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Descent from Knights of the Most Noble Order of the Garter

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Leda E. Behseresht

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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My g-grandmother, Margaret Tappan (Lowther) Thomas, was a member of several
heriditary societies, including the one for decendants of the Most Noble
Order of the Garter (unfortunately the name escapes me at the moment -- I'm
at work).

I have recently been given copies of a lot of her papers, including
documentation for this membership (no membership application - yet). Most
of the work was done for her by a professional genealogist sometime between
1920 and 1955. Some of the sources are cited, but a lot looks questionable.

I have transcribed the information and I'm interested in hearing of sources
that I can use to document and/or correct these lines (meaning though them
out!).

Margaret Tappan Thomas descent from Knights of the Most Noble Order of the
Garter.

First Line
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1. Thomas de Holland, K.G., Earl of Kent, m. Joan Plantagenet
2. Elizabeth Holand m. Oliver Carminow
3. Roger Carminow m. Catherine Shirley
4. John Carminow m. Ann Maryett
5. Walter Carminow m. Alice Tynton
6. William Carminow m. Margaret Kelly
7. Walter Carminow m. Jane Resprin
8. John Carminow m. Phillipa Trenwith
9. Nicholas Carminow m. Catherine Wolverton
10. Phillipa Carminow m. Hugh Boscawen
11. Mary Boscawen m. Peter Coffin
12. Nicholas Coffin m.
13. Peter Coffin m. Joanna, widow Kember
14. Tristram Coffin m. Dionis Stevens
15. Tristram Coffin m. Judith Greenleaf
16. Mary Coffin m. Joseph Little
17. Judith Little m. Cutting Moody
18. Mary Moody m. David Marsh
19. Elizabeth Marsh m. Rev. Benjamin Tappan
20. Hon. Benjamin Tappan m. Sarah Holmes
21. Judge Benjamin Tappan m. Nancy Wright
22. Dr. Benjamin Tappan m. 3rd Nancy Lowther
23. Margaret Lowther Tappan m. Edwin Llewellyn Thomas

(NOTE: In his books I-II, p232, Wurts does not give THOMAS De HOLLAND a
daughter ELIZABETH, he only gives Holand a daughter Joan who m. the Duke of
Brittany and Maude, wife of Hugh de Courtenay. He sent Mrs. Thomas the
Coffin line through Elizabeth - daughter of Thomas de Holand. MHH.)

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Second Line
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1. John de Nevil, K.G. m. Maude Percy
2. Ralph de Nevil, K.G. m. Joan Beaufort
3. George de Nevil m. Elizabeth Beauchamp
4. Henry de Nevil m. Joane de Bourchier
5. Richard de Nevill m. Anne Stafford
6. Susan Nevill m. Richard Norton
7. Clare Norton m. Richard Goodrich
8. Margaret Goodrich m. Francis Bayldon
9. Richard Belding - original emigrant
10. John Belding (Belden) m. Lydia Standish
11. Joseph Belden m. Mary Meakins (or Meankins)
12. Mary Belden m. Joseph Boardman
13. Sarah Boardman m. Capt. Crafts Wright
14. Capt. John Wright m. Martha Robbins
15. Nancy Wright m. Judge Benjamin Tappan
16. Dr. Benjamin Tappan m. 3rd Nancy Lowther
17. Margaret Lowther Tappan m. Edwin Llewellyn Thomas

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Third Line
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1. King Edward III, Founder of the Order of the Garter, m. Philippa of
Hainault
2. Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester, Earl of Buckingham, K.G., m.
Eleanor de Bohun, Lady of the Order of the Garter
3. Anne Plantagenet, of Woodstock, m 3rd William Bourchier, Earl of Eu in
Normandy.
4. John Bourchier, K.G. m. Margery Berners (& became Lord Berners)
5. Joan Bourchier m. Henry de Nevill
6. Richard de Nevill m. Anne Stafford
7. Susan Nevill m. Richard Norton
8. Clare Norton m. Richard Goodrick
9. Margaret Goodrich m. Francis Bayldon (Belydon, Belden &c)
10. Richard Belding (Belden), original emigrant.
11. John Belden m. Lydia Standish
12. Joseph Belden m. Mary Meakins (Meankins)
13. Mary Belden m. Joseph Boardman
14. Sarah Boardman m. Capt. Crafts Wright
15. Capt. John Wright m. Martha Robbins
16. Nancy Wright m. Judge Benjamin Tappan
17. Dr. Benjamin Tappan m. 3rd Nancy Lowther
18. Margaret Lowther Tappan m. Edwin Llewellyn Thomas

Margaret Tappan Thomas claims descent from another son of the Founder, as
follows:

1. Edward III, Founder of the Order of the Garter, m. Phillippa of
Hainault & Holland
2. John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, K.G., King of Castile & Leon, m
3rd Katherine Reolt of Hainault
3. Joane Beaufort m. 2nd Ralph de Nevill, K.G.
4. George de Nevill m. Elizabeth Beauchamp

(For descent in full see the NEVIL, BEAUCHAMP, BOURCHIER & STAFFORD LINES -
all carrying descent from Knights of the Garter.


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End of transcription.

I look forward to you're kind responses...

Leda E. Behseresht
mailto:le...@erols.com


Reedpcgen

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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The ancetsry of Tristram Coffin has been questioned, but I don't know if it is
certainly false. The ancetsry of Richard Baildon/Belding is, however,
certainly false (unfortunately). The son of Sir Francis was not the immigrant,
as he died in England. Details of the proof will be published in a future
issue of The American Genealogist, I suspect some time in 1999.

pcr

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