cdr4vsd and cdralvsd in iosubsys / WinME
davexnet
while trouble shooting another problem, I stumbled upon
these two files, CDRALVSD.VXD and CDR4VSD.VXD in
windows\system\iosubsys.
This is Windows ME, but I don't remember ever installing
an Adaptec product except for an ASPI update.
I don't see anything in add/remove programs for adaptec
either.
I looked a little further, in Adaptec.inf to be precise,
and found this information in there:
"Adaptec CD Burning Plug-in Install",, -
this appears to be something to do with windows Media Player.
I have 7.01 and 6.4 versions installed.
I looked on the net and found this command:
rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
%windir%\inf\adaptec.inf,Uninstall -
that supposedly uninstalls this component.
My question is, what is it, how did it get there,
and would you recommend an uninstall?
Cheers,
Dave
smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
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Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
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WMP7 has a burn plugin by Adaptec. When WMP7 was introduced the burn
plugin caused problems to Adaptec's own Easy CD CreMator! WMP7.01 might
have the updated versions of those two files. (This was a raging topic
in Microsoft newsgroups in Summer, '00.)
IIRC, the burn plugin can be uninstalled thru Add/Remove of WMP, or
reinstall WMP without the plugin.
davexnet
>WMP7 has a burn plugin by Adaptec. When WMP7 was introduced the burn
>plugin caused problems to Adaptec's own Easy CD CreMator! WMP7.01 might
>have the updated versions of those two files. (This was a raging topic
>in Microsoft newsgroups in Summer, '00.)
>
>IIRC, the burn plugin can be uninstalled thru Add/Remove of WMP, or
>reinstall WMP without the plugin.
Thanks for the info. After my post, it occurred to me that the
plugin was probably a part of the WinME install.
WMP does not show up at all in my add/remove list.
I dare say I could install by using:
rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
%windir%\inf\wmp.inf,Uninstall -
or something like it.
It's not actually causing a problem,
but I was intrigued when I discovered it!
Cheers,
Dave
smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
---------------------------------------------
davexnet wrote:
>
> smh wrote:
> >
> >WMP7 has a burn plugin by Adaptec. When WMP7 was introduced the burn
> >plugin caused problems to Adaptec's own Easy CD CreMator! WMP7.01 might
> >have the updated versions of those two files. (This was a raging topic
> >in Microsoft newsgroups in Summer, '00.)
> >
> >IIRC, the burn plugin can be uninstalled thru Add/Remove of WMP, or
> >reinstall WMP without the plugin.
>
> Thanks for the info. After my post, it occurred to me that the
> plugin was probably a part of the WinME install.
> WMP does not show up at all in my add/remove list.
MS is making it harder and harder to uninstall components. May be MS
considers WMP indispensable part of the OS.
> I dare say I could install by using:
> rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
> %windir%\inf\wmp.inf,Uninstall -
> or something like it.
> It's not actually causing a problem,
> but I was intrigued when I discovered it!
CDR4VSD.VXD was one of the files that caused Win2k hibernation problem,
among other problems it caused. Funny thing is the file was not
supposed to be used with Ezcd 4.02 and up, but it's still being used!
If you'll be using any burn software, I would disable (turn off) the
burn plugin.
With WMP8, it can supposedly be disabled with [Tools, Options, ...,].
davexnet
>With WMP8, it can supposedly be disabled with [Tools, Options, ...,].
I did try running the manual uninstall using the adaptec.inf as
mentioned before.
It deletes the adaptec program group folder, a couple of
windows/system DLL's, but strangely enough left the
two vxd's in iosubsys.
I am running Nero, Sony cdextreme and diskjuggler without
any problems; however, I am *not* using any packet writing.
I removed the vxd's manually, but couldn't see any difference.
cheers,
Dave
smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
---------------------------------------------
davexnet wrote:
>
> smh wrote:
> >
> >With WMP8, it can supposedly be disabled with [Tools, Options, ...,].
> But I don't think there is an option in WMP 7.1.
> I did try running the manual uninstall using the adaptec.inf as
> mentioned before.
> It deletes the adaptec program group folder, a couple of
> windows/system DLL's, but strangely enough left the
> two vxd's in iosubsys.
No surprise there. All the cRoxio doc's for clean uninstall call for
manually searching and then renaming cRoxio files, and cdr4vsd is one of
them.
See if you also have CDR4VSD.SYS.
> I am running Nero, Sony cdextreme and diskjuggler without
> any problems; however, I am *not* using any packet writing.
> I removed the vxd's manually, but couldn't see any difference.
You are "safer" that way. At any rate, no sense having them around when
you don't use the burn plugin.
davexnet
>See if you also have CDR4VSD.SYS.
>
I have cdr4vsd.vxd and cdralvsd.vxd (not "sys" - because this is
Windows ME?)
I have WINXP dual boot on this box, it comes with WMP 8.
I couldn't find any trace of the adaptec stuff in there;
it's either hidden better or it doesn't exist?
What's the scoop on Adaptec recently making ASPI32
generally available for everybody? Seems reasonable,
but it sure took a long time!
Cheers,
Dave
smh
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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davexnet wrote:
>
> smh wrote:
>
> >See if you also have CDR4VSD.SYS.
> >
> I have cdr4vsd.vxd and cdralvsd.vxd (not "sys" - because this is
> Windows ME?)
Some versions of Ezcd uses it. As a matter of fact one of the Ezcd
upgrade patch failed to upgrade the .SYS file, thus causing problems.
Also cRoxio's uninstall procedures call out the .sys file as one of the
files to rename.
> I have WINXP dual boot on this box, it comes with WMP 8.
> I couldn't find any trace of the adaptec stuff in there;
> it's either hidden better or it doesn't exist?
"fiona" couldn't find them on her winxp either.
> What's the scoop on Adaptec recently making ASPI32
> generally available for everybody? Seems reasonable,
> but it sure took a long time!
Their scare tactic didn't work, actively waged by Adrian Miller and Mike
Richter (King Troll). It's total capitulation rather than Acraptec
becoming reasonable, IMO.
============================================
ASPI Kills Win XP - Adrian Miller (cRoxio)
============================================
There were NO reports of aspi killing win xp.
None, nada, zip, zilch!
Yet:
====================
From: smh
Subject: Re: direct cd 5.02 or 5.02a and windows xp rc1 - ASPI "Kills"
Date: 8/1/01 WinXP?
"Adrian Miller (cRoxio)" wrote:
>
> 4.00 and 4.01 installed the Adaptec ASPI layer and
> there have been quite a few reports in the XP beta groups
> of that killing the OS.
Aspi "killing" WinXP? "Quite a few" reports?
how BIG are your BALLS, Adrian Miller (cRoxio)?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
lets loose in Usenet this utter trash
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====================
Tim Kroesen
(along with a loose screw) against this product and has claimed publicly
in the past to never have used it... You'd be lucky if a real expert
like Adrian Miller; former company rep; would be here to help but as you
may notice he doesn't post Usenet anymore because of this fuckwit smh
and his harassment campaign. Matter of fact his *only* interest in your
question is the posting of this obvious harassment on any threads
relating to this product... It's his 'life' now.
Tim K
"davexnet" <davexnet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hmaabugnglkk3tm7s...@4ax.com...
smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
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[Subject was: cdr4vsd and cdralvsd in iosubsys / WinME]
Timmy Kroesen (the "net-Kook") wrote:
>
================================================
Deirdre Straughan (cRoxio) is a LIAR (daddy 2)
================================================
==========================
From: Deirdre Straughan (cRoxio)
Subject: Re: What happened to Adrian Miller ?????
Date: 7/6/01
No, I don't have to lie on Roxio's behalf, and I do not do it.
I would be a damn fool to imagine that I could get away for very long,
if at all, with an outright, wilfull lie.
And my daddy didn't raise no fool.
==========================
===========================
From: Deirdre' Straughan (cRoxio)
Subject: Re: Adrian Miller - help - Thanks for being RUDE!!!!
Date: 5/28/01
Yes, our software has bugs. We have never hesitated to admit it.
===========================
What a lie !!!
==================
From: jbarry
Subject: attn: Deirdre' Straughan EZCD v4 bug report!
Date: 9/1/99
It says it defaults to "Close Session and Leave CD Open". However it
really defaults to "Close Disc". Changing it back and tell it to "Set
as Default" doesn't for the most part keep that setting...
=====================
From: Mike Richter (Acraptec Shill)
Subject: Re: EZ Creator 4. 0 - True it has MAJOR bugs ?
Date: 9/2/99
They had a significant beta program as well as whatever in-house
testing they may have done.
===========================
From: Deirdre' Straughan (Acraptec)
Subject: Re: attn: Deirdre' Straughan EZCD v4 bugs.........
Date: 9/8/99
Hmm. In my own (very limited) beta testing, I found the defaults stayed
as I set them. I don't recall hearing any complaints from the beta
testers on this, either, but it's been a busy year. I'll see what I can
find out.
===========================
[There was no follow-up.]
=================
From: smh
Date: 3/23/00
Subject: Re: EZCDC4.02 - still not OK === Deirdre Straughan / Adrian
Miller - Respond to this ===
"J.F. van Baarlen" wrote:
>
> In the CD-creation setup, I can still not get it to default to 'Close
> session and leave CD open'. It still defaults to 'Close CD'. How hard
> can it be to fix something so bloody simple? It's just a matter of
> reading/writing the correct dword from the registry and selecting the
> appropriate radio-button.
=================
[There was no response from the slimy weasels.]
Finally an "aware of" for a bug posted on (9/1/99) and (3/23/00) !!!
======================
From: "Adrian Miller (cRoxio)"
Subject: Re: EZCD 5 has BIGS!!!!
Date: 2/25/01
> When you hit record and the options box comes up, it
> lets you change the options and the you hit "Save as Default" for the
> next time. This doesn't work and goes back to Adaptec's default option
Known issue to be fixed in 5.01 due fairly soon.
======================
Note: It's still not fixed in 5.01.
=====================
From: Mike Richter (cRoxio Shill)
Subject: Re: EZCD 5 has BIGS!!!!
Date: 2/25/01
> >Known issue to be fixed in 5.01 due fairly soon.
It was found by the beta testers many months ago.
=====================
Note:
This is the first ever comment by Mike Richter on the bug that's
reported on (9/1/99), and it came only after Adrian Miller acknowledged
it on (2/25/01).
smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
---------------------------------------------
smh
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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davexnet wrote:
>
> What's the scoop on Adaptec recently making ASPI32
> generally available for everybody? Seems reasonable,
> but it sure took a long time!
Their scare tactic didn't work, actively waged by Adrian Miller and Mike
Richter (King Troll). It's total capitulation rather than Acraptec
becoming reasonable, IMO.
=========================================================
Mike Richter - Respond to this - Unstable Galore & ASPI
=========================================================
[Subject was: ForceAspi utility and Win2k]
Hey, Mike Richter (King Troll), why don't you respond to these?
==================================
From: smh
Subject: Re: Roxio suing Gracenote... - Leave system unstable & Get
Date: 6/26/01 unstable?
Mike Richter (King Troll) wrote:
>
> In my
> experience, the ASPI layer itself can exist in Win2K - Adaptec does not
> say anything about that. Some programs use it without doing any damage;
> others leave the system unstable.
What are these programs that leave the system unstable, using aspi?
But then you just wrote:
----------------------
From: Mike Richter (King Troll)
Subject: Re: Roxio suing Gracenote...
Date: 6/25/01
Nonsense. I use the Adaptec ASPI layer on my Win2K machine in spite of
it not being supported there and in spite of some applications
which use it being unstable in the OS.
----------------------
What are these applications that become unstable, using aspi?
Do these programs get unstable themselves and at the same time make the
OS unstable, just by using aspi?
==================================
Was Mike Richter (King Troll) spreading scares on installing aspi -- so
that other burn softwares couldn't be used?
smh
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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[Subject was: cdr4vsd and cdralvsd in iosubsys / WinME]
davexnet wrote:
>
> What's the scoop on Adaptec recently making ASPI32
> generally available for everybody? Seems reasonable,
> but it sure took a long time!
Their scare tactic didn't work, actively waged by Adrian Miller and Mike
smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
---------------------------------------------
davexnet wrote:
>
> What's the scoop on Adaptec recently making ASPI32
> generally available for everybody? Seems reasonable,
> but it sure took a long time!
Their scare tactic didn't work, actively waged by Adrian Miller and Mike
Richter (King Troll). It's total capitulation rather than Acraptec
becoming reasonable, IMO.
=================================================
Square pegs & Round holes Jazz (WinME Psychic?)
=================================================
Adrian Miller (11/29/01) wrote:
>
> Actually Sam, it has a modified cut down version of the Adaptec ASPI which
> is why installing the Adaptec ASPI into it can cause severe BSODs.
It's now modified and cut down. Seemed to recall your saying that
the bundled aspi is the old version of Acraptec aspi, the same one
bundled with Win9x, including Win98SE. Are you saying the old version
is modified just by being an older version?
Let see now. The bundled aspi is a modified and cut down version. So
installing Acraptec aspi causes severe BSOD. Seemed to make perfect
logical sense, I think. BTW, what's the difference between a severe
and less severe BSOD?
When does BSOD happen, before, during or after the aspi install?
> ECDC 5
> does not require the Adaptec ASPI so there is no requirement to install it.
Isn't the internalized aspi Acraptec's? Wonder why bother internalizing
it when there is no need for it?
> I am using Me on one of may machines at the moment and it does crash atleast
> once a day, I always found 98SE to be more stable.
Do you suppose ME is less stable than 98SE just by having a modified and
cut down version of aspi? Or, may be ME can sense when aspi is about to
be installed? Strange, though, why this doesn't happen with 98SE when
they have the same old aspi. Do you suppose ME is psychic?
BTW, would you care to response to this now?
=============================================
From: smh
Subject: Re: A Note on the Acraptec ASPI Page - Conflicts Galore
Date: 9/24/01
Adrian Miller wrote (9/23/01):
>
> > Acraptec ASPI Page:
> > --------------------------------
> > Caution:
> > Do NOT install ASPI32.EXE with Windows 2000, Windows ME, Easy CD
> > Creator 4.x, or with Windows Media Player 7.0. If you have one of these
> > applications (or operating systems), you will be using a different aspi
> > layer that will conflict with the one provided in this file.
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > It says: "Do not install" because "will conflict".
> > With Ezcd 4.02+, for example, both Mike Richter and Adrian Miller
> > screamed that it does not use aspi layer. That means there is nothing
> > to be conflicted with!
>
> Except the opertaing systems, Windows 2000, Windows Me and Windows XP. They
> have alternates to ASPI built in by Microsoft that conflict with the Adaptec
> ASPI.
[Note: The built-in alternate aspi is SPTI]
[Note: Win NT4 comes with it, but Win ME does not.]
[Note: NT4 used aspi without any conflict.]
Imagine Win ME has a built-in alternate aspi that conflicts with aspi,
yet Microsoft bundles it with aspi! Didn't Acraptec warn Microsoft of
this built-in, as it were, conflict?
You did not list Win NT4. Is it because Win NT4 does not have this
unnamed, mysterious alternate to aspi? Don't you think it's strange
that Microsoft does not bundle aspi with Win NT4 despite not having the
alternate to aspi? But Microsoft bundles aspi with Win ME despite
having the conflicts with alternate to aspi!
> > So is the case with Win2K as it does not bundle the aspi.
> >
> > So is the case with WMP7 as it uses Ezcd 4.02 engine, which does "not
> > use" aspi.
> >
> > What is farcical about the so called "conflict" is that ASPI32.EXE
> > overwrites (or replaces) whatever the aspi files on the system. For the
> > life of me, I don't see how that constitutes as "conflict."
> The file names may be the same, that does not mean that they re-act in
> exactly the same ways. That is where the issue lies, the Adaptec versions
> are < square pegs > in < round holes > on the newer OS.
Isn't it only natural that newer and older versions of aspi should
"react" not exactly the same? Does that automatically translate into
conflicts? Is this Adrian Miller's wise words of the month (or year)?
Let see, Ezcd 4 and 5 "react" differently. Thus, Ezcd 4 must conflict
with Win 2K and Win ME! But cRoxio says Ezcd 4 is compatible on those
OS. I wonder what happened to the "square pegs" and "round holes" jazz.
Here's another of your wise words:
======================
From: "Adrian Miller (cRoxio)"
Subject: Re: ASPI in WinME?
Date: 1/17/01
... In the case of Windows 2000 it should not be a problem
as the final version was Windows 2000 compatible ...
=====================
Where's your warning that the latest aspi conflicts with the built-in
alternate aspi? Didn't you feel the pain then? What happened to the
"square pegs" and "round holes" jazz?
-----------------------------------------------
Doesn't the built-in aspi in Ezcd conflict with
the built-in alternate aspi of Win 2K?
-----------------------------------------------
No "square pegs" and "round holes" jazz?
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smh
how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller?
---------------------------------------------
Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec
let loosed in Usenet this utter trash
---------------------------------------------
[Subject was: cdr4vsd and cdralvsd in iosubsys / WinME]
davexnet wrote:
>
> What's the scoop on Adaptec recently making ASPI32
> generally available for everybody? Seems reasonable,
> but it sure took a long time!
Their scare tactic didn't work, actively waged by Adrian Miller and Mike