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MPEG-FAQ: multimedia compression [8/9]

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Archive-name: mpeg-faq/part8
Last-modified: 1996/06/02
Version: v 4.1 96/06/02
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company also has strong technical supports from universities. In
addition to MetaSound, the company is also developing several other
MPEG-related products.

Meta Media, Inc.
F8, #10-1, Ho-Ping East Rd. Sec. 1
Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C.

Phone: 011-886-2-369-3330
FAX: 011-886-2-369-3331

email: mme...@ms4.hinet.net.tw

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~Subject: MPEG audio Layer-3 from Cenlay

Proton Data has a ready-to-sell real-time Layer-3 decoder based on the
MAS 3503 chip from Intermetall, ITT Semiconductors. The adapter module
is plugged into the parallel printer board ("Centronics") of a computer; it
plays back Layer-3 files (mono or stereo) with bitrates from 32 to 320
kbps and sample rates of 32, 44.1 and 48 kHz. A MCI driver for MS
Windows and some example programmes for MS-DOS are coming along
with the decoder module.

More informations are available directly at Proton Data in Flensburg (Tel.
+49-461-366590, Fax +49-461-3816948, 10041...@compuserve.com).

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~Subject: MPEG audio Layer-3

From: po...@iis.fhg.de (Harald Popp)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 11:12:33

MPEG- Audio Layer-3: Best Music Quality at Lowest Bitrates!

Audio Export: PC board with realtime Layer-3 audio codec
Philips PKI: MAGIC codec for telecommunication networks
Telos Systems: ZEPHYR codec for ISDN, Switch 56 and other networks
Dialog 4: MUSICTAXI TYPE 3 for telecommunication networks and various PC
solutions
Fraunhofer-IIS: Objective Quality Assessment with the NMR meter
(Noise-to-Mask Ratio)

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~Subject: Video-Maker

From: jm...@frmug.fr.mugnet.org (Jean-Michel Mercier)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 22:07:34 MET DST

VITEC VIDEO-MAKER

Since December 92, there is a french MPEG PC-plugin. It's called
VIDEO MAKER and it's manufactured by :
VITEC
3 bis rue P. Baudry
92140 CLAMART
FRANCE
tel (33) 1.46.29.03.00
fax (33) 1.46.29.03.04

Features :
Claims to be the world 1st MPEG board.
2 selectable video inputs NTSC/PAL/SECAM/S-VHS
Picture up to 768x576 (by step of 16)
Colors : 256/32K/16M
Frame : 1 to 25 Fr/s
No need for VESA Features connector
16 bit short card, no dip nor jumper, no DMA nor IRQ
Windows software :
IMAGER : record & compress moving or still picts.
MPEG PLAYER : full software MPEG decoder/player, doesn't need the board
(it seems that you can freely give this soft with your MPEG seqs.)
MULTIMEDIA MANAGER VM : well known software from Multimedia Telecom to
build your scripts with icons, sync. with sounds, etc...
DLL for MCI & AVI availables

What it's not said in the commercial :
The card doesn't sample sound today but a daughter board should become
available (you can still sample sound separ and the resync with M. MANAGER)
You can't use the full specs at the same time (ie 768x576, 16M colors,

25 fr/s) even with a 486 as the compression is made by software
In fact, the sequence is 1st stored in memory using a proprietary
compression scheme and saved to disk as .VSF files. Then the offline
compression could be achived. It seems that a PC with 8Mbytes of RAM
should be able to record about 10 to 30 secondes of video.

What's on the board :
The board use Philips Digital Desktop video chipset (TDA8708+TDA8709+
SAA7191+SAA7197) witch provides 4:2:2 YUV video @ 14.75 Msmp/s
It doesn't use the SAA7192 color space converter to get RVB so this
should be done by software.
There is also an XC3042-100 FPLA from Xilinx and 1Mx8bits of dynamic
ram (70ns). Probably used for pre-compression.

The public price is 3500FF ($625) but Surcouf (Paris' computer store)
sells it about 2300FF ($410).
There was an ad in march issue of BYTE (p127) @ $695. For US & canada
the ad said to phone to 404-921-6167 or fax to 404-921-9243.

There is an test of this card (9 other ones) in june issue of the french
magazine "Multimedia Solutions".


NOTE : I have nothing to do with VITEC. This is not an ad. It is
my personnal understanding of VITEC's ads, magazines reports and
phone calls to VITEC. Please contact VITEC for any contractual
informations.

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~Subject: I2M's MEDIA PLAYBACK

Description: Add-on board for Apple Macintosh and PC
For Mac: a full size Nubus board
For PC: a full size ISA board
Processor: Motorola 68341/running 16 MHz
Video Hardware: Motorola MCD210
Audio Hardware: Yamaha YM6064 ADPCM Controller
System Memory: 4MB controlled by the MCD210
Video Expansion: Motorola MCD250 MPEG1 Full Motion Video Decoder.
This is a CD-I MPEG Video decoder which requires only a single
4Mbit DRAM for FMV decoding. Decodes System and Video Layers
at up to 5Mbits/sec, converts from 24/25/30 fps IPB streams to
25/30 fps output video in 24bit RGB/YUV format. Supports extra
CD-I functions such as windowing and still picture mode.
Targeted at consumer applications such as CD-I, CD-Karaoke, Video-CD
and cable TV.
Audio Expansion: Motorola MCD260 MPEG1 Audio Decoder
The MCD260 is a interface IC which goes between a 68K
bus and a DSP56K and strips out the MPEG System Layer whilst also
buffering and synchronizing. A 33MHz 56001 with 8K words of DSP RAM
decodes the MPEG Audio (ISO Layer 1/II @ 44.1KHz, all modes and bit rates)
Video Output: PAL/NTSC Video Composite, RGB
Audio Output: Stereo ADPCM and MPEG Audio
I/O Outputs: one port compatible CD-I 210/220, can uses Mac mouse as CD-I
ouse.

System Software: Runs OS9/CD-RTOS system software, downloaded from host memory.

System Requirements:
- Apple macintosh with Nubus slot (Centris, Quadra, AV)
- Minimum 4MB DRAM
- Apple 300 CD-ROM Drive (internal or external)
- Composite Video Monitor for display or Video Overlay Board.

PC 486/25Mhz with ISA slot
Minimum 4MB DRAM
Double speed, Multisesion, CD-I capable CD-ROM drive
Composite Video Monitor for display (or video grabbing board)
MS Windows 3.1

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I2M's MEDIA AUTHOR
Technical Specification

Description: Add-on board for Apple Macintosh and PC
For Mac: a full size Nubus board
For PC: a full size ISA board
Processor: Motorola 68341/running between 8MHz and 25MHz
Video Hardware: Motorola MCD210
Audio Hardware: Yamaha YM6064 ADPCM Controller
System Memory: 4MB controlled by the MCD210
Video Expansion: Motorola MCD250 MPEG1 Full Motion Video Decoder.
This is a CD-I MPEG Video decoder which requires only a single
4Mbit DRAM for FMV decoding. Decodes System and Video Layers
at up to 5Mbits/sec, converts from 24/25/30 fps IPB streams to
25/30 fps output video in 24bit RGB/YUV format. Supports extra
CD-I functions such as windowing and still picture mode.
Targeted at consumer applications such as CD-I, CD-Karaoke, Video-CD
and cable TV.
Audio Expansion: Motorola MCD260 MPEG1 Audio Decoder
The MCD260 is a interface IC which goes between a 68K
bus and a DSP56K and strips out the MPEG System Layer whilst also
buffering and synchronizing. A 33MHz 56001 with 8K words of DSP RAM
decodes the MPEG Audio (ISO Layer 1/II @ 44.1KHz, all modes and bit rates)
Video Output: PAL/NTSC Video Composite, RGB
Audio Output: Stereo ADPCM and MPEG Audio
I/O Outputs: one game port, one serial port compatible CD-I 210/220, can
uses Mac/PC mouse as CD-I mouse.

System Software: Runs OS9/CD-RTOS system software, downloaded from host memory.
Debugger: High level debugger functions implemented with breakpoints on
specific sectors or specific OS9 calls.
Emulation: Dynamic emulation mode capable of slowing down or accelerating
the data rate from your CD-I application.

Third Party Software:
- MediaMogul/Mac version from Optimage.
- HAL90/Mac version.
- Any third party can develop software for this new platform.

System Requirements:
- Apple macintosh with Nubus slot (Centris, Quadra, AV)
- Minimum 4MB DRAM
- Apple 300 CD-ROM Drive (internal or external)
- Composite Video Monitor for display or Video Overlay Board.

PC 486/25Mhz with ISA slot
Minimum 4MB DRAM
Double speed, Multisesion, CD-I capable CD-ROM drive
Composite Video Monitor for display (or video grabbing board)
MS Windows 3.1

Pricing information:
MediaPlayback for PC/Mac US$1,200.00
MediaPreview for Mac US$3,995.00
MediaAuthor for PC/Mac US$5,999.00

ALPHA MEDIA, Inc.
Media Integration & Consulting
Neubrunn, 8488 Turbenthal, Switzerland
Phone: (052) 454 281 Fax: (052) 453 138
E-mail: jan...@alphamedia.ch

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~Subject: Some MPEG chips

Some new chips are about to be available from SGS-Thomson :
STI3223 : motion estimator controller, intended to be used with
previously released STI3220
STI3230 : MPEG coder
STI3400 : MPEG coder (STI3240 coder + DCT processor)
STI3500 : MPEG 2 coder
Do you want me to get some more details fast ?

TI introduce the TMS320AV110 MPEG audio decoder based on TI's 16 bits
DSPs (about $14).

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~Subject: Optibase

OPTIBASE's MPEG2000 (Herzliya - Israel, Canoga Park - Calif.)
It use an CCUBE (witch?), DSP56001 ant DCT chips from LSI.

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~Subject: ReelMagic

[ And there it is, just real magic ;o) ]

ReelMagic MPEG-Video-decoder-card from Sigma Design

Video-Decoder-Specification
- MPEG-Video-Standard ISO 11172-Paris
- 32.768 colors
- Resolution 1024x768
- 30 frames/s
- Video Overlay

Audio-Specification
- MPEG-Audio Level I/II
- 8/16-bit PCM, 44 kHz sampling-rate
- Synthesizer Yamaha OPL2 compliant
- Audio Mixer PCM with FM or MPEG
- Frequence 20 Hz - 20 kHz
- Audio-Out Stereo-Headphone
2x75mW with 32 Ohm
2 V rms with 100 Ohm

System-Specification
- Standard ISA PBM PC 16 bit card
- VESA compliant Feature Connector 15 Pin
- DMA and IRQ-selection via Software (no Jumpers)
- SCSI-I, CD-ROM-driver (MSCDEX 2.2)
- Driver for Windows 3.1 and DOS 5.0 and higher
- Support of Windows OLE 2.0
- MPEG-compatible with VideoCD (CD-I coded movies !!!)
- Audio-compatible with DOS games and MPC sound standard


Price at Cebit'94:
- Reel Magic Lite (just the card) DM 679.-
- Real Magic with SCSI-interface DM 899.-
- Real Magic Kit with Sony CD-ROM DM 1299.-

Contact:

SIGMA Designs, Inc.
Leopoldstrasse 28a/II
80802 Muenchen/GERMANY
Fon: ++49 89 336443
Fax: ++49 89 335967

or

SIGMA DESIGNS, Inc.
47900 Bayside Parkway
Fremont, CA 94538 USA
Fon: (510) 770-0100
Fax: (510) 770-2640
COMPUSERVE: GO DTPVEN
Sigma BBS: (510) 770-0111 (9600-8-1-N)

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~Subject: Cinerama

From: Yasser.El....@aedi.insa-lyon.fr (Yasser.El.Chemaytilly)
Subject: Re: CD-i, and the MPEG format
Date: 4 Mar 1994 16:00:03 GMT
Organization: INSA Lyon - Computer Science Dept / France

At this time, there are 3 ways of playing a Video-CD-I:

- the Phillips CD-i with the Full Motion Video Card (approx $950 in Europe)
- the Amiga CD^32 with its Full Motion Video Card (approx $670 in Europe)
- a PC, 486 DX or DX2 with the Reel Magic MPEG card and a Sony
CD-ROM player (for the moment, it only works with the Sony
player) (the card costs approx $650 in Europe without
CD-ROM player)

The quality of the playback is identical and very good with either the CD-i or
the CD^32 (same manufacturer) but is a little bit lossy with the PC card.

Anyway, the Reel Magic card is practically as expensive as a full
CD^32 system, CD-i (+FMV cartidge) being only a little more expensive.

There may be software for playing Video-CDs on PCs, but I haven't heard
of them yet.

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~Subject: XingIt!-card

[ Well and there's the XingIt!-card now, I try and translate the ]
[ German description. ]

Features:

- realtime MPEG-Video-card for 386/486 and Pentium
- Framegrabber for Xing-Format I-frame only movies from
Video-In in 24-bit/pixel QSIF resolution
- PAL/SECAM and NTSC
- Xing-MPEG-to-real-MPEG compression software
- different playing modes up to 320x240/30frames
- selectable Refreshrate
- Windows-Applications, incl. Window for Windows MCI and Media Player

Price: DM 1499.- (so about $900)

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~Subject: MPEG-decompression hardware list

Company Product Support Resolution Price

Ace Classic 1,5,6,11,23
Ace Movie24 1,2,3,4,5,6,12,14,16,20 1280x1204
AllMedia 2000 1,5,8,9,12,13,16
AllMedia III 1,5,6,8,9,(12),13,16
ArtMedia MD-341 1,2,3,4,5,14,15,16 640x480
Aztech V. Galaxy 1,5,6,16
Bluepoint MPX-3 1,2,3,4,5,10,11,16
Creative MP400 1,2,3,11 1024x768
Hellfrich Peggy Plus 1,5,6,12,(Amiga) DEM 998
Edison MPEG card 1,5,6,10,11,16,20,23 1024x768
K+s computing Master 1,2,3,5,11,14,23 DEM 599
MovieVision MPEG 2in1 1,5,8,9,12,13,16,18 800x600
Optibase PCMOtionPro 1,5,6,9,12
Orchid Kelvin MPEG 1,2,3,5,6,11,13,22 1024x768
Sigma Designs RealMagic 1,2,3,4,5,6,11,12,14,16,22 1024x768 DEM 499
Spea Showtime + 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,12,13,14,22 1024x768 DEM 850
Vitec DRT1 1,14,21,23
Vitec MM2 1,5,11 1024x768

1 = MPEG-1 2 = CD-I 3 = CD-V 4 = Karaoke
5 = 16-bit audio 6 = Audio Level 2 7 = Audio Level 3
8 = AVI-grabber 9 = VfW 1.1 comp.
10 = VESA comp. 11 = RealColor 12 = 24 bit True C. 13 = VGA-card
14 = MCI driver 15 = API
16 = ISA 17 = EISA 18 = VLB 19 = PCI
20 = Feature conn. 21 = TV-decoder 22 = RealMagic com. 23 = S-VHS out
24 = CD-Rom

The resolution is the highest with MPEG-playback.

*8 most cards support the freezing of single MPEG-frames and capturing
of incoming frames, but only a few support real grabbing
*11 most cards only support 64k color when playing MPEG
*23 this can be a Composite Video Out or similar


I know there are many, many more, please send my info about YOUR mpeg
solution. Should we put the companies addresses here as well ?

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~Subject: Amiga CD32

[ Ha, a game-console with MPEG-support, a bit crazy, but the best things ]
[ get pushed by nig-nag <grin> ]

From: George Sanderson <G.San...@ais.gu.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 12:28:31 +1000

You may want to add to your MPEG FAQ that the Amiga CD32 game console is
able to play both standard MPEG VideoCDs and the CD-I specific VideoCDs,
with the addition of the MPEG card which is available now.

As far as I know, the recommended retail price just for the CD32 in the USA
is US$399 but it is selling below that now (US$376). In Australia, it is
selling for AUS$594. It has been released in Europe in late 1993 and
is selling very well (120,000+ units sold as of Jan'94). The major release
date for the US market is sometime in March. There are at least
20 CD32 specific titles available (and it can play CDTV titles as well)
and over 100 CD32 titles will be released in 1994. The price of the MPEG
module is (guessing) US$299. Commodore is selling the units directly
to wholesalers.

here is some info about the Amiga CD32 (made by Commodore) with
info about its MPEG module mixed in (i'll mail you more info about
the MPEG module when I get it):

AmigaCD32

CPU/Speed: 68EC020 @ 14MHz
Architecture: 32 bit
Throughput: 3.5 MIPS
Chip RAM: 2 Megs of DRAM
Fast RAM: None
Non-Volatile RAM: 1 KB

Custom Chips: I/O ports, Audio and Interrupt controller,
DMA Controller, Video data controller (AGA chipset)
CD-ROM controller

Animation CELS: 8 Sprites per scanline (64-bit)
& Unlimited Bobs (blitter objects)

Video Modes: can display upto 1280 x 512 in 15 kHz
Colours: 256,000/16.7 Million

Sound: Stereo 8 bit
Stereo 18 bit CD-DA
DSP planned

CD-ROM: Double Speed
Top Loading
Software Video
Player: Partial Screen using 4096 Colours (CDXL)

MPEG: Available now (see below)
PhotoCD: Available as third party software

Game Controller: 11 Buttons

Supported CD Standards:

AMIGA CD32
Audio CD
CD+G (Graphics)
Most CDTV including CDXL
VideoCD (MPEG1) - see below

Connectors + Switches:

2 x Games Controller/Joystick/Mouse ports
High Speed auxiliary connector for keyboard and virtual reality gloves, etc.
Local slot expansion connector
Power Switch and Indicator LED
Reset Switch (momentary)
Headphone jack and Volume slider


MPEG Module (optional)

Full screen, Full Motion Video and Stereo Audio replay direct from disc;
total running time 74 minutes
352 x 288 at 25 Frames per Second (PAL mode - different for NTSC)
Able to play most CD-I MPEG specific titles (they demonstrated that
at the World of Commodore shows playing Star Trek 6, Top Gun, etc.)

The Amiga CD32 hardware is able to genlock its graphics and sound on top of
the MPEG output. Additionally, while the MPEG module is playing, the CD32
has about 80% of CPU left to use - this could mean some interesting games
with video backdrops.

The MPEG module comes with a MPEG disk that has a few rock video clips.

Audio Output:

2 channel, 4 voice stereo using 8 bit digital/analogue converters
18 bit audio CD stereo at 44kHz

Video Outputs:

S-Video, Composite and RF (UHF) for TV

Included:

11 Button Game Controller
"Welcome" Disc
Consumer Information Manual
CD32 Users Guide
RF video and Stereo audio cables
+ usually packed with 2 games

Physical:

212 mm x 311 mm x 81 mm
CPU 1.44 kg
Power Supply 1.53 kg

Warranty:

1 Year, return to regional service centre

Power Supply:

External, 22 Watts

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~Subject: SECTION 5. - MAILBOX-ACCESS

That's how you can get MPEG-related files via modem.

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~Subject: Xing Technologies BBS and fax

This is the phone number of Xing Technologies' BBS:

805-473-2680 (2400b) (USA)
805) 473-0147 (Fax)

Bryan Woodworth <bry...@rahul.net> wrote:

Would you also please add, that the Xing BBS now supports v.32bis and HST !
I am not sure on HST, but I am sure it supports v.32bis. However, I have a
v.32bis modem, and could only connect at 9600. I think they do not have the
modem configured properly.

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~Subject: SECTION 6. - FTP-ACCESS

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~Subject: FTP-ACCESS - Overview

Please contact these ftp-sites for files before e-mailing to me !!!

URL=ftp://ftp.powerweb.de/pub
[194.77.15.46]

URL=ftp://ftp.tnt.uni-hannover.de/pub/MPEG/audio
[161.105.2.22]

URL=ftp://busop.cit.wayne.edu/sys/pub/simpsons/incoming/mpeg
URL=ftp://busop.cit.wayne.edu/sys/pub/simpsons/incoming/mpeg1

URL=ftp://amiga.physik.unizh.ch/pub/aminet/
[130.60.80.80]

URL=ftp://ftp.cica.indiana.edu/
[129.79.20.17]

URL=ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/msdos/incoming/
URL=ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/msdos/dos/graphics/
URL=ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/msdos/windows3/graphics
URL=ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/aminet/
[quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de]
[130.149.17.7]

URL=ftp://ftp.germany.eu.net/
[192.76.144.75]

URL=ftp://ftp.luth.se/pub/graphics/animation/mpeg

URL=ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/aminet/
[131.188.1.43]

URL=ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/aminet/
[131.246.9.95]

URL=ftp://ftp.wustl.edu/
[128.252.135.4]

URL=ftp://isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp/

URL=ftp://litamiga.epfl.ch/pub/aminet/
[128.178.151.32]

URL=ftp://merlin.etsu.edu/
[192.43.199.20]

URL=ftp://mm-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/multimedia/mpeg/
[128.32.149.157]

URL=ftp://nic.funet.fi/
[128.214.6.100]

URL=ftp://phoenix.oulu.fi/
[130.231.240.17]

URL=ftp://pinus.slu.se/pub/graphics/mpeg/
[130.238.98.11]

URL=ftp://sumex-aim.stanford.edu/info-mac/app/

URL=ftp://suniams1.statistik.tu-muenchen.de/pub/mac/MPEG/encoder/
[131.159.64.1]

URL=ftp://ftp.iuma.com/

URL=ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/electronic-publications/IUMA

URL=ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/
[128.252.135.4]

URL=ftp://ftp.tnt.uni-hannover.de/pub/MPEG/audio

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~Subject: MPEG-2 validation bitstreams

The MPEG Committee MPEG-2 Systems Transport Layer validation bitstreams
(July 1994 edition) are now available via anonymous FTP. Also included
in the archive is a copy of Munsi Haque's draft ANSI-C source code for
Transport layer demultiplexing.

These bitstreams are not guaranteed to be 100% correct (especially
since the MPEG-2 Systems document, ISO/IEC 13818-1, is still undergoing
technical content changes), but they are produced by none other than
the world's experts on the subject.


URL=ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/graphics/x3l3/pub/bitstreams/systems/
[128.252.135.4]


total 3.22 Megabytes

1171551 teracom-3.tar.gz Teracom bitstream
27833 COMMENTS Comments regarding bitstreams
26731 munsi_v13.tar.gz MPEG-2 Demultiplexer source code
355823 divicom-3.tar.gz Divicom bitstream
879635 nta-1.tar.gz NTA bitstream
777316 sa-2.tar.gz Scientific Atlanta bitstream


MPEG-2 Video validation bitstreams are also available in
graphics/x3l3/pub/bitstreams/video/

Kind regards,

Chad Fogg
cf...@netcom.com

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~Subject: Audio streams and utils

CCETT has been distributing executables only of their Audio bitstream
syntax verifier. The site address is: 161.105.2.22
Audio conformance bitstreams are also at

URL=ftp://ftp.tnt.uni-hannover.de/

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~Subject: Accessing Aminet

There are many other ways than FTP to access AmiNet:

- ADT. This is a front end for FTP that allows easy access to AmiNet.
Get it from comm/misc/ and compile it on your UNIX box.
- FSP. AmiNet Files can be downloaded from the FSP site disun3.epfl.ch
port 9999. Uploads are accepted and forwarded.
- NFS. The only AmiNet site that allows NFS mounting of the archives is
wuarchive.wust.edu. FTP there and read the details in the /README.NFS
- IRC. On Internet Relay Chat, you can talk to various server robots
like AmiBot, MerBot or Mama, to do queries and retrievals.
- Gopher. There is a gopher server for AmiNet at merlin.etsu.edu. To
connect, use the command 'gopher merlin.etsu.edu'.
- Modem. In Germany, you can download the AmiNet files from the Incubus
BBS, telephone number 0931 781464. The login is 'ftp', password 'ftp'.
- Usenet. A list of recent uploads is posted every week to the newsgroups
comp.sys.amiga.misc and de.comp.sys.amiga.misc. Useful for mail servers.
- Mailserver. Sorry, no specialized e-mail server for AmiNet yet. But you
can use ftp...@decwrl.dec.com. Send a mail with HELP in the body.
- CD-ROM. AmiNet is available on CD-ROM. Talk to in...@cdrom.com, or write
to Walnut Creek CDROM, 1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Walnut Creek CA 94596, USA
or phone 1 800 786 9907, +1 510 674 0783 or +1 510 674 0821 (FAX)

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~Subject: Where will I find test-material for MPEG-encoders ?

[ You can find this in the

URL=ftp://mm-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/multimedia/mpeg/

[ ftp-server. Belongs to there codec. ]

This directory includes 150 raw YUV frames suitable for use with the MPEG
encoder.

The YUV frames are the files flower.*.tar.z. To uncompress, use the GNU
'gunzip' program. You should uncompress all of these files inside a
directory named 'flowg'.

To run the test, simply do 'mpeg_encode flower.param'

To make sure the test worked, do 'diff flowgard.mpg result.mpg'
(there shouldn't be any difference; if there is, let us know)

Please see the file 'times,' which includes time results for various machines
and compilers.


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~Subject: SECTION 7. - WWW-ACCESS

Well, MPEG is a multimedia format and fits perfectly the needs of
the World Wide Web, so there are WWW-site that store their material
in MPEG format and, the other way round, sites that store information
about MPEG itself.

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~Subject: Where is the WWW-home of this FAQ ?

Oh, don't get confused here. This new version 4.1 of this FAQ is
available in HTML form from:

URL=http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mpegfaq/

The HTML-Version of the FAQ supports pictures and e-mail
addresses and file location via HTTP-links.

At the following URL you find the famous MPEG Archive, it contains
all news, tools for several platforms and any publication about
I wrote regarding MPEG (currently this archive had more than
3 million downloads in 13 month !):

URL=http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/

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~Subject: Where can I find MPEG-2 resource on the Web ?

Brand new is the section of the MPEG Archive concerning MPEG-2 !
Check

URL=http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg2

including more than 400 MB of software, streams and documents.
This archive will be avilable soon as CD-Rom !

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~Subject: Where can I find a list of books and papers regarding MPEG audio compression ?
From: scott.k...@tek.com

His list is now downloadable from

http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/audiowww.html

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~Subject: An Interactive Explanation on the Web ?
From: Kevin Lussie <luss...@cs.uidaho.edu>

I had to write an interactive HTML paper on MPEG for my Digital Image
Processing class that I am currently taking here at the University
of Idaho and Washington State University.

I just wanted to say that your MPEG FAQ was a great resource.

I was just wondering if you could check out my INTERACTIVE MPEG PAPER,
if you have time. It is located at

http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~lussi923/mpeg-project/index.html

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~Subject: Where is the WWW-demo of "The Internet MPEG CD-Rom" ?

Try and USE the Internet OFFLINE !!!

To make the "Internet MPEG CD-Rom" interactive, one big hypertext-
document explains and displays the whole contents of the archive,
giving the user a powerful tool, called Cello, to browse through
Megabytes of documentaton and to interactevly select and play hours
and hours of music and movies.

The whole archive itself is organized as one big hypertext-document.
It includes a complete Wide-World-Web (WWW) document, the tools to
use this document on Windows-, Windows-NT-, Linux-, SunOS- and Solaris-
machines are included, most UNIX-hosts can include "The Internet MPEG CD-Rom"
into their hyptertext-services with a single link !!!

You can find a few of all these WWW-documents as an example under the address:

URL=http://www.powerweb.de/phade/products/mpegcd/mpegcd.htm


For a complete description of this famous MPEG archive, real below,
in the MAIL-ACCESS section.

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~Subject: Which archive is mostly related to MPEG-Audio ?

<IMG SRC="iuma2.gif">

The Internet Underground Music Archive is the biggest archive
storing music in MPEG-Audio format. The already have more than
500 bands presenting their music and on of the nicest Web-sites
ever seen ! Just connect to

URL=http://www.iuma.com/

.___ ____ ___ _____ _____
| | | \ \ / _ \ the net's first hi-fi music archive
| | | / Y \/ /_\ \ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
| | | / | \ | \ The Internet Underground Music Archive
|___|______/____|__ /___|__ / bands/music/labels/images/bubbles
===================\/=======\/============================================
How to Use IUMA
Last edited 2/2/94

Here are a few pointers about how to make the most efficient use of
IUMA and the music on it. You may also wish to peruse the
Frequent Asked Questions (FAQ), although it's currently undergoing a
complete revision. 8)

The first and most important thing to note is that IUMA is best explored
and used via World-Wide Web (WWW) clients such as Lynx and NCSA Mosaic.
The WWW is a hypertext-based method of purusing the net that is
both more intuitive than FTP and Gopher, yet downwards compatible with FTP
and Gopher.

NCSA Mosaic requires a direct network connection or SLIP to the Internet
and versions are available for Xwindows boxes, Macintoshs and Windows PCs.
FTP to "ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu" and look in the dir "/Mosiac" for all current
versions.

Lynx is a very good text-mode WWW browser available as UNIX program that
one runs from their UNIX account. As long as "tar" and "uncompress" are
not foreign to you, you should have no problems making it work.
You can FTP lynx from ftp.wustl.edu in the /packages/www dir.

The next most important thing to first realize is that all of the music on
IUMA comes a few forms:

MPEG
This is the format of the best stereo copies of the music online. You need
a special player to decode the MPEG compression and play the music on your
system once it's downloaded. IUMA has a few freely distributable
MPEG audio players already available for you to download:

XingSound Player for Windows as mpgaudio.zip
Tobias Bading's MPEG audio player source as maplay.tar.Z
People using this on UNIX workstations (particularly Suns),
should take a look at the accompanying textfiles.

Aware Corporation has graciously produced a shareware MPEG audio player
for the Macintosh which will be availble for distribution in the
next few weeks.

ADPCM
The ADPCM format is probably going to be phased out of being included
in IUMA since the quality is not as good as MPEG II. In any case,
the files have the extension .WAV and are in the MS-ADPCM format.
The program Cool Edit (cool131.zip) can decode and play them on
Windows PCs.

AU
Some (eventually all) bands will have a Sun Audio (au) sample file which
is available to download a small 15 second sample of the band before
deciding that you wish to download the entire MPEG song. When listening
to these note that the Sun Au files are 8bit mono for that full-on
compressed midrange AM Radio sound and therefore will sound nothing
remotely like the awesome stereo MPEG file. Most machines can
understand this format so nothing special should be needed beyond normal
audio tools to download and play these files. Player for Macintoshes
and Windows PCs can be found on the Internet.

If you have any questions please mail ia...@sunsite.unc.edu.

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~Subject: What's with Bryan Woodworth ftp-area ?

He changed his internet provider and close his old ftp-site.
The new site is reachable via WWW (the better way) and still
presents lots of information about MPEG and graphics at all:

From: bry...@best.com (Bryan Woodworth)
Subject: WWW Graphics Page now UP

[Lastmod: 09.01.94 11:37:55]
!!=new info

The WWW Graphics Page is now online via the World Wide Web!
URL=http://www.best.com/~bryanw/

[Even if you don't have a graphical front-end, you can still access
the information. Plain ASCII output (via the program LYNX) is
available for those users using dial-up accounts (e.g. Netcom, a2i,
Portal, CRL, and many more). You may already have lynx installed
online! Enter "lynx" at the shell prompt. If it doesn't exist,
just ftp the source and compile it yourself. See .signature at bottom of
message for details on obtaining the FAQ via ftp.best.com.]

If you're using a Unix dialup account and Microsoft Windows, now
you can experience the glory of the World Wide Web's great
interface without having to pay for a SLIP account or SLIP emulator!
Try SlipKnot today..

URL=ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/win3/internet/

More info available from the WWW Graphics page!

!! This info-file is becoming too time-consuming to update. Therefore,
!! you are encouraged to check out the homepage once a week or so, and click
!! on the "Latest Additions" link for a listing of the latest updates!

Information of the following variety awaits you:

o The FAQ desk -- Graphics information

* Tom Lane's JPEG faq -- Obtaining viewers and
understanding the JPEG image format
* A link to the NCSA Mosaic FTP site, for those
looking for Mosaic, the famous WWW graphical
browser
* Jim Howard's alt.binaries.pictures FAQ -- Info
on how to decode pictures, posting, and much
more
* MPEG information: Links to Frank Gadegast's
MPEG faq and MPEG homepage; The WWW Graphics
Page's very own MPEG faq; The MPEG Standards
Homepage (info on MPEG standards, site for
MPEG movies, and more); and an MPEG movie
archive
* A link to the massive Usenet FAQ pages at
Ohio State, an outstanding resource
* A link to Thomas Boutell's fantastic WWW faq!
In living WWW format! (Also availble via FTP
from the WWW Graphics Page as a ZIPped Ascii file)
Info on WWW browsers for all platforms (even Unix
dial-up), writing HTML documents, and more!
A M U S T R E A D F O R E V E R Y O N E

-- Internet Service FAQ pages

* The Internet Services FAQ
* FSP (alternative to FTP) FAQ
* Internet Gopher FAQ

-- Miscellaneous FAQs (selection subject to change)

* Howard Stern
* Unix X-Windows on Intel Architecture
* The MS-DOS Archives
* Playboy Enterprises (required reading!)
* The alt.supermodels FAQ! Read on for juicy
info on your favourite supermodels..


o Computer Support Areas -- Where to obtain programs of a graphical
nature for your architecture

* Macintosh -- MPEG players, contact sheet
makers, dl/gl/fli viewers, etc.
* IBM PC -- MPEG players, JPEG viewers,
a link to the Xing Technology FTP site,
and official QPEG support site for
North America (including the latest version
of QPEG, along with a link to Oliver Fromme's
homepage in Germany)
NOW DIVIDED INTO COGENT areas: JPEG/GIF viewers,
MPEG viewers, contact sheet makers, AVI viewers,
and probably a few other juicy tidbits.
* Unix/X-Window -- MPEG source, movies;
information on XAnim, a wonderful graphics
program by Mark Podlipec
* The QuickTime Support Link. A pointer to
Robert A. Lentz's exquisite QuickTime information
page, with info on flattening quicktimes and programs
and utils for Macintosh, X Window, and Microsoft
Windows. A MUST see!!
* Archie link added! Just click and voila, you
have access to Archie. (Some browsers may
require an external telnet application;
consult your documentation.)
* Winsock support area. Link to the Winsock
Application FAQ. In addition, the WWW Graphics
Page is now the official distribution site
in the USA for EWAN, the fantastic freeware telnet
program for Winsock!

o The Tennis Center -- Information on my favorite game, tennis.
(I realize this is tangential, but.. so
what!)

* The rec.sport.tennis FAQ
* The Tennis Homepage (In Canada, with
links to another tennis homepage)
!! * A cute picture of Barbi Benton and Hugh
Hefner posting with their tennis racquets
at a tennis court
!! * Fascinating photos of Andre Agassi's new haircut

o Favorite Links -- Other sites you should try, and IMMEDIATELY!

* The Yahoo Sever - a great link, equipped
with an easy-to-use subject search index
for easy access to other links! Find what
you want quickly and easily.
* The Multimedia Maddman's hOmeY page -- Graphics
Info and more! Just try it!
* Michel Buffa's Video Games Page (3DO, Atari
Jaguar, SNES, Sega, Gameboy, etc..)
* The UnOfficial Nine Inch Nails Homepage
* The Beastie Boys Homepage
* The Llama Mailserver (MPEG resource and more!)
* The alt.sex.movies Homepage
* The CDnow! homepage -- ordering CDs via WWW
* The Playboy Enterprises, Inc. homepage -- now
you can explore Playboy's catalog via WWW!

* A section on graphics links.. including the
very nice IAMfree area, your local WWW Art
Gallery!

The material is presented in a refreshing format, just for YOU! If
you do not want this site to die, your feedback must be submitted via
email. Do not let it go to waste! The vitality of this site is up to
you alone..

The WWW Graphics Page.. your online WWW resource for Graphics
Utilities!

Try it today! URL=http://www.best.com/~bryanw/

--
Bryan Woodworth (bry...@best.com) Try The WWW Graphics Page today!
URL: http://www.best.com/~bryanw
Need a WWW browser? FTP to ftp.best.com:/pub/bryanw/wwwfaq.zip
Info on WWW browsers for all platforms -- even Unix dial-up

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~Subject: What are other good URL's ?

A more up-to-date list you can find under
http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mplinks.html


Archives

MPEG Archive http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/
MPEG-2 Archive http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg2/

Articels

MPEG FAQ 4.1 http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mpegfaq/

Compac using MPEG ? http://www.compaq.com/cgi-bin/present/whatsnew/pr.html
Decoding MPEG Decoders http://www.doceo.com/mpegbord.html
Digital Video (Issue Aug. 95): 2 MPEG Articels http://www.dv.com/dv/Mag/Aug95/Contents.html
General web MPEG-Audio resources http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/audiowww.html
UNIXopen 12/95 - MPEG: Ein packendes Format http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mpuo12.html
UNIXopen 05/96 - MPEG 2: ein breites Spektrum http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mpuo05.html
How to make MPEG movies (unix) http://www.arc.umn.edu/GVL/Software/mpeg.html
MPEG Infos at CRS4 http://www.crs4.it/~luigi/MPEG/mpegfaq.html

Audiostreams

BAWP - MPEG poems http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/bawp/home.html
David Bowie OUTSIDE http://www.davidbowie.com
Fritz (radiostation with MPEG-sounds) http://www.fritz.de
Mammoth Records - The Listening Room http://netit.com/mammoth/audio/index.html
Music clips http://www.kspace.com/
Music Kitchen Music Videos http://www.directnet.com/Crash/MovingPictures
Rock'n'Roll magazine http://www.addict.com/ATN/
Towhead http://pcd.stanford.edu/umbra/Towhead/Towhead.html
Violet Arcana http://www.csos.orst.edu/rfr/va/arcana.html
Virginia Tech Music Department http://server.music.vt.edu

Companies

Arasmith Engineering http://www.open2u.com
Aspen, Colorado Site http://www.aspenonline.com/aspenonline
C-Cube http://www.c-cube.com
Doceo http://www.doceo.com
Digital Video Systems http://www.dvsystems.com
Hyundai Electronics America http://www.hea.com/
MPEG International http://www.formpeg.com/
MPEG Plaza http://www.visiblelight.com/mpeg/
NB Engineering (MPEG compression service) http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/nb.html
Open MPEG-1 representatives group http://cinax.com/OM-1
Sigma Design (RealMagic Decoder)) http://www.realmagic.com/
Universal Studios http://www.firstunion.com/universal/nettoob

Link collections

PHADE's ultimate MPEG link list http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mplinks.html
Tristan's General web MPEG resources http://www.bok.net/~tristan/MPEG/MPEG-content.html#top
MPEG-2 Video Compression for Broadcasting http://www.hei.ca/hei/mpeg2.html

Utilities

PHADE's util collection http://www.powerweb.de/mpeg/mpega.html

Action Netscape Plug-In supporting MPEG http://www.open2u.com/action/action.html
Active Movie Player http://www.microsoft.com/advtech/ActiveMovie/AMStream.htm
CompCore (MPEG software and hardware producer) http://www.compcore.com
CoolEdit 1.5.3 http://www.syntrillium.com/#Cool
Maplay 95/NT http://po.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win32.html
MPEG-2 archive of Chadd Fogg ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/cf/cfogg/mpeg2/
MPEG audio Layer 2 http://www.mpr.ca/products/transport/
MPEG-audio Layer 3 (FHG) http://www.iis.fhg.de/
MPEG play/MI (Motif) http://www.geom.umn.edu/docs/mpeg_play/mpeg_play.html
MPEG/CD 2.0.5 for Macs http://www.kauai.com/kauai
MPEGe Lib http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ark/mpegelib/
MPEG utils and some cool bands http://www.io.org/~cme
Video & 8mm FILM http://www.kyushu-id.ac.jp/kid/free/RYOUTEI/MPEG/tsuzuki02.html
Net Toob MPEG Player http://www.duplexx.com
PreVU Netscape Plug-In for MPEG Video http://www.intervu.com/sysreq.html
xa X11 Animator supporting MPEG http://www.cita.utoronto.ca/~richards/DCR/xa.html

Video-streams

100+ Fractal Movie samples with MPEG http://www.cnam.fr/fractals/anim.html
150+ MPEGs, Anim, AVI,FLI, MOV http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/rml/Mpeg
300+ Outer Space Animations with MPEG http://www.univ-rennes1.fr/ASTRO/anim-e.html
Andrew's MPEG Archive http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~werdna/mpegs.html
Darin's MPEG Movie Archive http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~darinh/mpegs.shtml
Daerons MPEG Player http://www.geom.umn.edu/docs/mpeg_play/mpeg_play.html
FilmArt movies http://www.filmart.co.at/filmart
Fractal Animations http://iseran.ira.uka.de/Fraktdemos/
Hangliding MPEGs http://cougar.stanford.edu:7878/MoviePage.html#MPEG
Mathematical MPEGs http://www.csc.fi/math_topics/Movies/
MPEG-2 validation bitstreams ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/graphics/x3l3/pub/bitstreams/systems/
Movies ftp://ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/pub/rec/movies/mpeg
MPEG Movie Archive http://w3.eeb.ele.tue.nl/mpeg/index.html
MPEG MONSTER LIST http://www.islandnet.com/~carleton/monster/monster.html
Porsche Videos http://www.nbeng.com/nbe/html/samples.htm
Pink Floyd and Blade Runner http://wwwzenger.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/persons/paula/mpeg/index.html
Windsurfing MPEGs http://www.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/dsg_people/afcondon/windsurf/video/video.html

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~Subject: SECTION 8. - MAIL ORDER

That's about what you can get via mail.

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~Subject: The Internet MPEG CD-Rom


PHADE SOFTWARE and Hartmann Multimedia Service
Inh. Frank Gadegast Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann

present

=======================================================
The Internet MPEG CD-Rom Version 1.0
Monday December 28th 1995
=======================================================

* Get yourself the latest MPEG Video and MPEG Audio software tools !

* Listen to over 150 songs from the Internet Underground Music Archive (IUMA)!
(without having to download a single one ! incl. XingSound MPEG Audio player)

* Browse the Internet Offline and click yourself through over 200 MPEG movies !
(you don't need to be online, everything is just a click away !)

* Learn, how to use the World Wide Web , Offline !

* Try the Demo of this CD-Rom _ONLINE_ at:

http://www.powerweb.de/phade/products/mpegcd/

The "Internet MPEG CD-Rom" is a rather unique collection of Multimedia-
Data stored in a compression-format called MPEG. It includes 600 MB
of digital movies, sounds, songs and all utilities for composing,
encoding and decoding, playing and rearranging this multimedia material.

The "Internet MPEG CD-Rom" is especially compiled for those, who want
to follow the digital multimedia revolution or who want to develop
MPEG-utilities or create MPEG-compressed sounds or movies.

The "Internet MPEG CD-Rom" is NOW available as an ISO-9660 conform CD-Rom disc!
Readable on DOS, Windows, Windows-NT, OS/2, Ultrix, Unix, MACs, etc ....

Installation programs and all needed viewers are included for
Windows, Linux, SunOS and Solaris ...

"The Internet MPEG CD-Rom"
includes the FAQs and MPEG utility programs, source-code, movies and
information-files. Just everything about MPEG-I and now even MPEG-II.

The CD-Rom includes (in addition to the versions which are stored on the
ftp-Servers out there) all the versions of the programs and source-code,
additional movies (including the audio-files) and lots of additional
informations.

Additional to any ftp-servers it contains special things, you can't find
anywhere but here. Like a DOS-port of the Berkeley-MPEG-Encoder, other
DOS-ports, a security-filter for MPEG-I-video- and -audiostreams called
secmpeg and secmpaudio, some selfmade movies, new versions and utilities that
were specially made for THIS CD-Rom and that you will never find on other
media...


Try and USE the Internet OFFLINE !!!

To make the "Internet MPEG CD-Rom" interactive, one big hypertext-
document explains and displays the whole contents of the archive,
giving the user a powerful tool, called Cello, to browse through
Megabytes of documentaton and to interactevly select and play hours
and hours of music and movies.

The whole archive itself is organized as one big hypertext-document.
It includes a complete Wide-World-Web (WWW) document, the tools to
use this document on Windows-, Windows-NT-, Linux-, SunOS- and Solaris-
machines are included, most UNIX-hosts can include "The Internet MPEG CD-Rom"
into their hyptertext-services with a single link !!!

You can find a few of all these WWW-documents as an example under the
adress:

http://www.powerweb.de/phade/products/mpegcd/

"The Internet MPEG CD-Rom" contains at least the following sections:

24,888,655 E:\AUDIO\MUSIC 20,583,631 E:\NVR
49,339,823 E:\AUDIO 12,108,204 E:\PHADESW
10,103,748 E:\BIN 3,000,035 E:\UTIL\AMIGA
640,532 E:\DEMO 152,576 E:\UTIL\DEC
11,618,223 E:\DOC 20,073,867 E:\UTIL\DOS
3,157,665 E:\FAQ 338,116 E:\UTIL\IRIX
189,569,667 E:\IUMA\MUSIC 5,390,454 E:\UTIL\MAC
191,150,646 E:\IUMA 1,802,240 E:\UTIL\NEXT
15,102,123 E:\MOVIES\IFRAME 2,152,491 E:\UTIL\OS2
99,083,167 E:\MOVIES\IPBFRAME 5,944,282 E:\UTIL\SPARC
114,185,290 E:\MOVIES 30,885,363 E:\UTIL\UNIX
52,781,148 E:\MPEG1 3,060,754 E:\UTIL\WINDOWNT
250,441 E:\MPEG2 4,042,098 E:\UTIL\WINDOWS
37,465,169 E:\NFM\MUSIC 76,842,276 E:\UTIL
37,537,740 E:\NFM 23,231,772 E:\VIDEOS
3,232,740 E:\WWW

Total = 607,537,581 bytes

Please be sure, to get always the most-up-to-date description
of "The Internet MPEG CD-Rom" before requesting it ! EMail to:

ph...@powerweb.de

or try to find the latest MPEGFAQ (current Version 3.2).
Look at the date of this info file, something older than 6 months
can't be up-to-date !


Be faster than the Internet and order now !!!

Ordering can be done now immediately via email or via letter.

To obtain "The Internet MPEG CD-Rom" you have the following choices:

o fill the ORDER.FRM and send it via e-mail or fax it to
PHADE Software (if paying with VISA-card only !)

o fill the ORDER.FRM and send it via letter to PHADE Software
(only VISA-card and EC-cheques (German Marks only) accepted !)

o order it in your book store via:

ISBN-number: 3-930736-40-3
Title : The Internet MPEG CD-Rom Version 1.0
Publisher : Hartmann Multimedia Service
Author : PHADE Software, Inh. Frank Gadegast

o try our WWW-server and get the latest info via
URL=http://www.powerweb.de/phade/

o you can order at your local computer or CD-Rom shop
(try to convince your local dealer to order from Hartmann Multimedia Service)

ORDER-FORM for "The Internet MPEG CD-Rom" [Version 1.0]
Monday NOVEMBER 13th 1995

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