Tony1er <ton...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> I was chilling with my gilr last night and we started talking about hip
hop and
> what she likes and dislikes. let me first say that she does not like most
rap
> and mostly listens to jazz, funk and shit like portishead (no disrespect
cause
> they are dope). anyway, it dawns on me, for the first time in my life,
why most
> girls will never get deep into rap (there are exceptions). girls do not
like
> overly agressive music. you will never hear a girl give freddie foxxx
props.
> you will never hear a girl say how much she likes that new MOP album. to
> agressive.I was playing my girls some beats I made and she loved the
meloncholy
> ones but as soon as I started with the fat hip hop tracks, she wasn't
having
> it. even the beats were too aggressive. and I'm not basing this all on
this one
> girl. every girl I've ever made a mix tape for was the same. they want
groups
> like pharcyde, tribe, de la,freestyle fellowship,the coup but put some
co-flow
> on it....that tape is in the never listen to bin.
I made two tapes for one of my friends who wants to learn more about hip
hop. She really liked "Preschool Break Mix" when I played it in her car and
she wanted to borrow it.....she was like "This is cool, what is this,
techno? Hip Hop?"
I put some Tribe, Siah and Yeshua, "Travelin' Man," some Rakim tracks from
Follow the Leader (I think she'll like "Eric B Never Scared"), some Co Flow
tracks (Collude/Intrude, The Fire...., End to End), "Luchini," "TROY," some
Roots tracks, some Digable Planets (like Rebirth of Slick), and I don't
remember the rest. I also let her borrow 3 ft. High and Rising (if she
doesn't return it I will kill her). I am determined to make a hip hop head
out of her yet.
> with battle rapping comes a certain agressiveness, therefore girls don't
like
> battle rhyming.therefore girls don't like 75% of all good hip hop. of
course
> this is a generalization but, guys, am I for the most part right?
What about the girls who like No Limit, DMX and Busta Rhymes? They're never
aggressive?
I would say so.
But once a "hard" or "roughneck" artist makes a popular r&b flavored track,
then (huge generalization here) a lot of girls start feeling him. examples?
Method Man, Busta, Tupac, Biggie, Big Pun.
But, recently, a lot of girls seem to be bucking that trend. Maybe it's
because radio stations play more 'commercial hardcore' (Nore, Big Pun, DMX) but
it's just weird to me when I see a shorty jamming to _Get At Me Dog_ at the
club.
peace,
Neil
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-A.G.
Tony1er schrieb in Nachricht
>with battle rapping comes a certain agressiveness, therefore girls don't
like
>battle rhyming.therefore girls don't like 75% of all good hip hop. of
course
>this is a generalization but, guys, am I for the most part right? and
are you kidding?
every (black) girl over 14 when Rakim dropped his first album feels him...
you ever see a club when they drop "eric b is president"?
Peace,
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The DJ can throw on "The Symphony" at a Common Sense show and everybody
gets buck buck buck but if the DJ at your local club drops it they'll
scream, "FUCK THAT SHIT PLAY SOME MASTER P FOOL!!!"
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Spirit68 wrote:
> you ever see a club when they drop "eric b is president"?
>
> Peace,
>
> Spirit
> Spread Love/Amphibians
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> The Amphibians' debut single "Lettuce (Entertain You)" b/w "Journey" is
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>more power to them. the only thing is, in most cases,girls will not hunt down
>good hip hop. guys will. how many ladie sdo you know that fiend for new
>groundbreaking hip hop? I don't know any. and I live in a big city where most
>girls I know like hip hop in one way or another.
>later tony
There was this cute blonde at the local recordshop who came in asking
"did the new King Tee arrive yet?"
huge turn-on.
peAce,
Joe "oeh, me legs gone" Piler.
Man, I wish you guys read girlie magazines. I mean like Glamour and
Mademoiselle. There was a nice quote in one of my mags from a woman who
is on Vibe's staff about how she feels about hip-hop. She likened hiphop
to an errant boyfriend. Exactly how I feel. I have a serious love-hate
relationship with it. I love it to death cause when it's good...it's
really good.
But when it's bad...
Anyway...
Do women fiend for new groundbreaking hiphop? Not many, but I think not
many men do either. RMHH may give one a distorted view. Most men I know who
listen and know hiphop don't actively search out new acts.
Being a fiend for hiphop does not necessarily mean actively seeking out
new acts who are dropping it. I fiend for the music, but not as actively
as I have in the past. I now fiend for people's interactions with hiphop
music: what it does to them, how it changes their views, how and if they
feel they belong in the culture.
When I have convos with my hiphop colleagues, this is what we discuss.
Sure, a peripheral conversation might touch on a Mad Skillz or Mountain
Brothers, we're always hype to have our hands on some fly tracks, but it's
the movement of the culture *beyond* those tracks that entices me the most.
: There was this cute blonde at the local recordshop who came in asking
: "did the new King Tee arrive yet?"
: huge turn-on.
Until she yelled out to her big Black boyfriend waiting in the car "Yeah,
they got it, honey!"
Jokes.
Angieee (not blonde, but I do have fun)
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Yeah, and you didn't read my post. I was referring to girls 14 and up when
"Eric B is President" first dropped. They will all hit the dance floor when
Rakim comes on and they all currently in their mid-20s or above, which leads to
your next statement...
>Unless it's a hip-hop audience or it's
>a majority urban crowd with an average age of 25,
Wow...what a surprise, those were actually the people I was talking about in my
post.
Peace,
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Yeah. I see that. May be a money thing. That's why I'm always at the mixtape
stand. You get to sample. If I hear something good, I'll find out who the kid
is and maybe check out more of his / her stuff.
Have you ever checked out female hip-hop writers? When I do talk to women about
hiphop, they seem to delve more into the political aspects. They also know what
they are talking about. Maybe it's my environment, I'm surrounded by hiphop
lovers. If I was living in a suburb or something, maybe I wouldn't know any
hiphop females.
>When I have convos with my hiphop colleagues, this is what we discuss.
>Sure, a peripheral conversation might touch on a Mad Skillz or Mountain
>Brothers, we're always hype to have our hands on some fly tracks, but it's
>the movement of the culture *beyond* those tracks that entices me the most.
Has any music had more influence? I'll admit, I'm more ignorant than I'd like
to be on other musical genres. Hiphop permeates into every sector. Did anyone
see Fox Files the night they profiled the wealthy white suburban kids who said
they identified more with black hiphop culture than their own culture? The
upset parents? Funny, but crazy interesting.
>: There was this cute blonde at the local recordshop who came in asking
>: "did the new King Tee arrive yet?"
>
>: huge turn-on.
>
>Until she yelled out to her big Black boyfriend waiting in the car "Yeah,
>they got it, honey!"
>
>Jokes.
>
>Angieee (not blonde, but I do have fun)
Oh God. =-)
OlSkool.
Peace, Flash
AlanPage wrote:
> Wow...what a surprise, those were actually the people I was talking about in my
> post.
>
> Peace,
>
> Spirit
> Spread Love/Amphibians
>
> The Amphibians' debut single "Lettuce (Entertain You)" b/w "Journey" will be
> available August 9th, on vinyl ($5) and cassettes ($3), add $2 for
> shipping/handling. E-mail me for more details...
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Where are you from? Who is fronting? If you are claiming that they are
fronting, what are you doing to educate them? All this online sh*t is good and
all, but most of the people who front probably aren't reading this, naw?
>There's no educational structure to bring up the next
>generation of hip-hop with the history of the past days
>and consequently we get all bent out of shape when all
>they want to listen to is No Limit and Puffy yet they
>call Rakim and BDP wack.
Yo, then what are you doing 'bout it, bout it?
Who is the "we" that is getting all bent out of shape? You're overgeneralizing
with this. Maybe the youngbucks you know dis KRS, but if you grew up in NYC,
the kids here (at least the young highschool age black ones I know) know all
about early BDP, etc. It's like their history.
Who is the "we" and what are you doing about it?
>If we taught them about it
>from the jump so they could appreciate it, then the shorties
>could listen to both No Limit and BDP and appreciate each
>for their own unique merits.
So, when do your classes start?
Olskool.
Danyel Smith. Isn't she the editor-in-chief?
Nikol Hopkins
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Expect more lessons from OHHLA and Mtu...@aol.com coming next week.
We gonna SCHOOL y'all knuckleheads, especially those of y'all who
claim "olskool" yet don't know the first DAMN thing about Melle Mel,
Grandmaster Caz, and Kool Herc. Old school is NOT ninety-two and it's
NOT eighty-eight.
Peace, Flash
Olskool74 wrote:
> So, when do your classes start?
>
> Olskool.
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this is jsut on the lates one which has a side left to do, gonna try and
sneak some Siah and Yesh and some OK on :)
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I think the response depends on how much exposure the city has had to hip-hop
in general. If hip-hop has a minor or newer following in the city, I don't
think the classics will be recognized. Even here in Vancouver, I'm surprised
sometimes. A DJ will put on some pre-90's joints and some heads will know
the joints. But they're always a bigger response for Puff and Master P.
Sick.
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As for hip-hop females (I've never liked that term - "yo did you
check the females?" uh, you mean the women? It's an adjective not a noun)
I have met lots of them. These are people are actively involved in the
culture and have a background in it (i.e. not the hip white girls, God
love em). But they tend to be into the classics or artsy shit, not battle
rhymes or gangsterism.
Although it seems like punk rock white girls can appreciate
hardcore rap more than others. I know a lot of girls like that with
Wu-Tang albums.
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> how many ladie sdo you know that fiend for new
>groundbreaking hip hop? I don't know any. and I live in a big city where most
>girls I know like hip hop in one way or another.
>later tony
Hi! I'd like to introduce myself...
I'm about to bum some money offa my pops (tellin him it's "field trip money")
so that I can drive around over the weekend to get Black Star's LP (if I can
find it in Mickeytown, FL). I'm under the assumption that Rassassination is
going to be good, so if I can dig through the sofa cushions and scrounge for
some change, then perhaps that will make my buying list as well. Company Flow
gets a lot of play on my tape deck in my car, much more than Acey, in fact.
Not to say that I am strictly aggressive rap. Nah. I check De La about as
much as I check Wu-Tang. I have no real preference on what tone of Hip-Hop I
listen to, it's all on what mood I'm in.
Peace
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