[|>> Three plonks in three years of usenet. Not bad.
>[|>
>[|>hmmmm.
>[|>this act you equate with some superiority-yet this plonk has not even near
>[|>the effect on the real world as a raindrop in a week long thunderstorm.
>
>You don't understand the true purpose *plonk*ing. It's not really "I'm not
>listenning dumdeededeededee I can't hear you deededeededeedum."
To me, plonking is a last resort when all else has failed. That
doesn't mean that I require the plonked to agree with everything (or
indeed anything) I say. It means that I require the plonked to at
least be open for 2-way discussion else what is the point? Dialogue
not monologue.
It also saves shitloads of bandwidth.
>It's about maintaining group cohesion in the absence of electronically
>transmitted pheromes.
Well as this is only my 3rd plonk, I'll defer to your greater wisdom
on the subject.
>By announcing a *plonk*, you alerting rest of your
>group that HE is not one of US, and so if you want to remain one of US,
>you have to join me in ostracising the interloper.
Funnily enough, a large number of people have already killfiled him so
I can hardly be accused of trying to set a trend. I think I showed a
remarkable level of patience to have left it this long.
>I discussed in Chapter 4 of my book _Profiles in Mediocrity_.
You know so much about mediocrity that you feel capable of writing a
book? Wow.
You sad sad sad little person you :)
>
>By the way, Red Celt,
>
>*plonk*
My tears overfloweth
Red Celt
#883
David O'Bedlam
Hash: SHA1
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, China Blue wrote:
> something appropriate
There can be nothing "appropriate" to, on or from
alt.religion.kibology.
Your license is hereby revoked. Please return your
Official Propeller Beanie by return email.
Officiously,
TheDavid
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Carlos Froggy
That JHVH david lynch d00d <dfly...@louisville.edu> explained:
: nonononononononono. (to be sung in christian vander voice)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Christian Vader"? YM "Darth HocSignoVences".
: "*plonk*", always with the asterisks for some reason, means "you're too
: boring to even bother jeering at anymore. yawn."
Indeed.
-- Froggy, who doesn't know who "christian vander" is,
but thanks to the wonders of wackyparsing is picturing
a televangelist in a Star Wars helmet.
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"I have "I'm With Stupid" t-shirts, except no matter who's wearing them,
the arrow always points at God. It's a serious, reverent form of religion,
much like 'Batman'." --ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) ***
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Francesco Benvenuto
in alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology,talk.bizarre,alt.misanthropy,
david lynch <dfly...@louisville.edu> wrote:
$ nonononononononono. (to be sung in christian vander voice)
Last year, between the months of March and May, I attempted to post
an article about Christian Vander and Magma four times.
To the best of my knowledge nobody ever saw it.
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fB
M. Otis Beard
Francesco Benvenuto wrote in message ...
Who is Christian Vander, and what is Magma?
-M. Ourgon Beard
Francesco Benvenuto
in alt.religion.kibology, "M. Otis Beard" <bar...@uswest.net> wrote:
$ Who is Christian Vander, and what is Magma?
Who is Christian Vander that we should be mindful of it?
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fB
Francesco Benvenuto
in alt.religion.kibology, fb...@iol.it (Francesco Benvenuto) wrote:
$ Last year, between the months of March and May, I attempted to post
$ an article about Christian Vander and Magma four times.
$
$ To the best of my knowledge nobody ever saw it.
I've long since deleted the original article, but it revolved around the
following quote:
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MAGMA
For several years France's leading underground group, Magma were formed
by Christian Vander - under heavy early influence of jazz saxophonist
John Coltrane - to perform enormous oratorio concerning Earth's future.
Their eponymous debut, a double, portrays a vast interstellar journey;
the second, 1001 Degrees Centigrades, concerns rivalry between Earth and
the imaginary planet Kobaia (Kobaia also being the name of a new
language Vander invented, and which is used by his singers).
Released 1970 and 1971 respectively, these purported to be parts one and
two of an eventual nine-album work known as Theusz Hamtaakh. However, by
the third album Mekhanic Destructiw Komandoh (1973) Magma personnel had
altered radically over policy disagreement and a choir had been drafted
in to tell story of the end of the world.
(...) a whole new crop of French musicians coming in for Kohntarkosz,
released early 1975 (...)
Musically complex, ambitious but prone to repetition, Magma are open to
criticism for the humourless and irredeemable pretentiousness of their
overall concept. Since continuity of work is rigidly controlled by
Vander - who cites Stravinsky, Bartok, Stockhausen and Ornette Coleman
among other influences - any of their albums can be taken as
representative.
Nick Logan and Bob Woffingden "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Rock"
2nd edition - Harmony Books, NY (1977) ISBN 0-517-53411-8
========================================================================
I did comment about Christian Vander obviously being under other
influences than merely John "Chi" Coltrane's and Ornette "Gary" Coleman's.
Not an overall bad choice for a Kibologist to listen to.
We know Kibo visited the Moon and Neptune, but what about Kobaia?
Does Kibo originate from Kobaia? Is Kobaia a reorbited Venus?
On the same orbit than Earth, only on the opposite side of the Sun?
BTW, the Encyclopedia - which I colloquially refer to as "the bible" is
very good - if 22 years out of date... if your elder brother owns a
copy steal it. Highly recommended as a basic text. I bought it in S.F.
20 years ago, as the Italian edition was nothing but a very poor
translation of the first English edition and it had an added section on
Italian bands which was truly awful.
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fBÂ