Famous roleplayers
AJB...@yahoo.com
Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
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How about Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman? :)
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Chay0s
Even more famous than Margaret and Tracy which most people wouldn't know, try
these two on for size, which everyone knows.
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. They played. I found it out in Details, the one
with Ben Affleck on the cover.
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Brett A. Paul
Chay0s wrote:
>
> Even more famous than Margaret and Tracy which most people wouldn't know, try
> these two on for size, which everyone knows.
>
> Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. They played. I found it out in Details, the one
> with Ben Affleck on the cover.
Who's Ben Affleck?
Robert Baldwin
the count wrote:
>
> How about Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman? :)
>
He siad *famous*. ;-)
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Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
: Who's Ben Affleck?
Matt Damon's friend.
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verkuilen john v
There's a picture of 3 d6's and 2 d20's on the liner to Bob Mould's most
recent, self-titled solo album. Not conclusive proof by any stretch,
but it's evidence of some sort.
Jay
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Sarah Koto
In article <6n92id$va4$1...@uwm.edu>, John Mosey <mo...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
+ Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
+ : Who's Ben Affleck?
+
+ Matt Damon's friend.
Who's Matt Damon?
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Jason Mulligan
AJB...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
Well Ray Feist and his group roleplayed (with a modified to death version
of D&D). Thats how Midkemia started.
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devil's own satanic herd!"
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Dave Brohman
AJB...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
I think that Robert Aspirin and Gordon R. Dickson were RPGers, but I am
not sure. I do know they are, or were, both SCAdians though. And Anne
MacCaffery (the one who wrote those dreadful Dragon books) was also an
RPGer if memory serves.
One I know for sure is Mike Meyers, 'Austin Powers' himself.
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verkuilen john v (ja...@ux6.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> There's a picture of 3 d6's and 2 d20's on the liner to Bob Mould's most
> recent, self-titled solo album. Not conclusive proof by any stretch,
> but it's evidence of some sort.
The Torotno based Dance/Hip Hop band "The Dream Warriors" are RPGers, comic
and SF/Fantasy fans. Their first album has numerous references to Marvel
comics, Star Trek, Star Wars and RPGs. They even have a song called "12
Sided Dice" all about D&D. Very VERY cool album.
Dave Brohman
Sarah Koto (raiko82nospa...@nospamathotmail.nospamatthiscom) wrote:
> In article <6n92id$va4$1...@uwm.edu>, John Mosey <mo...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
> + Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
> + : Who's Ben Affleck?
> +
> + Matt Damon's friend.
> Who's Matt Damon?
Me (to GM): "I lean over and lift up the rock. What is under it?"
GM: "Two people. They seem to have been there for a VERY long time..."
They were the guys who wrote and starred in "Good Will Hunting". They
won an academy award for it. They were one of the biggest stories in the
entertainment world this past year. BTW, there is also a film about the
Titanic that is quite popular in case you hadn't heard... ;)
Jeremy Belton
Dave Brohman wrote in message <6n9hbb$fmt$5...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>...
>AJB...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett
(the
>> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially
like
>> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm
asking
>> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
>
> I think that Robert Aspirin and Gordon R. Dickson were RPGers, but I am
> not sure. I do know they are, or were, both SCAdians though. And Anne
> MacCaffery (the one who wrote those dreadful Dragon books) was also an
> RPGer if memory serves.
>
> One I know for sure is Mike Meyers, 'Austin Powers' himself.
--------
I'm not entirely sure, but it seems likely that the band Marcy Playground
plays, as they have a song on their self-titled album called "Cloak of
Elvenkind" which could concievably be interpreted to be about role playing.
Jeremy
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Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> might have said:
>Chay0s wrote:
>>
>> Even more famous than Margaret and Tracy which most people wouldn't know, try
>> these two on for size, which everyone knows.
>>
>> Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. They played. I found it out in Details, the one
>> with Ben Affleck on the cover.
>Who's Ben Affleck?
Holden, in "Chasing Amy", the third in the "Jay & Silent Bob" series of
movies by Kevin Smith..
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Dave Brohman <dbro...@chat.carleton.ca> might have said:
> I think that Robert Aspirin and Gordon R. Dickson were RPGers, but I am
> not sure. I do know they are, or were, both SCAdians though. And Anne
> MacCaffery (the one who wrote those dreadful Dragon books) was also an
> RPGer if memory serves.
Anne? Not as far as I've ever heard. I should write Diane Duane and ask
her, she'd know. Hell, I should just ask Anne herself. I doubt it, tho.
Robert, maybe, but Gordon's works don't seem to have that flavor, not
even the fantasy ones...
Dave Brohman
Jeremy Belton (gi...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
> I'm not entirely sure, but it seems likely that the band Marcy Playground
> plays, as they have a song on their self-titled album called "Cloak of
> Elvenkind" which could concievably be interpreted to be about role playing.
Or Lord of the Rings. For LotR references, you can't best Led Zepplin.
Dave Brohman
Jeremy Belton (gi...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
> I'm not entirely sure, but it seems likely that the band Marcy Playground
> plays, as they have a song on their self-titled album called "Cloak of
> Elvenkind" which could concievably be interpreted to be about role playing.
"I smell orcs and cantrips..." ;)
Ian R Malcomson
>Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
>Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
>to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
>because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
I know Ronnie James Dio definitely *doesn't*.
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Ian R Malcomson
> Or Lord of the Rings. For LotR references, you can't best Led Zepplin.
You can - J R R Tolkien, for example....
Staffan Johansson
AJB...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
Raymond Feist, author of the Riftwar saga was definitely a roleplayer.
The books even contain dedications to "the Friday Nighters." Check
www.midkemia.com for more info.
Somewhere, I've also heard that the guys in Metallica are RPGers, though
that is just an unfounded rumor (at least on my part).
--
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Uncle Figgy
In article <6n8hj1$gnv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
AJB...@yahoo.com writes:
> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
The WildCards series of novels got started by a group of RolePlayers.
Now I'm not sure of _all_ of the people involved, but the GM was George
R.R. Martin...
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Peter Sayer
AJB...@yahoo.com wrote in article <6n8hj1$gnv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett
(the
> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially
like
> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm
asking
> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
>
In case people dont know... Weezer sang
"Ive got my Dungeon Masters Guide
Ive got my 12 sided die."
Not famous, but I dont care.
<snip>
Stéphane Tanguay
AJB...@yahoo.com a écrit dans le message
<6n8hj1$gnv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett
(the
>Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially
like
>to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
>because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
Jacques Villeneuve, last year world champion in F1 race, does play D&D (and
others RPG)
Stéphane Tanguay
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
>Chay0s wrote:
>>
>> Even more famous than Margaret and Tracy which most people wouldn't know, try
>> these two on for size, which everyone knows.
>>
>> Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. They played. I found it out in Details, the one
>> with Ben Affleck on the cover.
>
>Who's Ben Affleck?
>
>- Brett
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Actor/writer who wrote and starred in Good Will Hunting with that
retard, Matt Damon. He's also appeared in Mallrats, Chasing Amy, and
Phantoms.
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Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:44:24 GMT,
raiko82nospa...@nospamathotmail.nospamatthiscom (Sarah Koto)
wrote:
>In article <6n92id$va4$1...@uwm.edu>, John Mosey <mo...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
>+ Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
>+ : Who's Ben Affleck?
>+
>+ Matt Damon's friend.
>
>Who's Matt Damon?
A retard that alot of 14 year old girls like... as well as the Spice
Girls, Leo DiCraprio, and Hanson.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On 30 Jun 1998 02:14:16 GMT, dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman)
wrote:
>Sarah Koto (raiko82nospa...@nospamathotmail.nospamatthiscom) wrote:
>> In article <6n92id$va4$1...@uwm.edu>, John Mosey <mo...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
>> + Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
>> + : Who's Ben Affleck?
>> +
>> + Matt Damon's friend.
>
>> Who's Matt Damon?
>
> Me (to GM): "I lean over and lift up the rock. What is under it?"
> GM: "Two people. They seem to have been there for a VERY long time..."
>
> They were the guys who wrote and starred in "Good Will Hunting". They
> won an academy award for it. They were one of the biggest stories in the
> entertainment world this past year. BTW, there is also a film about the
> Titanic that is quite popular in case you hadn't heard... ;)
I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On 30 Jun 1998 05:33:34 GMT, dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman)
wrote:
>Jeremy Belton (gi...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
Bwah hah hah! Brilliant!
I tend to wonder about Kevin Smith... I know he's a comic book geek...
could he be an RPGer, too?
Ian R Malcomson
>
>Jacques Villeneuve, last year world champion in F1 race
....this year, serious pedestrian....
Arawyn
AJB...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
Hmmm, seen the video clip for Interglactic Planetary by the Beastie
Boys?
I think I see a Mind Flayer (okay with crab claws).
A Wayne Goss, former premier of Queensland,Au is a roleplayer.
The sighting was posted in aus.games.roleplay a while back (found it on
dejanews).
regards,
Scotty
Brett A. Paul
Dave Brohman wrote:
>
> They were the guys who wrote and starred in "Good Will Hunting". They
> won an academy award for it. They were one of the biggest stories in the
> entertainment world this past year. BTW, there is also a film about the
> Titanic that is quite popular in case you hadn't heard... ;)
The titanic what? I mean, I'm sure it's huge, but what is it?
j/k
Ok, now that you say who they are (my memory leaks names rapidly), I
know who you are talking about. Sorry, couldn't care less about academy
awards and all that rot.
I'll just take my ignorance with me on down to the "weapon proficiency"
thread that everyone is ignoring...
Dave Brohman
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) (power...@erols.com) wrote:
> On 30 Jun 1998 05:33:34 GMT, dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman)
> wrote:
> >Jeremy Belton (gi...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not entirely sure, but it seems likely that the band Marcy Playground
> >> plays, as they have a song on their self-titled album called "Cloak of
> >> Elvenkind" which could concievably be interpreted to be about role playing.
> >
> > "I smell orcs and cantrips..." ;)
> Bwah hah hah! Brilliant!
> I tend to wonder about Kevin Smith... I know he's a comic book geek...
> could he be an RPGer, too?
That's not Kevin Smith as in "Ares" on Hercules and Xena is it? Could
it possibly be the same guy?
Andrew S Goldstein
dwcope{spaminated}@aol{formyprotection}.com (Uncle Figgy) writes:
>In article <6n8hj1$gnv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>AJB...@yahoo.com writes:
>> Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay? I know Terry Pratchett (the
>> Discworld author) played D&D but I don't know any others. I'd especially like
>> to find celebrities whose roleplaying activities can be proven. I'm asking
>> because I might use this info to advertise my RPG club at school.
>The WildCards series of novels got started by a group of RolePlayers.
>Now I'm not sure of _all_ of the people involved, but the GM was George
>R.R. Martin...
>Uncle Figgy
Since we're talking comic-book stuff here...
Kurt Busiek and Scott McCloud used to play CHAMPIONS together. I'm not
sure, but I think Alex Ross may have, too. None of them "celebrities"
really, but I suppose they're famous in comic-book circles...
Andrew
Allister Huggins
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Ian R Malcomson wrote:
> >
> >Jacques Villeneuve, last year world champion in F1 race
>
> ....this year, serious pedestrian....
>
>
Yeah well, this yr everyone is a pedestrian to the Mclaren Team.
What the hell do they have under their hoods?
Allister H.
CloudVader
I'm pretty sure Chris Carter or one of the other head writers on the X-Files
role-plays, or at least knows a thing or two about role-playing. In one
flashback episode, Langly of the Lone Gunmen is sitting at a table playing D&D
with some other guys when Byers and Frohike knock on the door.
It's a safe bet, therefore, that one of the staff on the show has at least
witnessed a D&D game before. :)
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>> >Jacques Villeneuve, last year world champion in F1 race
>>
>> ....this year, serious pedestrian....
>>
> Yeah well, this yr everyone is a pedestrian to the Mclaren Team.
>What the hell do they have under their hoods?
Something that we've waited a *long* time for. Well, okay, about 3
years. THE ILMORE-MERCADES!!
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John Mosey
Sarah Koto <raiko82nospa...@nospamathotmail.nospamatthiscom> wrote:
: In article <6n92id$va4$1...@uwm.edu>, John Mosey <mo...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
: + Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
: + : Who's Ben Affleck?
: +
: + Matt Damon's friend.
: Who's Matt Damon?
Ben Affleck's friend
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Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On 30 Jun 1998 14:38:59 GMT, dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman)
wrote:
>Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) (power...@erols.com) wrote:
>> On 30 Jun 1998 05:33:34 GMT, dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman)
>> wrote:
>
>> >Jeremy Belton (gi...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not entirely sure, but it seems likely that the band Marcy Playground
>> >> plays, as they have a song on their self-titled album called "Cloak of
>> >> Elvenkind" which could concievably be interpreted to be about role playing.
>> >
>> > "I smell orcs and cantrips..." ;)
>
>> Bwah hah hah! Brilliant!
>
>> I tend to wonder about Kevin Smith... I know he's a comic book geek...
>> could he be an RPGer, too?
>
> That's not Kevin Smith as in "Ares" on Hercules and Xena is it? Could
> it possibly be the same guy?
Kevin Smith the director/writer, who created the "New Jersey Trilogy",
Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy.
I don't watch Xena or Hercules... they make me barf.
The Astonishing Yazoo
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>
>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
-Dave
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Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:43 GMT, wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com (The
Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
>(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>
>>
>>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>
>Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
>had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
>
>-Dave
Ditto. I HATE Leo DiCraprio... Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying
Brit, and James Cameron is too full of himself. The ONLY reason
Titanic did so good is because 60% of its audience was 12-16 year old
girls who went back to see it 20 or 30 times to cry over Leo getting
drowned, because they had so much free time. I guess avoiding all
three meals a day to turn into waifs frees up alot of time to listen
to the Spice Girls and see Titanic.
I will NEVER watch the movie. I'm not a big fan of period pieces
(modern-day ones, at least... I like stuff about ancient history)
and I never found the story of Titanic to be particularly interesting.
Driftin J
>Ditto. I HATE Leo DiCraprio... Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying
>Brit, and James Cameron is too full of himself. The ONLY reason
>Titanic did so good is because 60% of its audience was 12-16 year old
>girls who went back to see it 20 or 30 times to cry over Leo getting
>drowned, because they had so much free time. I guess avoiding all
>three meals a day to turn into waifs frees up alot of time to listen
>to the Spice Girls and see Titanic.
>
>I will NEVER watch the movie. I'm not a big fan of period pieces
>(modern-day ones, at least... I like stuff about ancient history)
>and I never found the story of Titanic to be particularly interesting.
>
I have to insert a comment here regarding Titanic. I agree with you that
teenyboppers and Romance Novel Addicts (tm) were largely responsible for
Titanic's huge box office returns. However, the historical accuracy of the
movie is absolutely incredible. I have seen numerous documentaries and read
one book on the Titanic and am thoroughly impressed with the film makers'
accuracy.
What makes the movie horrible is the formulaic, predictable love story....
romantic poor guy meets beautiful rich girl who is engaged to jerk rich guy
(tm).
Here is what I think happened:
The writer's original vision was to make a movie that accurately reflected the
events and people that surrounded the sinking of the Titanic. The producers
sat down with James Cameron and the script and decided that no one would go see
a movie about a bunch of people dying so they decided to insert a love story
(Everyone loves a love story!) and cast a heart throb in the leading roll (How
about that di Caprio kid? The girls seem to love him!)
So, they then set about inserting a tried and true love story into the script
...ala instant cheese.
Unfortunate but apparently it worked...
-Jack
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On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:43 GMT, wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com (The
Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
>(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>
>>
>>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>
>Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
>had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
Gee, I felt compelled to see Titanic since I consider it's director /
screenwriter to be the best in the business from the standpoint of
what *I* like.
However, I do not consider Titanic to be Cameron's best work. Not by a
long shot. Peraps "artistically" speaking it is, but that is not the
only thing that appeals to me.
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> Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying Brit,
Chunky?!? What, do you expect to be able to count her ribs through her
blouse or something? What's your ideal, Kate Moss or something? And what
the hell's wrong with her being British?
Lord Stevil the Parakeet Shaman
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Distribution:
The Astonishing Yazoo (wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com) wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
> (Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
> >I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
> Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
> that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
> had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
Why? This just smacks of pretense and arrogance.
"I refuse to see 'Titanic'!"
"Why?"
"Becasue a lot of people really like it and say it is good."
"Oh, I see..."
I have never really understood this type of attitude. I always give
everything a chance before I decide whether I like it or not (even "Barney"
and the "Power Rangers"). This condemnation of popular fim, music, TV,
etc. is the worst kind of pseudo-intellectual power-trip. It is the
"Everyone is stupid except me" attitude given form.
If you take offense, I offer my apologies in advance. This is not a
flame, just my rather opinionated opinion (as it were).
towo...@concentric.net
The Astonishing Yazoo <wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com> might have said:
>>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
of all time list...
--
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Sailor Moon V at http://www.cris.com/~towonder/fanfic.shtml
Dave Brohman
Driftin J (drif...@aol.com) wrote:
> I have to insert a comment here regarding Titanic. I agree with you that
> teenyboppers and Romance Novel Addicts (tm) were largely responsible for
> Titanic's huge box office returns. However, the historical accuracy of the
> movie is absolutely incredible. I have seen numerous documentaries and read
> one book on the Titanic and am thoroughly impressed with the film makers'
> accuracy.
> What makes the movie horrible is the formulaic, predictable love story....
> romantic poor guy meets beautiful rich girl who is engaged to jerk rich guy
> (tm).
I agree. I still don't understand why the movie doesn't start until an
hour into the movie. :)
CloudVader
>Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
>of all time list...
Hate to break it to you, but it already has beaten Star Wars. :(
This pisses me off to no end, as well, and I also refuse to see Titanic on that
principle, and on the principle that I despise Leonardo DiCrapio. It's a shame
that James Cameron went from making Aliens, T2, and True Lies to second-rate
romance movies.
verkuilen john v
dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman) writes:
>:> <6nb8qt$snd$1...@news.bctel.net>
>Distribution:
>The Astonishing Yazoo (wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com) wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
>> (Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>> >I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>> Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>> that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
>> had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
> Why? This just smacks of pretense and arrogance.
> "I refuse to see 'Titanic'!"
> "Why?"
> "Becasue a lot of people really like it and say it is good."
> "Oh, I see..."
> I have never really understood this type of attitude. I always give
> everything a chance before I decide whether I like it or not (even "Barney"
> and the "Power Rangers"). This condemnation of popular fim, music, TV,
> etc. is the worst kind of pseudo-intellectual power-trip. It is the
> "Everyone is stupid except me" attitude given form.
Oh, this is one of my intellectual vices right there along with a tendency
to overuse metaphors. But I didn't see Titanic as I really just wasn't that
interested, bottom line. I think Leonardo di Craprio is a crummy actor and
wasn't interested in the story. And the Titanic was built by a corporation
owned by branch of my family which was enough to suck my mom in. Ah well.
Jay
--
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not be able to hear or see beyond that point." --Robert Fripp
Gebhard Blucher
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote:
[snip]
> I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
Same here. Can't be giving it even more of an edge over "Star Wars" now
can I?
GB
Robert Baldwin
>
>
> I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
> of all time list...
>
Hey, that's another good reason. Personally, I'm just not happy about
that twit Cameron ripping of Harlan Ellison, so I'm not inclined to see
his latest "original" production.
--
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Biomenace
>>Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
>>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
>>of all time list...
>
>
>This pisses me off to no end, as well, and I also refuse to see Titanic on that
>principle, and on the principle that I despise Leonardo DiCrapio. It's a shame
>that James Cameron went from making Aliens, T2, and True Lies to second-rate
>romance movies.
Its only beaten SW if you compare actual $$ made. If you compare it
taking into account that SW was on the top ten using 1970 dollars,
whereas titanic is using 1998 dollars, SW still comes out ahead.
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Dave Brohman
verkuilen john v (ja...@ux6.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> Oh, this is one of my intellectual vices right there along with a tendency
> to overuse metaphors. But I didn't see Titanic as I really just wasn't that
> interested, bottom line. I think Leonardo di Craprio is a crummy actor and
> wasn't interested in the story. And the Titanic was built by a corporation
> owned by branch of my family which was enough to suck my mom in. Ah well.
Now THAT is a valid reason. Not interested in the story, don't like the
actors. But just saying "general principals" is a cop out.
debruin
Chunky?!?!?!?! I'm sorry, you must have just gotten your weekly dose of
Boris Vallejo imbedded into your brain. For those of us that stop role
playing for a few hours a day and don't have problems differing fantasy
from reality thought the girl could use a few cheeseburgers. (As well as
most of the anorexic actresses in Hollywood.)
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) <power...@erols.com> wrote in article
<359933e4...@news.erols.com>...
> On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:43 GMT, wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com (The
> Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
> >(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
> >
> >>
> >>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
> >
> >Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
> >that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
> >had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
> >
> >-Dave
>
> Ditto. I HATE Leo DiCraprio... Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying
> Brit, and James Cameron is too full of himself. The ONLY reason
> Titanic did so good is because 60% of its audience was 12-16 year old
> girls who went back to see it 20 or 30 times to cry over Leo getting
> drowned, because they had so much free time. I guess avoiding all
> three meals a day to turn into waifs frees up alot of time to listen
> to the Spice Girls and see Titanic.
>
> I will NEVER watch the movie. I'm not a big fan of period pieces
> (modern-day ones, at least... I like stuff about ancient history)
> and I never found the story of Titanic to be particularly interesting.
>
towo...@concentric.net
CloudVader <cloud...@aol.com> might have said:
>>Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
>>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
>>of all time list...
>Hate to break it to you, but it already has beaten Star Wars. :(
Actually, no, it hasn't, at least last I heard (which I'll admit, was 2
months ago). When adjusted for inflation, Star Wars had raked in
750million, and was in 2nd place (After Gone With the Wind at 1.2
billion). Titanic was still at under 400million last I heard.
Staffan Johansson
Robert Baldwin wrote:
> Hey, that's another good reason. Personally, I'm just not happy about
> that twit Cameron ripping of Harlan Ellison, so I'm not inclined to see
> his latest "original" production.
I'm not all that familiar with Harlan Ellison's work, so maybe you could
enlighten me what Cameron did that constituted ripping off Ellison?
--
Staffan Johansson (d9...@efd.lth.se)
Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.
Staffan Johansson
Arawyn wrote:
> Hmmm, seen the video clip for Interglactic Planetary by the Beastie
> Boys?
> I think I see a Mind Flayer (okay with crab claws).
Mind Flayers are supposed to be about 6' tall - not the size of
skyscrapers. The size of the being in question makes me think more
about...
... Cthulhu!
Then again, Cthulhu wouldn't get his ass kicked by some stupid giant
robot, and being kicked into some power cables. After all, should
Cthulhu be nuked, he'd come back 10 minutes later, angry and
radioactive!
Sean Emmott
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote in message
<359933e4...@news.erols.com>...
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:43 GMT, wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com (The
>Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
>
>
>Ditto. I HATE Leo DiCraprio... Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying
>Brit,
And I thought I was the only one...
> and James Cameron is too full of himself. The ONLY reason
>Titanic did so good is because 60% of its audience was 12-16 year old
>girls who went back to see it 20 or 30 times to cry over Leo getting
>drowned,
Leo *drowns*!!??! My world is shattered.
Cheers,
Sean.
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Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:43 GMT, wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com (The
>Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
>>(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>>
>>>
>>>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>>
>>Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>>that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
>>had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
>
>Gee, I felt compelled to see Titanic since I consider it's director /
>screenwriter to be the best in the business from the standpoint of
>what *I* like.
Well, everyone thought that about me... I loved almost all of
Cameron's other movies, and I'm an aspiring screenwriter, working
mostly with sci fi and fantasy. But Titanic is neither sci fi nor
fantasy. It's a romance that happens to have spectacular set design
and special effects... not to mention Cameron is not a very good
dialogue writer, and I HATE that no-talent bitch Celine Dion and her
retarded song from the movie.
I heard some descriptions of some of the more stupid scenes in Titanic
from a movie critic friend who saw it.... the best example was when
the ship was going down, and Winslet looks at DiCaprio and says "This
is where we first met!"
My critic friend, normally VERY reserved in a theatre, burst out
laughing at that point.
>
>However, I do not consider Titanic to be Cameron's best work. Not by a
>long shot. Peraps "artistically" speaking it is, but that is not the
>only thing that appeals to me.
Visually it probably is one of the best movies ever made. As far as
the story, dialogue, and characters go, it bites the big one.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
> Why? This just smacks of pretense and arrogance.
That would be because I AM arrogant. But see my previous post to see
why Titanic was lame. (writing, dialogue, etc.)
Not to mention the only reason it was so popular was because 75% of
the people going to see it were 15 year old girls who went to see it
20 times to cry over DiCaprio.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
>
>> Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying Brit,
>
>Chunky?!? What, do you expect to be able to count her ribs through her
>blouse or something? What's your ideal, Kate Moss or something? And what
>the hell's wrong with her being British?
Apparently you didn't see her wide ass on the cover of Rolling Stone.
And, no, I hate Kate Moss. My ideal woman? Nancy Wilson from Heart...
Tracy Bonham... Uma Thurman.... Madusa Micelli (the pro
wrestler/kickboxer) THAT'S what I like.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On 30 Jun 1998 16:04:34 EDT, towo...@concentric.net wrote:
>The Astonishing Yazoo <wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com> might have said:
>>>I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>
>>Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>
>
>Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
>of all time list...
>
>--
>Jason
>http://www.cris.com/~towonder/
>Sailor Moon V at http://www.cris.com/~towonder/fanfic.shtml
I will personally go see the new Star Wars movie 40 times if it means
knocking Titanic off from being the highest grossing of all time.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
>Robert Baldwin wrote:
>> Hey, that's another good reason. Personally, I'm just not happy about
>> that twit Cameron ripping of Harlan Ellison, so I'm not inclined to see
>> his latest "original" production.
>
>I'm not all that familiar with Harlan Ellison's work, so maybe you could
>enlighten me what Cameron did that constituted ripping off Ellison?
>--
> Staffan Johansson (d9...@efd.lth.se)
>Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.
Terminator is said to be an Ellison ripoff... usually in
alt.cult-movies,a thread like this pops up every few months. I've
never read Ellison, so I have no idea of how true that may be.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On 1 Jul 1998 04:04:02 GMT, "debruin" <gh...@i-cafe.net> wrote:
>Chunky?!?!?!?! I'm sorry, you must have just gotten your weekly dose of
>Boris Vallejo imbedded into your brain. For those of us that stop role
>playing for a few hours a day and don't have problems differing fantasy
>from reality thought the girl could use a few cheeseburgers. (As well as
>most of the anorexic actresses in Hollywood.)
Not a Vallejo fan, sorry to disappoint.
And in my circle of friends, which includes a movie critic, several
people thought she was a little heavy. Once again, I site the Rolling
Stone cover she appeared on.
I'm sure the next comment coming is someone calling me a big faggot
because I have the audacity to not be attracted to Winslet, and so be
it. I know what I like, and her fat ass isn't it.
Stevil the Parakeet Shaman
> Why? This just smacks of pretense and arrogance.
>
> "I refuse to see 'Titanic'!"
> "Why?"
> "Becasue a lot of people really like it and say it is good."
> "Oh, I see..."
>
> I have never really understood this type of attitude. I always give
> everything a chance before I decide whether I like it or not (even "Barney"
> and the "Power Rangers"). This condemnation of popular fim, music, TV,
> etc. is the worst kind of pseudo-intellectual power-trip. It is the
> "Everyone is stupid except me" attitude given form.
*Long round of applause.* Thank you, Dave, I couldn't have said it better
myself. My dislike of Titanic has nothing to do with its popularity.
This anti-everything counterculture crap, which in itself is a pop culture
phenomenon, gets annoying sometimes...
Stevil the Parakeet Shaman
> Chunky?!?!?!?! I'm sorry, you must have just gotten your weekly dose of
> Boris Vallejo imbedded into your brain. For those of us that stop role
> playing for a few hours a day and don't have problems differing fantasy
> from reality thought the girl could use a few cheeseburgers. (As well as
> most of the anorexic actresses in Hollywood.)
This is probably one of those guys that liked to make fun of overweight
girls in high school. A woman actually has some meat on her, and refuses
to puke up her food to acheive the Kate Moss flagpole figure, and she gets
insulted...
> > Kate Winslet is a chunky, annoying Brit
Jacob Boucher
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) (power...@erols.com) wrote:
: And in my circle of friends, which includes a movie critic, several
: people thought she was a little heavy. Once again, I site the Rolling
: Stone cover she appeared on.
: I'm sure the next comment coming is someone calling me a big faggot
: because I have the audacity to not be attracted to Winslet, and so be
: it. I know what I like, and her fat ass isn't it.
Wow, this thread dissolved into a lot of useless bullshit really fast...
But to jump right in...
Lets all say it together now..."Opinions Vary!"
Personally, I like my women with some curve, and I think she looked pretty
fine. I just don't understand guys who have a precise list of specifications
for their "dream girl" and any woman who does not fall into the right category
is "chunky" or some other derrogatory remark. That shit comes back to haunt
you when you are 36 and still living with your parents, holding your weekly
D&D sessions in your basement bedroom and downloading porn at 2am, drooling
over Jenny MacArthy or Carmen Elektra or the latest fancy lady to catch your
eye.
They're women, guys! Beautiful, mysterious, and wonderful. Some are
annoying, some are repulsive, but a "fat ass" does not a repulsive girl make.
With all that, is this thread going to get back to Geekdom any time soon?
Jacob Boucher.
Sarah Koto
In article <6ndft5$dan$1...@news1.bu.edu>, jbu...@bu.edu (Jacob Boucher) wrote:
+ Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) (power...@erols.com) wrote:
+ : And in my circle of friends, which includes a movie critic, several
+ : people thought she was a little heavy. Once again, I site the Rolling
+ : Stone cover she appeared on.
+ : I'm sure the next comment coming is someone calling me a big faggot
+ : because I have the audacity to not be attracted to Winslet, and so be
+ : it. I know what I like, and her fat ass isn't it.
Um? Um? "Big faggot?" What an insult. :-|
(Grow up.)
(By the way, not all of us on this group are het. Consider that before you
let your mouth run needlessly and make yourself look like a fool. You big
faggot.)
+ Personally, I like my women with some curve, and I think she looked pretty
+ fine. I just don't understand guys who have a precise list of specifications
+ for their "dream girl" and any woman who does not fall into the right category
+ is "chunky" or some other derrogatory remark. That shit comes back to haunt
+ you when you are 36 and still living with your parents, holding your weekly
+ D&D sessions in your basement bedroom and downloading porn at 2am, drooling
+ over Jenny MacArthy or Carmen Elektra or the latest fancy lady to catch your
+ eye.
Agreed. Women come in all shapes and sizes. The only thing I really do find
repulsive /is/ the stuck up, silicone-enhanced blonde who obsesses about her
body and thinks she's perfect.
Personally, I think Jenny MacArthy is a dumb ass. Have you seen how she acts
in public?
+ They're women, guys! Beautiful, mysterious, and wonderful. Some are
+ annoying, some are repulsive, but a "fat ass" does not a repulsive girl make.
Always fun to have something to grab . . . ;)
+ With all that, is this thread going to get back to Geekdom any time soon?
Gary Gygax. Ed Greenwood.
There we go ;)
-------------------------
Sarah Koto
Hiryuu Dragon
<UDIC>
Zankoku na tenshi no youni
Shounen yo shinwa ni nare
--------------------------
jonesy
Ian R Malcomson wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know any famous people who roleplay?
<snip>
> I know Ronnie James Dio definitely *doesn't*.
>
I always wondered about Queensryche. They're first EP seemed to smack of
D&D/Fantasy references.
-jonesy
Robert Baldwin
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote:
>
> On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:27:28 +0200, Staffan Johansson
> <d9...@efd.lth.se> wrote:
>
> >Robert Baldwin wrote:
> >> Hey, that's another good reason. Personally, I'm just not happy about
> >> that twit Cameron ripping of Harlan Ellison, so I'm not inclined to see
> >> his latest "original" production.
> >
> >I'm not all that familiar with Harlan Ellison's work, so maybe you could
> >enlighten me what Cameron did that constituted ripping off Ellison?
> >--
> > Staffan Johansson (d9...@efd.lth.se)
> >Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.
>
> Terminator is said to be an Ellison ripoff... usually in
> alt.cult-movies,a thread like this pops up every few months. I've
> never read Ellison, so I have no idea of how true that may be.
>
Ellison claimed that Cameron plagarized Ellison's episode "Soldier" from
Outer Limits as the basis for Terminator. As an out of court
settlement, Ellison got an on-screen credit and an undisclosed amount of
cash. As this was post-release, not all theater or video copies have
it, but a fair number do.
While studio's do face copyright claims on a regular basis it's not as
common for them to come from established authors, and the on-screen
credit is even rarer than a cash settlement. That's the part that
convinces me that the settlement was more than just the least expensive
way of making the suit go away. In Hollywood it's credit on the screen
that counts more than money.
Sean Emmott
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote in message
<<<SNIP>>>
>Visually it probably is one of the best movies ever made. As far as
>the story, dialogue, and characters go, it bites the big one.
A bit like Star Wars then?
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
>
>Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote in message
>
><<<SNIP>>>
>
>>Visually it probably is one of the best movies ever made. As far as
>>the story, dialogue, and characters go, it bites the big one.
>
>A bit like Star Wars then?
>
>Cheers,
>Sean.
Ahem... well... uh...
Well, at least Star Wars is an original story! They didn't base it on
anything... like... the Seven Samurai, or half the westerns ever made,
or Robin Hood... uh...
Well, at least they had a bunch of cool monsters in the first one...
all of them were original creations! Well... except maybe... a couple
of old masks they re-used... uh...
Well, at least Star Wars had James Earl Jones. Pbbt!
Thomas McCambley
Robert Baldwin (bald...@lanecc.STOPSPAM.edu) writes:
> Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:27:28 +0200, Staffan Johansson
>> <d9...@efd.lth.se> wrote:
>>
>> >Robert Baldwin wrote:
>> >> Hey, that's another good reason. Personally, I'm just not happy about
>> >> that twit Cameron ripping of Harlan Ellison, so I'm not inclined to see
>> >> his latest "original" production.
>> >
>> >I'm not all that familiar with Harlan Ellison's work, so maybe you could
>> >enlighten me what Cameron did that constituted ripping off Ellison?
>> >--
>> > Staffan Johansson (d9...@efd.lth.se)
>> >Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.
>>
>> Terminator is said to be an Ellison ripoff... usually in
>> alt.cult-movies,a thread like this pops up every few months. I've
>> never read Ellison, so I have no idea of how true that may be.
>>
>
> Ellison claimed that Cameron plagarized Ellison's episode "Soldier" from
> Outer Limits as the basis for Terminator. As an out of court
Not to butt in here, but Ellison's story "Demon with a Glass Hand" was I
believe also plagarized by Cameron in the production of "The Terminator."
Cheers,
Tom McCambley
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The Astonishing Yazoo
On 30 Jun 1998 22:05:48 GMT, cloud...@aol.com (CloudVader) spake
thusly:
>>Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
>>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
>>of all time list...
>Hate to break it to you, but it already has beaten Star Wars. :(
>This pisses me off to no end, as well, and I also refuse to see Titanic on that
>principle, and on the principle that I despise Leonardo DiCrapio. It's a shame
>that James Cameron went from making Aliens, T2, and True Lies to second-rate
>romance movies.
There may still be hope; I heard from a decent source that he was
*begging* Marvel to let him do the Spider-Man movie. As long as he
doesn't turn it into a big romance, and instead of having it about
Spider-Man making it about Spider-Man's relationship with Mary Jane or
something...
-Dave
>CloudVader (Cloud...@aol.com)
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Coleman Jeremiah L
In article <6nb8qt$snd$1...@news.bctel.net>,
The Astonishing Yazoo <se...@sig.file> wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
>(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>
>>
>
>Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
>
"He said, as he watched all the lemmings march into the sea..."
Jay
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Coleman Jeremiah L
In article <3597FE...@allergic.to.spam.com>,
Brett A. Paul <theic...@allergic.to.spam.com> wrote:
>Chay0s wrote:
>>
>> Even more famous than Margaret and Tracy which most people wouldn't know, try
>> these two on for size, which everyone knows.
>>
>> Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. They played. I found it out in Details, the one
>> with Ben Affleck on the cover.
>
>Who's Ben Affleck?
>
>- Brett
>http://theicemage.home.mindspring.com/
Or Matt Damon?
Coleman Jeremiah L
In article <35992493...@news.erols.com>,
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) <power...@erols.com> wrote:
>Kevin Smith the director/writer, who created the "New Jersey Trilogy",
>Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy.
>
>I don't watch Xena or Hercules... they make me barf.
Those are two of the few shows I'll actually watch often.
The main reason is that the people involved in making the
shows _know_ what the shows are, and keep their collective
tongue firmly in cheek.
I'll watch that over any sci-fi/fantasy show or movie that
takes itself too seriously anytime... (excluding MST3k, that
is)
The Astonishing Yazoo
On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:35:15 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
(Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>I heard some descriptions of some of the more stupid scenes in Titanic
>from a movie critic friend who saw it.... the best example was when
>the ship was going down, and Winslet looks at DiCaprio and says "This
>is where we first met!"
My mom and aunt went with my dad and uncle. Their father was a
sailor, and my dad was, too, and my mom said that they almost hit them
because they mentioned every inaccuracy with the way the boat was laid
out or something-- I can't go into specifics, but apparently it wasn't
as accurate as it was made out to be.
>Visually it probably is one of the best movies ever made. As far as
>the story, dialogue, and characters go, it bites the big one.
-Dave
The Astonishing Yazoo
On Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:56:57 -0500, Stevil the Parakeet Shaman
<smar...@ocean.otr.usm.edu> spake thusly:
>> Why? This just smacks of pretense and arrogance.
>>
>> "I refuse to see 'Titanic'!"
>> "Why?"
>> "Becasue a lot of people really like it and say it is good."
>> "Oh, I see..."
>>
>> I have never really understood this type of attitude. I always give
>> everything a chance before I decide whether I like it or not (even "Barney"
>> and the "Power Rangers"). This condemnation of popular fim, music, TV,
>> etc. is the worst kind of pseudo-intellectual power-trip. It is the
>> "Everyone is stupid except me" attitude given form.
Hey, I like Power Rangers. The original ones. It is all of these
spin-offs and cheap rip-offs that stink. And my reasons for not
seeing Titanic have nothing to do with its popularity. First, I hate
Leonardo DiCaprio. Second, I have better things to do then sit in a
movie theatre with a bunch of adolescent girls oohing and aahing over
a person that they will probably never even meet, and if they did, he
would probably not even remember them the next day.
With all due respect, your argument sounds very similar to someone who
said I don't like Aqua or the Backstreet Boys just because they are
popular. Sure. <SARCASM> Normally I love bands that play the same
song over and over again with different words, as well as those who
basically reach their success on a fan base that only likes them
because they find them good looking.</SARCASM> Yeesh, I almost puked
when MuchMusic's poll of best video of all time resulted with
"Everybody" or whatever winning. Radiohead was a lowly 25th, I think.
Now I won't go into my argument about how the record companies control
the entire medium, and choose what we listen to, but...
Anyway, Titanic's popularity has nothing to do with me not seeing it.
-Dave
>*Long round of applause.* Thank you, Dave, I couldn't have said it better
>myself. My dislike of Titanic has nothing to do with its popularity.
>This anti-everything counterculture crap, which in itself is a pop culture
>phenomenon, gets annoying sometimes...
>Lord Stevil the Parakeet Shaman
>
>Please send all flames and death threats to: smar...@ocean.st.usm.edu
>You know what to do with your spam.
Robert Baldwin
> >>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
> >>of all time list...
>
> >Hate to break it to you, but it already has beaten Star Wars. :(
>
> months ago). When adjusted for inflation, Star Wars had raked in
> 750million, and was in 2nd place (After Gone With the Wind at 1.2
> billion). Titanic was still at under 400million last I heard.
I wonder if that includes video sales.
towo...@concentric.net
Robert Baldwin <bald...@lanecc.STOPSPAM.edu> might have said:
>I wonder if that includes video sales.
Unfortunately, I believe it did. 8(
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 19:05:03 GMT, wc...@NOSPAMgeocities.com (The
Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
>On 30 Jun 1998 22:05:48 GMT, cloud...@aol.com (CloudVader) spake
>thusly:
>
>>>Nah, there are a bunch of us. Of course, my secondary reason is that
>>>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
>>>of all time list...
>
>>Hate to break it to you, but it already has beaten Star Wars. :(
>
>>This pisses me off to no end, as well, and I also refuse to see Titanic on that
>>principle, and on the principle that I despise Leonardo DiCrapio. It's a shame
>>that James Cameron went from making Aliens, T2, and True Lies to second-rate
>>romance movies.
>
>There may still be hope; I heard from a decent source that he was
>*begging* Marvel to let him do the Spider-Man movie. As long as he
>doesn't turn it into a big romance, and instead of having it about
>Spider-Man making it about Spider-Man's relationship with Mary Jane or
>something...
>
>-Dave
Go guys have got to start hanging out with us in alt.cult-movies...
we've talked about all this stuff many times!
I'd LOVE to see Spider Man... the villains he faced are amongst my
all-time favorites! The problem is, Marvel is in some bad financial
shape, and until they square their asses away, Cameron can't start
producing the script. At this point, he'd probably want to BUY Marvel
just so he can get shit rolling.
I heard he may pick up a different project for now, until Marvel can
work out all of their financial problems, but I don't remember what it
was.
The Hussman
The Astonishing Yazoo wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
> (Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>
> >
> >I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>
> Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
> that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
> had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
>
> -Dave
Wait now. Fine, you hate Leo and Kate and whatever, but I'm sorry,
Titanic was a good movie. Sure, the acting was standard, but despite
what you think about Cameron (he's not my favorite either. But he did do
Aliens and the Terminators), the FX in the movie, under his direction,
did an excellent job portraying the awesome horror of this massive ship
sinking. The part where the stern begins to rise, crack, then fall back
were particularly well done...
Chris Hussey
Robert Baldwin
Thomas McCambley wrote:
>
> Robert Baldwin (bald...@lanecc.STOPSPAM.edu) writes:
> > Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:27:28 +0200, Staffan Johansson
> >> <d9...@efd.lth.se> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Robert Baldwin wrote:
> >> >> Hey, that's another good reason. Personally, I'm just not happy about
> >> >> that twit Cameron ripping of Harlan Ellison, so I'm not inclined to see
> >> >> his latest "original" production.
> >> >
> >> >I'm not all that familiar with Harlan Ellison's work, so maybe you could
> >> >enlighten me what Cameron did that constituted ripping off Ellison?
> >> >--
> >> > Staffan Johansson (d9...@efd.lth.se)
> >> >Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.
> >>
> >> Terminator is said to be an Ellison ripoff... usually in
> >> alt.cult-movies,a thread like this pops up every few months. I've
> >> never read Ellison, so I have no idea of how true that may be.
> >>
> >
> > Ellison claimed that Cameron plagarized Ellison's episode "Soldier" from
> > Outer Limits as the basis for Terminator. As an out of court
>
> Not to butt in here, but Ellison's story "Demon with a Glass Hand" was I
> believe also plagarized by Cameron in the production of "The Terminator."
Das' ok, all fans o' mastuh Harlan is welcom. :-)
From the FAQ at http://www.menagerie.net/ellison/text/faq.txt
WHAT WAS THE TERMINATOR LAWSUIT?
Here's the final word, as related by Rick Wyatt....
It was discovered that James Cameron had ripped off HE's "Outer
Limits"
story "Soldier". Deposition was given that Cameron had admitted this,
and the producer of the film settled out of court with Ellison and
placed
a very large add in _Variety_ and _The Hollywood Reporter_. Ever since
then, Cameron is said to go ballistic if Ellison's name is mentioned.
Further, deponent sayeth not. ;-)
Alan D Kohler
On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:35:15 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
(Chris Baile)) wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:29:16 GMT, hwk...@REMOVE2REPLY.poky.srv.net
>(Alan D Kohler) wrote:
>>However, I do not consider Titanic to be Cameron's best work. Not by a
>>long shot. Peraps "artistically" speaking it is, but that is not the
>>only thing that appeals to me.
>
>Visually it probably is one of the best movies ever made. As far as
>the story, dialogue, and characters go, it bites the big one.
When I say "artistically" speaking, I am pretty much saying "as would
be viewed by the academy of performing arts." But as history
continially proves, good movies from the viewpoint of the layman and
acadamy award winners are often two different things.
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Robert Baldwin
towo...@concentric.net wrote:
>
> Robert Baldwin <bald...@lanecc.STOPSPAM.edu> might have said:
> >I wonder if that includes video sales.
>
> Unfortunately, I believe it did. 8(
>
Well, then I suggest that we stop looking at *gross* revenue, and look
at net revenue as a multiple of capital invested. SW only cost 10mil. to
make, Titanic cost what, 200mil? So, with a revenue of 750mil SW is at
7490% return on capital, while at 400mil Titanic is only at 100% ROC.
So, SW is 74.9 times as successful as Titanic. I feel better now. :-)
(Who says accountants don't have fun <g>)
Barry B Wood
> Well, at least Star Wars is an original story!
Not exactly. Frank Herbert and his director encountered
problems when putting "Dune" onto the silver screen. There
were just too many similarities to be coincidental.
Thomas Schrupp
Sarah Koto (raiko82nospa...@nospamathotmail.nospamatthiscom) wrote:
: In article <6ndft5$dan$1...@news1.bu.edu>, jbu...@bu.edu (Jacob Boucher) wrote:
: + Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) (power...@erols.com) wrote:
: + : And in my circle of friends, which includes a movie critic, several
: + : people thought she was a little heavy. Once again, I site the Rolling
: + : Stone cover she appeared on.
: + : I'm sure the next comment coming is someone calling me a big faggot
: + : because I have the audacity to not be attracted to Winslet, and so be
: + : it. I know what I like, and her fat ass isn't it.
: Um? Um? "Big faggot?" What an insult. :-|
: (Grow up.)
: (By the way, not all of us on this group are het. Consider that before you
: let your mouth run needlessly and make yourself look like a fool. You big
: faggot.)
Awe, come on.... give him a little slack. If it wasn't for fools letting
their mouths run needlessly how would intelligent and mature people stand
out?
: + Personally, I like my women with some curve, and I think she looked pretty
: + fine. I just don't understand guys who have a precise list of specifications
: + for their "dream girl" and any woman who does not fall into the right category
: + is "chunky" or some other derrogatory remark. That shit comes back to haunt
: + you when you are 36 and still living with your parents, holding your weekly
: + D&D sessions in your basement bedroom and downloading porn at 2am, drooling
: + over Jenny MacArthy or Carmen Elektra or the latest fancy lady to catch your
: + eye.
: Agreed. Women come in all shapes and sizes. The only thing I really do find
: repulsive /is/ the stuck up, silicone-enhanced blonde who obsesses about her
: body and thinks she's perfect.
Hmmm... I find that interesting. I always thought girls got breast-jobs
because they DIDN'T think they were perfect. Maybe they think they're
perfect after the operation. Personally, I find few things less attractive
than fake breasts.
: Personally, I think Jenny MacArthy is a dumb ass. Have you seen how she acts
: in public?
:
Dumb doesn't begin to describe that no-talent whore.
: + They're women, guys! Beautiful, mysterious, and wonderful. Some are
: + annoying, some are repulsive, but a "fat ass" does not a repulsive girl make.
: Always fun to have something to grab . . . ;)
Agreed.
Now, with all of that said... I have to agree that I find the Winslet girl
unattractive. I never thought of her as "chubby," but I did know the first
time I saw her that she wasn't my type. What's my type? Hell if I know.
I do know that I can recognize it at first glance. You can call me shallow
for that, and maybe I am, but so far it hasn't failed me. The girls I've
been attracted to off the bat have all been interesting and intelligent,
as well as beautiful (and I'm not about to try to define beauty, so far
I have't been very consistent in what I like).
: + With all that, is this thread going to get back to Geekdom any time soon?
: Gary Gygax. Ed Greenwood.
Do we have to talk about people whose names begin with 'G' in order to
be getting back to Geekdom?
: There we go ;)
--
Thomas Schrupp
Graduate Research Assistant
MSU/NSF ERC for CFS
towo...@concentric.net
Robert Baldwin <bald...@lanecc.STOPSPAM.edu> might have said:
>Well, then I suggest that we stop looking at *gross* revenue, and look
>at net revenue as a multiple of capital invested. SW only cost 10mil. to
>make, Titanic cost what, 200mil? So, with a revenue of 750mil SW is at
>7490% return on capital, while at 400mil Titanic is only at 100% ROC.
>So, SW is 74.9 times as successful as Titanic. I feel better now. :-)
>(Who says accountants don't have fun <g>)
*laugh* I LIKE that interpetation...
Dave Brohman
> >>I'm not going to help that damned movie pass Star Wars on the Top 10
> >>of all time list...
> >Hate to break it to you, but it already has beaten Star Wars. :(
> Actually, no, it hasn't, at least last I heard (which I'll admit, was 2
> months ago). When adjusted for inflation, Star Wars had raked in
> 750million, and was in 2nd place (After Gone With the Wind at 1.2
> billion). Titanic was still at under 400million last I heard.
Titanic has topped a Billion, more than 2 months ago. Now we just have
to wait for the new Star Wars trilogy... :)
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Dave Brohman
> Astonishing Yazoo) wrote:
> >There may still be hope; I heard from a decent source that he was
> >*begging* Marvel to let him do the Spider-Man movie. As long as he
> >doesn't turn it into a big romance, and instead of having it about
> >Spider-Man making it about Spider-Man's relationship with Mary Jane or
> >something...
> Go guys have got to start hanging out with us in alt.cult-movies...
> we've talked about all this stuff many times!
> I'd LOVE to see Spider Man... the villains he faced are amongst my
> all-time favorites! The problem is, Marvel is in some bad financial
> shape, and until they square their asses away, Cameron can't start
> producing the script. At this point, he'd probably want to BUY Marvel
> just so he can get shit rolling.
It's too bad Spiderman is such a huge puss though. One of my fave
moments in comicdom was hthe original Longshot miniseries when Longhot
kicked spiderman's ass six ways from sunday. He even out did Spiderham
on the "I don't like violence and don't want to hurt you" routine.
I am much more excited at the prospect of Terry Gillaim doing the
'Watchmen' film.
Dave Brohman
Robert Baldwin (bald...@lanecc.STOPSPAM.edu) wrote:
> Well, then I suggest that we stop looking at *gross* revenue, and look
> at net revenue as a multiple of capital invested. SW only cost 10mil. to
> make, Titanic cost what, 200mil? So, with a revenue of 750mil SW is at
> 7490% return on capital, while at 400mil Titanic is only at 100% ROC.
> So, SW is 74.9 times as successful as Titanic. I feel better now. :-)
> (Who says accountants don't have fun <g>)
Except that Titanic passed 1 Billion dollars several months ago. Nad
we'll just have to see what the vidoe sales of Titanic do to your equation
won't we... ;)
Personaly, I can't wait for the new Star Wars Trilogy. If anything can
sink Titanic*, that can.
* Pun intended.
towo...@concentric.net
Dave Brohman <dbro...@chat.carleton.ca> might have said:
> Titanic has topped a Billion, more than 2 months ago. Now we just have
Not that I had heard. The figures I'd seen were in a local paper; how
about yours?
(not that I'm entirely doubting you....but I'm fairly certain that if the
movie had broken the billions mark, *everyone* would know...)
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
>
>
>The Astonishing Yazoo wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:58:47 GMT, power...@erols.com (Lone Wolf
>> (Chris Baile)) spake thusly:
>>
>> >
>> >I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
>>
>> Woohoo! And I thought that I was the only one. There was a report
>> that over half of the population of our town (which is about 80000)
>> had seen Titanic. I was proud that I was one of the other half.
>>
>> -Dave
>
>Wait now. Fine, you hate Leo and Kate and whatever, but I'm sorry,
>Titanic was a good movie. Sure, the acting was standard, but despite
>what you think about Cameron (he's not my favorite either. But he did do
>Aliens and the Terminators), the FX in the movie, under his direction,
Hello? I've already acknowledged Cameron's other films and how much I
enjoy them... Aliens and Terminator 2 are two of my favorite movies.
Ever see Pihrana 2? Cameron's first... I'm one of the only people who
has seen it.
>did an excellent job portraying the awesome horror of this massive ship
>sinking. The part where the stern begins to rise, crack, then fall back
>were particularly well done...
>
>Chris Hussey
I've also acknowledged the special effects and superb set design. I
ADMIT it is possibly the best-looking film ever made, but the writing
and acting are vomit-inducing.
BUT
I'm not a historian. I have friends who get all bunged up over
airplanes and boats and world history. I just don't care. I like
movies about ancient history, or the middle ages... maybe something
with Indiana Jones... but I don't CARE about the story of the Titanic.
That's simply my taste, and I don't care if people agree or disagree.
I know what I like.
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:11:04 -0500, Barry B Wood <fen...@utdallas.edu>
wrote:
Ok.... way to miss my intentional sarcasm. Just when I think I'm being
COMPLETELY obvious...
Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)
On 2 Jul 1998 05:55:54 GMT, dbro...@chat.carleton.ca (Dave Brohman)
wrote:
> I am much more excited at the prospect of Terry Gillaim doing the
> 'Watchmen' film.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dave Brohman http://chat.carleton.ca/~dbrohman
> dbro...@chat.carleton.ca In Cyberspace, nobody cares if you scream
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello, what?
Is this a rumour, confirmed fact? TELL ME, GODAMMIT!
Best comic series EVER made was The Watchmen... and I love Gilliam's
directing... especially The Fisher King and Brazil. And Time Bandits,
of course!
Ian R Malcomson
>Best comic series EVER made was The Watchmen... and I love Gilliam's
>directing... especially The Fisher King and Brazil. And Time Bandits,
>of course!
This could be good.
I used to live down the road from Alan Moore. Now I just live in the
same town....
--
Ian R Malcomson
"...protesters against the wearers of animal skins by humans unaccountably fail
to throw their paint over Hell's Angels"
- Terry Pratchett, "The Last Continent"
the count
> >> >I refuse to see Titanic on general principle.
I refused to see it because I already know what is going to happen.
See big ship. See ship sink. Sink, ship, sink!
:p
--
"Have you no sense of decency, sir?
At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Come join my web-ring! http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski/null.html
Neale Davidson
Can the opening part of ET be taken as proof that Steven Spielberg is a
role-player. I know he is/has been because I saw it on an interview, but
since I cannot rember the specifics of the interview (when, with whom) that
can't be used as proof. Also heard that George Lucas actually plays/ has
played the Star Wars RPG, but I can't prove that either. :)
Anyone else have any proof of these to things?
CloudVader
> I am much more excited at the prospect of Terry Gillaim doing the
> 'Watchmen' film.
I'm excited about the idea of a Watchmen movie too, but being the eternal
pessimist, I feel I should point out that a Watchmen movie would seriously not
live up to the wonder of that comic series, no matter how hard they tried. Alan
Moore squeezed in so many careful and wonderful details that the movie would
need to be about 6 hours long to fully capture the essence of the 12 issues in
the series (Not that I'd mind! Hell, if they made a completely accurate
Watchmen movie 6 hours long, I'd still want to see it, regardless of time!).
If and when someone makes that movie, I will be first in line to see it, but I
don't think any film could ever live up to Moore's mini-series unless maybe
Moore himself wrote the screenplay.
CloudVader (Cloud...@aol.com)
"Maddest of all is to see life as it really is, and not life as it should be."
Visit http://members.aol.com/cloudvader/index.html for the biggest and best
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Richard Price
towo...@concentric.net wrote in message
<6nfkf3$p...@examiner.concentric.net>...
Titanic broke a billion dollars in -worldwide- sales, but is still somewhere
around 400-500 million in domestic.
Regards,
Richard L. Price
serratu...@hotmail.com
towo...@concentric.net
Richard Price <RPrice...@aol.com> might have said:
>Titanic broke a billion dollars in -worldwide- sales, but is still somewhere
>around 400-500 million in domestic.
Thats what I thought he might have been referring to. In that case, it's
still got a ways to go to beat SW...