[DS9] Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Apocalypse Rising"
Timothy W. Lynch
WARNING: The horror ... the horror ... oh, wait; that's
"Apocalypse Now". "Apocalypse Rising" is the premiere episode for
DS9's fifth season, and that's what has spoilers for it below.
In brief: Part of me's saying that "there wasn't much there", but on
the whole it was a pretty entertaining hour.
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Written by: Ira Steven Behr & Robert Hewitt Wolfe
Directed by: James L. Conway
Brief summary: With Odo's revelation that Gowron is a Changeling,
Sisko leads an infiltration team into Klingon space to expose Gowron
and, they hope, end the Klingon/Federation war.
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"Apocalypse Rising" nicely encapsulates the way I felt about DS9's
fourth season. I said at the end of that season that I'd enjoyed it
tremendously, was looking forward to more, but felt ambivalent about
the Big Picture [tm]. "Apocalypse Rising" evoked a lot of the same
feelings, and I'm not sure why.
Almost from the very start, however, "Apocalypse Rising" made me
feel better in one way about season five than it did about season four
-- and that's in the use of Kira. Unlike "Body Parts", which I've
heard referred to disparagingly as "DS9 does Three's Company" in its
use of Kira, and unlike "Broken Link", which used Kira as a source
both of sneezes and of mirth, "Apocalypse Rising" started off with a
marvelous Kira/Worf scene that showed her calm, but very forceful
and unwilling to back down. That put my mind at ease early on, and
the Kira/Dukat scene later where she plays with his mind only added
to the good feeling. (The little smirk she has as the lift doors close
makes the entire scene.) I'm still not positive about the Kira/Bashir
scene -- it felt a bit too bland and a bit too proud of itself, although
Kira's "this [pregnancy] is all YOUR fault" made for a great line if
one takes it as a line between the actors and not the characters -- but in
any case, I felt a lot better about Kira after this week than I have in
months.
I'm not sure I can say the same about the main plot of the show, Sisko
and company going undercover to expose Gowron's true identity.
Much like Picard's undercover mission into Cardassian story, I had
some serious qualms about the logic behind the idea. Sisko being on
the team I have to more or less accept as a dramatic necessity, but I'm
not sure about a real reason for it. Given Sisko, however, two of the
remaining three team members make sense: Worf does, for obvious
reasons, and Odo does for his knowledge of Changeling behavior.
O'Brien, however, made very little sense; engineering skill or not, I
doubt there would have been much he could do had the prototype
Technobabble Inducers gone on the fritz, and he wasn't a convincing
Klingon in attitude or in appearance. (Physically, the makeup really
didn't work for Meaney or Auberjonois, but Meaney really got the
shaft, coming off looking like the local Klingon village idiot.) If a
fourth team member were needed, and it simply had to be a regular
cast member instead of, oh, some character *trained* in undercover
espionage missions, I have a good candidate: how about Dax? We
saw female warriors there (though not many, which may be the only
argument against using her), she's handy with a bat'leth, and she
knows Klingon ways better than anybody on the station except Worf.
Given the team as presented, though, I spent much of the first two-
thirds of the show wondering how this plan was possibly expected to
work given the poor choices made, and that detracted a bit.
[The technical issues of the plan also struck me as intensely silly; no
one could design a prototype that only needed ONE device instead of
four? But anyway...]
As such, for the first two thirds or so of the show I was stuck looking
for little things to like; fortunately, there were lots of them. The Kira
scenes I mentioned earlier were two of them, of course, and there
were also a few great moments with O'Brien (one being his muttered
"I hate prototypes" and the other being his way of casually leaning
against a column during the briefing instead of sitting -- a nice
directing choice). The Sisko/Odo scene in Quark's came off well
enough -- Odo's sitting around and brooding over his fate, which is
entirely to be expected, and Sisko's direct order to him was probably
exactly what he needed. I enjoyed just about every scene Dukat was
in (not surprisingly), and Sisko made a convincing enough Klingon in
appearance and in behavior that I enjoyed watching Brooks chew
scenery a lot. (His "brag all you want -- but don't get between me and
the blood wine!" scene was a good case in point; one really got the
feeling that he knew *exactly* what his excuse for beating up on the
other Klingon was going to be before he began lifting a finger.)
Once Gowron appeared, however, I started paying a lot more attention
to the plot. At first I was really worried, as Sisko's behavior struck
me as extremely dumb. Why bother to go up for the ceremony? Just
activate the device and watch all hell break loose. (It's not like
everyone was going to be watching him; since his name had been
planted in the computer, I'd argue that almost no one would know
who he was.) However, Martok's "discovery" of Sisko was at least
well directed, and the final act of the show was marvelous.
I said back when "Broken Link" aired that I didn't care for the idea of
Gowron being a Changeling plant very much, and that's true -- but I
rather like the idea of the Founders feeding Odo disinformation. In
fact, I like that a lot. If they're going to suborn someone in the
Klingon Empire, and if they really want to keep the Federation and the
Klingons fighting, there are few better ways to do it than to trick
Federation officers into an unnecessary assassination and to martyr
Gowron for the Dominion's ends. Having Odo see through it was
marvelous, and Martok's "there's no telling where your loyalties lie"
is a line that works whether you know Martok's a Changeling or not,
which is extremely nice. I also worried quite vocally that Gowron's
exposure would be "activating the reset button" and ending all the
Federation/Klingon problems for good, and dialogue here at least
suggested that said reset button had not been pushed. The Klingon
affair may be pushed into background status for a while, and I think
that's perfectly fine -- as long as it doesn't go away just because a
Changeling's been ferreted out, I don't feel particularly cheated.
Overall, then, "Apocalypse Rising" was rather different from the
normal end of a cliffhanger (which technically this wasn't, but it's the
closest thing to a season-straddling cliffhanger that DS9 has had to
date). Second halves of Trek cliffhangers often seem to have no idea
how to get out of the first half, and sloppy logic and questionable
ideas abound. Here, much of the core idea for how to get out of the
"Gowron's a Changeling" issue was in place from the start, and very
well put -- but along the way, there was entirely too much macho
head-butting and not enough clear thinking for my tastes. I'd call that
a step up, though -- with the idea in place, building to it may be a bit
easier.
So, some shorter notes:
-- For a highest-honor-of-the-high Klingon ceremony, that one was
pretty wimpy. No blood? No pain? No snarls of agony? No fights
to the death? Just a drink-and-wrestle all-nighter? Hell, I know lots
of people who did worse than that in college, and they never picked
up a medal for it. :-)
-- "It's not easy being funny wearing these teeth." I'm not sure why I
enjoyed that line, but I did.
-- As I said, the logic of having Worf on the team was inescapable --
but why on Earth did they let him keep his own face? For heaven's
sake, Gowron *knows* Worf -- knows him well, in fact. For Martok
to recognize Sisko and not Worf is intensely dumb.
-- Martok's disposal of guards en route to the attempt on Gowron was
very efficient, and very ruthless. I rather liked it. (I was also
reminded just a little bit of the assassination of Caligula in "I,
Claudius", though probably for no good reason.)
That should about cover it. "Apocalypse Rising" wasn't really worth
a three-month wait, but after that kind of buildup few shows are. It
was a very modern-day DS9 opening to the season; we'll see where
things go from here.
So, to close:
Writing: I like the core ideas around Odo and around Gowron not
being the real Changeling -- but, like TNG's "Chain of
Command", I had some distinct problems with the ideas for
the mission.
Directing: No complaints; the Sisko/Odo scene in Quark's had just the
right tinge of melancholy, and the last act was heavenly.
Acting: Apart from the twenty-seven thousand extras paid mostly to
stand around in makeup and grunt loudly (okay, so Klingon-
fests don't wow me), I was pretty satisfied.
OVERALL: About the same as "Broken Link", I think -- a 7. A solid
but not stellar opening.
NEXT WEEK:
Sisko takes a Jem'Hadar ship carrying a secret.
Tim Lynch (Harvard-Westlake School, Science Dept.)
tly...@alumni.caltech.edu <*>
"Shakaar's not the father."
"Then who is?"
"Chief O'Brien."
-- Kira playing with Dukat's mind
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Junsok Yang
No spoilers about plot; Some spoilers of certain dialogue, though...
In article <536sml$n...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, tly...@alumnae.caltech.edu
says...
>I'm still not positive about the Kira/Bashir
>scene -- it felt a bit too bland and a bit too proud of itself,
although
>Kira's "this [pregnancy] is all YOUR fault" made for a great line if
>one takes it as a line between the actors and not the characters --
but in
>any case, I felt a lot better about Kira after this week than I have
in
>months.
I had a problem with that scene, actually. It seemed too clear that
the
actors were breaking out of their roles. Bashir and Kira never really
had a
chemistry with each other (unlike the actors, obviously...) but here
they
were joking like old buddies; and the way they beamed and glowed at
each
other, well, the romantic in me thinks it's nice, but the logical
critic in
me think the actors were entirely unprofessional. I should warn you
that I
usually strangle the romantic in me with extreme prejudice.
>-- For a highest-honor-of-the-high Klingon ceremony, that one was
>pretty wimpy. No blood? No pain? No snarls of agony? No fights
>to the death? Just a drink-and-wrestle all-nighter? Hell, I know
lots
>of people who did worse than that in college, and they never picked
>up a medal for it. :-)
I liked Worf's line about how this was not only a celebration, but
also an
endurance test. It shows that the writers are at least trying to be
subtle
about the Klingon culture. Between that line and Worf's "How to be a
Klingon
in 5 Easy Lessons," it does seem like the DS9's writers are trying to
get
into the head of being a Klingon, which is always a nice thing when
trying
to write about aliens and their culture.
As for medals in college, weren't there some porcelain ones? :)
Also, I liked the matter-of-fact ruthlessness of Dukat. It reminds
us
that Dukat was originally meant to be a quite effective *villain*
before
they turned him into a teddy bear.
>"Shakaar's not the father."
>"Then who is?"
>"Chief O'Brien."
> -- Kira playing with Dukat's mind
Why point out that Kira's playing with Dukat's head? Why not play
around
with the readers' heads as well (at least those who are only casual
watchers
of DS9 who don't entirely know what's going on; but SHOULD.) :)
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Junsok Yang
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Timothy W. Lynch
makes the entire scene.) I'm still not positive about the Kira/Bashir
scene -- it felt a bit too bland and a bit too proud of itself, although
Kira's "this [pregnancy] is all YOUR fault" made for a great line if
one takes it as a line between the actors and not the characters -- but in
any case, I felt a lot better about Kira after this week than I have in
months.
I'm not sure I can say the same about the main plot of the show, Sisko
So, some shorter notes:
-- For a highest-honor-of-the-high Klingon ceremony, that one was
pretty wimpy. No blood? No pain? No snarls of agony? No fights
to the death? Just a drink-and-wrestle all-nighter? Hell, I know lots
of people who did worse than that in college, and they never picked
up a medal for it. :-)
-- "It's not easy being funny wearing these teeth." I'm not sure why I
enjoyed that line, but I did.
-- As I said, the logic of having Worf on the team was inescapable --
but why on Earth did they let him keep his own face? For heaven's
sake, Gowron *knows* Worf -- knows him well, in fact. For Martok
to recognize Sisko and not Worf is intensely dumb.
-- If Martok was a Changeling back when we first met him, there's an
interesting implication. He was one of the people who was really
adamant about blood screenings, and was the first we saw intentionally
slice himself open to prove himself legitimate. if he was a
Changeling even then, it implies that the Founders *always* had a way
around the screenings, and that they were simply a red herring to give
the Alpha Quadrant a useless project to work on. I like that idea a
whole lot.
-- Martok's disposal of guards en route to the attempt on Gowron was
very efficient, and very ruthless. I rather liked it. (I was also
reminded just a little bit of the assassination of Caligula in "I,
Claudius", though probably for no good reason.)
That should about cover it. "Apocalypse Rising" wasn't really worth
a three-month wait, but after that kind of buildup few shows are. It
was a very modern-day DS9 opening to the season; we'll see where
things go from here.
So, to close:
Writing: I like the core ideas around Odo and around Gowron not
being the real Changeling -- but, like TNG's "Chain of
Command", I had some distinct problems with the ideas for
the mission.
Directing: No complaints; the Sisko/Odo scene in Quark's had just the
right tinge of melancholy, and the last act was heavenly.
Acting: Apart from the twenty-seven thousand extras paid mostly to
stand around in makeup and grunt loudly (okay, so Klingon-
fests don't wow me), I was pretty satisfied.
OVERALL: About the same as "Broken Link", I think -- a 7. A solid
but not stellar opening.
NEXT WEEK:
Sisko takes a Jem'Hadar ship carrying a secret.
Tim Lynch (Harvard-Westlake School, Science Dept.)
tly...@alumni.caltech.edu <*>
"Shakaar's not the father."
"Then who is?"
"Chief O'Brien."
-- Kira playing with Dukat's mind
Gary Himes
Tim wrote:
>Almost from the very start, however, "Apocalypse Rising" made me
>feel better in one way about season five than it did about season four
>-- and that's in the use of Kira. Unlike "Body Parts", which I've
>heard referred to disparagingly as "DS9 does Three's Company" in its
>use of Kira, and unlike "Broken Link", which used Kira as a source
>both of sneezes and of mirth, "Apocalypse Rising" started off with a
>marvelous Kira/Worf scene that showed her calm, but very forceful
>and unwilling to back down. That put my mind at ease early on, and
>the Kira/Dukat scene later where she plays with his mind only added
>to the good feeling. (The little smirk she has as the lift doors close
>makes the entire scene.) I'm still not positive about the Kira/Bashir
>scene -- it felt a bit too bland and a bit too proud of itself, although
>Kira's "this [pregnancy] is all YOUR fault" made for a great line if
>one takes it as a line between the actors and not the characters -- but
in
>any case, I felt a lot better about Kira after this week than I have in
>months.
Agree that Kira seems improved here--no longer the butt of the joke, but
rather the one telling them. The scene with Bashir, however, would've
been a lot funnier with a bit more subtlety. I hope this has got the
"Yes, Nana and Sid are an item and we're gonna make a cute reference to
it" business out of their system. Too many in-jokes and we might just
end up seeing Kira tap dance in the future. :-)
( And while I might be mistaken, didn't it look like she's lost the
fershlugginer high heels?)
>If a fourth team member were needed, and it simply had to be a regular
>cast member instead of, oh, some character *trained* in undercover
>espionage missions, I have a good candidate: how about Dax? We
>saw female warriors there (though not many, which may be the only
>argument against using her), she's handy with a bat'leth, and she
>knows Klingon ways better than anybody on the station except Worf.
The reason Dax wasn't included was due to the fact that Terry Farrell is
allergic to the latex makeup necessary for a Klingon appearance. But, yes,
they DID need to address this within the show itself.
Welcome back Tim. We don't agree on everything, but I still enjoy
reading your reviews (and how much fun are people you can't disagree with
once in a while?).
Gary Himes
NEXT WEEK: One hundred episodes. My, how the time flies...
Londo Mollari
Tim Lynch <tly...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> -- "It's not easy being funny wearing these teeth." I'm not sure why I
> enjoyed that line, but I did.
If anyone ever gets to see Robert O'Reilly (Gowron) in real life
be sure to ask him about saying "Analysis" with Klingon teeth.
Personally, I would not be surprised if the writing staff picked up
that line from an actor made up to be a Klingon.
For all its worth, here is my quick review of "Apocalypse Rising":
It was an entertaining letdown.
--
"The Universe is a great place to visit,
but I'd sure hate to live there."
- Alfred Bester
Shawn Hill
Timothy W. Lynch (tly...@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote:
: cast member instead of, oh, some character *trained* in undercover
: espionage missions, I have a good candidate: how about Dax? We
: saw female warriors there (though not many, which may be the only
: argument against using her), she's handy with a bat'leth, and she
Actually I'd say that was an argument against the episode itself. Dax was
a great choice, and so few female warriors seemed wrong in a culture
they've gone out of their way to establish has strong, agressive females.
: [The technical issues of the plan also struck me as intensely silly; no
: one could design a prototype that only needed ONE device instead of
: four? But anyway...]
Really, the more they explained it, the more I went "this lis like
technobabble, except unneccesarily complex!"
: in (not surprisingly), and Sisko made a convincing enough Klingon in
: appearance and in behavior that I enjoyed watching Brooks chew
: scenery a lot. (His "brag all you want -- but don't get between me and
: the blood wine!" scene was a good case in point; one really got the
: feeling that he knew *exactly* what his excuse for beating up on the
: other Klingon was going to be before he began lifting a finger.)
He made a better Klingon than he does a Starfleet Officer. He made a
better Pirate, too. This guy needs to turn evil (maybe due to some silly
technobabble) and fight Worf for the station. Or something. They could
draw it out over weeks.
: Gowron for the Dominion's ends. Having Odo see through it was
: marvelous, and Martok's "there's no telling where your loyalties lie"
: is a line that works whether you know Martok's a Changeling or not,
: which is extremely nice. I also worried quite vocally that Gowron's
: exposure would be "activating the reset button" and ending all the
: Federation/Klingon problems for good, and dialogue here at least
: suggested that said reset button had not been pushed. The Klingon
: affair may be pushed into background status for a while, and I think
: that's perfectly fine -- as long as it doesn't go away just because a
: Changeling's been ferreted out, I don't feel particularly cheated.
Really stupid of the Changeling to reveal himself by trying to strangle
Odo, wasn't it? Why didn't he lie, get somewhere alone, and turn into a
chair?
: -- For a highest-honor-of-the-high Klingon ceremony, that one was
: pretty wimpy. No blood? No pain? No snarls of agony? No fights
: to the death? Just a drink-and-wrestle all-nighter? Hell, I know lots
: of people who did worse than that in college, and they never picked
: up a medal for it. :-)
I kept thinking they were building UP to a big ceremony, too. Oops.
: -- "It's not easy being funny wearing these teeth." I'm not sure why I
: enjoyed that line, but I did.
Because like the Kira/Bashir exchange, it was an in-joke for the actors.
: -- As I said, the logic of having Worf on the team was inescapable --
: but why on Earth did they let him keep his own face? For heaven's
: sake, Gowron *knows* Worf -- knows him well, in fact. For Martok
: to recognize Sisko and not Worf is intensely dumb.
And Dax really should have been there. What a mixed opportunity. As
someone with 6 personalities (correct?), she should have a leg up on the
acting requirement, too. She would have had as much fun as Sisko.
: -- Martok's disposal of guards en route to the attempt on Gowron was
: very efficient, and very ruthless. I rather liked it. (I was also
: reminded just a little bit of the assassination of Caligula in "I,
: Claudius", though probably for no good reason.)
That too helped give him away to Odo, I think -- it seemed very
dishonorable.
: That should about cover it. "Apocalypse Rising" wasn't really worth
: a three-month wait, but after that kind of buildup few shows are. It
: was a very modern-day DS9 opening to the season; we'll see where
: things go from here.
: Acting: Apart from the twenty-seven thousand extras paid mostly to
: stand around in makeup and grunt loudly (okay, so Klingon-
: fests don't wow me), I was pretty satisfied.
But it looked cool!
: OVERALL: About the same as "Broken Link", I think -- a 7. A solid
: but not stellar opening.
I'd even go for six, due to the overall silliness factor. But, pretty
fun, as you said.
Shawn
* . * . * . * .
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A: "You're the captain's woman...until he says you're not."
. * . * . *sh...@fas.harvard.edu
Edwin Yoo
> "Apocalypse Now". "Apocalypse Rising" is the premiere episode for
> DS9's fifth season, and that's what has spoilers for it below.
>
> In brief: Part of me's saying that "there wasn't much there", but on
> the whole it was a pretty entertaining hour.
> I said back when "Broken Link" aired that I didn't care for the idea of
> Gowron being a Changeling plant very much, and that's true -- but I
> rather like the idea of the Founders feeding Odo disinformation.
we do NOT i repeat do NOT know the status of gowron!!!!
his identity is NEVER tested. therefore, there may have been 2
changlings. gowron is STILL not confirmed.
(super babylon 5 induced paranoia)
> -- If Martok was a Changeling back when we first met him, there's an
> interesting implication. He was one of the people who was really
> adamant about blood screenings, and was the first we saw intentionally
> slice himself open to prove himself legitimate. if he was a
> Changeling even then, it implies that the Founders *always* had a way
> around the screenings, and that they were simply a red herring to give
> the Alpha Quadrant a useless project to work on. I like that idea a
> whole lot.
ooh, good point !!!! but bashir is our man. so i figure the test is
good. i am still arguing that gowron's true identity has yet to be
tested.
> Writing: I like the core ideas around Odo and around Gowron not
> being the real Changeling
we do not know this. ;)
--
_____
"why can't these creatures discover a little dignity? i ask the sky.
the sky says nothing, predictably. i make a face, uplift a defiant
middle finger, and give an obscene little kick. the sky ignores me,
forever unimpressed."
- "grendel", john gardner
edwin yoo
http://ryan4-2.student.harvard.edu/~edwinyoo
Ian McIntire
Spoilers follow:
sh...@husc7.harvard.edu (Shawn Hill) wrote:
>Really stupid of the Changeling to reveal himself by trying to strangle
>Odo, wasn't it? Why didn't he lie, get somewhere alone, and turn into a
>chair?
Makes you suspicious, doesn't it?
Ian "Polonius" McIntire i...@cwru.edu
"Fire, on the other hand, is a relatively recent discovery..."
-from "Dealing with a Devil," available on ADWC and ATXFC
Andy Kim
In article <536tv1$o...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
Timothy W. Lynch <tly...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
>"Apocalypse Rising" nicely encapsulates the way I felt about DS9's
>fourth season. I said at the end of that season that I'd enjoyed it
>tremendously, was looking forward to more, but felt ambivalent about
>the Big Picture [tm]. "Apocalypse Rising" evoked a lot of the same
>feelings, and I'm not sure why.
I am not sure why you were not sure. AR was an extension of a Season 4
episode, and was typical of Season 4 episode: crafty and entertaining
overall, but still a departure from its original premise. Whether this
trend will continue or not this season -- it probably will -- still remains
to be seen.
>any case, I felt a lot better about Kira after this week than I have in
>months.
Indeed.
>espionage missions, I have a good candidate: how about Dax? We
A very good point. I also thought O'Brien is not a convincing Klingon and
Worf's face should have been altered more drastically, given his past
history with Gowron.
And I _love_ what DS9 has done to Dukat in Season 4 and I loved him here.
This is a character who has evolved very nicely and Alamo has a quite
commending screen presence. Classic Dukat all the way around.
That being said, I found it somewhat unconvincing that Dukat could drive
his Bird of Prey as freely as he did. I mean, Klingons _must_
be keeping track of every BoP they have, and they must have found something
odd about this one. So Dukat has Holo-projection, but don't scans usually
tell you what species are on board? Early in the episode, O'Brien reports
about Rio Grande approaching "2 lifeforms on board, a human and a trill."
or somesuch. Maybe Dukat knows every trick in the book and can get away
with lots of things but I don't know whether he can masquerade as a Klingon
this long -- surely he cannot blow everyone up whenever he is in trouble.
And Dukat showed remarkably little resistance over this mission. OK, it's
not his neck on the line, and he can have Fed to eliminate his nemesis, the
Klingons, but he was risking his disguise to be unveiled. Even if Sisko &
Co. has succeeded in their mission, wouldn't Gowron question, "Wait a sec.
How did these guys get here?"
And when I saw Dukat's BoP docked at DS9, "Where is Klingon intelligence?!"
It is a minor point and did not hurt the episode much, but it bothered me a
little.
>[The technical issues of the plan also struck me as intensely silly; no
>one could design a prototype that only needed ONE device instead of
>four? But anyway...]
Not to mention they were _spheres_. What were they going to do if there
were no (4) statues? Someone should remind fed about adhesives or velcros.
And I thought any non-changeling inside the square would die of radiation.
Were they going to kill every Klingon in it, or did I miss something?
>which is extremely nice. I also worried quite vocally that Gowron's
>exposure would be "activating the reset button" and ending all the
>Federation/Klingon problems for good, and dialogue here at least
>suggested that said reset button had not been pushed. The Klingon
>affair may be pushed into background status for a while, and I think
>that's perfectly fine -- as long as it doesn't go away just because a
>Changeling's been ferreted out, I don't feel particularly cheated.
On the other hand, I hope we don't have to see many more Klingon episodes.
I thought the whole Klingon thing was an excuse to justify Worf on DS9 and
writers had to write some episodes for him. Not the case anymore. We have
enough villains in DS9 as it is, and the presence of Klingons will take
more episodes from Bajorans than Dominions for whom the writers are forced
to write episodes for. Klingons were done to death (esp. Worf the
deserted) already in TNG and DS9, and they just don't produce good episodes
anymore -- they were the weakest ones in Season 4. Even though sudden
closure on Klingons may feel artifical, but since the start was artificial
itself, I won't object too much.
I won't mind seeing some Romulans either. If not, just _tell us_ what's up
with them!
>-- For a highest-honor-of-the-high Klingon ceremony, that one was
>pretty wimpy. No blood? No pain? No snarls of agony? No fights
>to the death? Just a drink-and-wrestle all-nighter? Hell, I know lots
>of people who did worse than that in college, and they never picked
>up a medal for it. :-)
Testing endurance by partying...heh. :)
-ak
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Chris Biebel
In article <53j7m0$4...@panix.com>, and...@panix.com (Andy Kim) wrote :
> And when I saw Dukat's BoP docked at DS9, "Where is Klingon
> intelligence?!"
Isn't that an oxymoron? ;-) (Couldn't resist!)
Seriously, think about the Intelligence Agencies of 3 of the races:
Romulans (Tal Shiar), Cardassians (Obsidian Order), and Klingons. The
Tal Shiar was able to successfully get an agent into a high ranking
position in the Federation and get her back home on the Enterprise
(Data's Day). The Obsidian Order probably still has a bunch of agents on
Bajor who don't even know that they ARE agents. ("Second Skin"). The
only time we see the Klingon Intelligence, they are discovered by Odo
and put in prison!! (Forget the episode, the one with O'Brien moving
ahead in time)
> And I thought any non-changeling inside the square would die of
> radiation. Were they going to kill every Klingon in it, or did I miss
> something?> ?
No, they would be killed with a SECOND exposure, so they could only do
it once, hence the need to do it in public.
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Tony Li
Chris Biebel <clbi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>The
>only time we see the Klingon Intelligence, they are discovered by Odo
>and put in prison!! (Forget the episode, the one with O'Brien moving
>ahead in time)
The episode was the 3rd season "Visionary".
Tony Li
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine--On the edge of the final frontier.
Its mission:
To protect the sector from threats, and explore the unknown,
to prepare Bajor for entrance into the Federation,
to meet new people boldly going where they've never gone before.