NEWS: Chance Revolution at Dorney
Sandy A. Nicolaysen
for 2004. Location to be near Steel Force.
I wonder how this will compare to Delerium at PKI?
- Sandy
Mamoosh
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> I wonder how this will compare to Delerium at PKI?
Considering riders face inwards, I suspect it will be quite different
than Delirium. It's the exact same ride model Hershey and Knotts
debuted this year...Chance's version of the KMG Afterburner.
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> Considering riders face inwards, I suspect it will be quite different
> than Delirium. It's the exact same ride model Hershey and Knotts
> debuted this year...Chance's version of the KMG Afterburner.
It's a good ride. Not as intense as an Afterburner/Fireball, but more
powerful.
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Chris Kearsing
> > Considering riders face inwards, I suspect it will be quite different
> > than Delirium. It's the exact same ride model Hershey and Knotts
> > debuted this year...Chance's version of the KMG Afterburner.
> It's a good ride. Not as intense as an Afterburner/Fireball, but more
> powerful.
That doesn't have anything to do with the ride, though, but rather how
the park chooses to operate the ride.
As I understand it, Chance essentially brokers the Afterburner for
KMG. They build the ride *exactly* to KMG's specs, unlike Zamperla,
who have made modifications to the ride's design. This means that the
Chance Revolution is essentially the same ride as the KMG Afterburner,
but the difference in experience lies in the fact that you'll find the
KMG product on the fair circuit where it will run more insane than the
Chance product found in corporate amusement parks.
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David Burton
RCoaster
To me, it's an OK ride. It does give moments of airtime, but you have
to be lucky to get the right seat. Those rides are multiplying
everywhere, just like the Vekoma Boomerang. I personally think the
Huss Frisbee gives a much more intense ride than the KMG/Chance
version. I haven't ridden Zamperla's version at Martin's Fantasy
Island.
HauntVentFX
> Bit like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes Benz I suppose.
Hmm, wonder why they're adding one of those rides? Could it be due to
the huge popularity of THE CLAW at (relatively nearby) Hersheypark
this past season?!
Mark Rosenzweig
> As I understand it, Chance essentially brokers the Afterburner for
> KMG. They build the ride *exactly* to KMG's specs, unlike Zamperla,
> who have made modifications to the ride's design. This means that the
> Chance Revolution is essentially the same ride as the KMG Afterburner,
> but the difference in experience lies in the fact that you'll find the
> KMG product on the fair circuit where it will run more insane than the
> Chance product found in corporate amusement parks.
You're mostly right on that one. To be a bit more specific, most of
my sources have told me that Chance reps both the 32 seat Revolution
(available as a park model only), and 24 seat PARK MODEL Afterburners.
In other words, they deal with the park models, and KMG's reps deal
with the trailer models. (At least in the U.S. and Canada- unsure as
to what the deal is overseas and in South America). Thus far, I think
KMG is only offering the 16 seat Freak Out as a trailer model, but I'm
sure they would offer a park model should a potential customer ask for
one.
I'm unsure as to whether SCBB's Afterburner is a trailer or park model
(I'm assuming it's a trailer model). In that case, they dealt with
the KMG rep in Texas (as did Oak's and Branson U.S.A. on their
Afterburners).
-Mark
LONNOL
> > powerful.
> That doesn't have anything to do with the ride, though, but rather how
> the park chooses to operate the ride.
I think that is correct for the most part, but I think a little bit
has to do with the fact that the 32 seater has a larger radius than
the 24.
> As I understand it, Chance essentially brokers the Afterburner for
> KMG. They build the ride *exactly* to KMG's specs, unlike Zamperla,
> who have made modifications to the ride's design. This means that the
> Chance Revolution is essentially the same ride as the KMG Afterburner,
> but the difference in experience lies in the fact that you'll find the
> KMG product on the fair circuit where it will run more insane than the
> Chance product found in corporate amusement parks.
Yes, Chance sells all the park models in the US (both 32 and 24).
Everything else in the U.S. (Experience, Afterburner, Freak Out, etc.)
is handled by International Ride Services out of Texas. In fact the
first 32 seater at Thorpe, despite being called a Chance ride, was
built in Europe by KMG.
Adam
Shawn Mamros
>Bit like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes Benz I suppose.
Well, Hyundai does have the better warranty... ;-)
Rob Ascough
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It seems that Dorney follows Hershey quite a bit...
Great Bear was followed by Talon
Wild Mouse was followed by... Wild Mouse
The Claw followed by this ride
Not that I'm complaining, just pointing out!
mamoosh
> Yes, Chance sells all the park models in the
> US (both 32 and 24). Everything else in the U.S.
> (Experience, Afterburner, Freak Out, etc.) is handled
> by International Ride Services out of Texas. In fact
> the first 32 seater at Thorpe, despite being called a
> Chance ride, was built in Europe by KMG.
Adam - I'm not sure if you can explain it but I have always been able
to fit comfortably in the restraint on the KMG Afterburner model but I
have yet to find a Chance Revolution model that I can fit into, even
after losing weight!
Are you *sure* those models are the same? Seems to me there is
something different about the restraints.
mOOSH
HauntVentFX
> David Burton <zamp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Bit like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes Benz I suppose.
>
> Well, Hyundai does have the better warranty... ;-)
Maybe Hyundai has a better warranty, but I know of a good number of
people who go through hell and back when it comes to them honoring
that warranty within a reasonable time period. That plus, certain
Hyundai's (especially the Excel's) have been know to have their
transmissions (lots of plastic parts) burn out every 20,000 to 40,000
miles. Yes, the company will replace them if under warranty, but to
go through THAT many transmissions, etc., during the life of the car
is just not worth it!
Mike Parker
>to fit comfortably in the restraint on the KMG Afterburner model but I
>have yet to find a Chance Revolution model that I can fit into, even
>after losing weight!
>
>Are you *sure* those models are the same? Seems to me there is
>something different about the restraints.
>
>mOOSH
I have the exact same problem, I can fit into any KMG ride anywhere that was
made by KMG, even Expierience which supposedly has the tightest restraints.
And I fit into the Afterburner at Thrope with no problem at all. But the
Chance Model I come nowhere even close to fitting even with the largest ride
ops trying to get the thing closed and get the light on. I head somewhere that
it may have to do with Metric-Imperial conversions on some parts, not usre on
that, but something is definately up.
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Iain Hendry
> ops trying to get the thing closed and get the light on. I head somewhere
that
> it may have to do with Metric-Imperial conversions on some parts, not usre
on
> that, but something is definately up.
I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. :)
Iain
Mike Parker
>that
>> it may have to do with Metric-Imperial conversions on some parts, not usre
>on
>> that, but something is definately up.
>
>I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. :)
>
> Iain
>
>
I'm talking like something was supposed to be like one meter and instead it was
made one foot (I dont know any metrics what so ever, but something along those
lines, something in one type of measuring units was done in the other without
being properly converted), happened to NASA, could always happen to
Chance/Morgan :)
HauntVentFX
> > the huge popularity of THE CLAW at (relatively nearby) Hersheypark
> > this past season?!
>
> It seems that Dorney follows Hershey quite a bit...
>
> Great Bear was followed by Talon
> Wild Mouse was followed by... Wild Mouse
> The Claw followed by this ride
>
> Not that I'm complaining, just pointing out!
In that Cedar Fair parks already had two Intamin hydraulic launching
coasters, it would stand to reason that Dorney Park could get one in
the forseeable future. Yet another ride that Hersheypark beat out
Dorney for!
Ted Ansley
I suggest you check Hyundai again! The Sonata beats just about every
american or european car in reliabilty, according ot Consumer Reports, is rated
above to well above average and is a recommended used car buy. The same is
becoming true for all the newer Hyundai designs, and now for Kia's newer designs
as well. (Hyundai bought Kia in 2000). The Kia Minivan has the Hyundai 3.5
Liter engine from the Hyundai XG350 luxury car, and the Kia Optima is a twin of
the Hyundai Sonata.
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Rob Ascough
> coasters, it would stand to reason that Dorney Park could get one in
> the forseeable future. Yet another ride that Hersheypark beat out
> Dorney for!
I was almost certain that Dorney's next coaster would be an Intamin
Impulse... I wonder if that idea was axed when it was discovered that
Hershey was adding a launched coaster this year. Maybe that's why they're
getting a floorless instead!
And, in all honesty, I'd rather a floorless. The whole "terrain" idea
sounds pretty good.
RSteven850
>I'm talking like something was supposed to be like one meter and instead it
>was
>made one foot (I dont know any metrics what so ever, but something along
>those
>lines, something in one type of measuring units was done in the other without
>being properly converted), happened to NASA, could always happen to
>Chance/Morgan :)
Iain, remember the Gimli Glider? In the 1970's an Air Canada 747 ran out of
fuel and did a successful dead stick landing at Gimli, NW of Winnipeg.
They'd just switched to metric and didn't put enough fuel on board!
Roz
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LONNOL
> to fit comfortably in the restraint on the KMG Afterburner model but I
> have yet to find a Chance Revolution model that I can fit into, even
> after losing weight!
I honestly can't help you on that one, Moosh. I wonder if Chance
Morgan made a change or two on the restraints? All the Dr. of flat
rides can prescribe for you is more time on the Butler and Ray Cammack
midways! :)
Adam
Daniel W. Rouse Jr.
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They might have made a change--aside from the obvious change in that KBF La
Revolucion has manual pull-down restraints vs. usual auto-lowering
restraints found on most KMG rides.
Whatever it is, the green light has some very odd behavior. Try this out for
yourselves if you do fit the restraints to get a green light...
Steps:
1. Make sure the restraints have not yet been set to lock mode.
2. Pull down the restraint until the green light is lit.
3. Keep holding onto the restraint and allow it to rise very slowly while
watching the green light indicator for the restraint.
4. Note the restraint position when the green light goes out. (The bottom of
the restraint will probably be about three inches off the lap before the
green light goes out.)
5. Let the restraint go all the way back up.
6. Pull down the restraint just past the point where the green light went
out.
Result:
No green light.
Also, the green light position is exactly the same when the restraints are
actually set to lock mode--except that the restraint will not go up once
pulled down to the green light.
Iain Hendry
> Whatever it is, the green light has some very odd behavior. Try this out
for
> yourselves if you do fit the restraints to get a green light...
>
> Steps:
> 1. Make sure the restraints have not yet been set to lock mode.
> 2. Pull down the restraint until the green light is lit.
> 3. Keep holding onto the restraint and allow it to rise very slowly while
> watching the green light indicator for the restraint.
> 4. Note the restraint position when the green light goes out. (The bottom
of
> the restraint will probably be about three inches off the lap before the
> green light goes out.)
> 5. Let the restraint go all the way back up.
> 6. Pull down the restraint just past the point where the green light went
> out.
>
> Result:
> No green light.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Hysterisis :) Perfectly normal (and
desired, from a programming standpoint) operation of a sensor. Without
hysterisis (the "distance" between a sensor reading high and low, depending
on the direction you aproach the target), you reach a zone of uncertainty
where you could possibly have the sensor going nuts trying to figure out if
it's suposed to be on or off.
Iain
C. Montgomery Burns
> Iain, remember the Gimli Glider? In the 1970's an Air Canada 747 ran out of
> fuel and did a successful dead stick landing at Gimli, NW of Winnipeg.
> They'd just switched to metric and didn't put enough fuel on board!
>
> Roz
It was a 767 in the 80s (July 23, 1983).
C. Montgomery Burns
Ted Ansley
It was good TV movie...I know...good and TV movie don't coincide, but it was ok
for a TV movie. I think Rober Urich starred as one of the pilots.
Sandy A. Nicolaysen
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>
>>rstev...@aol.comouttake (RSteven850) wrote in message news:<20040110143825...@mb-m23.aol.com>...
>>
>>> Iain, remember the Gimli Glider? In the 1970's an Air Canada 747 ran out of
>>> fuel and did a successful dead stick landing at Gimli, NW of Winnipeg.
>>> They'd just switched to metric and didn't put enough fuel on board!
>>>
>>> Roz
>>
>>It was a 767 in the 80s (July 23, 1983).
>>
>>C. Montgomery Burns
>
>It was good TV movie...I know...good and TV movie don't coincide, but it was ok
>for a TV movie. I think Rober Urich starred as one of the pilots.
>
Wow. I had no idea Robert Ulrich was ever in the movies!
- Sandy "was that a typo?" Nicolaysen