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Sep 5, 1989, 1:48:26 PM9/5/89
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*NOT* a call for VOTES
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This is to invite OPINIONS about creating a newsgroup to be
called "soc.culture.korea(n)". It is intended to serve as a
forum for discussions about culture, history, language, people,
cuisine, politics, and anything else pertaining to Korea.

Korea, together with China and Japan, is one of the important
countries of East Asia. It has a recorded history of over
2,000 years, during which, besides developing in its own unique
manner it has been the cultural bridge between China and Japan.

Korea's unique achievements include development of movable metal
type (200 years before Gutenberg), a simple phonetic alphabet
(the only one in East Asia), and the famous blue-green celadon
porcelain. South Korea is also the first country in East Asia
to achieve a democratic government through a popular struggle.
Because of its rapid economic growth it is called one of the
"four tigers" of Asia.

Articles about Korea or Koreans appear on other newsgroups
such as s.c.china (historical relationship between China and
Korea), s.c.japan (Japan and Korea, Koreans in Japan),
s.c.asian.american (origin and history of Korea), and
talk.politics.misc (shooting down of Flight 007, Korean
economy).

There is a lot of interest about South Korea's rapid economic
growth, political developments in Korea, and the Seoul
Olympic Games. There are about 500,000 people of Korean
origin in the U.S.A., many at every University. Recently
Hyundai even started manufacturing cars in North America.

I believe that many people, Koreans as well as other Asian,
American and international friends would be interested in the
proposed newsgroup. My previous posting was intended to draw
attention for this formal proposal. I regret that its light-
hearted manner irritated some people, and invite them to
participate. NO VOTES, please. Followups to news.groups.


Sincerely,

Kim, Min-Sun.

Sung-Zoon Cho

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Sep 5, 1989, 4:05:19 PM9/5/89
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I would very much like to see a new newsgroup "soc.culture.korea(n)" started.

I have seen many questions asked about the differences among the cultures of
China, Japan and Korea in the "asia" related newsgroups. Yes, there are
numerous differences among these cultures although they "look" similar to
people outside of this goup of cultures.

Also among other interesting topics would be the politics in both Koreas.
Although there has been great progress toward democracy in the past couple
of years in S. Korea, the situation is pretty volatile and nobody can
predict what's going to happen in say 5 years.
North Korea ? Who knows what is happening ?

I think there are a lot of very interesting topics to be discussed in
the proposed newsgroup which can also increase the mutual understanding
between peoples.

-sungzoon cho

Steven Lin

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Sep 5, 1989, 5:16:10 PM9/5/89
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In article <44...@cps3xx.UUCP> ki...@frith.egr.msu.edu () writes:
>
>This is to invite OPINIONS about creating a newsgroup to be
>called "soc.culture.korea(n)". It is intended to serve as a
>forum for discussions about culture, history, language, people,
>cuisine, politics, and anything else pertaining to Korea.
>
Why discuss on SCC? Does S.C.Korea need to be throned by S.C.China?

>countries of East Asia. It has a recorded history of over
>2,000 years, during which, besides developing in its own unique
>manner it has been the cultural bridge between China and Japan.

Korean Air Lines denies that.

>Because of its rapid economic growth it is called one of the
>"four tigers" of Asia.

I heard only "four youg dragons". Did you creat "four tigers" your own?

>Kim, Min-Sun.

Again, why discuss on SCC? Do you need premission?
Do you imply that China has more Korean population than Korea does?
According to PRC report that China has around 5 million Korean group.

Mark Crispin

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Sep 5, 1989, 6:03:36 PM9/5/89
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I think that soc.culture.korea would be an excellent idea.
South Korea's development of economic power and democracy, although
still incomplete, is still nothing short of spectacular. Furthermore,
North Korea's unenviable status as one of the nastiest countries in
the world to live in makes it interesting in itself.

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J. Brewster

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Sep 5, 1989, 10:00:44 PM9/5/89
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Inane parody notwithstanding, I believe that Korean culture
bears as much discussion as others. What about starting out
with a mail list though, and if volume warrants, then propose
a Usenet group?


--
J. Brewster
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Dave Wuertele

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Sep 6, 1989, 8:29:53 PM9/6/89
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Well, it is common judgement that the Korean race is the most beautiful
(physically, and perhaps otherwise) in the entire world. Weather that
justifies an entire newsgroup devoted to praising that beauty is another
matter... In any case, I for one certainly desire to read rantings and
redundant ravings by Experts In The Field, maybe we'll be lucky and have
a higher ratio of Nationals to Knowitalls than we do in s.c.japan. How
bout we just start a rec.soc.Korean.Food group? :-)
DAve.

Usenet file owner

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Sep 7, 1989, 12:13:45 AM9/7/89
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In article <16...@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> wuer...@cory.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Dave Wuertele) writes:
>Well, it is common judgement that the Korean race is the most beautiful
>(physically, and perhaps otherwise) in the entire world.

I won't argue with that. |^)


Many people have been emailing me. It would be even better
if they join the discussion here instead! Anyway here is
my response to what they said:

1. s.c.korea(n) is proposed to be UNMODERATED.

2. One person suggested s.c.korean instead of s.c.korea.
He feels that it would remove the ambiguity about "what
is korea, which korea", etc. such as the question about
"are taiwanese Chinese?" on s.c.china. Actually I have
no strong feelings about the matter. s.c.korean is
perfectly OK with me. Unless anyone else objects I will
henceforth call it s.c.korean.

3. Another person suggested that the customary way to form
a new group is to get kicked out from another group (as
happened with s.c.taiwan). I don't think this is easy
in our case because Taiwan could plausibly be discussed
on s.c.c., whereas Korea would be totally out of place
on s.c.c. or s.c.japan. It would draw immediate flames
instead of suggestions to form a new group.


A lot of people also sent me votes! According to the Usenet
Usenet guidelines I CANNOT COUNT ANY VOTES now. This is still
the discussion period. Whether you support or oppose s.c.korean,
please vote again in about 2 weeks after the official call for
votes.

Thank you.

Kim, Min-Sun

Usenet file owner

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Sep 7, 1989, 8:52:23 PM9/7/89
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In article <44...@cps3xx.UUCP> ki...@frith.egr.msu.edu () writes:

>Korea, together with China and Japan, is one of the important
>countries of East Asia. It has a recorded history of over
>2,000 years, during which, besides developing in its own unique
>manner it has been the cultural bridge between China and Japan.

I was surprised to hear from two of my
Korean friends that Rabindranath Tagore
wrote a poem saying something like

"In the golden days of Asia,
Korea was the lamp of the East.
Let those days soon return"

or words to that effect. (This must
have been during the Japanese occupation).
Apparently this poem is quite
well known in Korea tho' not many
people know who Tagore was! Does anyone
know the original Bengali poem?

Pl. set followups to "news.groups" or
"s.c.indian" depending on where it is more
relevant. I look forward to seeing s.c.korea.


Narayan Sriranga Raja.

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kumar vadaparty

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Sep 7, 1989, 10:06:23 PM9/7/89
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Looks interesting. BTW I also promote the idea of

s.c.Korea.

kumar.

RONALD LEE FERGUSON

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Sep 7, 1989, 9:30:07 PM9/7/89
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I vote yes for the soc.culture.korean news group.
I have many friends in Korea.


Ro...@cup.portal.com
919-822-8145

S. Y. Cheung

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Sep 8, 1989, 12:41:53 PM9/8/89
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In article <21...@cup.portal.com> RO...@cup.portal.com (RONALD LEE FERGUSON) writes:
>I vote yes for the soc.culture.korean news group.
>I have many friends in Korea.
>919-822-8145

Please, no vote has been called for and voting must be done in secret.
Posting your vote does not count as a vote. When it is called for,
send a e-mail message to the proper instance. Be patient and wait
for the vote call....

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