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kable-kai

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Jan 20, 2004, 4:47:40 AM1/20/04
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Hi there all.

Lots of people (myself included) like to train...but often... life gets in
the way..and there seems to be an never ending stream of obstacles to
training.

Working late....Distance to the training
facility....Family....Friends....Too Tired....Too Sore....Etc...Etc....

I guess the simple answer is to just do it....But Do you guys have training
you do in your spare time...when you simply can't get to the Kwoon/Gym ?


Kirk Lawson

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Jan 20, 2004, 9:17:21 AM1/20/04
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No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people. There's
no real commitment that way. What you need is some way that makes you
literally "committed" to being there, *responsible* in a way that's
meaningful to you. IOW, if you *don't* go you feel like you are
punished or lose something important to you. Being financially
committed is frequently good. If you feel like you're losing money if
you don't show, you'll go. But probably the best way is to have at
least one friend who is also committed and you mutually commit to each
other. That way if you don't show you know your friend is gonna call
you up and go, "hey loser! Where *WERE* you?!?!" That's been proven to
be the best motivator for the majority of people.

Well, sex works pretty good too, but it's *hard* to tie that sort of
reward in.

Peace favor your sword (IH)
--
"In these modern times, many men are wounded for not having weapons or
knowledge of their use."
-Achille Marozzo, 1536
--
"...it's the nature of the media and the participants. A herd of martial
artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts

"v" here]downing@charter.net Mark Downing

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Heavy bag.


Badger South

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:30:04 AM1/20/04
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:17:21 -0500, Kirk Lawson
<lklawson_...@heapy.com> wrote:

>kable-kai wrote:
>>
>> Hi there all.
>>
>> Lots of people (myself included) like to train...but often... life gets in
>> the way..and there seems to be an never ending stream of obstacles to
>> training.
>>
>> Working late....Distance to the training
>> facility....Family....Friends....Too Tired....Too Sore....Etc...Etc....
>>
>> I guess the simple answer is to just do it....But Do you guys have training
>> you do in your spare time...when you simply can't get to the Kwoon/Gym ?
>
>No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people. There's
>no real commitment that way. What you need is some way that makes you
>literally "committed" to being there, *responsible* in a way that's
>meaningful to you.

Man that's harder to find (a committed training partner) than
motivation, IMO.

What works for me is to be committed to the lifestyle on several
synergistic levels:

1. Diet - eat right, don't overload your system, drink plenty of
water, don't eat processed foods, no sugar (get Splenda), limit white
carbs, do your own shopping. I learned this when I was living alone
after being married for many years, during which the wife did the
shopping.

Pre-make up some of your meals. Make two steaks and cut the second one
into chunks and store in a baggie. Microwave the next day. I
personally make up double portions of my protein meal - eggs, burger,
fish, etc. That way if I get hungry for some junk food, I don't have
to give in. I've got that great baggie of steak to eat. Same with
veggies - (BTW, raw carrots are not hi glycemic - it's the cooked
ones). I eat a lot of salmon, and prepackage it so I can microwave.

Tip - get some cold pressed High lignen Flax oil. It really helps cut
the appetite. If I have off diet hunger pangs, I swig two mouthfulls
from the bottle and in about 5 min, I'm feeling great - in fact works
best on a nearly empty stomach. (Keep it in the fridge - it goes
rancid quickly).

Did I mention drinking lots of water? ;-)

Supermarkets are arranged like this - Real food - around the
sides/walls/edges of the store. Fake food in the center. Check it out
next time you shop - it's a hoot!

2. Supplements - get your vitamins and prepackage them in little
baggies with ziplock tops. Some people like storing the vitamin
bottles on the top of the dresser and unscrewing all those caps, but
for me, I can grab two little baggies with my 20 caps and tabs and
head off to wherever. If you leave them in the bottles it increase the
thought needed to get out the pills, takes a lot of time, and
increases the chances you just skip it or forget it.

Then when I eat breakfast or lunch, I just gulp 'em with my milk...er,
ah, beer. ;-)

I won't go into my Low Carb Diet rant here. <applause> ;->

3. Clothing - I have my special workout togs. For example before my
biking workout, I put on my spandex and cape...^H ^H ^H ^H ^H, I mean
biking shorts and top, my bike shoes and I start feeling like a biker.
Then it's 'well, I'm dressed for it, and will feel like a fool if I
just sit here and don't go bike'.

4. Motivational media - get the mags (or if you're poor steal 'em from
the library..j/k), watch the shows, put up posters in your room, write
in black magic marker on your bathroom mirror "I'm a lean, mean,
fightin' machine" and put an arrow to point to your head. ;-)

5. Think positive thoughts - put up slogans when you feel great, write
in a journal, keep a Blog on the web.

6. In addition, keep a training log. If you're lifting, have a
notebook in the guy to write down your sets and reps. On the mat,
write down what you learned after you're done training. In fact one
trick I use to be sure and bike every day is keep an Excel
spreadsheet. The thought of leaving a blank space for that day on my
spreadsheet is just nearly impossible. That fact alone is responsible
for getting me out there in the rain, sleet, snow, gray day, sunny
day, roasting, etc. The only days I've missed are a couple when the
trail was under 4 feet of water, and even then I walked down with the
bike and tried to think of a way to do it.

7. Speaking of beer - limit your vices. Make it a special occasion to
have that celebration. If you feel the urge, drink two large glasses
of water. Then you won't feel like popping that beer so much.

So in summary, if you're doing two of these things right, it increases
the urge to do more things right. Soon you have a virtual
constellation of stuff you're doing and it really becomes easy to stay
on track.

OK, so this is just dumb and I'm O/C. Someone may be helped so
apologies in advance. ;-p

HTH
-B

Chas

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:38:24 AM1/20/04
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"kable-kai" <kabl...@hotmail.com> wrote
>.....But Do you guys have training

> you do in your spare time...when you simply can't get to the Kwoon/Gym ?

Yes; they're called 'kata'; solo drills that allow you to practice your
martial art when you're by yourself.
Whatever it is you do in class, or with your training partner, there are
times that you'll be alone and want to practice something useful to your
martial skill.

Chas


Grappler240

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:47:37 AM1/20/04
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>What works for me is to be committed to the lifestyle on several
>synergistic levels:

snippage:

great stuff, man. Great post.

I do alot of the same things.

-g

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Kirk Lawson

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:57:59 AM1/20/04
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Badger South wrote:

> >No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people. There's
> >no real commitment that way. What you need is some way that makes you
> >literally "committed" to being there, *responsible* in a way that's
> >meaningful to you.
>
> Man that's harder to find (a committed training partner) than
> motivation, IMO.

Depends on who/what and when/where. It's not altogether uncommon for
friends to sit around moaning and groaning to eachother how they'd like
to get in better shape or they'd like to go take martial arts. I agree
that you can't *count* on finding a partner, but doing so tends to be
the best motivation for the majority. When you're obligated to someone
you've got the whole guilt/peer-pressure thing going on.

> Tip - get some cold pressed High lignen Flax oil. It really helps cut
> the appetite. If I have off diet hunger pangs, I swig two mouthfulls
> from the bottle and in about 5 min, I'm feeling great - in fact works
> best on a nearly empty stomach. (Keep it in the fridge - it goes
> rancid quickly).

What's it *taste* like?

[snip lots of good stuff]

Well geewiz. If we're gonna talk a whole program then you can't forget:

8) Set goals - have short term, middle length, and long term goals. The
shorter goals should be "stair steps" to help you achieve your longer
term goals. i.e.: long-term - increase chest size by 2", middle-term -
bench x lbs. sets by March, short-term - bench x-y 3 sets of 10 three
times a week on M/W/F. Make sure the goals are challenging but
achievable. Find small ways to reward yourself for achieving goals
without "breaking training." The bigger the goal achieved, the greater
the reward.

9)...

Dan Winsor

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:59:43 AM1/20/04
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Badger South wrote:

> OK, so this is just dumb and I'm O/C. Someone may be helped so
> apologies in advance. ;-p

Good stuff, no apologies necessary. In addition I'd like to add a
tip that works for me - don't leave yourself any choice. e.g. I work
for a computer company that has a gym on site. So the night before, I
pack my gym bag with my clothes for the next day and leave out my
workout clothes. I get up, throw on my sweats, and go to work. This
way, if I want to actually be in the presence of people at the office
(which I generally don't, but that's another story), I need to at least
hit the gym to shower and change. So I then at least have to put in
a workout before showering and, voila, the whole, "do I really want
to do this today?" question is removed.
I've known guys who put their housekeys in their gym bag under their
judogis on their way to work. If they try to skip class and go home
after work, they get so guilty about moving their gi out of the way to
get their keys they don't do that again. etc. YMMV.


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Badger South

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Jan 20, 2004, 11:53:38 AM1/20/04
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:57:59 -0500, Kirk Lawson
<lklawson_...@heapy.com> wrote:

>Badger South wrote:
>
>> >No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people. There's
>> >no real commitment that way. What you need is some way that makes you
>> >literally "committed" to being there, *responsible* in a way that's
>> >meaningful to you.
>>
>> Man that's harder to find (a committed training partner) than
>> motivation, IMO.
>
>Depends on who/what and when/where. It's not altogether uncommon for
>friends to sit around moaning and groaning to eachother how they'd like
>to get in better shape or they'd like to go take martial arts. I agree
>that you can't *count* on finding a partner, but doing so tends to be
>the best motivation for the majority. When you're obligated to someone
>you've got the whole guilt/peer-pressure thing going on.

The best training partner? A committed female runner or biker, who is
in slightly better shape than you are. Don't mess it up by getting
'involved', though.

>> Tip - get some cold pressed High lignen Flax oil. It really helps cut
>> the appetite. If I have off diet hunger pangs, I swig two mouthfulls
>> from the bottle and in about 5 min, I'm feeling great - in fact works
>> best on a nearly empty stomach. (Keep it in the fridge - it goes
>> rancid quickly).
>
>What's it *taste* like?

The stuff I get is basically tasteless, although you know it's oil. If
it tastes bad it's rancid. It must be kept in a fridge at the Heath
Food store, and it must be fresh, transported cold. SOme people dump
some caps of Vit E in the bottle when it's first opened to aid
preservation. I could look up the actual brand if you like. It comes
in a black bottle with red writing.

>8) Set goals - have short term, middle length, and long term goals. The
>shorter goals should be "stair steps" to help you achieve your longer
>term goals. i.e.: long-term - increase chest size by 2", middle-term -
>bench x lbs. sets by March, short-term - bench x-y 3 sets of 10 three
>times a week on M/W/F. Make sure the goals are challenging but
>achievable. Find small ways to reward yourself for achieving goals
>without "breaking training." The bigger the goal achieved, the greater
>the reward.

One goal which will work well for some, with one caveat - enter a
contest. For a runner, 10K races are ubiquitous - plus -TShirt. For
bikers, there are half-century and century rides. For MA there's
tournaments. You don't have to win, you just have to go and try it.
The caveat? Be careful, b/c sometimes you push so much during the
'event' that you get off your training cycle and end up not training
for a week. This is dangerous to your mental and physical health! <g>
Seriously, -make- it a point to get in an easy run or bike the next
day - it help soreness, etc. Just as you taper for the event, taper
back up after. One tip is to schedule a fun event like a hike where
you'll be with friends and it won't seem like a workout. Staleness is
a big problem for those training hard, and you have to find your own
way to deal with it; cross training is a big help - hell enter an
event you don't normally do, counting on your conditioning in your
chosen sport.

9)..REST - One thing that's neglected in training is getting plenty of
rest. It's hard to do but here's some tips. Get in a couple of
20-45min catnaps during the day if at all possible. It can be as
simple as going outside for lunch and lying in the sun with a little
alarm clock. If you can get another just after work. This can help
make up any sleep deficit - however you can't really make up lost
sleep - yada-yada about REM sleep and deep sleep, etc.

10) Sunshine. Get lots of it.

11) Play - make your workouts more like play - use music, envision
yourself as your hero...One fun thing I like to do is called
'stranding'. I have someone drive me 10-15 miles from home and I have
to jog home. (you can carry a cellphone for emergencies). I try to add
5 miles to the distance I think I can cover during a training phase so
I'll go into survival mode every once in a while - you can pre-exhaust
to get to survival mode quicker (be creative). It's important to dig
deep now and then, IMO.

12) Take training pictures! My wife was into photography and took lots
of snaps of me in races, on training runs

13) Do your own exploration. Don't take anyone else's advice or
opinion for gospel. Research, research, research, then DO it! ;-)

Sorry for being so long-winded today. ;-/

-B

Badger North

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Jan 20, 2004, 11:49:26 AM1/20/04
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:38:24 -0700, "Chas"
<chasclem...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Yes; they're called 'kata'; solo drills that allow you to practice your
>martial art when you're by yourself.

My wife gets a little testy because I'm *always* doing a little
shadow-boxing. When she wants to talk at me, a moving target is too
much work.

Kirk Lawson

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Badger South wrote:

> Sorry for being so long-winded today. ;-/

Are you kidding?

The only rule you're breaking is the Official RMA rule against posting
useful content.

By the way, because of repeated infractions you're going to be black
balled. Turn in your decoder ring, ninja tabbi, and "I Know the Death
Touch!" T-Shirt.

Jacob Andersen

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"Badger South" <Bad...@South.com> wrote in message
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good post

/Jacob


Jacob Andersen

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Jan 20, 2004, 1:06:11 PM1/20/04
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"Kirk Lawson" <lklawson_...@heapy.com> wrote in message
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> Badger South wrote:
>
> > >No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people. There's
> > >no real commitment that way. What you need is some way that makes you
> > >literally "committed" to being there, *responsible* in a way that's
> > >meaningful to you.
> >
> > Man that's harder to find (a committed training partner) than
> > motivation, IMO.
>
> Depends on who/what and when/where. It's not altogether uncommon for
> friends to sit around moaning and groaning to eachother how they'd like
> to get in better shape or they'd like to go take martial arts. I agree
> that you can't *count* on finding a partner, but doing so tends to be
> the best motivation for the majority. When you're obligated to someone
> you've got the whole guilt/peer-pressure thing going on.

The BIG problem with this approach is that that pressure becomes the reason
you go, and if your partner eventually chickens out you'll be likely to do
the same. I have had this happen several times, both with weights and MA.
I've been far more successful when I have been my own motivation.

> > Tip - get some cold pressed High lignen Flax oil. It really helps cut
> > the appetite. If I have off diet hunger pangs, I swig two mouthfulls
> > from the bottle and in about 5 min, I'm feeling great - in fact works
> > best on a nearly empty stomach. (Keep it in the fridge - it goes
> > rancid quickly).
>
> What's it *taste* like?
>
> [snip lots of good stuff]
>
> Well geewiz. If we're gonna talk a whole program then you can't forget:
>
> 8) Set goals - have short term, middle length, and long term goals. The
> shorter goals should be "stair steps" to help you achieve your longer
> term goals. i.e.: long-term - increase chest size by 2", middle-term -
> bench x lbs. sets by March, short-term - bench x-y 3 sets of 10 three
> times a week on M/W/F. Make sure the goals are challenging but
> achievable. Find small ways to reward yourself for achieving goals
> without "breaking training." The bigger the goal achieved, the greater
> the reward.

I suspect the goal setting might be inherent in the log keeping he
suggested.

/Jacob


Jacob Andersen

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Jan 20, 2004, 1:14:25 PM1/20/04
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"Badger South" <Bad...@South.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:57:59 -0500, Kirk Lawson
> <lklawson_...@heapy.com> wrote:
>
> >Badger South wrote:
> >
> >> >No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people. There's
> >> >no real commitment that way. What you need is some way that makes you
> >> >literally "committed" to being there, *responsible* in a way that's
> >> >meaningful to you.
> >>
> >> Man that's harder to find (a committed training partner) than
> >> motivation, IMO.
> >
> >Depends on who/what and when/where. It's not altogether uncommon for
> >friends to sit around moaning and groaning to eachother how they'd like
> >to get in better shape or they'd like to go take martial arts. I agree
> >that you can't *count* on finding a partner, but doing so tends to be
> >the best motivation for the majority. When you're obligated to someone
> >you've got the whole guilt/peer-pressure thing going on.
>
> The best training partner? A committed female runner or biker, who is
> in slightly better shape than you are. Don't mess it up by getting
> 'involved', though.

Unless she'll hold back sex if you don't go, then it'll work beautifully.

<snipped lots of good advice>

/Jacob


Ron M.

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Jan 20, 2004, 1:55:41 PM1/20/04
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> Badger South wrote:
>
> > >No. "Just do it" won't work for the vast majority of people.

Yeah, this can be a tough one. At the end of a day, you sometimes
just want to relax in front of the TV or something, and can't just
make yourself do it. I have a real problem with this, as I have sort
of a mini-dojo in my garage, with carpet, a multi-station universal
gym, a programmable recumbent bike, and two heavy bags. It's more
convenient having it at home, sure, but at the same time, it makes it
easier to blow off.

If you're a student in a dojo somewhere, it's much harder. You have to
get your gi and stuff together, drive down there, park, go in, change
clothes, step out into the training room, etc. The the teacher comes
out and says, "ok, everybody line up!" and then you HAVE to do it.
You get the point.

One thing that helps me is what was mentioned above - the heavy bag
and kata. I can just stand there and throw some VERY light punches at
the bag. Well, heck, then a couple of harder ones. Then a kick,
maybe. Next thing you know I'm into a decent workout.

Same thing with a kata. Sometimes I'll start off doing a slow, lazy
Chun-Ji, and then it builds up from there.

In either case, starting off with something very easy helps to "break
the ice" and get you going.

Ron M.

Matthew Weigel

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Jan 20, 2004, 2:35:40 PM1/20/04
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In article <400D60C6...@heapy.com>,
Kirk Lawson <lklawson_...@heapy.com> wrote:

> By the way, because of repeated infractions you're going to be black
> balled. Turn in your decoder ring, ninja tabbi, and "I Know the Death
> Touch!" T-Shirt.

First he has to force himself to forget the Death Touch.

Or, just sit there for a couple more minutes...

--
Matthew Weigel
hacker or something
no longer posting from work

Robert Low

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Badger North <young_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>My wife gets a little testy because I'm *always* doing a little
>shadow-boxing. When she wants to talk at me, a moving target is too
>much work.

And it's harder to get your attention if your head isn't
there when the plate/book/lampstand arrives.


--
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Badger North

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Jan 20, 2004, 2:55:46 PM1/20/04
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On 20 Jan 2004 19:24:53 GMT, mtx...@linux.services.coventry.ac.uk
(Robert Low) wrote:

>>My wife gets a little testy because I'm *always* doing a little
>>shadow-boxing. When she wants to talk at me, a moving target is too
>>much work.
>
>And it's harder to get your attention if your head isn't
>there when the plate/book/lampstand arrives.

Absolutely - my motivation to train harder stems from being married to
a high-maintenance redhead.

Matthew Weigel

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Jan 20, 2004, 3:58:00 PM1/20/04
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In article <d7fc3008.04012...@posting.google.com>,
rmor...@austin.rr.com (Ron M.) wrote:

> Yeah, this can be a tough one. At the end of a day, you sometimes
> just want to relax in front of the TV or something, and can't just
> make yourself do it. I have a real problem with this, as I have sort
> of a mini-dojo in my garage, with carpet, a multi-station universal
> gym, a programmable recumbent bike, and two heavy bags. It's more
> convenient having it at home, sure, but at the same time, it makes it
> easier to blow off.

I invite people over to work out in my garage, and it makes it easier to
do it every time. People are depending on me, making plans around my
willingness to do it... how can I not be there? This is the same thing
that gets instructors to class every time, I suspect, only I don't have
to know enough to teach :-)

Since I'm doing pretty much straight grappling right now, I need a
partner anyway, and I have to find something else if nobody shows up.

That didn't work out so well for weight lifting, but I'm just not very
good about doing it when other people are around.

> If you're a student in a dojo somewhere, it's much harder. You have to
> get your gi and stuff together, drive down there, park, go in, change
> clothes, step out into the training room, etc. The the teacher comes
> out and says, "ok, everybody line up!" and then you HAVE to do it.

The main things that help me get out there and do it are seeing
improvement in my ability, and getting into the *social* groove. The
first few months at a new place, then, it's important that I make
improvement of some sort, and meet people at the club.

T

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Squat rack, barbell.


Fraser Johnston

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Jan 20, 2004, 10:13:51 PM1/20/04
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<snip even more good stuff>

> 13) Do your own exploration. Don't take anyone else's advice or
> opinion for gospel. Research, research, research, then DO it! ;-)
>
> Sorry for being so long-winded today. ;-/
>
> -B
>

Keep it up mate. Best stuff I've read here in weeks that actually has to do
with training. You just have to slip in some zombie bear references and you
are going to get post of the year. Oh yeah, something about fucking Travs
mom as well.

Fraser


'Vejita' S. Cousin

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Jan 21, 2004, 12:31:00 AM1/21/04
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In article <buite3$23ah$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>,

>Lots of people (myself included) like to train...but often... life gets in
>the way..and there seems to be an never ending stream of obstacles to
>training.
>
>Working late....Distance to the training
>facility....Family....Friends....Too Tired....Too Sore....Etc...Etc....

I don't have a wife and kids, IF I did then yes; they would have to
come first in all things (I suppose ^_^, hey it's all in theory at this
point). But here's the thing, there is ALWAYS time. People choose to do
other things instead of train.
I'm 29 years old, enrolled in the MD/PhD program at the University of
Washington. I'm 7yrs into a 10 year program (just earned the PhD finish
medical school in 6'06). During that time I've also:
Trained BJJ & judo (~3 yrs)
Earned my private poilot certificate
Contined to learn japanese
Gotten into digitial video editing
Play a LOT of video games and watch a LOT of anime
Start salsa dancing
etc. etc.
and all this while working on two professional degrees, and working
8-12hr/days. I'm not saying I'm the best MA guy around but I do ok.
Mostly I made choices. People ALWAYS have free/down time. I use that
time on my hobbies because that's how I liek to spend my free time.
The neuro-surgeon residents I work with spend ~125hrs/wk at the
hospital. Many have families (which to be fair they don't really see) and
they still find time for misc hobbies.
Basically there's plently of time, you just choose to either spend it
doing other things and/or sitting around killing time. If you every find
yourself saying 'damn, there's nothing on TV' or 'man I'm pretty bored
what to do' etc. then that's time you could be training!

Not to insult anyone, but seriously I work 60+ hrs/wk now and have to
look forward to residency (80~100hr/wk) and I'm still getting stuff done.
There are a lot of people that have it worst than me, but you can find the
time if you choose to.
Or look at Gi. He's got UC and still trains and even fights in MMA
events. He seems like an &^@# on RMA but you've got to respect that!

Badger South

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.jpgs, please...

-B

S. Lockhart

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I find the best motivation is to get yourself scheduled for some type of
competition.
Be it karate, TKD, boxing or anything. It should light a fire under your
ass.
Get yourself a MMA fight. Something bout' fighting a badass in your
undies while in front of 1000's that can really get you training hard.
SL

www.sssfighting.com
space available for rent

Badger North

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:58:00 -0600, Matthew Weigel
<mcwe...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:

>This is the same thing
>that gets instructors to class every time, I suspect, only I don't have
>to know enough to teach :-)

Works in my case.

Grappler240

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>I find the best motivation is to get yourself scheduled for some type of
>competition.

sup, scott.

damn skippy. i am currently "unofficially" in training for a grappling comp.
in feb. hurt my ribs last night...don't know if they'll heal in time.
still....i have made MORE progress in the last month and a half than the 6
months b4 that.

it's incredible what the fear of failure will do for you.

later,

Pierre Honeyman

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Badger North <young_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<8umq00hbipi8ndu95...@4ax.com>...

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:38:24 -0700, "Chas"
> <chasclem...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Yes; they're called 'kata'; solo drills that allow you to practice your
> >martial art when you're by yourself.
>
> My wife gets a little testy because I'm *always* doing a little
> shadow-boxing.

"Shadow-boxing", so that's the latest euphemism is it?

Pierre

Pierre Honeyman

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Dan Winsor <daniel.nospam...@sun.smapmenot.com> wrote in message news:<400D506F...@sun.smapmenot.com>...

> I get up, throw on my sweats, and go to work. This
> way, if I want to actually be in the presence of people at the office
> (which I generally don't, but that's another story), I need to at least
> hit the gym to shower and change.

You, Sir, are officially *out* of the Nerd club! I expect your
Dilbert memorabilia, your Star Trek convention pen collection, your
T-shirts with witticisms in binary on them, and your pocket protector
on my desk by this afternoon.

Pierre

Dan Winsor

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But, but, I *did* mention my sociophobia. Doesn't that count for
anything? I can't believe you want to take my "There are 10 types
of people who understand binary" shirt away from me. Can I at
least keep my sliderule?

--
Dan Winsor

Badger North

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On 21 Jan 2004 08:32:58 -0800, phon...@telus.net (Pierre Honeyman)
wrote:

>> >Yes; they're called 'kata'; solo drills that allow you to practice your
>> >martial art when you're by yourself.
>>
>> My wife gets a little testy because I'm *always* doing a little
>> shadow-boxing.
>
>"Shadow-boxing", so that's the latest euphemism is it?

As good as any other.

Badger South

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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:50:26 -0500, Dan Winsor
<daniel.nospam...@sun.smapmenot.com> wrote:

>Pierre Honeyman wrote:
>> Dan Winsor <daniel.nospam...@sun.smapmenot.com> wrote in message news:<400D506F...@sun.smapmenot.com>...
>>
>>
>>>I get up, throw on my sweats, and go to work. This
>>>way, if I want to actually be in the presence of people at the office
>>>(which I generally don't, but that's another story), I need to at least
>>>hit the gym to shower and change.
>>
>> You, Sir, are officially *out* of the Nerd club! I expect your
>> Dilbert memorabilia, your Star Trek convention pen collection, your
>> T-shirts with witticisms in binary on them, and your pocket protector
>> on my desk by this afternoon.
>
>But, but, I *did* mention my sociophobia. Doesn't that count for
>anything? I can't believe you want to take my "There are 10 types
>of people who understand binary" shirt away from me. Can I at
>least keep my sliderule?

OK, but you gotta lose the 'Hello, Kitty' nightlight. Also, tape on
glasses.

-B


kirks...@yourclothesoperamail.com

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You know what the best motivation in the world is?

Fun.

Find a way to make it fun, or quit.

Took a long time for me to understand that one. But I am a slow
learner.

Also consider that the *bulk* of your training should be done at home.
Realistically, the 2 / 3 x week sessions are nothing more than a
tutorial / iron out any flaws. As Mushashi said, you can make every
activity and act of training - opening doors, sweeping the floor,
doing a pushup etc. Very Mr Miyagi of me I know, but nevertheless true
in practice.

As for training to do from home, consider looking into Scott Sonnons
work.

http://circularstrengthmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1054
http://circularstrengthmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1296


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Karim Rashad

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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:31:00 +0000, 'Vejita' S. Cousin wrote:
> Gotten into digitial video editing

How the *hell* do you apply the same effect to a bunch of clips at once in
Premiere? *grumble* Spent over an hour trying to work that out yesterday...

--
Karim Rashad <remove SPAMFREE: krashad at SPAMorbisFREEuk dot com>

'Vejita' S. Cousin

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In article <pan.2004.01.21....@privacy.net>,

Karim Rashad <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Gotten into digitial video editing
>
>How the *hell* do you apply the same effect to a bunch of clips at once in
>Premiere? *grumble* Spent over an hour trying to work that out yesterday...

Adobe Premiere is a great program but it has a step learning curve.
Depending on how your project is setup, if you are running 6.5 (which
fixed a LOT of problems with the timeline IMHO) and if you choose 'A/B
editing' or 'single-track editing' when you first ran the program.
If you didn't choose 'A/B editing' uninstall premiere and re-install it
and choose 'A/B editing.' I don't know of ANY OTHER way to change this
setting.
If you don't have 6.5 upgrade, 6.0 is ok everything before that has
major timeline problems.
Are all your clips loaded into the time timeline? If so I can help, if
not... again it depends on how your project is set up.

An excellent book to look at is:
Adobe Premiere 6.5 Complete Course
Donna L. Baker
ISBN 0764518968
$49.99

it's kind of pricey but I've got 5 premiere books and this is the best
one. A cheaper choice is the quick-visual premiere book.

Since we're OT anyway... one problem people have with preimere is they
forget what it's for. It's just a video editing/effects program. You
really shouldn't use it to encode video, author video, etc.
What I normally do is edit all screen shots/stills with Photoshop, use
preimere to piece the project together with effects (often after effects),
frameserve to CCE (a MPEG2 encoder), author with DVD Maestro, then burn to
DVDR discs.
In theory you can do this all with adobe: Photoshop, Premiere, After
Effects and Encore. But in practice it's just not a good idea :) The
right tool for the job and all that.

ordosclan

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"kable-kai" <kabl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<buite3$23ah$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>...

> Hi there all.
>

> Lots of people (myself included) like to train...but often... life gets in
> the way..and there seems to be an never ending stream of obstacles to
> training.
>
> Working late....Distance to the training
> facility....Family....Friends....Too Tired....Too Sore....Etc...Etc....
>

> I guess the simple answer is to just do it....But Do you guys have training
> you do in your spare time...when you simply can't get to the Kwoon/Gym ?

Like inspiration, motivation doesnt last. Its motivation or desire
that gets people in the door. If you hate your job, work sucks. But
being broke sucks more. So what are the relative motivators or
de-motivators? "good" teachers I guess are people that manipulate the
sensibilitys of students to keep them strung along but happy. When
people drop out of a school, they usually dont go back. So they
change styles or persue a struggle associated with the original
motivators. Belts, awards.... gold metals. The drama of the working
class slobs.

ordo...@mail.hongkong.com

GreenDistantStar

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"Grappler240" <grapp...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> >What works for me is to be committed to the lifestyle on several
> >synergistic levels:
>
> snippage:
>
> great stuff, man. Great post.
>
> I do alot of the same things.

Yeah, excellent post with some great advice.

Dunno about swigging flax oil though. Urgh.

I would add Vegemite to the list though.

GDS

Todd Christensen

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sco...@u.washington.edu ('Vejita' S. Cousin) wrote in message

> Not to insult anyone, but seriously I work 60+ hrs/wk now and have to
> look forward to residency (80~100hr/wk) and I'm still getting stuff done.
> There are a lot of people that have it worst than me, but you can find the
> time if you choose to.

Are we on the same planet? The one with 24 hour days?

I roughly calculate if your working 12 hours per day ( five days per
week)/ 60 hours; that leaves 108 hours left; minus sleep, lets say
your getting a paltry 6 hours per night that leaves 66 hours per week
or 9.4 hours per day.

Now if we factor class time about 4 hours per day (not including
studying), five days - 20hrs + 1.5 hours per day to cram food in your
gullet - 10.5hrs, + .5 hours per day to shit, shower and shave - 3.5
hrs, for a total of 34hrs; 66-34 = 32hrs or 4-5hrs per day

Lets factor in the lower national average for communting time of 1
hour per day (and we BOTH live in Seattle and know its higher than
that.) - 7hrs

That leaves you with 3-4 hours per day of supposed *free* time.

Not including shopping, bill paying, yard work, laundry, cooking
cleaning...

I guess that's possible with little margin for error.

Your energy is unusual and youthful. Or your rich and can afford to
have services pick up all the slack.

God bless you. I hope that never changes for you.

To me it sounds positively miserable.

I work 12-14 hour days owning my own business. I have a family. At
best I can train 6-8 hours per week and condition for five hours per
week. If I want 8hrs of sleep I have to rush to get all that in and
meet my obligations/avoid divorce.

It is said you have time, passion and energy to do two things well in
your life.

And, as for Gi (as accomplished as he has been considering), he has no
job, pays no mortgage and will never have a family. He does ONE thing.
train.

Grappler240

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>I would add Vegemite to the list though.
>

blech!!

'Vejita' S. Cousin

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In article <6c176d5a.04012...@posting.google.com>,

>> Not to insult anyone, but seriously I work 60+ hrs/wk now and have to
>> look forward to residency (80~100hr/wk) and I'm still getting stuff done.
>> There are a lot of people that have it worst than me, but you can find the
>> time if you choose to.
>
>Are we on the same planet? The one with 24 hour days?
>
>I roughly calculate if your working 12 hours per day ( five days per
>week)/ 60 hours; that leaves 108 hours left; minus sleep, lets say
>your getting a paltry 6 hours per night that leaves 66 hours per week
>or 9.4 hours per day.

I don't have a wife/kids or g/f for that matter. Here's a typical day
(while in grad school, just finished and going back to medical school in
Feb):

06:15 wake up
06:15 ~ 07:30 body weight exercises/jump rope/stretchs etc.
07:30 shower/get dress
08:00 leave for UW, bike to work
08:15 arrive at school
18:00~19:00 leave school (somedays don't leave until 22:00 but then can't
train)
MW Judo 18:30~20:30, TuTh BJJ 19:30~21:30
After class shower/eat
If necessary return to lab (0.5~2hrs)
Go to bed normally at between 01:00~01:30 (normally 5hrs of sleep)

But as I graduate student I work weekends. So the 60hrs/wk is spread out
over 6days/wk normally (sometimes go in Sunday but normally only for
0.5~3hrs).

>Lets factor in the lower national average for communting time of 1
>hour per day (and we BOTH live in Seattle and know its higher than
>that.) - 7hrs

Live in Wallingford bike to UW, so that's about 8min :)

>That leaves you with 3-4 hours per day of supposed *free* time.

More than that, I my commute time and sleep is much less.

>Not including shopping, bill paying, yard work, laundry, cooking
>cleaning...

I've heard of these things but really do them :) I'm a single male
shopping takes me 15-20min a week, tops (mostly standing in line at
costco). Paying bills, maybe 5-10min/wk. Don't do yard work. Rarely
'cook' (mostly costco burgers/chicken breasts on the foreman grill +
fries), I just keep everything clean as I go...

>I guess that's possible with little margin for error.

Graduate school gave me more control over my time than medical school.
But I eat/sleep less than most people.

>Your energy is unusual and youthful. Or your rich and can afford to
>have services pick up all the slack.

I'm a poor student, 29 years old. Not sure if that's youthful or not.

>God bless you. I hope that never changes for you.
>To me it sounds positively miserable.

It's a personal choice. Like I said the neuro-surgury residents I work
with spend 125hrs/wk at the harborview. They CHOOSE to do that (it's an
8yr program btw).
Miserable? For some. I know a lot of people that want to be in
medicine but don't like the life style so they go into PA school or
nursing school. There's nothing wrong with that. They put other choices
(freetime, wanted to have kids, stress, etc) above 'a job.' And for most
people that's all work is; a job.

>I work 12-14 hour days owning my own business. I have a family. At
>best I can train 6-8 hours per week and condition for five hours per
>week. If I want 8hrs of sleep I have to rush to get all that in and
>meet my obligations/avoid divorce.
>
>It is said you have time, passion and energy to do two things well in
>your life.

Yeah I never claimed to be the best at any of the stuff I do :) The
main thing about me is how I define 'free/down time.' Most people spend
their free time sitting on a sofa, drinking beer, watching sports, or
generally doing nothing. I spend all that time doing something.
Often it's pretty nonestop all day. Is that a good thing, or even a
desirable thing. For most peopel no, hell even I don't like it most of
the time; but I'm getting done what I want to get done.

>And, as for Gi (as accomplished as he has been considering), he has no
>job, pays no mortgage and will never have a family. He does ONE thing.
>train.

But he also has UC. And bottomline that's what I'm talking about. If
you want to have a wife, kids or any kind of social life than it's hard to
fit in training. But that's a PERSONAL CHOICE, it's not a mandate. I
choose not to go out, I choose not to have a g/f, I choose not to to a lot
of things.
I choose to get my PhD & MD degrees. I choose to get my pilots
certificate. I choose to study BJJ/judo. I choose to get up early and
work out. I choose to eat simple meals and get little sleep (actually
that's an aside of choosing to go to medical school). etc. etc.
It's all about person choice.

el_franko

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In article <20424-40...@storefull-3313.bay.webtv.net>, S. Lockhart wrote:
> Get yourself a MMA fight. Something bout' fighting a badass in your
> undies while in front of 1000's that can really get you training hard.
> SL

Yep: Pain and Shame are strong motivators - as in, if you don't train
very hard to prepare, expect LOTS of Pain and Shame ;-)

What's that old acronym ? The 7 P's:

Proper
Previous
Preparation
Prevents
Piss
Poor
Performance

...something like that...

El Franko

Robert Low

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GreenDistantStar <GreenDis...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I would add Vegemite to the list though.

Ozzie pansy. Real men eat Marmite.


--
Rob. http://www.mis.coventry.ac.uk/~mtx014/

Karim Rashad

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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:06:53 +0000, 'Vejita' S. Cousin wrote:
>>> Gotten into digitial video editing
>>
>>How the *hell* do you apply the same effect to a bunch of clips at once in
>>Premiere? *grumble* Spent over an hour trying to work that out yesterday...
>
> Are all your clips loaded into the time timeline? If so I can help, if
> not... again it depends on how your project is set up.

Yeah, and 6.2 with A/B editing

> In theory you can do this all with adobe: Photoshop, Premiere, After
> Effects and Encore. But in practice it's just not a good idea :) The
> right tool for the job and all that.

Fair amount of Photoshop experience, it helped a lot learning how to use
Premiere in a basic fashion actually. I've got After Effects, and will
try and work that one out at some point... I think I need to, I get
really bad interlace problems with any exported video; even though I'm
certain I've got the right capture settings.

Kirk Lawson

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GreenDistantStar wrote:

> I would add Vegemite to the list though.

Vitameatavegemin.

Peace favor your sword (IH)
--
"In these modern times, many men are wounded for not having weapons or
knowledge of their use."
-Achille Marozzo, 1536
--
"...it's the nature of the media and the participants. A herd of martial
artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts

Jerry B. Altzman

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In article <M2GPb.22783$Wa.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,

GreenDistantStar <GreenDis...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I would add Vegemite to the list though.

Why not just eat a few spoolfuls of sea-salt? Same thing, right?

>GDS

//jbaltz
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Adam

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Funny, my instructor and I were just having this conversation the other day
while trying to figure out how to get more guys to stay after for sparring.
I'm not the most naturally talented guy in class, but I've managed to build
my life so that I have quite a lot of free time so as a result I get to
train -or do whatever- as much as I want.

My academy is new and we all started more or less at the same time about 5
months ago. I go to every single class. I stay as long as possible
(meaning until everyone else has left) after to roll, work on weaknesses,
and ask specific questions. As far as I can tell it's in the open mat time
after class where you really learn the good stuff. There's only 3 classes
a week but when I factor in all the sparring time and the time during in
which I follow up with more questions it's like 5 or 6.

The other guys only come to class 1/3 to 3/4 of the time and if they stay
for open mat it's only for 30 minutes, wheras I stay for 2 hours to roll
with the instructor. They're always running off to be with their
girlfriends or some such. Some of the guys NEVER stay after, which I don't
get. What's the point then?

The result is that I am now smoking pretty much everyone in there at will,
and some of them seem to think I have some kind of "gift" for BJJ which is
ludicrous, in fact it's nothing more than putting in the time. My
instructor and I agree that there are a couple of serious "natural
athletes" in there who if they had the dedication would be seriously good.
In the end, motivation and dedication are far more important than natural
ability.


to...@quesinberry.com (Todd Christensen) wrote in
<6c176d5a.04012...@posting.google.com>:

'Vejita' S. Cousin

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In article <pan.2004.01.22....@privacy.net>,

Karim Rashad <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> In theory you can do this all with adobe: Photoshop, Premiere, After
>> Effects and Encore. But in practice it's just not a good idea :) The
>> right tool for the job and all that.
>
>Fair amount of Photoshop experience, it helped a lot learning how to use
>Premiere in a basic fashion actually. I've got After Effects, and will
>try and work that one out at some point... I think I need to, I get
>really bad interlace problems with any exported video; even though I'm
>certain I've got the right capture settings.

Ok, are you NTSC or PAL, and what are you outputting to. If you're
outputting TV (DVD, x(S)VCD, etc.) don't worry about the interlacing. If
you final format is for the PC then you need to deinterlace.
I was going to write a (fairly long) discussion of interlaced vs.
progressive, film vs. NTSC broadcast, de-interlacing, 3:2 pulldown, IVTC,
etc. but there are better articles at www.dvdrhelp.com and www.doom9.org

Take a look at the comments "Vejita-sama" wrote in these two treads (on
interlacing and telecining). You can either just capture at ???x240 (ie.
only one field) which removes all interlacing from the get go, or run a
deinterlacing filter. I recommend 'avisynth' (a very good framesrving
program, it's freeware, uses command scripts which some people don't like
but it's VERY powerful once you get use to it).

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=168325
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155672

Todd Christensen

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sco...@u.washington.edu ('Vejita' S. Cousin) wrote in message

> 18:00~19:00 leave school (somedays don't leave until 22:00 but then can't
> train)
> After class shower/eat

You dont eat all day until after 8pm? Damn. Not sure that's so good
for you, doc.

> It's a personal choice. Like I said the neuro-surgury residents I work
> with spend 125hrs/wk at the harborview. They CHOOSE to do that (it's an
> 8yr program btw).

There were times when I thought i could funtion on four hours of
sleep. That ended at 32 when I crashed.

I don't see not sleeping or eating as a choice anymore. I dont see
having sex or being in a relationship as a choice.

To me it's like breathing. Is breathing a choice?

To me these things are essential funtions of, and a necesaary part of,
human/animal existance. They are the filters through which the rest of
the *choosing* part of life is made meaningful and enjoyable.

But that's just me.

Fraser Johnston

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"Todd Christensen" <to...@quesinberry.com> wrote in message
news:6c176d5a.04012...@posting.google.com...

> I don't see not sleeping or eating as a choice anymore. I dont see
> having sex or being in a relationship as a choice.

I'm married. Sex is no longer a choice. ; )

Fraser


'Vejita' S. Cousin

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In article <6c176d5a.04012...@posting.google.com>,

Todd Christensen <to...@quesinberry.com> wrote:
>> 18:00~19:00 leave school (somedays don't leave until 22:00 but then can't
>> train)
>> After class shower/eat
>
>You dont eat all day until after 8pm? Damn. Not sure that's so good
>for you, doc.

I normally skip breakfast and eat lunch. Its not good more me and I
REALLY need to start eating breakfast, but it's to much time/trouble :)

>> It's a personal choice. Like I said the neuro-surgury residents I work
>> with spend 125hrs/wk at the harborview. They CHOOSE to do that (it's an
>> 8yr program btw).
>
>There were times when I thought i could funtion on four hours of
>sleep. That ended at 32 when I crashed.
>
>I don't see not sleeping or eating as a choice anymore. I dont see
>having sex or being in a relationship as a choice.
>
>To me it's like breathing. Is breathing a choice?

Come on, it's NOT the same thing. There are residents that eat/sleep
well but it's 'part of the lifestyle' and that lifestyle is a choice.
There are people that choose not to have sex (outside or sometimes even
after marriage).

>To me these things are essential funtions of, and a necesaary part of,
>human/animal existance. They are the filters through which the rest of
>the *choosing* part of life is made meaningful and enjoyable.

Again it's a choice. What's essential for you is trival for others,
and vice versa. For me food is mostly stuff I eat to stop the pain that
comes from not eating. I sometimes go out for 'fine dining' but mostly
eating just another task.
What I REALLY want to do (not an essential function but close) is fly,
train, play video games, and study. That's right STUDY! I use to spend a
lot of my fair time reading text books (would buy used at the university
book store).
Again I'm not saying I'm making the best choices in life, many of the
choices I make are just plain 'wrong'. But it's a choice. If someone
says they don't have time to train it's because they choose to place
something else above training, there's nothing wrong with that. Just be
honest about it. You choose NOT to train and do something else instead.
That's all I was trying to say :)

Karim Rashad

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:01:38 +0000, 'Vejita' S. Cousin wrote:
> Take a look at the comments "Vejita-sama" wrote in these two treads (on
> interlacing and telecining). You can either just capture at ???x240 (ie.
> only one field) which removes all interlacing from the get go, or run a
> deinterlacing filter. I recommend 'avisynth' (a very good framesrving
> program, it's freeware, uses command scripts which some people don't like
> but it's VERY powerful once you get use to it).
>
> http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=168325
> http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155672

Thanks, appreciated.

'Vejita' S. Cousin

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Jan 23, 2004, 1:52:15 PM1/23/04
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In article <pan.2004.01.23....@privacy.net>,
Karim Rashad <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
[Snip Re: Interlacing artifacts in video]

No problem. If you understand how/why interlacing works you can
understand some of the problems with deinterlacing. Just remember that
if your final project will be played on a TV (from a MPEG2 source, MPEG1
doesn't support interlaced material) there's no need to de-interlace your
video while working on it on the PC. This will only lower the video
quaility.
A good example is main new anime titles. They have 23.976fps (or
lower) hand drawings telecined to 29.97fps (interlaced), true
interlaced 29.97fps material (normally the opening/closing credits) and 60
fps (field per sec) computer generated/CGI all mixed together.
It looks fine on the TV but terrible on the PC.

GreenDistantStar

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"Robert Low" <mtx...@linux.services.coventry.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
> GreenDistantStar <GreenDis...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >I would add Vegemite to the list though.
>
> Ozzie pansy. Real men eat Marmite.

I like Marmite too. Slightly different taste. Promite is good. Hate Bonox.

REAL men eat Peck's anchovette.

Training food, that ;>

GDS


Robert Low

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Jan 24, 2004, 12:16:46 PM1/24/04
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GreenDistantStar <GreenDis...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>REAL men eat Peck's anchovette.

I'm insufficiently manly even to know what that is:
I'm guessing it's some kind of anchovy paste, maybe?
Even the name of it makes it sound like something
to sort the men out from the boys.
--
Rob. http://www.mis.coventry.ac.uk/~mtx014/

GreenDistantStar

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"Robert Low" <mtx...@linux.services.coventry.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
> GreenDistantStar <GreenDis...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >REAL men eat Peck's anchovette.
>
> I'm insufficiently manly even to know what that is:
> I'm guessing it's some kind of anchovy paste, maybe?

You're a man's man, Rob! That's exactly what it is.

> Even the name of it makes it sound like something
> to sort the men out from the boys.

Uh huh. It has a strong anchovy smell. Reminds many of something else.

Which reminds me of a funny story. Some friends and I went fishing at dusk
recently. I took my son too.

When we get home, my boy is sitting with us all in the kitchen and suddenly
blurts out, sniffing his fingers...

"Damn I can't get this fishy smell off my fingers. Anyone know how to get a
fishy smell off your fingers? "

and all the guys burst into laughter. "Why are you all laughing?" he asks
which makes everyone laugh even more.

"Dad, WHAT is so funny?"

"I'll tell you sometime soon, son"

Maybe ya had to be there....

GDS

Robert Low

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Jan 25, 2004, 8:20:59 AM1/25/04
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GreenDistantStar <GreenDis...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Uh huh. It has a strong anchovy smell. Reminds many of something else.

'If little girls are made of sugar and spice,
then why do they taste of...'

>"Damn I can't get this fishy smell off my fingers. Anyone know how to get a
>fishy smell off your fingers? "
>and all the guys burst into laughter. "Why are you all laughing?" he asks
>which makes everyone laugh even more.

>Maybe ya had to be there....

Nope, worked for me even in the re-telling :-)

--
Rob. http://www.mis.coventry.ac.uk/~mtx014/

get starbucks cards

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Jan 27, 2004, 11:03:41 AM1/27/04
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El Franko wrote in message news:<73dde03f386d0771...@news.teranews.com>...

> In article <20424-40...@storefull-3313.bay.webtv.net>, S. Lockhart wrote:
> > Get yourself a MMA fight. Something bout' fighting a badass in your
> > undies while in front of 1000's that can really get you training hard.
> > SL
>
> Yep: Pain and Shame are strong motivators - as in, if you don't train
> very hard to prepare, expect LOTS of Pain


get_starbucks...@rock.com

and go buy coffee the pain will go away

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