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Reg Hems

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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At the SE Acorn show a few months ago I bought a 2nd hand Castle SCSI
card and talked to somebody on the Acorn stand who, very helpfully,
pointed me in the right direction. I have now an 500 Mb IDE and an
1 Gb SCSI (3 partitions) in my 420/1. Bliss :-))

However, during that conversation he also said that the upgrade
capabilities of Acorn machines did nothing really for the continuing
growth of the company. They needed people to buy new machines, not
continue to upgrade.

Since 1982 I have had the BBC B (issue 3), some 6 years ago the 420/1
and 3 years ago a BBC B (issue 7) in a carboot sale, because my
issue 3 wouldn't fire up (a continuing tone instead of bepop).

So, I am guilty myself of not supporting Acorn :-((

However, that said, I do believe (wishful thinking?) that there is
still a future if somebody could get the marketing act together
*outside* this band of dedicated Acorn enthusiasts and *outside*
the insidious influence of socalled managers who state in all
seriousness that they do not need to know anything about their
products BECAUSE they are MANAGERS.

Perhaps now is the time to get Hermann Hauser back in the Acorn fold,
like a Phoenix rising from the ashes (??)


I posted an extract from two articles in The Independent of 22 Aug
written by a MAC enthusiast\user and I have copied it here without
comment.

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:52:12 +0100
Message-ID: <487a98b3...@argonet.co.uk>

>> IMO, it /is/ relevant to we Acorn users who are thinking about
>> changing up to RiscPC/Phoebe that PCs are so cheap [......]

> The Independent 22 Aug 1998 (half a page spread with photograph)

> See-through computer set for a sell-out.

> ".....And Apple's new iMac, which goes on sale in Britain in two
> weeks, is already the fastest-selling personal computer of recent
> times. When it went on sale in the US seven days ago, more than
> 150,000 machines, many ordered in advance, were sold in the first
> weekend....

> ....But besides marking a minor rebirth for Apple, the
> turquoise-and-white /translucent/ casing of the iMac could also
> see the end of the beige plastic breeze-blocks that have plagued
> desks since 1982, when IBM launched the first PC. At long last,
> design has caught up with the computer market.
> [.......]
> The iMac arrives in the UK on 5 Sep with a price tag of £999
> including VAT. Besides computer stores, it will also be on sale
> via John Lewis......
> [.....]
> A number of American stores said that they had received orders
> for iMacs from existing PC owners "coming over" to the MacIntosh
> operating system - breaking a trend that has continued for more
> than a decade."


> The Independent 24 Aug 1998 (Network page of the Monday review)
> 1. /Have you ever been unfaithful to a PC supplier?/
> .... about after sales service earning customer loyalty.
> 2. /One bite of the Apple and they're hooked/
> Of all computer users, those with Macs are probably the most
> loyal.
> [......] The return of Steve Jobs..... , reflects the way
> Apple users see themselves better than the grey suits who ran
> the company (almost into the ground) over the last decade.
> [......] any complaints I may have about it are countered by
> the fact that the Mac so rarely stops me doing my job and is
> (relatively) easy to correct when it does. Besides, Apple did
> at least know about the next century, so even my other,
> 11-year-old Mac won't stop working in the year 2000.
> [....] Buying a computer may be a commercial decision; buying
> a Mac is an emotional choice. At least it now it no longer
> looks as if it will end in tears."

> I almost wrote to 'Readers Letters' but decided that perhaps I
> would not be able to put similar comments about Acorn in succinct
> terms for maximum effect.

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Vernon Cowdy

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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In article <48877d8c...@argonet.co.uk>, Reg Hems

<reg...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Perhaps now is the time to get Hermann Hauser back in the Acorn fold,
> like a Phoenix rising from the ashes (??)

H Hauser (Non Executive Director) Acorn Group PLC

- he seems to be on the board still.


regards

Vernon Cowdy

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Edward F. Puplett

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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In message <48877d8c...@argonet.co.uk> Reg Hems wrote:

I second the name of Phoenix for a risen Phoebe.


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Kai

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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In article <19980919....@puplett.demon.co.uk>, Edward F. Puplett

<URL:mailto:edw...@puplett.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <48877d8c...@argonet.co.uk> Reg Hems wrote:
>
> I second the name of Phoenix for a risen Phoebe.

OK, well I actually like Phoenix, good name for 'it'.

Shame they cancelled it, pricing looked somewhat more
realistic...

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Timothy Baldwin

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Sep 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/21/98
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In message <19980919....@puplett.demon.co.uk>

edw...@puplett.demon.co.uk (Edward F. Puplett ) wrote:

> In message <48877d8c...@argonet.co.uk> Reg Hems wrote:
>
> I second the name of Phoenix for a risen Phoebe.

Phoenix is also being considered is the Forbidden Technologies/U*ix camp,
be careful not to end up with two projects the same name.

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Sveinung W. Tengelsen

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Sep 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/22/98
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In article <7887ca8848%t...@reinhouse.demon.co.uk>, Timothy Baldwin

<URL:mailto:t...@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <19980919....@puplett.demon.co.uk>
> edw...@puplett.demon.co.uk (Edward F. Puplett ) wrote:
>
> > In message <48877d8c...@argonet.co.uk> Reg Hems wrote:
> >
> > I second the name of Phoenix for a risen Phoebe.
>
> Phoenix is also being considered is the Forbidden Technologies/U*ix camp,
> be careful not to end up with two projects the same name.

There already are. 8)

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Mike Kinghan

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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In message <na.09b7084887...@argonet.co.uk>
Vernon Cowdy <v.c...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]


>
> H Hauser (Non Executive Director) Acorn Group PLC
>
> - he seems to be on the board still.
>
>

Yep, he owns 4 or 7% of Acorn. I forget which.


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