Douglas Weiland - Killed. (Jeep hits curbing gutter)
Tom Klemesrud
Rod Keller wrote:
>
> I can set to rest all the talk about exploding gas stations. Here's the
> brief description of the accident.
>
> OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER DISTRICT SIX
> REPORT OF AUTPOPSY
>
> NAME - WEIGAND, Douglas CASE N0. - 1950205
> CASE HISTORY
>
> This 42 year old white male was apparently the driver and sole occupant of
> an opened 1979 Jeep. He was traveling south bound into the entrance of the
> Clearwater Mall (20505 US 19) when he struck a curb, with the Jeep rolling
> over on its side rolling onto the grass and rolling onto the roadway again
> coming to rest on top of Douglas. (Head and chest were under the Jeep).
> The accident occurred at 0219 hours and he was pronounced at 0220 hours.
> As far as the police could see he was not wearing a seatbelt and no
> charges are pending.
>
> MHH: dlc
What is the date of the incident? What was this guy's area of
expertise? Where did he work? Who collected his personal
possessions? Any previous addresses? Was he related to
convicted "Snow White" Felon Richard Weigand, or the convicted
blackmailer of Senator Thomas Eagleton, Elizabeth "Libby" Weigand?
It's curious that accident happend at 02:19 and he was pronounced
dead of suffication at 2:20, after an "all terraine vehicle" hit a
curb the evening after the raid of Anon.penet.fi and after the storming
of Caltech looking for the real identity of t...@alumni.caltech.edu.
(-AB-) lived at INCOMM. I wonder if Weigand lived around there, or
knew "-AB-" or anyone at INCOMM?
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Rod Keller
Tom Klemesrud (tom...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Rod Keller wrote:
: > This 42 year old white male was apparently the driver and sole occupant of
: > an opened 1979 Jeep. He was traveling south bound into the entrance of the
: > Clearwater Mall (20505 US 19) when he struck a curb, with the Jeep rolling
: > over on its side rolling onto the grass and rolling onto the roadway again
: > coming to rest on top of Douglas. (Head and chest were under the Jeep).
: > The accident occurred at 0219 hours and he was pronounced at 0220 hours.
: > As far as the police could see he was not wearing a seatbelt and no
: > charges are pending.
: What is the date of the incident? What was this guy's area of
: expertise? Where did he work? Who collected his personal
: possessions? Any previous addresses? Was he related to
: convicted "Snow White" Felon Richard Weigand, or the convicted
: blackmailer of Senator Thomas Eagleton, Elizabeth "Libby" Weigand?
Date of incident was Feb 9th, 1995. I'll post some more about him, since
there is interest in the incident. I don't have all the information listed
above, however. Perhaps somebody who blew Flag since then can answer
better.
--
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Rod Keller
Here's the investigative report on Douglas Weiland. The toxicology and
autopsy reports are scanned and available on the web.
http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/7959/autopsy.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/7959/tox.jpg
I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know how drunk 0.14
gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
----------------------------------------------
INVESTIGATIVE FOLLOWUP
Name - WEIGAND, Douglas
ME- 1950205 Invest Agency Case # 95-03247
DOD- Feb. 1995 Dr. Hansen
0354 hours 2-9-95
TC from Lt. Becker, CPD requesting transport to scene of A/A at the
Clearwater Mall (20505 US 19). Dec. is a W/M in his 40's who was the
driver of an open 1979 Jeep. He apparently was traveling southbound into
the entrance of the Mall and struck a curb. The Jeep rolled over on its
side, then rolled onto the grass and then rolled onto the roadway again
coming to rest on top of dec. (His head and chest were under Jeep) He was
pronounced at the scene at 0220 hours. The accident occurred at 0219
hours. He was not wearing a seatbelt as far as the police can see. Police
have a tentative address in Clearwater for the deceased but his driver's
license gives address in California. NO CHARGES No NOK known vet.
Transport at 0405 hours
jan
0645 hours 2-9-95
TC from Officer Kinchen who says he notified a cousin-in-law, Libby
Weigand, who lives at the Seville Blvd address and she will notify the
parents in California. Dec. was not married. Dec. is a Scientologist who
visits Clearwater several times a year and also has some kind of pager
business in Clearwater. Officer did not have parents name or phone
number.
jan
2/9/95 0900 hrs
TC from a friend of Libby Weigand asking what needs to be done at this
point. I asked if Dougls parents were still living and was told that he
father is dec and his mother, Pat Weigand lives in Fall City, Nebraska.
There is a sister, Kathy Weigand enroute to FL. and they think that she,
Kathy, has notified the mother of the death. Libby does not have an
address or phone # for Pat.
msr
2/9/95 1000 hrs
TC from Patricia Weigand, mother of the dec, stating that Doug's sister
Kathy is coming to Florida to make cremation arrangements. Pat is in total
agreement with whatever arrangements are made by Kathy. I then got her
address and phone #. she also gave her work # xxx-xxx-xxxx and said she
would probably be at work the rest of the day. She was doing better at
work being with people then she would be at home by herself. I then asked
if she had any objections to my giving her # to Life Link of Florida to
talk to her about organ donation. She asked that I give her an hour or so
before they call her back as she wants to try to get in touch with her
daughters. I told her that this was fine and would relay this information
to Life Link. I then called Becky and gave her the above information. She
will get back with us as to the decision the family has made.
msr
2-10-95 0838
TC to CPD Pat, Records, requested copy of report.
jsc
2-10-95 1143
TC fo CPDI left message for Officer Kinchen to can Julie ref photos of the
accident scene.
jsc
2-13-95 09:00 hrs
T.C. to Sgt. Teunis, stated he didn't think the photos would be back yet
but he would check on this and also make sure they were sent to MEO when
completed.
jt
Tom Klemesrud
Rod Keller (rke...@netaxs.com) wrote:
: Here's the investigative report on Douglas Weiland. The toxicology and
: autopsy reports are scanned and available on the web.
: http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/7959/autopsy.jpg
: http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/7959/tox.jpg
: I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know how drunk 0.14
: gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
: ----------------------------------------------
: INVESTIGATIVE FOLLOWUP
: Name - WEIGAND, Douglas
: ME- 1950205 Invest Agency Case # 95-03247
: DOD- Feb. 1995 Dr. Hansen
: 0354 hours 2-9-95
: TC from Lt. Becker, CPD requesting transport to scene of A/A at the
: Clearwater Mall (20505 US 19). Dec. is a W/M in his 40's who was the
: driver of an open 1979 Jeep. He apparently was traveling southbound into
: the entrance of the Mall and struck a curb. The Jeep rolled over on its
: side, then rolled onto the grass and then rolled onto the roadway again
: coming to rest on top of dec. (His head and chest were under Jeep) He was
: pronounced at the scene at 0220 hours. The accident occurred at 0219
: hours. He was not wearing a seatbelt as far as the police can see. Police
: have a tentative address in Clearwater for the deceased but his driver's
: license gives address in California.
The California address may have been the mail drop across the street
from INCOMM--where "(-AB-)" lived and worked--at 4806 Fountain Ave. Los
Angeles, CA., on the Southeast corner of L. Ron Hubbard Way and Fountain
Avenue. INCOMM is located at 4833 Fountain Avenue--on the Northwest
corner of L. Ron Hubbard Way and Fountain Avenue.
:NO CHARGES No NOK known vet.
: Transport at 0405 hours
: jan
: 0645 hours 2-9-95
: TC from Officer Kinchen who says he notified a cousin-in-law, Libby
: Weigand, who lives at the Seville Blvd address and she will notify the
: parents in California. Dec. was not married. Dec. is a Scientologist who
: visits Clearwater several times a year and also has some kind of pager
: business in Clearwater. Officer did not have parents name or phone
: number.
: jan
: 2/9/95 0900 hrs
: TC from a friend of Libby Weigand asking what needs to be done at this
: point.
Libby Weigand is Elizabeth Eagleton Weigand. She is the niece of Senator
Thomas F. Eagleton, Vice Presidential Candidate with George McGovern in
1972--until it was revealed that Eagleton had been treated for depression
with Electroshock Therapy (ECT). Eagleton was dropped as McGovern's
running mate--replaced by Shriver. Elizabeth Eagleton Weigand was later
convicted--in a case that went all the way to the Supreme Court--for
extortion of Senator Eagleton.
: I asked if Dougls parents were still living and was told that he
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
PS: The LA Times really dropped the ball on this one ... Geesshh what
screw-ups ;)
Tilman Hausherr
>I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know how drunk 0.14
>gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
What is the number for the limit in the US? In Germany it it 0.8 per
thousand. (although if you crash, you'll be in trouble if you're over
0.3) Sadly I don't know what unit is used. <hic>
John Abler
It varies from state to state, but most are .10 percent. That is to be
considered intoxicated. You are considered to be under the influence
at a level of .05%. Grams per liter of breath if I remember right.
John
Warrior
In article <tomklemE...@netcom.com>, tom...@netcom.com says...
>
>Rod Keller (rke...@netaxs.com) wrote:
>: Here's the investigative report on Douglas Weiland. The toxicology and
>: autopsy reports are scanned and available on the web.
>: http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/7959/autopsy.jpg
>: http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/7959/tox.jpg
>
>: gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
>
>
>: INVESTIGATIVE FOLLOWUP
>: Name - WEIGAND, Douglas
>: ME- 1950205 Invest Agency Case # 95-03247
>: DOD- Feb. 1995 Dr. Hansen
>
>: 0354 hours 2-9-95
>: TC from Lt. Becker, CPD requesting transport to scene of A/A at the
>: Clearwater Mall (20505 US 19). Dec. is a W/M in his 40's who was the
>: driver of an open 1979 Jeep. He apparently was traveling southbound into
>: the entrance of the Mall and struck a curb. The Jeep rolled over on its
>: side, then rolled onto the grass and then rolled onto the roadway again
>: coming to rest on top of dec. (His head and chest were under Jeep) He was
>: pronounced at the scene at 0220 hours. The accident occurred at 0219
>: hours. He was not wearing a seatbelt as far as the police can see. Police
>: have a tentative address in Clearwater for the deceased but his driver's
>: license gives address in California.
>
>The California address may have been the mail drop across the street
>from INCOMM--where "(-AB-)" lived and worked--at 4806 Fountain Ave. Los
>Angeles, CA., on the Southeast corner of L. Ron Hubbard Way and Fountain
>Avenue.
married couples. Is this location (4806) right next to the parking
structure, and just east of N. New Hampshire?
>INCOMM is located at 4833 Fountain Avenue--on the Northwest
>corner of L. Ron Hubbard Way and Fountain Avenue.
4833 Fountain Ave is the address for the Main Building (which
is 'V'-shaped and has the huge "Scientology" sign and cross on top of
it. INCOMM has been in there for at least 15 years.
FOLOWUS' address also was (is still?) 4833 Fountain Ave.
Warrior
roger gonnet
> 0.14
> >gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
>
> thousand. (although if you crash, you'll be in trouble if you're over
> 0.3) Sadly I don't know what unit is used. <hic>
In france; it's 0,5g/l; so, O,14g/dl would give 1,4g/l. Bit black;
around 1,2 liter wine, or 3 mass in germany (sorry, do not have double
s)
R
Zenon Panoussis
Rod Keller wrote:
> I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know
> how drunk 0.14
> gm/dl is.
The legal limit in Europe varies between 0,2 and 0,5 ml/l.
0,14 g/dl is
equivalent to 2,0 ml/l. The guy was pretty drunk; somewhere
around
3 ml/l you begin to see pink elephants in the sky.
Z
--
oracle@everywhere: The ephemeral source of the eternal
truth...
Tom Klemesrud
Tilman Hausherr (til...@berlin.snafu.de) wrote:
: >I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know how drunk 0.14
: >gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
: What is the number for the limit in the US? In Germany it it 0.8 per
: thousand. (although if you crash, you'll be in trouble if you're over
: 0.3) Sadly I don't know what unit is used. <hic>
I believe you mean 0.08 Tilman. 0.14 would be like drinking four to five
beers in one hour for an average size person.
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Tilman Hausherr
In <33EBC4BC...@dodo.pp.se>, Zenon Panoussis <ora...@dodo.pp.se>
wrote:
>The legal limit in Europe varies between 0,2 and 0,5 ml/l.
>0,14 g/dl is equivalent to 2,0 ml/l. The guy was pretty drunk; somewhere
>around 3 ml/l you begin to see pink elephants in the sky.
So he made three mistakes:
1. He didn't respect the "don't drink and drive" rule
2. He didn't use his seat belt
3. His car didn't have a rollover thingie
--- Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
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Tilman Hausherr
In <5sghj1$lum$1...@mistletoe.srv.cs.cmu.edu>, d...@cs.cmu.edu (Dave
Touretzky) wrote:
>Douglas Weigand died in 1995. He was married to Elizabeth "Libby"
>Eagleton Weigend, who gained some notoriety in the 1980s when she was
>jailed for attempted extortion against her uncle, Senator Thomas
>Eagleton. She was trying to blackmail Eagleton into buying out her
>share of the family pipe business. The senator said publicly that he
>didn't want to do that because his niece would just give the money to
>Scientology.
>
>Douglas Weigand worked in Clearwater for a Scientologist-owned company
>called Digital Lightwave. When he died, his wife stepped in to fill
>his position. She is reportedly no longer with the company. It may
>be that my calling up the investment banker who was taking the company
>public and asking "Is it true that Digital Lightwave is employing a
>convicted felon as its Executive VP of Operations? Why isn't this
>disclosed in the SEC filings?" had something to do with this, although
>he claimed she was supposed to have already left by the time I called.
<giggle>
>(My understanding is that she hadn't left, but she did leave very soon
>thereafter.)
>
>Digital Lightwave's founder, Dr. Bryan Zwan, is a Scientologist, as
>are several other key employees. Their VP of Administration, Denise
>Licciardi, has an interesting maiden name: Miscavige. She's David's
>sister.
Ooooooooooooohhhhh !
>Digital Lightwave went public in January 1997; the ticker symbol is
>DIGL. They make computer network diagnostic equipment. Their web site
>is http://www.lightwave.com
Here the data from some time ago:
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Douglas Weigand died in 1995. He was married to Elizabeth "Libby"
Eagleton Weigend, who gained some notoriety in the 1980s when she was
jailed for attempted extortion against her uncle, Senator Thomas
Eagleton. She was trying to blackmail Eagleton into buying out her
share of the family pipe business. The senator said publicly that he
didn't want to do that because his niece would just give the money to
Scientology.
Douglas Weigand worked in Clearwater for a Scientologist-owned company
called Digital Lightwave. When he died, his wife stepped in to fill
his position. She is reportedly no longer with the company. It may
be that my calling up the investment banker who was taking the company
public and asking "Is it true that Digital Lightwave is employing a
convicted felon as its Executive VP of Operations? Why isn't this
disclosed in the SEC filings?" had something to do with this, although
he claimed she was supposed to have already left by the time I called.
(My understanding is that she hadn't left, but she did leave very soon
thereafter.)
Digital Lightwave's founder, Dr. Bryan Zwan, is a Scientologist, as
are several other key employees. Their VP of Administration, Denise
Licciardi, has an interesting maiden name: Miscavige. She's David's
sister.
Digital Lightwave went public in January 1997; the ticker symbol is
DIGL. They make computer network diagnostic equipment. Their web site
is http://www.lightwave.com
-- Dave Touretzky
Tom Klemesrud
Dave Touretzky (d...@cs.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Douglas Weigand died in 1995. He was married to Elizabeth "Libby"
: Eagleton Weigend, who gained some notoriety in the 1980s when she was
: jailed for attempted extortion against her uncle, Senator Thomas
: Eagleton. She was trying to blackmail Eagleton into buying out her
: share of the family pipe business. The senator said publicly that he
: didn't want to do that because his niece would just give the money to
: Scientology.
I believe that Douglas was not married to Libby, but was her cousin-
in-law. A relative, Richard Weigand, was one of the Scientologists
convicted of bugging, burglarizing, and infiltrating more than 100
government offices in the '70--commonly referred to as "Operation
Snow White."
: Douglas Weigand worked in Clearwater for a Scientologist-owned company
: called Digital Lightwave.
Digital Lightwave has an interesting address: One floor above the
Clearwater, Florida offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
(I guess the Clearwater bureau has their "eyes wide shut."
: When he died, his wife--[cousin-in-law]--stepped in to fill
: his position. She is reportedly no longer with the company. It may
: be that my calling up the investment banker who was taking the company
: public and asking "Is it true that Digital Lightwave is employing a
: convicted felon as its Executive VP of Operations? Why isn't this
: disclosed in the SEC filings?" had something to do with this, although
: he claimed she was supposed to have already left by the time I called.
: (My understanding is that she hadn't left, but she did leave very soon
: thereafter.)
: Digital Lightwave's founder, Dr. Bryan Zwan, is a Scientologist, as
: are several other key employees. Their VP of Administration, Denise
: Licciardi, has an interesting maiden name: Miscavige. She's David's
: sister.
This is something new to me. I am not sure of what kind of technology
Digital Lightwave is engaged in, but I suspect it is the same technology
that INCOMM uses to communicate from Hollywood to Hemet, to the worldwide
orgs. Recently SoundView Financial--a hight tech stock guru company,
that was first to notice an inverse "book-to-bill ratio" that sank the
price of most semiconductor companies a few years ago--recommended a buy
on Digital Lightwave (NASD:DIGL).
SEC filing can be found at:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/srch-edgar?Digital+AND+Lightwave
: Digital Lightwave went public in January 1997; the ticker symbol is
: DIGL. They make computer network diagnostic equipment. Their web site
: is http://www.lightwave.com
a few months ago Libby Weigand was listed as the Postm...@lightwave.com
by whois at telnet internic.net.
: -- Dave Touretzky
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Tilman Hausherr
>Douglas Weigand died in 1995. He was married to Elizabeth "Libby"
>Eagleton Weigend, who gained some notoriety in the 1980s when she was
>jailed for attempted extortion against her uncle, Senator Thomas
>Eagleton. She was trying to blackmail Eagleton into buying out her
>share of the family pipe business. The senator said publicly that he
>didn't want to do that because his niece would just give the money to
>Scientology.
>
>Douglas Weigand worked in Clearwater for a Scientologist-owned company
>called Digital Lightwave. When he died, his wife stepped in to fill
>his position. She is reportedly no longer with the company. It may
>be that my calling up the investment banker who was taking the company
>public and asking "Is it true that Digital Lightwave is employing a
>convicted felon as its Executive VP of Operations? Why isn't this
>disclosed in the SEC filings?" had something to do with this, although
>he claimed she was supposed to have already left by the time I called.
<giggle>
>(My understanding is that she hadn't left, but she did leave very soon
>thereafter.)
>
>Digital Lightwave's founder, Dr. Bryan Zwan, is a Scientologist, as
>are several other key employees. Their VP of Administration, Denise
>Licciardi, has an interesting maiden name: Miscavige. She's David's
>sister.
Ooooooooooooohhhhh !
>Digital Lightwave went public in January 1997; the ticker symbol is
>DIGL. They make computer network diagnostic equipment. Their web site
>is http://www.lightwave.com
Here the data from some time ago:
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From: til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: clam sleuth on the web
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 10:37:01 GMT
http://www.lightwave.com
Digital Lightwave, Inc
from the SEC forms (available at
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/srch-edgar?lightwave )
Bryan J. Zwan Chairman of the Board,
Chief Executive Officer,
President,
Director,
Commodore
$100,000 IAS donation
Elizabeth W. Weigand former Executive Vice President -- Operations
is this Elizabeth *Eagleton* Weigand ????
(left before they introduced their stocks)
Douglas Kent Weigand worked there also before he died in his "one car
accident" in a parking lot in 1995.
Kenneth Ted Myers Vice President--Advanced Products
$40,000 IAS donation
Denise Licciardi Vice President--Administration
WISE member, $40,000 IAS donation
Robert Goransson Vice President--Qualifications
$20,000 IAS donation
Doug C. Dohring former Director
WISE big guy & $40,000 donation to the IAS
They have introduced stocks, and raised huge amounts of $$$
---
"Keep kwiet. Ksenu's kracking klam klusters."
Tilman Hausherr
> In france; it's 0,5g/l; so, O,14g/dl would give 1,4g/l. Bit black;
>around 1,2 liter wine, or 3 mass in germany (sorry, do not have double
>s)
Oh-oh. 3 mass = 3 Liter and that's quite a lot. 1 bottle of beer is
usually 1/3L, even in the US, so it means Mr. Weigand had drinken about
9 beers before inserting the key. Maybe he tried Hubbard's method to get
sober ("touch that wall", etc).
--- Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos
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Martin Hunt
In article <tomklemE...@netcom.com>,
tom...@netcom.com (Tom Klemesrud) wrote:
>: Douglas Weigand worked in Clearwater for a Scientologist-owned company
>: called Digital Lightwave.
>
>Digital Lightwave has an interesting address: One floor above the
>Clearwater, Florida offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
>(I guess the Clearwater bureau has their "eyes wide shut."
You've got to be joking! Could someone in Clearwater please tell
the FBI that their offices are bugged by the Scientologists on the
floor above, and to sweep the offices?
Considering the cult's past behaviour in inflitration, eavesdropping,
and gaining access to confidential files, it's a bit shocking that
they are allowed in the same building as the FBI.
Who's the cleaning agency? Same for both? Are the cleaning staff for
the FBI offices Scientologists?
This isn't a case of black helicopters; Scientology has been convicted
after infiltrating and compromising various police forces and their
investigations in Canada, Germany, the USA, and possibly other
countries. They have infiltrated the St. Petersburg Times. They
have accessed on-going investigations into them.
The FBI had better have a night watchman, and they had better be
certain that none of their own staff are cult members. They had
better keep an eye on the cleaning staff, and replace the locks
on their doors. They would do well to move to a new building, and
they must sweep their own floor for bugs and hidden cameras. Let
me guess; the culties on the floor above operating under the
front "Digital Lightwave" have all kinds of electronic gadgets
up there "as a part of their business". Scientologists are
completely untrustworthy in this area. No wonder the FBI aren't
finding out about the murders in Clearwater - everything they
look into about the cult's activities is being quickly and
efficiently relayed back to the cult!
--
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Tom Klemesrud
Martin Hunt (mar...@islandnet.com) wrote:
: In article <tomklemE...@netcom.com>,
: tom...@netcom.com (Tom Klemesrud) wrote:
: >: Douglas Weigand worked in Clearwater for a Scientologist-owned company
: >: called Digital Lightwave.
: >
: >Digital Lightwave has an interesting address: One floor above the
: >Clearwater, Florida offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
: >(I guess the Clearwater bureau has their "eyes wide shut."
: You've got to be joking! Could someone in Clearwater please tell
: the FBI that their offices are bugged by the Scientologists on the
: floor above, and to sweep the offices?
: Considering the cult's past behaviour in inflitration, eavesdropping,
: and gaining access to confidential files, it's a bit shocking that
: they are allowed in the same building as the FBI.
Yes, and considering my messy house guest the evening of January 14th,
1995 asking about specific information I had shared in confidence with the
FBI; one has to wonder if this Cleveland Ave. office was the source of
the leak? That is why I called the FBI _first_, before 911 that night--
it was a breach of confidential information given to a Federal Special
Agent.
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Zenon Panoussis
Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> So he made three mistakes:
>
> 1. He didn't respect the "don't drink and drive" rule
> 2. He didn't use his seat belt
> 3. His car didn't have a rollover thingie
What does he care? He is recycled to a new life and he's
sure it will be better than the previous one. I can see
no mistake on his part.
Tom Klemesrud
Tilman Hausherr (til...@berlin.snafu.de) wrote:
: > In france; it's 0,5g/l; so, O,14g/dl would give 1,4g/l. Bit black;
: >around 1,2 liter wine, or 3 mass in germany (sorry, do not have double
: >s)
: Oh-oh. 3 mass = 3 Liter and that's quite a lot. 1 bottle of beer is
: usually 1/3L, even in the US, so it means Mr. Weigand had drinken about
: 9 beers before inserting the key. Maybe he tried Hubbard's method to get
: sober ("touch that wall", etc).
The body metabolism can absorb the achohol content of three beers per
hour without going over the .10 limit Tilman. It's more than physics--
its biology too. There is a time factor, and food factor.
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Tom Klemesrud
Warrior (war...@electrotex.com) wrote:
: Sorry. You're probably right. 4833 and 4851 are both part of the
: Main building in the Cedars Complex. I assume Chestnut Car Leasing
: is a joke. Or were you serious?
Serious. Although former IRS Commisioner Fred Goldberg Jr., and
Assistant to the Assistant IRS Commissioner Howard Schoenfeld, may have
insisted--in their secret backroom tax exemption deal with the criminal
cult--that the car leasing enterpise be moved out of the ecclesiastical
world headquarters. We should FOIA the IRS on this point. (They knew or
should have known.)
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Taniwha
Martin Hunt wrote:
>
> In article <tomklemE...@netcom.com>,
> tom...@netcom.com (Tom Klemesrud) wrote:
> >Digital Lightwave has an interesting address: One floor above the
> >Clearwater, Florida offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
> >(I guess the Clearwater bureau has their "eyes wide shut."
>
> You've got to be joking! Could someone in Clearwater please tell
> the FBI that their offices are bugged by the Scientologists on the
> floor above, and to sweep the offices?
forget that - I bet if they break down the doors they'll find
a whole host of clams listening with glasses to the floor ....
(real Elron '50s technology ...)
Taniwha
Perry Scott
Martin Hunt (mar...@islandnet.com) wrote:
: >Digital Lightwave has an interesting address: One floor above the
: >Clearwater, Florida offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
: >(I guess the Clearwater bureau has their "eyes wide shut."
: You've got to be joking! Could someone in Clearwater please tell
: the FBI that their offices are bugged by the Scientologists on the
: floor above, and to sweep the offices?
The FBI in Clearwater is aware of the situation.
Perry Scott
Co$ Escapee
Tom Klemesrud
Perry Scott (pe...@fc.hp.com) wrote:
: Martin Hunt (mar...@islandnet.com) wrote:
: Perry Scott
: Co$ Escapee
Perry, it's ironic: In the same Security Exchange Commission filing
--with all those Scientologist and/or Lawyer founders; in which they
forgot to mention that their Vice President of Operations was a convicted
felon for extorting a United States Senator--Hewlett Packard is mentioned
as the company's "competition."
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/srch-edgar?Digital+AND+Lightwave
Tom Klemesrud SP6
KoX
Martin Hunt
>Perry, it's ironic: In the same Security Exchange Commission filing
>--with all those Scientologist and/or Lawyer founders; in which they
>forgot to mention that their Vice President of Operations was a convicted
>felon for extorting a United States Senator--Hewlett Packard is mentioned
>as the company's "competition."
>
>http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/srch-edgar?Digital+AND+Lightwave
I was going to post that filing, but it's 600kb and pretty messy.
It does have a lot of information for critics interested in the
Scientology company Digital Lightwave.
Cornelius Krasel
>
> : >I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know how drunk 0.14
> : >gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
>
> : What is the number for the limit in the US? In Germany it it 0.8 per
> : thousand. (although if you crash, you'll be in trouble if you're over
> : 0.3) Sadly I don't know what unit is used. <hic>
>
> I believe you mean 0.08 Tilman. 0.14 would be like drinking four to five
> beers in one hour for an average size person.
In the U.S. the limits are given in percent (i.e. per hundred). In
Germany, limits are in promille (i.e. per thousand, see Tilman's
posting). 0.8 promille is 0.08 percent.
--Cornelius.
--
/* Cornelius Krasel, U Wuerzburg, Dept. of Pharmacology, Versbacher Str. 9 */
/* D-97078 Wuerzburg, Germany email: pha...@rzbox.uni-wuerzburg.de SP3 */
/* "Science is the game we play with God to find out what His rules are." */
Cornelius Krasel
The liver can metabolize about 0.1 promille (i.e. 0.01 percent) per
hour in whites (the same enzyme in asians is less effective; that's
why japanese people get drunk easier).
Food slows down the alcohol absorption from the gut.
Rolf Elak
In <342189e8...@news.snafu.de> til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) writes:
>In <5sfnl4$4...@netaxs.com>, rke...@netaxs.com (Rod Keller) wrote:
>>I missed the first time that Doug was drunk. I don't know how drunk 0.14
>>gm/dl is. Also, I deleted a home phone number from the report below.
>What is the number for the limit in the US? In Germany it it 0.8 per
>thousand. (although if you crash, you'll be in trouble if you're over
>0.3) Sadly I don't know what unit is used. <hic>
promille (per thousand)
0.8 promille is 0.08 percent alcohol in blood, thought I don't know if
its weight percent or or volume percent ...
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SaffronMon
>>: Scientologist-owned company
>>: called Digital Lightwave.
>>
>> above the Clearwater, Florida offices of the Federal
>> Bureau of Investigation. (I guess the Clearwater bureau
>> has their "eyes wide shut."
They are supposed to be requesting restrictive covenants
on real estate they happen to lease, perhaps? I'm sure
everyone is aware that Jews have long been allowed to
lease any property on the market for some decades now,
so the idea of restricitive covenants on real estate
transactions based on creed is dead. Given this, exactly
what is the FBI to be faulted for? Should they be getting
court orders to restrict what members of some creed
can do in the way of leasing?
> mar...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
>You've got to be joking! Could someone in Clearwater please
> tell the FBI that their offices are bugged by the Scientologists
> on the floor above, and to sweep the offices?
It's odd that you report as fact your surmise.
Federal government offices dealing in sensitive matters are swept for bugs
routinely. There's no reason to do so specially just because a company
containing Scientologists is located nearby.
Naturally this report motivates no illegal activities against some
business merely because it is populated by people of a certain
creed. It's a mystery why someone would think otherwise.
If you hear of a Scientologist populated company involved in
*electromagnetic environmental pollution monitoring*, you have
occassion to be concerned. That uses equipment ideal for
picking up stray signal intelligence. A mere telecomm company
is not necessarily equipped for picking up stray signal information. And
WITHIN the same building is NOT necessarily the best place to pick up
stray signals anyhow - this is best done
outside a building. Only acoustic monitoring is best done within a
building. The FBI would have to have extremely inadequate space purchased
for their use to allow that.
>Considering the cult's past behaviour in inflitration,
> eavesdropping, and gaining access to confidential files,
> it's a bit shocking that
>they are allowed in the same building as the FBI.
*Considering the state of Israels prior infiltration of the US
intelligence community, and as well its intentional destruction of a
naval intelligence ship of the US with intentional murder of its crew,
it's a bit shocking that Jews are allowed in the same building as the
FBI.* Do you see the connection? It's stupid to say people of a certain
creed can't locate themselves in a place anyone else might be entitled to
locate themselves because there is a prominent entity associated with that
creed that did something objectionable in the past.
By the way, do I get to walk down the same street as an FBI
agent? What are the rules on this? Do I get to go into a park where dogs
are allowed, or is the rule *No Scientologists or dogs* applicable
automatically, and so I should understand what the *no dogs* sign says
automatically? And what about working for the phone company? Am I barred
from employment there?
Should I be disbarred, perhaps, if I'm a Scientologist and as well am
appointed an officer of the court?
>... they had better be
>certain that none of their own staff are cult members.
Maybe you've never heard of this US law, but I'm sure the FBI has:
discrimination based on creed is illegal. It is ILLEGAL to deny FBI
employment to an otherwise qualified person because they profess the
religion called Scientology.
>No wonder the FBI aren't
>finding out about the murders in Clearwater - everything they
>look into about the cult's activities is being quickly and
>efficiently relayed back to the cult!
Yes. I admit. You've stumbled onto the deeeeeeep secret that is embodied
in the document *The Protocol of the Elders of
St. Hill*. Eeeeks - soon you'll be disclosing the blood sacrifice too!
No you no longer need worry that you are reporting as fact incredible
surmise.
Oh what dreadful days with minds like this on our tail.
Saffy
-- Sweetie Darling, would you like a 200 MHz model to cruise the
dirty picture newsgroups with? Hmmm? My treat. --
Martin Hunt
In article <19970824055...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
saffr...@aol.com (SaffronMon) wrote:
>It's odd that you report as fact your surmise.
Eh? Care to cite, or just make anonymous accusations? I thought so.
So, what's Digital Lightwave like, then? Is ethics applied?
Conditions formulas? You can tell us.
>Federal government offices dealing in sensitive matters are swept for bugs
>routinely. There's no reason to do so specially just because a company
>containing Scientologists is located nearby.
ROFL!
You know nothing about Scientology, my friend.
--
Cogito, ergo sum. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/1332
"People who would aspire to transform the world should start by
transforming their own life and let it serve as an inspiration for
others. Hubbard wrote best about what he most needed to learn."
- Joe Harrington <joe...@worldnet.att.net>
John A
>
> So, what's Digital Lightwave like, then? Is ethics applied?
> Conditions formulas? You can tell us.
>
> >Federal government offices dealing in sensitive matters are swept for bugs
> >routinely. There's no reason to do so specially just because a company
> >containing Scientologists is located nearby.
Maybe the FBI is interested in Digital Lightwave.
John