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JIGSAW1695

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:15:57 PM2/22/03
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Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?

Jigsaw

A Planet Visitor

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Feb 23, 2003, 3:32:27 AM2/23/03
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On 23 Feb 2003 03:15:57 GMT, jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

>Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>
>Jigsaw

So very glad you asked. Go to http://www.google.com. Click on Groups. Click on
"advanced group search." Enter "alt.activism.death-penalty" in the "Newsgroup"
block. Enter "dolly" in the "author" for more recent messages, OR "desmond"
in the "author" for messages he posted that he did not block archiving... oh...so
long ago. Use the other blocks as indicated to search for words, phrases, subjects
or dates. Click on "Google search."

Happy hunting....


PV

JIGSAW1695

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Feb 23, 2003, 10:28:42 AM2/23/03
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>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...
>From: A Planet Visitor abc...@zbqytr.ykq
>Date: 2/23/2003 3:32 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <s81h5v8livt57guv4...@4ax.com>
===============================

Thanks, it worked just as you said it would.

Reviewing some of the messages Dezi has posted reminded me of what an idiot he
is.

One of the most obvious faults is his inability to answer a question without an
insult.

It is probably a product of his feeling of inferiority as a child and
subsequent failures as he "grew up".

Jigsaw

JIGSAW1695

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Feb 23, 2003, 10:35:22 AM2/23/03
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Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 2/23/2003 5:13 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <jfjmi-...@zeouane.org>

le Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:32:27 GMT, dans l'article
<s81h5v8livt57guv4...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>>Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?

> So very glad you asked.

I bet you are. Obsessive stalkers have to stick together, eh ? LOL !!

> Go to http://www.google.com. Click on Groups. Click on "advanced group
> search." Enter "alt.activism.death-penalty" in the "Newsgroup" block.
> Enter "dolly" in the "author"

He asked for messages that I had written, FuckWit; not messages that your
AOL account had 'archived' (sic).

{ snip }

> Happy
stalking.....


Desmond Coughlan
===============================
Reading your past messages can hardly be considered stalking Dezi.

And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she may be).

Jigsaw

dirtdog

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Feb 23, 2003, 10:55:18 AM2/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:32:27 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
wrote:

Ho ho ho.

If ever there was evidence that you, you sad, obsessed and cowardly
old man, were the almost universally killfiled waste of space, time
and money known as 'Dr Dolly', this is it.

For not far off a year now, you have whittled away these, the twilight
days of your life slavishly 'archiving' [sic] Desmond's posts, sorry,
post's in the performance of a 'public service' which nobody wants.

One can almost imagine the email to Jiggy.

'Hay there pardner. That desis pi's'sing me off even more now that eye
am beeing spanked hard on a daley baysi's by that INSANE lover oF the
_GREAT WHITE WHALE_.

Even the f*****g AOL accownt whot I pay for each month so I can pow'st
desis powst's again bekor'se he is two 'scared too have his pow'st's
arkhived in goggle dues'nt pi's's him off bekor'se evriebody
killfile's it. Eye had to chagne to 'Dolly Jnr' ree'sentlie to get
around peepuls killfile's.

Anyway's. Mary-Pascale 'said to me that eye shood quit it and cansull
the AOL akownt so I have more dollar's for beer. I said "shut up you
stoopid f******g bitch and cook me sum f******g grits" then I punched
the bitch in the mowth. Tha'tll teech her.

So, freind can you pow'st a me's'sage to AADP a'sking how you can look
up EVIL DESIS pow'st's so eye can 'show the f******g old bitch that
poepul need the 'servi'se's of Dr Dolly Coughlan.

Thank's

PV'

What a pair of sad fuckwits, sorry, fuckwit's you two really are!

w00f
"...morality is not a social construct."
(kwag...@aol.com) - LMAO!
"Everyone is INNOCENT of DESERVING to be murdered"
(A Planet Visitor) - LMAO!
"There is no such thing as irreparable damage"
(drdoody) - LMAO!

Rev. Don Kool

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Feb 23, 2003, 10:55:04 AM2/23/03
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If only he would grow up. :-(

Grown-ups know that the just Death Penalty is the only appropriate and
morally right punishment for those who choose to murder. Eurotrash does
not.

Hope this helps,
Don

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Rev. Don Kool

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:16:46 AM2/23/03
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What an airtight proof that PV has the murderer lovers on the run.
LOL!! Of course the idea that proven murderers should not be justly
punished has never been one that held up to the light of reason.

dirtdog

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Feb 23, 2003, 12:00:17 PM2/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:16:46 -0500, "Rev. Don Kool"
<old...@comcast.net> wrote:

<povvy trolling snipped>

C'mon, Don. What do you take me for?

<insert 'murderer lover' or 'eurotrash' as required>

Rev. Don Kool

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Feb 23, 2003, 5:09:07 PM2/23/03
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dirtdog wrote:
> "Rev. Don Kool" wrote:

[...snip...]

> C'mon, Don. What do you take me for?

A murderer loving fool.

Happy to have cleared things up for you,

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Feb 23, 2003, 5:22:15 PM2/23/03
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In article <20030223103522...@mb-fl.aol.com>,
jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she may
> be).

No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
I can well do without at that bandwidth.

Mr Q. Z. D.
--
Drinker, systems administrator, wannabe writer, musician and all-round bastard.
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If you're missing two fingers." - Tom Lehrer ((O))

Rev. Don Kool

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Feb 23, 2003, 5:39:55 PM2/23/03
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Herbie wrote:
> jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

>>And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she may
>>be).
>
>
> No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
> 28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
> I can well do without at that bandwidth.

Piker. LOL!!


Yours in the glory that is our Lord Jesus Christ

JIGSAW1695

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Feb 23, 2003, 5:52:47 PM2/23/03
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Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...
From: "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks
Date: 2/23/2003 5:22 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <jonathan-E81107...@newsroom.utas.edu.au>

In article <20030223103522...@mb-fl.aol.com>,
jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she may
> be).

No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
I can well do without at that bandwidth.

Mr Q. Z. D.
===============================
True. But it is a minor inconvenience when compared with the historical
significance of retrieving the messages written by Dezi.

So far Dezi is the only one on the NG who has refused to archive his posts. One
can only imagine why he is engaging in this coverup.

Jigsaw

Rev. Don Kool

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Feb 23, 2003, 6:20:37 PM2/23/03
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One doesn't have to imagine. Desi is obviously tired of having his
insane postings come back to haunt him.

Hope this helps,

Dolly Coughlan Jr

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Feb 23, 2003, 9:29:44 PM2/23/03
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In article <c7dmi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...

>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:26:53 +0000
>
>le 23 Feb 2003 03:15:57 GMT, dans l'article
><20030222221557...@mb-mp.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...

>
>> Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>

>ROTFLMAO !!
>
>*stalker alert*
>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |desmond @ zeouane . org
>http://www.zeouane.org/
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
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>\ \ / /_ _ _ __ ___ __ _| |__ __ _ \ \ / /__ / ___| | _ \/ |
> \ V / _` | '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ / _` | \ V / / /| |_ _____| |_) | |
> | | (_| | | | | | | (_| | | | | (_| | | | / /_| _|_____| _ <| |
> |_|\__,_|_| |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|\__,_| |_| /____|_| |_| \_\_|
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------- Headers --------------------
>
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dhcp212-198-68.noos.FR!not-
>for-mail
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty


>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...

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>User-Agent: tin/1.5.14-20020926 ("Soil") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.5-RELEASE (i386))
>
>


Dolly Coughlan Jr, the legend continues!
As Desi lies, the archive grows!

Dolly Coughlan Jr

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Feb 23, 2003, 9:29:45 PM2/23/03
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In article <jfjmi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:13:39 +0000


>
>le Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:32:27 GMT, dans l'article
><s81h5v8livt57guv4...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor

><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>
>>>Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>

>> So very glad you asked.
>

>I bet you are. Obsessive stalkers have to stick together, eh ? LOL !!
>

>> Go to http://www.google.com. Click on Groups. Click on "advanced group
>> search." Enter "alt.activism.death-penalty" in the "Newsgroup" block.
>> Enter "dolly" in the "author"
>

>He asked for messages that I had written, FuckWit; not messages that your
>AOL account had 'archived' (sic).
>
>{ snip }
>
>> Happy
>stalking.....
>

>--
>Desmond Coughlan |desmond @ zeouane . org
>http://www.zeouane.org/
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
>__ __ _ __ ____________ ____ _
>\ \ / /_ _ _ __ ___ __ _| |__ __ _ \ \ / /__ / ___| | _ \/ |
> \ V / _` | '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ / _` | \ V / / /| |_ _____| |_) | |
> | | (_| | | | | | | (_| | | | | (_| | | | / /_| _|_____| _ <| |
> |_|\__,_|_| |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|\__,_| |_| /____|_| |_| \_\_|
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------- Headers --------------------
>
>Path:
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reader.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!un
i-berlin.de!e117.dhcp212-198-68.noos.FR!not-for-mail


>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...

>Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:13:39 +0000
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><s81h5v8livt57guv4...@4ax.com>
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Dolly Coughlan Jr

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Feb 23, 2003, 9:29:17 PM2/23/03
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In article <pl7oi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>ubject: Re: Dezis past posts...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:04:25 +0000
>
>le 23 Feb 2003 22:52:47 GMT, dans l'article
><20030223175247...@mb-fb.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>


>> >> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
>> >> may be).
>
>>> No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>>> 28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>>> I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>

>> True. But it is a minor inconvenience when compared with the historical
>> significance of retrieving the messages written by Dezi.
>>
>> So far Dezi is the only one on the NG who has refused to archive his
>> posts. One can only imagine why he is engaging in this coverup.
>

>Go and have a wank over this month's issue of _Guns 'n' Ammo_, Jigsaw. I
>decide where my posts get archived. No one else.


>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |desmond @ zeouane . org
>http://www.zeouane.org/
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
>__ __ _ __ ____________ ____ _
>\ \ / /_ _ _ __ ___ __ _| |__ __ _ \ \ / /__ / ___| | _ \/ |
> \ V / _` | '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ / _` | \ V / / /| |_ _____| |_) | |
> | | (_| | | | | | | (_| | | | | (_| | | | / /_| _|_____| _ <| |
> |_|\__,_|_| |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|\__,_| |_| /____|_| |_| \_\_|
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------- Headers --------------------
>
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reader.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.ne
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...

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JIGSAW1695

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:16:07 PM2/23/03
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Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...
From: Desmond Coughlan pasdespa...@zeouane.org
Date: 2/23/2003 8:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <pl7oi-...@zeouane.org>

le 23 Feb 2003 22:52:47 GMT, dans l'article
<20030223175247...@mb-fb.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com>
a dit ...

> >> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
> >> may be).

>> No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>> 28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>> I can well do without at that bandwidth.

> True. But it is a minor inconvenience when compared with the historical
> significance of retrieving the messages written by Dezi.
>
> So far Dezi is the only one on the NG who has refused to archive his
> posts. One can only imagine why he is engaging in this coverup.

Go and have a wank over this month's issue of _Guns 'n' Ammo_, Jigsaw. I
decide where my posts get archived. No one else.


Desmond Coughlan
===============================

Sorry kid, I dont read "Guns"n" Ammo".

And I hate to tell you this (LOL) but desmondcoughlanjr is archiving his posts
under his name and I seriously doubt if you can do anything about it.

A Planet Visitor

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:33:54 PM2/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:22:15 GMT, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
<jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> wrote:

>In article <20030223103522...@mb-fl.aol.com>,
>jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
>
>> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she may
>> be).
>
>No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>

A dial-up account at 28.8kbps!! They still HAVE those things? I thought
they went out with the acoustic coupler. :-)

Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.
And if dolly didn't, at least EVERYONE, including me, could RAGE at
dolly for still insuring desi's posts live in google, when it would no longer
be necessary for someone else to do it. There was, in fact, a large chunk
of desi's posts that NEVER did get archived. From the point of his
first turning his archive off, until dolly began posting them. As it is, regardless
of how ANYONE feels about dolly, I find it has served a definite purpose
for me. desi may deny all he wishes that it is not HIS posts that are
being archived, but everyone also sees that it is a pathetic denial that
the words aren't his. So when desi does deny them, it's rather even
more obvious that deception is the reason he doesn't archive his own
posts. In fact, I laughed my ass off at the pathetic reasoning that desi
once offered in respect to _his right_ to turn his archive off in a public
forum. Offering that his posts were the same as _copyright_ material,
and he could presume his words were PROTECTED under that principle.
If desi has the _right_ to turn his archive off, than ANYONE has the
_right_ to respond to his posts without adding one comment whatsoever,
simply to repeat his words into google. Of course.... IMHO.

PV

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Feb 24, 2003, 1:02:23 AM2/24/03
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In article <ni6j5v48i07c8a49h...@4ax.com>, A Planet
Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:22:15 GMT, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
> <jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> wrote:
>
> >In article <20030223103522...@mb-fl.aol.com>,
> >jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
> >
> >> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
> >> may
> >> be).
> >
> >No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
> >28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
> >I can well do without at that bandwidth.
> >
> A dial-up account at 28.8kbps!! They still HAVE those things? I thought
> they went out with the acoustic coupler. :-)

I am thinking about DSL but I'm not sure that I can justify it
considering the amount of time I spend online at home (negligible). The
dialup is free and gives me direct, unfettered access to resources at
work without recourse to a VPN client.

> Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
> that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.

That is undoubtedly true. I will only comment further by observing that
_I_ feel that people can feel free to use X-No-Archive if they so
desire. I have no objection to this and don't feel that anyone should
attempt to circumvent it, either. Using the flag, however,
automatically undermines that poster's claims, no matter who they happen
to be.

A Planet Visitor

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Feb 24, 2003, 1:50:36 AM2/24/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:26:53 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le 23 Feb 2003 03:15:57 GMT, dans l'article <20030222221557...@mb-mp.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...

>
>> Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>

>ROTFLMAO !!
>
>*stalker alert*
>
Be afraid, desi.... be very afraid.

PV

>--
>Ayatollah desi

Another choice comment from desi, that I will be reminding him of --

"I would rather see the extinction of the human race, than allow one innocent to
be put to death by the state." See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=87wvtkfeg2.fsf%40lievre.coughlan.fr

A Planet Visitor

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Feb 24, 2003, 2:29:32 AM2/24/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:13:39 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:32:27 GMT, dans l'article <s81h5v8livt57guv4...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>
>>>Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>

>> So very glad you asked.
>

>I bet you are. Obsessive stalkers have to stick together, eh ? LOL !!
>

>> Go to http://www.google.com. Click on Groups. Click on "advanced group
>> search." Enter "alt.activism.death-penalty" in the "Newsgroup" block.
>> Enter "dolly" in the "author"
>

>He asked for messages that I had written, FuckWit; not messages that your
>AOL account had 'archived' (sic).
>

Har de har... come on, desi... let's hear you DENY that those are
your words. Go on, demonstrate for everyone exactly the PURPOSE
why you do not archive your words. That of being able to DENY them.
Tell us how your words are _copyright protected_.

Why do I always feel as if I have to tie one of my brain lobes behind my
back, in order to give you a fighting chance?

>{ snip }
>
>> Happy hunting

>stalking.....

no... hunting, desi... do you have a reading problem as well?

A Planet Visitor

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:04:25 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le 23 Feb 2003 22:52:47 GMT, dans l'article <20030223175247...@mb-fb.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...

>
>> >> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
>> >> may be).
>
>>> No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>>> 28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>>> I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>

>> True. But it is a minor inconvenience when compared with the historical
>> significance of retrieving the messages written by Dezi.
>>
>> So far Dezi is the only one on the NG who has refused to archive his
>> posts. One can only imagine why he is engaging in this coverup.
>

>Go and have a wank over this month's issue of _Guns 'n' Ammo_, Jigsaw. I
>decide where my posts get archived. No one else.
>

don't cha' know, Jigsaw? -- desi's words are _copyright_. ROTFLMAO.
But it seems like Dolly is taking care of that task, quite nicely.

PV
>--
>Ayatollah desi |Superlunary and Most Exalted
> |Spiritual Leader of the Universal
> |Right to Life Church. (umm... get
> |away from me -- you filthy black
> |starving child in Africa) 'My church'
> |isn't for you.

http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html Am
I obsessed with fighting 'evil'? Damn... I'm 'Superman' when
it comes to fighting desi's 'forces of evil.' References to
a post which insightfully pronounced of desi -- "'Cancerous'
is almost a compliment when one views most of desi's
comments -- other forms spring more easily to mind -- it is
a parasitic diarrhea of the brain... it is crazy chick
disease transferred to our thinking process -- it is a swarm
of latrine flies settling on our ability to process
information --- it is maggots feasting on the bodies of
numberless victims of murder. It is madness. utter madness.
It is Desmond Coughlan." Every evil, vile thought that has
ever swept across this group from desi's pen, as Genghis
Kahn (or Attila the Hun, if you prefer) swept his broad
scythe of rape, death and destruction, in long, broad,
excruciating strokes across the face of humanity, stand as
stark images of his perverse character. And we stand witness
to that depravity.

Rev. Don Kool

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Herbie wrote:
> A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
>>Herbie wrote:
>>>jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

>>>>And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
>>>>may
>>>>be).
>>>
>>>No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>>>28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>>>I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>>>
>>
>>A dial-up account at 28.8kbps!! They still HAVE those things? I thought
>>they went out with the acoustic coupler. :-)
>
>
> I am thinking about DSL but I'm not sure that I can justify it

Perhaps if you studied up on UNIX systems, you could achieve a level of
understanding sufficient to secure an entry level supervised help desk
position. Then you would be able to afford a real Internet connection.

[...hand waving snipped...]

>>Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
>>that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.
>
>
> That is undoubtedly true. I will only comment further by observing that
> _I_ feel that people can feel free to use X-No-Archive if they so
> desire. I have no objection to this and don't feel that anyone should
> attempt to circumvent it, either. Using the flag, however,
> automatically undermines that poster's claims, no matter who they happen
> to be.

Very true.

David McDonald

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:29:32 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:13:39 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>wrote:

>>He asked for messages that I had written, FuckWit; not messages that your


>>AOL account had 'archived' (sic).
>>
>Har de har... come on, desi... let's hear you DENY that those are
>your words. Go on, demonstrate for everyone exactly the PURPOSE
>why you do not archive your words. That of being able to DENY them.
>Tell us how your words are _copyright protected_.
>
>Why do I always feel as if I have to tie one of my brain lobes behind my
>back, in order to give you a fighting chance?

Just one?

NLD
>

David McDonald

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:50:36 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:26:53 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>


>wrote:
>
>>le 23 Feb 2003 03:15:57 GMT, dans l'article <20030222221557...@mb-mp.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695 <jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>>
>>> Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>>
>>ROTFLMAO !!
>>
>>*stalker alert*
>>
>Be afraid, desi.... be very afraid.

Deswaldo is always afraid. Why do you think he rarely leaves his flat?

NLD

David McDonald

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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:39:55 -0500, "Rev. Don Kool"
<old...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Herbie wrote:
>> jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
>
>>>And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she may
>>>be).
>>
>>
>> No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>> 28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>> I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>
> Piker. LOL!!

Poor Herbie! Always the loser.

NLD

David McDonald

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:44:05 -0500, "Rev. Don Kool"
<old...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>Herbie wrote:
>> A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
>>>Herbie wrote:
>>>>jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
>
>>>>>And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
>>>>>may
>>>>>be).
>>>>
>>>>No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>>>>28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>>>>I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>A dial-up account at 28.8kbps!! They still HAVE those things? I thought
>>>they went out with the acoustic coupler. :-)
>>
>>
>> I am thinking about DSL but I'm not sure that I can justify it
>
> Perhaps if you studied up on UNIX systems, you could achieve a level of
>understanding sufficient to secure an entry level supervised help desk
>position. Then you would be able to afford a real Internet connection.
>
> [...hand waving snipped...]

How would Herbie learn? UNIX was never ported to a Commordore 64.

NLD

>
> Hope this helps,
> Don

A Planet Visitor

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In spite of all the abuse that has been heaped on Dolly (who actually
has never provided anything other than sourcing desi's post to google),
I'd have to agree. Simply searching for desi's racist slurs, I've realized
how many of them would have escaped detection... had it not been for
dolly insuring they remain as a testimony to desi's racism... every bit as
much as those millions of shoes remain as a testimony to the holocaust.

I've found dolly to be an invaluable resource so long as desi presumes
his words are (ROTFLMAO) _copyright_ here.

PV

>Jigsaw

A Planet Visitor

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Feb 24, 2003, 1:13:52 PM2/24/03
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On 23 Feb 2003 15:28:42 GMT, jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:

>>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...

>>From: A Planet Visitor abc...@zbqytr.ykq

>>Date: 2/23/2003 3:32 AM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <s81h5v8livt57guv4...@4ax.com>


>>
>>On 23 Feb 2003 03:15:57 GMT, jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone know how I can locate past messages that Dezi has written?
>>>

>>>Jigsaw
>>
>>So very glad you asked. Go to http://www.google.com. Click on Groups.


>>Click on
>>"advanced group search." Enter "alt.activism.death-penalty" in the
>>"Newsgroup"

>>block. Enter "dolly" in the "author" for more recent messages, OR "desmond"
>>in the "author" for messages he posted that he did not block archiving...
>>oh...so
>>long ago. Use the other blocks as indicated to search for words, phrases,
>>subjects
>>or dates. Click on "Google search."
>>
>>Happy hunting....
>>
>>
>>PV

>===============================
>
>Thanks, it worked just as you said it would.
>
>Reviewing some of the messages Dezi has posted reminded me of what an idiot he
>is.
>
>One of the most obvious faults is his inability to answer a question without an
>insult.
>

As I pointed out yesterday... desi confuses 'vacuous' with 'articulate.' Most
of his comments represent a vast wasteland of empty insults. Usually
accompanied by obscenities.

>It is probably a product of his feeling of inferiority as a child and
>subsequent failures as he "grew up".
>

As the boy said to his father, when bringing home a report card with dismal
grades -- "Should we blame it on parenting or environment?" In either case,
something went strongly amiss with the nurturing process in desi's childhood.

PV

>Jigsaw

David McDonald

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:41:10 +0000, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> wrote:

>le Mon, 24 Feb 2003 04:33:54 GMT, dans l'article <ni6j5v48i07c8a49h...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }


>
>> Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
>> that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.
>

>You do not 'believe' this, FW, you _know_ it, as you created the 'dolly'
>account, and thus if I removed the X-No-Archive flag from my posts, you
>would probably save a few dollars a month, as you could cancel the AOL
>account.
>
>That's not going to happen, FuckWit, as I and I alone, decide where my
>posts exist. You can certainly continue to post your obsessive 'archives',
>but if it comes to believing you, or believing me, I'm willing to bet that
>99% of the newsgroup, even those who disagree with my opinions, will
>believe me, rather than you. Anonymity is suspect, irrespective of your
>'right' to maintain it. I post under my real name; my real address is
>visible in the whois database. Even John Rennie, a poster often fiercely
>critical of me, has observed that my views are more credible than yours
>will ever be.
>
>I laugh at you, FW. I laugh at your obvious diminishing sanity. I laugh
>at your frantic claims not to be 'bothered' by me, when in fact it is
>obvious that I am responsible for your increasingly blatant rage, as
>displayed in this group. And your response ? To 'archive' my posts.
>..LM-F-AO !! If that's all you have, FW, then be my guest.
>
>Ha, ha, ha ...................
>
>{ snip a bunch of the most pretentious, dishonest, self-righteous crap that
> even FW has ever posted }

Poor old Deswaldo, drunk again. :-)

NLD

dirtdog

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Feb 24, 2003, 2:54:05 PM2/24/03
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:06:16 -0500, David McDonald
<David_S_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snipped>

> UNIX was never ported to a Commordore 64.

Evidently, nor did your ZX Spectrum come with a spell checker, NLD.

A Planet Visitor

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:02:23 GMT, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
<jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> wrote:

>In article <ni6j5v48i07c8a49h...@4ax.com>, A Planet
>Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:22:15 GMT, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
>> <jona...@zeouane.org.remove.this.it.is.bollocks> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <20030223103522...@mb-fl.aol.com>,
>> >jigsa...@aol.com (JIGSAW1695) wrote:
>> >
>> >> And we owe a debt of gratitude to Dollycoughlanjr (whoever he or she
>> >> may
>> >> be).
>> >
>> >No we don't, Jiggy. When I am at home, I use a dialup account at
>> >28.8kbps. The downloading of Dolly's headers is a minor irritation that
>> >I can well do without at that bandwidth.
>> >
>> A dial-up account at 28.8kbps!! They still HAVE those things? I thought
>> they went out with the acoustic coupler. :-)
>
>I am thinking about DSL but I'm not sure that I can justify it
>considering the amount of time I spend online at home (negligible). The
>dialup is free and gives me direct, unfettered access to resources at
>work without recourse to a VPN client.
>
>> Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
>> that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.
>
>That is undoubtedly true. I will only comment further by observing that
>_I_ feel that people can feel free to use X-No-Archive if they so
>desire.

Of course they are free to do so... otherwise it wouldn't be available. What
is not prohibited is allowed. Conversely, there is no prohibition to responding
to each and every message in an open forum, without even providing a
comment. I was staggered by desi's presumption that his words were
_protected_ by _copyright_. Let's get real here. There is no protection
against anything in Usenet. Although claiming that others have committed
crimes against them, without providing proof SHOULD certainly not be
permitted. Thus, I would say that desi has no _right_ to be offended by
someone insuring his posts are archived, since he is Usenet's greatest
offender.

> I have no objection to this and don't feel that anyone should
>attempt to circumvent it, either. Using the flag, however,
>automatically undermines that poster's claims, no matter who they happen
>to be.

It then comes down to the original poster finding it necessary to deny
having posted those first words. And in that case, he would then be showing
himself to be a liar, to those who regularly posts here, who remember those
posts. Although without them being archived they would not be able to provide
the exact words. I relish the fact that I can use the assets available through
dolly to provide those EXACT words. Frankly, the recent proofs I have
provided of desi's racist comments would not be possible without dolly. Thus,
I am certainly grateful for having access to those words. You will notice that
desi has not denied posting them. He simply tries to justify having posted them.
But IF they were not in dolly's archive, you can be sure that desi would simply
deny having even posted those words. He would then simply call ME a liar.
But he knows that trying to do so, other regulars here would know that HE
was the liar. No one here doubts that dolly does not provide EXACT quotes.
If dolly did not, desi would long ago, have pointed that out to discredit dolly
archiving desi's posts. That is why I am grateful that no comments are ever
made by dolly to the SUBSTANCE of desi's words, thus rather insuring the
purity of that archive. But one has simply to compare every word of desi in
their active newsreader, against the words of desi which show up as his in
dolly's archive in google, to see that it IS an actual archive of desi's posts.

You may believe it is _unfair_, but I cannot believe it is _fair_ to be able to
post something here, and 20 days later deny having posted it. The very
concept which communication embraces is that most eloquently written by
Horace -- "A word, once let out of the cage, cannot be whistled back again."
desi would hope to do so, here in this forum.

PV

dirtdog

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:14:36 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
wrote:

<snip>

> I was staggered by desi's presumption that his words were
>_protected_ by _copyright_.

Why were you 'staggered', FW?

(Just remember who you're talking to here. I should consider any
response you dare produce very carefully indeed)

<cue sound of FW scuttling under his rock shouting 'Mary-Pascale. That
onery dirt's on me again'>

<PV trying to justify _paying money_ each month for the sole purpose
of stalking Desmond, then trying to claim this doesn't make him
obsessed snipped in hysterics>

w00f

Rev. Don Kool

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That does present a dilemma for the boy.

Rev. Don Kool

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David McDonald wrote:
> Desi Coughlan <des...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote...

Seems that PV is really getting to Desi. LOL!!

Dolly Coughlan Jr

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In article <j1rpi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...

>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:41:08 +0000
>
>le 24 Feb 2003 04:16:07 GMT, dans l'article
><20030223231607...@mb-fv.aol.com>, JIGSAW1695
><jigsa...@aol.com> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }


>
>>> Go and have a wank over this month's issue of _Guns 'n' Ammo_, Jigsaw.
>>> I decide where my posts get archived. No one else.
>

>> Sorry kid, I dont read "Guns"n" Ammo".
>

>Jigsaw, no one even suggested that you were able to 'read' it. I was
>referring to your hours of 'solitary pleasure' whilst looking at the
>photographs.


>
>> And I hate to tell you this (LOL) but desmondcoughlanjr is archiving his
>> posts under his name and I seriously doubt if you can do anything about
>> it.
>

>Be careful what you wish for, Jigsaw ..............................


>
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |desmond @ zeouane . org
>http://www.zeouane.org/
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
>__ __ _ __ ____________ ____ _
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> \ V / _` | '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ / _` | \ V / / /| |_ _____| |_) | |
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>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
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In article <m1rpi-...@zeouane.org>, Desmond Coughlan
<pasdespa...@zeouane.org> writes:

>Subject: Re: Dezis past posts...
>From: Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>

>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:41:10 +0000
>
>le Mon, 24 Feb 2003 04:33:54 GMT, dans l'article


><ni6j5v48i07c8a49h...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor

><abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>
>{ snip }
>
>> Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
>> that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.
>
>You do not 'believe' this, FW, you _know_ it, as you created the 'dolly'
>account, and thus if I removed the X-No-Archive flag from my posts, you
>would probably save a few dollars a month, as you could cancel the AOL
>account.
>
>That's not going to happen, FuckWit, as I and I alone, decide where my
>posts exist. You can certainly continue to post your obsessive 'archives',
>but if it comes to believing you, or believing me, I'm willing to bet that
>99% of the newsgroup, even those who disagree with my opinions, will
>believe me, rather than you. Anonymity is suspect, irrespective of your
>'right' to maintain it. I post under my real name; my real address is
>visible in the whois database. Even John Rennie, a poster often fiercely
>critical of me, has observed that my views are more credible than yours
>will ever be.
>
>I laugh at you, FW. I laugh at your obvious diminishing sanity. I laugh
>at your frantic claims not to be 'bothered' by me, when in fact it is
>obvious that I am responsible for your increasingly blatant rage, as
>displayed in this group. And your response ? To 'archive' my posts.
>..LM-F-AO !! If that's all you have, FW, then be my guest.
>
>Ha, ha, ha ...................
>
>{ snip a bunch of the most pretentious, dishonest, self-righteous crap that
> even FW has ever posted }
>

>--
>Desmond Coughlan |desmond @ zeouane . org
>http://www.zeouane.org/
>http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/obsessive_litany.html
>__ __ _ __ ____________ ____ _
>\ \ / /_ _ _ __ ___ __ _| |__ __ _ \ \ / /__ / ___| | _ \/ |
> \ V / _` | '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ / _` | \ V / / /| |_ _____| |_) | |
> | | (_| | | | | | | (_| | | | | (_| | | | / /_| _|_____| _ <| |
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:41:10 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le Mon, 24 Feb 2003 04:33:54 GMT, dans l'article <ni6j5v48i07c8a49h...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }
>


>> Seriously, Mr. D., I know we will not agree here, but I really believe
>> that if desi began archiving his posts, dolly would probably disappear.
>

>You do not 'believe' this, FW, you _know_ it, as you created the 'dolly'
>account, and thus if I removed the X-No-Archive flag from my posts, you
>would probably save a few dollars a month, as you could cancel the AOL
>account.
>

LOL... remember I already HAVE, and still maintain, another active account
through Earthlink, which allocates dynamic addresses, that could not be
proven as associated to me. Nonetheless... I would "LOVE" (sic) to
announce that I'm dolly. I feel it one of the great tragedies in my presence
in this group, that I cannot take CREDIT for being dolly, since I most
assuredly WOULD. But in your _articulations_ of empty drooling you
have obviously given that credit to another. Dommage! What a shame
that I can't take credit for cloning her. But I can assume that in _desi
secret code_, FW, fw, FuckWit, Fuckwit, fuckwit, and fucKwiT, all are
either the SAME poster, or are different posters among that group of
"others who sought to force" you "off the group." For that particular
paranoid post of yours. see-
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn8clfa5.1cl.desmond%40lievre.voute.net

>That's not going to happen, FuckWit, as I and I alone, decide where my
>posts exist. You can certainly continue to post your obsessive 'archives',
>but if it comes to believing you, or believing me, I'm willing to bet that
>99% of the newsgroup, even those who disagree with my opinions, will
>believe me, rather than you.

Given that it can be shown that your posts never appear in google, there
is the certainty that you purposely make an effort to insure they do not. Then --
given that it can be shown that all your posts which still DO show up in active
newsreaders can be compared against those posts of dolly which show up in
google, and can be verified as being EXACTLY the same words, there is
PROOF 'beyond a reasonable doubt' that those words in google from dolly
represent YOUR words, when your posts time out of active newsreaders.
It then becomes your word against that 'beyond a reasonable doubt' proof.
Obviously, if someone is so blind to DENY they are your words, their opinion
is worthless, as far as I'm concerned. And should you DENY that they were
your words, the point would then be if you could CONVINCE the reasonable
long-term posters here that you were telling the truth. And ALL long-term
posters have already identified that dolly is simply a bot, with the only purpose
to post your words to google. Further, as another reasonable abolitionist
remarked here long ago, the veracity of your posts are ALWAYS in question,
when he said
"I *never* lie on the newsgroups, Desmond - a distinction that you most
definitely do not share." See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8a9hju%24suv%241%40lure.pipex.net

> Anonymity is suspect, irrespective of your 'right' to maintain it.

Rubbish... anonymity is simply a desire to not identify yourself. There
is nothing _suspect_ about it... since it is a straight forwarded admission
of such a desire. In any case, I post anonymously... those unhappy with that
can certainly ignore me totally. Or they can find something within my
words that they either agree with or disagree with. But I do not HIDE MY
WORDS. I do not say one thing one day... and then deny saying it the
next, as those who would HIDE THEIR WORDS. I defend my words,
rather than hide behind the sham of them disappearing from examination
in very short order.

"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority... It thus
exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First
Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from
retaliation -- and their ideas from suppression -- at the hand of
an intolerant society."

--- U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens

"the weight of the historical evidence," ...shows "that the Framers
understood the First Amendment to protect an author's right" to
express his thoughts on issues in an anonymous expression.

----U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas

Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense,' was first signed simply
as "An Englishman." Writers of the Federalist Papers all
wrote under anonymous names. James Madison, Alexander
Hamilton and John Jay wrote under the anonymous name
of 'Publius.' And they were answered by counter-arguments
from those such as Richard Henry Lee, 'A Federal Farmer,'
and Samuel Adams, ' Candidus.'

Boswell reported of Johnson's words --- "that what a man has no
right to ask, you may refuse to communicate."

Samuel Clemens becomes Mark Twain and Aurore Dupin becomes
George Sand. Charles Dickens used it. And J.S. Mill lauded
it. I believe you will find that he and de Tocqueville both feared 'the
tyranny of public opinion,' and the need to shield yourself from
the harm that might come from opinions that are different from
your own.

"Don't underestimate the common man. People are intelligent
enough to evaluate the source of an anonymous writing. They
can see it is anonymous. They know it is anonymous. They
can evaluate its anonymity along with its message, as long as
they are permitted, as they must be, to read that message.
And then, once they have done so, it is for them to decide what
is 'responsible,' what is valuable, and what is truth."

-New York v. Duryea, 76 Misc. 2d 948 (1974)

There is also a constitutional right to be anonymous on a public street. In
Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352 (1983), the Supreme Court held that
the government could not require people to provide "credible and reliable"
identification, even if they are loitering and wandering on the streets.

In fact, privacy laws in most democratic nations exist which
protect the personal privacy of everyone, unless there is a
physical danger to others. I do not believe you can suppose
that my words represent such a danger. While presuming I
must reveal such information could represent a physical danger
to me or my family, regardless of all the hype that 'it can't happen.'
Clearly, YOU have 'claimed' it happened to YOU. Thus, the
forces that seem to demand I no longer post anonymously,
have stated the existence of such a danger.

Also see
http://lists.insecure.org/lists/politech/2001/Jul/0046.html
A ruling from the New Jersey appeals court protecting that right.
The ruling stated 'the well-established First Amendment right
to speak anonymously,' unless there was evidence of harm, or
actual malice.

Anonymity has always been recognized as extremely effective
in promoting freedom of expression. It gives people an outlet
for their opinions, even controversial ones. There are many
long-standing precedents for anonymity. The truth is that you
and others have recognized I am a rather volatile and confrontational
poster. And represent dissent to abolition. For that reason alone,
you would attack my anonymity. But it is a charade to presume
my WORDS cannot be even EXAMINED, because I post
anonymously. In fact, that is the view of tyrants everywhere.

> I post under my real name; my real address is
>visible in the whois database. Even John Rennie, a poster often fiercely
>critical of me, has observed that my views are more credible than yours
>will ever be.
>

ROTFLMAO -- John Rennie has found you DETESTABLE. On a
great number of occasions. St. George identified the problems with your
style of posting, long before you took to hiding your words... and it had
nothing to do with the fact you post your name (which only demonstrates
you lack the capacity to be embarrassed). He wrote --

"If you wish to rebut me by justifying your conclusion in terms of pure logic (i.e.
without relying on subjective opinion as any part of your case) then I look
forward to reading it. Until then, you are succeeding only in making the
abolitionist side look stupid."

See that? You make the abolitionist cause LOOK STUPID. And you do so
because you cannot support ANY of your conclusions using _pure logic_.

>I laugh at you, FW. I laugh at your obvious diminishing sanity. I laugh
>at your frantic claims not to be 'bothered' by me, when in fact it is
>obvious that I am responsible for your increasingly blatant rage, as
>displayed in this group. And your response ? To 'archive' my posts.
>..LM-F-AO !! If that's all you have, FW, then be my guest.
>
>Ha, ha, ha ...................
>

ROTFLMAO... It appears you have descended into dementia. Have
I so upset you, desi? Has the fact I've proven you are a racist, and you
cannot even hide behind your posts not being archived, caused you
to lose your grip on reality? I can say quite honestly that there was a time
when I made a ceaseless effort not to ridicule, not to bewail, not to scorn
your comments, but to understand them, and what base emotions drive
those comments. And try to deal with them in the methodical manner that
most comments deserve. That time has long past. You are an object
of scorn... of ridicule... of racism run rampant ... of the oft-displayed
ignorance of man. You are a worthless piece of trash... a bigot... a
carrier of the worst malady that can possibly afflict this group... a cancerous
sore ... the bubonic plague... Arachnoiditis ... Carticobasal degeneration...
hydrophobia...Dandy-Walker syndrome... you are the worst possible
human affliction we can imagine... visited upon THIS GROUP. You
should LEAVE... and do so IMMEDIATELY. This group is not for
_your kind_.



>{ snip a bunch of the most pretentious, dishonest, self-righteous crap that
> even FW has ever posted }
>

TRANSLATION -- -- I will continue to visit the most destructive human
behavior possible on "my newsgroup" --

David McDonald

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Don,
Deswaldo probably checks under his bed at night to make sure PV isn't
there just as he used to do for you. We both know how delusional
Deswaldo has become. Remember, he is still afraid to go to sleep
without his nite light on.

A Planet Visitor

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:22:39 +0000, dirtdog <dirtdog...@fruffrant.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:14:36 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I was staggered by desi's presumption that his words were
>>_protected_ by _copyright_.
>
>Why were you 'staggered', FW?
>
>(Just remember who you're talking to here. I should consider any
>response you dare produce very carefully indeed)
>

Oh, yeah... I forgot...you're the Village idiot. Certainly that required
my _dumbing-down_ my use of the word "staggered.' I should have
said "surprised," since you have finally learned how to spell that
word... and what it means. "Staggered" was a bit too much for
your "Classical education."

<Louise typical histrionics clipped>

PV

>w00f

Rev. Don Kool

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David McDonald wrote:
> "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>David McDonald wrote:
>>>Desi Coughlan <des...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>>>>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote...

[...snip...]

>>>>I laugh at you, FW. I laugh at your obvious diminishing sanity. I laugh
>>>>at your frantic claims not to be 'bothered' by me, when in fact it is
>>>>obvious that I am responsible for your increasingly blatant rage, as
>>>>displayed in this group. And your response ? To 'archive' my posts.
>>>>..LM-F-AO !! If that's all you have, FW, then be my guest.
>>>>
>>>>Ha, ha, ha ...................
>>>>
>>>>{ snip a bunch of the most pretentious, dishonest, self-righteous crap that
>>>>even FW has ever posted }

>>>Poor old Deswaldo, drunk again. :-)

>> Seems that PV is really getting to Desi. LOL!!

> Don,
> Deswaldo probably checks under his bed at night to make sure PV isn't
> there just as he used to do for you. We both know how delusional
> Deswaldo has become. Remember, he is still afraid to go to sleep
> without his nite light on.

When Desi started on this newsgroup a couple of years ago, everyone
could tell that he wasn't exactly the brightest bulb but his rapid
descent into insanity has been interesting to watch. It seems that all
the boy is capable of at this point is posting complete gibberish
(ROTFLOL!!, Bwwaaaahhh!!, *snort*, LOL!!, etc.), an off-topic URL from a
dubious source or forwarding other people's postings from off-topic
newsgroups to "alt.activism.death-penalty". I should have taken more
time with the boy when I taught him how to use "sic" as he is really
making a fool of himself with it now. Perhaps one of his few remaining
relatives will get him a copy of Strunk & White for his birthday. Of
course he would have to read and understand it for it to help so that's
probably asking too much. He does remain mildly amusing however.

A Planet Visitor

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Feb 26, 2003, 3:35:47 AM2/26/03
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:47:41 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:50:37 GMT, dans l'article <1o7m5vka59pekmafn...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>
>>>> I was staggered by desi's presumption that his words were
>>>>_protected_ by _copyright_.
>
>>>Why were you 'staggered', FW?
>>>
>>>(Just remember who you're talking to here. I should consider any response
>>>you dare produce very carefully indeed)
>
>> Oh, yeah... I forgot...you're the Village idiot. Certainly that required
>> my _dumbing-down_ my use of the word "staggered.' I should have said
>> "surprised," since you have finally learned how to spell that word... and
>> what it means. "Staggered" was a bit too much for your "Classical
>> education."
>

>Translation: FW realised that if he had insisted on the word 'copyright',
>he was about to get some more scar tissue on his already smoking 'ass'
>(sic), so he pretended that you were referring to his use of the word
>'staggered'.
>
I've never claimed any of my words are "copyright," sport. I leave that
to egotistical maniacs such as yourself. I well understand that it is necessary
to _dumb-down_ my comments to dirtbag... and in the particular case
of my using a word beyond his understanding of its meaning, due to the
shortcomings of his "classical education," I recognize that I should have
used a simpler word.

>Still, as he thinks that O.J. Simpson was 'convicted [sic] of murder in a
>civil court' ...
>
> url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl237779726d&dq=&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=C4%2579.335449%24XH.7441899%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
>
This was my comment in that particular thread --

"Of course he WAS found guilty in a civil court. And that post
was in respect to his dishonoring that civil judgment, as Louise
herself did by fleeing back to the U.K. See
http://www.courttv.com/trials/woodward/070998.html
You might find the word 'murderer' distasteful, but he was found
civilly liable for both deaths, and those deaths were not
accidental. I have probably called Louise a 'murderer' as
well, but the fact is she was only convicted of 'manslaughter.'"

And that comment has only ONE flaw... the use of "guilty" rather
than "liable." The words "convicted" and "murder" do not exist
in my comment.

>... and that one can be prosecuted for libel ...
>
> url:http://groups.google.fr/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=WRGB9.301346%24S8.6144624%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&as_scoring=d&hl=fr
>
>... why not go for a hat-trick, FW, and respond to dirt's question ? LOL
>!!
Nonetheless... I always argued that Judge Zobel had the power to overturn
a guilty verdict, while you argued endlessly that he could not... and then had
to humbly apologize (although you pathetically denied it was an apology),
for being so stupid. Your words --

"Based on my original reading of Rule 25[b][2], I stated that Judge Zobel could not
have overturned the guilty verdict, and that the only option open to him, was to
reduce the verdict of second degree murder, to a lesser charge, namely that of
manslaughter. Upon further investigation, however, it would appear that he was, in
fact, authorised to both reduce the verdict, and (if necessary) quash it completely.
An e-mail that I received last night, from the Massachusetts Bar Association, would
appear to confirm this view. Unless new information comes to light, I thus confirm
that, _as far as I am able to ascertain_, PV is right." See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020830212952.10684.00000094%

And then you compounded your ignorance by confusing a defense appeal petition
with a ruling from the Supreme Court... arguing that the appeal petition could MAKE
law.
>
>FuckWit ... the tame hamster of news:alt.activism.death-penalty ...
>
desi... the resident racist of AADP.

dirtdog

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On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:50:37 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:22:39 +0000, dirtdog <dirtdog...@fruffrant.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:14:36 GMT, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>>wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> I was staggered by desi's presumption that his words were
>>>_protected_ by _copyright_.
>>
>>Why were you 'staggered', FW?
>>
>>(Just remember who you're talking to here. I should consider any
>>response you dare produce very carefully indeed)
>>
>Oh, yeah... I forgot...you're the Village idiot. Certainly that required
>my _dumbing-down_ my use of the word "staggered.' I should have
>said "surprised," since you have finally learned how to spell that
>word... and what it means. "Staggered" was a bit too much for
>your "Classical education."

OK, FW, why were you 'surprised' by desi's [sic] presumption?

(Just remember who you're talking to here. I should consider any
response you dare produce very carefully indeed)

<cue sounds of FW running behind his minger wife's skirt>

w00f


A Planet Visitor

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On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 02:48:25 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:35:47 GMT, dans l'article <76uo5vc6up1q7oi7d...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...

>
>>>>>> I was staggered by desi's presumption that his words were
>>>>>>_protected_ by _copyright_.
>
>>>>>Why were you 'staggered', FW?
>>>>>
>>>>>(Just remember who you're talking to here. I should consider any
>>>>>response you dare produce very carefully indeed)
>
>>>> Oh, yeah... I forgot...you're the Village idiot. Certainly that
>>>> required my _dumbing-down_ my use of the word "staggered.' I should
>>>> have said "surprised," since you have finally learned how to spell that
>>>> word... and what it means. "Staggered" was a bit too much for your
>>>> "Classical education."
>
>>>Translation: FW realised that if he had insisted on the word 'copyright',
>>>he was about to get some more scar tissue on his already smoking 'ass'
>>>(sic), so he pretended that you were referring to his use of the word
>>>'staggered'.
>
>> I've never claimed any of my words are "copyright," sport.
>

>Nor has anyone said that you have, FuckWit.

Ah... but you have.

<rest of dribble clipped>

>--
>Ayatollah desi

Words of wisdom from another reasonable abolitionist to you on another day --
"GODAMMIT DESMOND, YOU ARE SUCH AN ARSEHOLE SOMETIMES!"
See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8a3hnf%24dvp%241%40lure.pipex.net
ROTFLMAO.

A Planet Visitor

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On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 02:48:27 +0000, Desmond Coughlan <pasdespa...@zeouane.org>
wrote:

>le Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:35:47 GMT, dans l'article <76uo5vc6up1q7oi7d...@4ax.com>, A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a dit ...
>
>{ snip }


>
>>>Still, as he thinks that O.J. Simpson was 'convicted [sic] of murder in a
>>>civil court' ...
>>>
>>> url:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl237779726d&dq=&hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=C4%2579.335449%24XH.7441899%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
>
>> This was my comment in that particular thread --
>>
>> "Of course he WAS found guilty in a civil court. And that post was in
>> respect to his dishonoring that civil judgment, as Louise herself did by
>> fleeing back to the U.K. See
>> http://www.courttv.com/trials/woodward/070998.html You might find the
>> word 'murderer' distasteful, but he was found civilly liable for both
>> deaths, and those deaths were not accidental. I have probably called
>> Louise a 'murderer' as well, but the fact is she was only convicted of
>> 'manslaughter.'"
>>
>> And that comment has only ONE flaw... the use of "guilty" rather than
>> "liable." The words "convicted" and "murder" do not exist in my comment.
>

>Ho, ho ... how weak. 'convicted' _means_ 'found guilty', FW. They're
>synonyms of each other, just like 'spastic' is a synonym for 'A Planet
>Visitor'.
>
When you presume to quote me... you should maintain a level of accuracy,
if you are to be believable. You cannot translate "guilty" into "convicted [sic] of
murder."

>LOL ... squirm, squirm ...
>
You really need to squirm, sport. Since you always have this bad habit of
placing words in quotes, especially racist slurs, and presume you can somehow
avoid the fact that they are YOUR WORDS.

That's one of the big reasons that so many abolitionists have found you to be
such as asshole. For example, one such comment from an abolitionist --

"you are succeeding only in making the abolitionist side look stupid."

url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8hnlev%24r20%241%40lure.pipex.net

>{ snip some more of FW trying to distract attention }
>
Actually, I attack every argument you put forth... hardly ever clipping, even when
your comments are patently machiavellian, such as this one. Unless it is obvious
that you are off your meds, and engaging in dispensing more obscene, malicious
banal insults.

PV

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