Part 1 of 5 The McVay Files aka Re: Background info on Kenny McVay
Doc Tavish
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Subject: Re: Background info on Kenny McVay
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THE MCVAY FILES
Compiled by Dr D. E. Michael,
CONTENTS
1. Introduction
2. Biodata
2.1 Biography
2.2 Family
2.3 Disability
2.4 Height
2.5 Tastes
2.6 Political affiliations
3. Contact details
3.3 Residential details
3.4 Office details
3.5 E-mail details
4. Financial/business details
4.1 Recent clients
4.2 Employment history
4.2.1 The official version (from Nizkor/McVay)
4.2.2 The unofficial version (from a Toronto newspaper)
4.3 Political funding
5. Negative information
5.1 Sexual sleaze
5.1.1 The Alice in Wonderland gaffe
5.1.2 The 'I fail to see harm' in child pornography gaffe
5.2 The 'anti-racist' who uses racial abuse
5.3 The man who gives advice on drug prices
5.4 The man who offered to kill his own father
5.5 The man who has a history of squabbles with other anti-revisionists
5.5.1 Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger
5.5.2 Sol Littman
5.5.3 Disagreement with unnamed supporters over management of Nizkor
5.5.4 Argument with Yale F. Edeiken, David 'Orac' Gorski and John Morris
regarding use of personal information about supporters of revisionists
5.6 Incompetent and deliberately misleading research
5.6.1. NetGuide errors
5.6.2 Misleading and out-of-context quotations
5.6.3 Plain incompetence - my biography
5.7 The Nizkor funding controversy
5.7.1 Nizkor's official position re. B'nai Brith Canada
5.7.2 The allegation re. B'nai Brith Canada
5.7.3. McVay's responses to the attacks
5.7.4 The San Antonio Fund
5.7.5 Ken Lewis's response to the attacks
5.6.7 Is Nizkor really just a Web site and not an organization?
5.8 Encouragement of denial-of-service attacks on opponents
6. Conclusion
Appendix - note on Usenet and Web citations
1. INTRODUCTION
The following dossier on Mr Kenneth McVay of Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada,
the 'director' of the Nizkor Project, has been compiled entirely from public
domain resources. Copious notes give sources for particular items of
information. All of the information is correct and easily verifiable as at
December 2002. It will obviously need to be updated from time to time. In
particular, Mr McVay is very adept at removing embarrassing information from Web
sites rather quickly, so use should be made of historical Internet archiving
resources such as the Internet Archive Wayback Machine
(http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html) to obtain information that has
been removed. The sources given here will need to be updated accordingly to keep
abreast of this. It will be observed that, with a very few exceptions, most of
the information results either from Usenet posts made by Mr McVay to the
Internet, or his own Web pages, or interviews that he has given to the press.
Why prepare a lengthy dossier on Mr McVay? There are several very good reasons.
(a) Mr McVay, as I shall demonstrate, deliberately misrepresents Nizkor's
financial and organizational affairs. It is right that this should be publicized
so that those who fund and do business with this gentleman know the sort of
person with whom they're becoming involved.
(b) Mr McVay's Nizkor Project purports to be an 'educational resource'. It
tries, inter alia, to sell to our schoolchildren a particular view of
revisionist historians and those who make common cause with such historians. I
am thus performing a public service in bringing to the notice of the wider
community some of the more controversial aspects of Mr McVay's life and work,
including his rather poor research, his somewhat sleazy financial associations,
the fact that he has been the subject of much criticism from his own side for
his unorthodox methods, his controversial views on such matters as drugs and
child pornography, and his avowed willingness to commit murder. The fact that he
is a liar also deserves note. If our children are to be 'taught' by men like Mr
McVay, they have every right to know such things about this 'teacher'. So do
their parents.
(c) Mr McVay specializes in collecting dirt on people and using it to smear
them. He is very adept, as will be shown below, at taking quotations out of
context, at giving only half of the story - at misleading. As children and
impressionable minds are the intended targets of his material it is right that
they and their guardians should know a little about the sort of person who is
providing it.
(d) I am a victim of one of Mr McVay's smear campaigns. Mr McVay has posted
many, many articles (often with identical wording) to Usenet accusing me of all
sorts of things of which I am quite innocent. He has even posted some of his
nonsense to local newsgroups in the areas in which he thinks I live - this can
only be intended to damage my good name and to cause harm to my family and to
me. I am not the only person who has had to endure this sort of hate campaign
from Mr McVay. One Mr William Grosvenor of Canada found his name and address
published on McVay's Nizkor Web site. Grosvenor was firebombed. Mr Scott
Bradbury also had his address and telephone number posted on Mr McVay's Web site
and was made the victim of a ferocious campaign of telephone harassment. The
civil law offers no protection when the perpetrator has limited financial
resources and the British police, political to the core, are worse than useless.
In compiling this dossier I am sending a message to Mr McVay that I have not
been intimidated into silence by him and that I will continue to expose him and
his dwindling band of supporters for the dishonest people that they are.
(e) Mr McVay publishes, on his Nizkor site, lengthy dossiers on people -
including myself. Some of us feel that this is an intrusion into our privacy -
particularly as some of the information is incorrect, defamatory, misleading
and/or negative and we are given little or no opportunity to correct it or to
place it in context. It is perhaps only fair that those who use this particular
technique for 'discouraging' debate about World War II history should be sent a
message that the compilation of dossiers is a game at which both sides can play.
I, at least, make a reasonable attempt to get my facts straight.
It is in this spirit of defiance that I proudly present The McVay Files.
D. E. Michael
December 2002
2. BIODATA
2.1 Biography
Born: Santa Clara, California, USA, 2 October 1940.1
Studied: computer science.2
Married: 19613 (subsequently divorced, apparently around 1986 - see below).
Moved: to British Columbia (with family and basset hound), 1967.4
Financial failure: He described what happened next in a Usenet post:5
Once upon a time, millions of salmon ago, I moved my family from a Yankee city
all the way up across the Canadian border and right there about 500 miles up the
arsehole of the world. At the time, I was convinced I had whatever it was it
took to be a pioneer - to hack a home out of the bush and raise my children
there. (I was wrong, but that's often been the case in my life, so I've gotten
used to it :-)) I wanted to buy my daughter a pony. All I had, mind you, to KEEP
a pony, was 160 acres of certified, mosquito-filled raw Canadian bush, but that
rarely prevented me from doing things like buying a horse for my critter, so of
course I bought her one - if anyone cares about that tail, try getting Lisa over
to rec.equestrian to chat, or ask her (politely) via email. I so enjoyed
watching Lisa with that horse that it wasn't long before I went out and bought
her another one - about the size of a small house. When Reality finally set in,
several horse stories later, I realized that there was no way on God's earth
that I could keep those horses, and I had to explain that to my daughter.
He gave more detail of the cause of his financial failure in an interview to The
Idler:6
In Canada with his schoolteacher wife, McVay set up a dedicated server to
connect Salmon farmers, which was used to track the price of fish food and
commodities. When the price of farm-raised fish plunged from $4.00 to $2.00 a
pound, many of his customers went belly-up. But McVay still had contracts to
provide computer service.
Started anti-revisionist work: 1991.7
Began Nizkor: January 1992.8
Awards:
A list of awards supposedly received by Ken McVay's Nizkor site may be found on
that site itself.9 More notable among McVay's awards are the Order of British
Columbia 1995 and the Media Human Rights Award, presented by B'nai Brith Canada,
in March 1996.10 He received an award from Eye magazine for his Nizkor site in
1999.11
Citizenship:
Retains Canadian and US dual citizenship.12 Obtained Canadian citizenship in
1973, 'partially in protest over the war in 'Nam, and partially to express my
thanks to Canada for providing me with training, health care, and a peaceful way
of life'.13
2.2 Family
Father: born 1915, died 1989 of cancer.14 Served in Army Intelligence in the
Pacific theater during WWII.15
Mother born: 1917.16 Built landing craft for Food Machinery Corporation.17
Parental vices: Ken's mother and father were both fond of Martinis.18
Brother: served in the US Marines.19
Marriage(s)
Ken was married to a schoolteacher in 1961,20 from whom he claims he was
divorced after 25 years of marriage (thus around 1986).21 However, he makes
Usenet references to a wife as late as 1992, which suggest that he might have
remarried.22
Descendants
He has four children and eight grandchildren.23 His children consist of three
girls and one boy.
Daughter 1
One daughter is Lisa Lambeth (formerly Lisa Graham). Lisa apparently divorced Mr
Graham24 to marry Mr Garry Lambeth (former e-mail address
gre...@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca [DEFUNCT])
and then split with Mr Lambeth.25 Lisa was the founder of a group called Parents
for Enforcing Regular Child Support (PERCS).26 Lisa appears to have been
involved in some way with a musician by the name of Dan Livingstone, and they
evidently shared an e-mail address, lisa...@home.com (now defunct). Lisa
appears to be involved in promotions work in the music industry. She works from:
Suite 46-855 Howard Avenue, Nanaimo BC, Canada V9R 5V4, tel. 250-753-4571
apparently for Stride Productions, where she is associated with one Nigel Mack.
Lisa's earlier e-mail addresses included: li...@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca [DEFUNCT]
Lisa's last known e-mail address was llam...@nanaimo.ark.com.
Lisa has two daughters: Chelsea, born 1982 (old e-mail address:
che...@oneb2.almanac.bdc.ca {DEFUNCT]), and another girl born 1987, both
apparently by Mr Graham. Chelsea has light brown hair and is interested in
horses, running and music.
Son
McVay has a son who served in the American Marines in the Gulf during Operation
Desert Storm in 1991.27 Specifically, he served in Marine 2nd. LAI Btn28 near
Khafji, Saudi Arabia.29
Prior to serving in the Marines, McVay's son had difficulty finding a job, being
rejected by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.30
After returning from the Gulf he worked for a short period in Portland before
returning to Canada,31 and in 1996 was serving in the US Army.32
In 1991 McVay's son had a Canadian wife and a daughter.33
In June 1996, McVay was to claim that his son was suffering from Gulf War
Syndrome.34, although evidently this was not so severe as to prevent him
remaining in the employ of the US Army as at November of the same year.35
Daughter 2
One of the other daughters was teaching in Portland in 1992.36
Daughter 3
The third daughter was living in Canada in 1992.37
It appears that some of McVay's children other than Lisa have also been
divorced.38
2.3 Disability
Ken now has permanent hearing loss and wears hearing aids.39 He is not in good
health, suffering from tendonitis and carpal tunnel syndrome.40
2.4 Height
6'3"41
2.5 Tastes42
Beer: Newcastle Brown Ale, Waterloo Dark, Ruddles County Ale
Cognac: Remy Martin Grand Champagne, Martel Cordon Bleu
Comedian: John Cleese
Comedy group: Monty Python's Flying Circus
Delis: Montreal: Schwartz's (likes their smoked meat platter). Toronto:
Wolfie's, 670 Sheppard Avenue W. (likes the corned beef sandwich).
Dog: Bassett hound
Pizza joints: Pasta la Vista, Winnipeg, Manitoba La Cantina, Hamilton, Ontario
Politician: Pierre Elliot Trudeau
Scifi: book Endor's Game (Orson Scott Card)
Sports cars: MGTD & BGT, Austin-Healy Sprite, Lotus 7 Mk IV
Stout: Guinness, daft preferred; Murphy's will do in a pinch
Wine (red): Australian Shiraz and Merlots, The Wolf Blass label, from Bilyara
Cellars
Wine (white) bletch
Music: blues, 'new country' music, Beethoven's Ninth Symphony
Motor sport.
2.6 Political affiliations
In 1996 Mr McVay claimed to be apolitical, stating that he had not voted since
1973.43 Nevertheless, he continues to claim Pierre Trudeau as his favourite
politician. He has also expressed admiration for America's Ross Perot 44
3 CONTACT DETAILS
3.1 Residential details:
995 Bowen Road, Apt. 3108, Nanaimo, British Columbia V9R 2A4, Canada. Same
telephone number as office (see below). (Correct at December 2002.)
(Note that on 8 May 1996 Edmonton Jewish Life (EJL) gave his home address as 1
North Morgan Cres., Port Alberni BC V9Y 6C1.45 As at December 2002, there was,
in fact, no number 1 on this particular street.)
3.2 Office details:
462-1150, North Terminal Avenue, Nanaimo BC, Canada V9S 5T8, tel. (250) 616
9431.
Also used the following toll-free number as of October 2002: 877-505-7761
The postal address he uses for this is:
PO Box 244, Station A, Nanaimo BC, Canada, V9R 5K9
His former office address (i.e. that of his consultancy company in the early
1990s, for example on 10 January 1990) was 1B Systems Management Ltd, 4B - 2520
Bowen Road, Nanaimo, BC V9T. It also operated from 5-1601 Bowen Road Nanaimo,
British Columbia V9S 1G7 CA, tel. (604) 758-2499.
3.3 E-mail details
He has used various e-mail addresses including, inter alia:
kmc...@brobeck.com [DEFUNCT]
kmcvay@oneb [DEFUNCT]
kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca [DEFUNCT]
kmc...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca [DEFUNCT]
kmc...@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca [DEFUNCT]
peri...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca {DEFUNCT]
kmc...@island.net [DEFUNCT]
niz...@derechos.org
kenm...@kenmcvay.com
kmc...@nizkor.org
sa...@toccatas.com
wpg...@kenmcvay.com
sup...@webposition.com
kmc...@vex.net
He has someone called Dawn handling his bookings for him.46 Whether this is his
partner, secretary or a volunteer is not clear. Her e-mail address is:
da...@nizkor.org <da...@nizkor.org>
4. FINANCIAL/BUSINESS DETAILS
Kenneth McVay is not, in fact, a full-time employee of Nizkor. Instead he works
as a freelance Internet marketing consultant. He calls himself Ken McVay
Consulting Group and is registered as self-employed.
4.1 Recent clients
These include:
1. Kiosk.ws 47 (telephone 1-819-682-3744). This is owned by Telco Advertising,
38 Belmont Drive, Aylmer, Quebec, Canada J9H 2M7 and run by Frank Therien, Joel
Therien, Jo-Ann Higgs, Olivier Bedard, Billy Neil and Ilona Innus.
2. First Place Software,48 2452 North Malang Road, Joplin, MO 64801, USA
(Telephone 1-417-781-3282)
3. Pro-List49 owned by OpportunitySeekers, PO, Box 1294, Bloomfield, New Jersey
07003, USA. The people behind this are Jim Vigilante and Robert Stemmer.
Telephone: (908) 313-4735.
4. Brobeck, Phleger & Harrison attorneys (multiple addresses - big international
law firm).50
5. Triple Your Money.51 This is owned by GlobalOne, PO Box 1126, Russellville AR
72811, USA. Phone: (479) 967-6335 Fax: (479) 967-7362
6. He also sells an online Internet marketing journal, Wired2Cash, available
from http://kenmcvay.com/.52 This appears to be associated with an organization
called NOAN Inc,53 34 Dale Park Drive, Courtice ON L1E 2Z4, Canada. (01-
905-433-2427)
4.2 Employment history
4.2.1 The official version (from Nizkor/McVay)
Marines: Ken purports to have been in the US marines.54 He claims to have left
the marines in or around 1963.55 He gives his reasons for leaving thus:56
I moved to Canada in 1967. I have an honorable discharge from the Corps, (1963),
but was active in the anti-war movement, and decided that moving to Canada was
preferable to continuing the painful process of watching the United States tear
itself apart over 'Nam.
The cynic might thus be forgiven for concluding that he appears to have fled to
avoid military action.
Provision of computer facilities: On arrival in Canada he provided computer
facilities for salmon farmers and others. This was unsuccessful.57
During the early 1990s he ran a computer consulting firm called 1B Systems
Management Limited,58
operating from 5-1601 Bowen Road Nanaimo, British Columbia V9S 1G7 CA (604)
758-2499 and 4B - 2520 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, BC V9T.
Menial jobs after computer business failed:
While in British Columbia he had numerous menial jobs including seven years
doing construction and maintenance work in sawmills.59
In June 1992 he claimed to be living on less than $13,000 per year. 60
In May 1993 he claimed that he'd been laid off from a software support job in
May 1992.61
In 1994 he was working in a combined convenience store/gas station in British
Columbia.62
Nizkor and speaking By spring 1996 he had given up this job to work full time on
the Nizkor project.63
By 1996 he was earning a small sum of money (which he variously claims was
$1,200 per month and $1,500 per month) from speaking engagements (see funding
below).
In 1999 he was charging $750 per day (negotiable) for his speaking services.64
This asking fee remained the same in 2001.65
His schedule66 indicates that he had a fairly busy speaking schedule in 1999
(the very year when he purported to be in such dire financial difficulties that
he was contemplating selling Nizkor - see below). His schedule became markedly
less busy in 2000, disappeared altogether in 2001, but showed signs of renewed
life late in 2002.
Internet marketing consultancy
By 1999 he was earning his living as an Internet marketing consultant,67 his
home page claiming that 'he earns his living as a consultant, and travels
extensively. His client list includes Justice Canada and the Ontario Ministry of
the Attorney General.' Again, this was at the time when he was announcing to all
and sundry that Nizkor was in such dire straits financially that it was about to
close!
4.2.2 The unofficial version (from a Toronto newspaper)
Much of the above might be fronting something slightly more serious. It is
possible that Mr McVay might have police connections and might in fact be
working under cover in some way with the 'intelligence community'. The cat was
apparently let out of the bag by an article in the Toronto Star, dated 22 March
1999, which stated that Ken McVay was 'a member of the Vancouver police
department for 19 years'.68
Could this be the wrong Ken McVay? Not if one considers that Vancouver is just a
few miles from Nanaimo, and certainly not if one considers the text of the
article:
Speaker Ken McVay, a member of the Vancouver police department for 19 years,
said advocacy groups are also guilty of apathy in response to cyber-hate.'
In 1995, McVay came across an Edmonton man's Web site that targeted homosexuals.
After contacting a Toronto advocacy group in July, 1997, and a gay advocacy
group in the fall of 1997, McVay said he's still waiting for a response.
Silence welcomes hate crimes, he said.
"Unfortunately, hate is a marginalized issue", said McVay, stressing that a
collective powerful voice of millions opposing Internet hate is absent.
It should also be noted that McVay appears to have, or to have had, in 1991,
high-level connections with the American army.69
His father worked for US intelligence, thus McVay has well-established links to
the American intelligence network.70
'Thomas Schwann' has posted the following on McVay's alleged connection with the
'intelligence community':71
I took the liberty to look into the matter about a year
earlier.
=====
The following was deleted from nic.ddn.mil some time between
17 July 1996 and 19 August 1996. However, as of 19 August 1996 the
email address still worked. It was originally captured on 17 July
1996. It disppeared just prior to a 256 copy mailbomb from gryn.org
saying that it was false information. The owner of gryn.org, Alec
Grynspan, openly bragged about having been involved with the Mossad,
i.e. Israeli intelligence.
===
McVay, Ken (KM214)
1B Systems Management Limited
5-1601 Bowen Road
Nanaimo, British Columbia V9S 1G7
CA
(604) 758-2499
=====
and the finger function was disabled after the mailbomb. But note the
the difference between the company name, 1B, and the internet name
oneb as a number can not lead in an internet address.
Some time later I tried it again and finder was working again
and I got this information. The file date for the file on my disk is
12 April 1997.
=====
name server whois.nic.ddn.mil [note on the military nameserver]
results of
finger @oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Login Name TTY Idle When Where
emcc Ed McCrudden pts/11 Sat 16:21
ppp-130.isdn-3.ican.
rasmus Rasmus Lerdorf pts/1 24 Sat 16:49 jetpen.com
jim Jim Mercer pts/10 2:19 Sat 12:45
gecko.reptiles.org
dacole Dave Cole pts/5 1:30 Mon 17:10
graymatter:S.0
erichall Eric Hall *pts/6 1:39 Sat 07:37
cyber3.servtech.com
andrew Andrew Herdman pts/7 1:04 Fri 15:42
ghoul.uunet.ca
leslie Leslie pts/9 Sat 15:01
indy4.indy.net
pjp Peter Philipp *pts/15 14 Sat 15:51
dialin519:S.0
dacole Dave Cole pts/18 20: Fri 15:44
graymatter.net
dacole Dave Cole pts/17 1:47 Sat 02:43
graymatter:S.1
sjohns Stephen Johns pts/21 9:08 Tue 16:00
trt-on22-12:S.1
plaid Alex pts/3 7 Thu 14:43
spc-isp-tor-uas-1-30
pjp Peter Philipp *pts/24 14 Sat 17:03
dialin519:S.2
sjohns Stephen Johns pts/2 37 Sun 21:43
trt-on22-12:S.0
plaid Alex pts/25 19 Sat 14:42
spc-isp-tor-uas-1-30
mot Samantha Lerner pts/30 48 Sat 16:27 fozzy:S.2
mot Samantha Lerner *pts/20 53 Sat 13:05 fozzy:S.1
darcy D'Arcy J. M. Cain pts/23 4 Sat 15:30 druid.com
mot Samantha Lerner pts/19 51 Sat 13:04 fozzy:S.0
mot Samantha Lerner pts/31 1 Sat 14:47 fozzy:S.3
darcy D'Arcy J. M. Cain pts/34 Sat 15:36 druid.com
pjp Peter Philipp *pts/37 Sat 16:05
dialin519:S.1
mattp Matt Pounsett *pts/28 17: Wed 11:02
conundrum.com
plaid Alex pts/12 19 Sat 16:39
spc-isp-tor-uas-1-30
address book kmc...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Login Name TTY Idle When Where
kmcvay Kenneth McVay OBC pts/12 <Mar 31 07:53>
[Note: There have been claims this is a different Ken McVay but a
search of the British Columbia website regarding the OBC, only one Ken
McVay is listed as having been made that award.]
[Note: When it was announced in alt.revisionism that finger was
operating again, it was shut off again within 24 hours. That puts a
direct connection between alt.revisionism and 1B Systems which was
nice of them to demonstrate in real time.]
Dejanews profile
AUTHOR PROFILE: kmc...@oneb.wimsey.bc.CA
There are currently no articles in our database for this
person.
[Note: While the server changes names from wimsey to alamanac, it is
still from 1B (oneb) Systems.
This may be due to one of the following reasons:
It's possible that their messages were cancelled;
This person has never posted to Usenet from this account;
This email address/account name is invalid.
=====
In preparing the message I tried it again. I get the response
that it is a valid record but no information on it.
Dejanews has author profiles
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&gt;Transcription: <A
HREF="<ahref="http://xp9.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=kmc...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca">http://xp9.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=kmc...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca</a>">kmcvay@<B>oneb</B>.almanac.bc.ca</A>
Note the last line, exclusive of html is
kmc...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
[Note: nizkor was originally hosted on almanac.bc.ca]
And finally, someplace out there are the archives of Eye
Magazine, an interview of both McVay and McCarthy and it give McVay
email address as oneb systems.
We have McVay working for a US contractor with access being
hosted on MILNET. This is the original network encompassing DOD, CIA,
NSA and other defense related organizations and activities and their
contractors. Is 1B Systems a legitimate defense contractor? What is a
US defense contractor doing in Canada? What does 1B Management Systems
do for a living? Good luck in finding out as they are not listing on
any open source of DOD contractors.
If not a listed contractor then not DOD making it a black
operation. And if a black operation that leaves us with two
possibilities, CIA and NSA, or are there blacker than black
organizations? So for purposes of discussion CIA is a good as anything
to refer to as the contracting agency.
We have Nizkor originally hosted on a 1B Systems server. Now that
is either a criminal misappropriation of contract funds or
specifically provided for by the contract. There is nothing in between
in that regard. Perhaps it was criminal but as see that as late as
April 1997, McVay is still an employee of 1B Systems.
You will also note a curious lack of mention of such employment
on the various resumes McVay has fronted. At one people he covered his
early years at 1B Systems by claiming to have been a welfare cheat at
the time. Of what purpose a cover story?
What interests the CIA in this matter? Some matter of national
security. What possible national security interest is there for the US
in matters holocaustian? rather dealing with people questioning the
foundations of it?
Is it to cover up the facts of the IMT and US participation in
it? If the US government demonstrably did the IMT and since it has
continued preserving such nonsense for generations, then there are
conclusions to be drawn regarding the US government.
And if the government should become aware of all of the foreign
policy that has followed from it and that continuation becomes
untenable.
It is not so much the initial lie but compounding lie upon lie
regarding it. Fifty years of compouded lie upon lie, false policy upon
false policy.
So yes, the US government has a major interest in the continuation of these
stories without question as much as Israel is not more so.
Ken McVay eventually explicitly denied any connection with the intelligence
community (confusingly referring to himself in the third person initially):72
Mr. McVay has not had a connection with anyone's intelligence community,
although CSIS employees have come to at least one of my presentations... I
forget to ask them for a cheque, though... guess if I'm working for all these
spooks, least they could do is pay me, eh? Never have. Funny, that, me a
professional covert spook and all...
This denial, however, fails to account for the Toronto Star article that clearly
links McVay with the police, an account of his background that is totally at
odds with the account given in his interviews and on his Web sites.
4.3 Political funding
September 1994 his Fascism and Holocaust Archives received funds from
Vancouver-based Committee for Racial Justice.73
But money remains tight, and his aging equipment is consistently on the verge of
collapse."The whole system is in jeopardy--everything is at risk on a minute-to-
minute basis," he says. Last week, however, a group of Vancouver-based admirers
persuaded a local charity, the Committee for Racial Justice, to raise money for
McVay's Fascism and Holocaust Archives--and his one-man crusade may now become a
full-time job.
(It should be noted that McVay's pleas of poverty need to be seen in the context
of the fact that a few months earlier he'd announced that he was in the market
for a new car - a 'Camaro Z28 or TransAm GTA')74
Prior to October 1994 Professor Norman Swartz, Simon Fraser University,
organized a fund for him with the aid of the United Church.75
Despite continued claims of poverty, Mr McVay nevertheless felt himself in a
position to threaten, on 8 November 1995, to sue the administrators of IADFW.NET
for libel regarding material posted on their system to which he had taken
offence.76 As lawsuits for libel require some capital it appears that McVay was
either being less than frank about his true financial status when pleading
poverty or was being utterly dishonest in his threats to sue.
In 'spring' 1996, Canadian Business reported that 'McVay now devotes all of his
time to Nizkor. He earns $1,200 a month from speaking engagements and through
public support, including that of local Jewish groups. His ancient computer was
recently upgraded, thanks to a donation from a Christian businessman.'77 Thus
McVay, who was threatening expensive litigation, was putting it about that he
was on $1,200 per month and couldn't even afford to replace his computer without
the assistance of a benefactor!
However, on 8 May 1996, Edmonton Jewish Life gave a slightly different story:
'He lives on a modest monthly income of $1500, from a trust fund set up by some
wealthy people who've been very generous and mostly plain folk . . .'78
In 1996 his Canadian funds were being collected by The Zikaron Tolerance and
Remembrance Society 6540 East Hastings Street, Suite 221 Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5 and
Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project 1461 Blanshard St. Victoria, BC V8W 2J3.
From September, his American funds were collected by the San Antonio Area
Foundation Nizkor Fund P.O. Box 120366 San Antonio, TX 78212-9566.79
In 1997 his Canadian Nizkor funds were being collected by the League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada.80
On 21 October 1999 the following article appeared in Canadian Jewish News:81
Anti-Holocaust denial Web site's future uncertain
By FRANCES KRAFT
Staff Reporter
TORONTO - An extensive educational Web site that has played a significant role
in debunking Holocaust denial faces a tenuous future, unless further funding is
secured.
Ken McVay, founder and director of the Nizkor Project (www.nizkor.org), said
last week he has sufficient funding to last only until January.
"Even though there has been some very strong support from a few very generous
people, it hasn't been enough," McVay, 59, said in a phone interview from his
home on Vancouver Island, B.C.
He is in the process of determining the site's commercial value, although he
said it is not currently for sale and he does not foresee shutting it down.
McVay has listed the site on www.GreatDomains.com with an "asking price" of
$500,000, based on the size of Nizkor and the amount of traffic it attracts.
The site receives about 9,000 hits a day, said McVay. It has grown from 27 pages
in 1995 to almost 5,000 pages, including the entire transcript of the trial of
Adolf Eichmann, he added.
McVay is proud to have those transcripts, the product of 18 months of
negotiation. "I know that the Holocaust deniers, who absolutely revile this site
and me, refuse to talk about the Eichmann trial. They can't lie about it now."
The job is never-ending, said McVay. Among his current projects, he is working
on making documentation from the Nuremburg trials available.
Although McVay says the years of devoting himself to Nizkor have left him weary,
his tone of voice - and the fact he recently spent four consecutive 20-hour days
on the project - belie his claim. "Of course I care," he asserted. "I never stop
caring. I don't know what I'd do without [Nizkor]. It's my life."
McVay believes that only a "small and very dedicated group of people" does
care.
He guesses that of the estimated 100 to 300 million Internet users in the
world, only about 100 are actively involved in fighting racism on the Net.
Nizkor began when McVay, a non-Jew with a long-standing interest in World War
II, encountered Holocaust denial on the Internet in the early 1990s. He was
angered by the bigotry he perceived.
"I'm still angry," he said. "It makes me angry that there are very few people in
the world who give a damn about this."
A native of Santa Clara, Calif., McVay grew up in a middle-class neighborhood
where, to the best of his knowledge, racism didn't exist. In high school, about
half his friends were not white. "We never thought about it," he said. "Maybe I
was just naive."
Although McVay had read extensively about World War II, he knew little about the
Holocaust per se. "I had just enough background to know that [Holocaust denial]
was crap, but I didn't have a clue why it was crap."
McVay made it his business - his obsession, actually - to learn the truth, and
show it to the rest of the world.
"That's the beauty of the Internet," he said. "Most people exposed to the venom
of Holocaust deniers do not have the time or resources to check the so-called
facts they provide." The Net, he noted, has given him access to prosecutors,
historians and community leaders who have provided Nizkor with testimony and
answers.
Over the years, McVay has developed a worldwide network of dozens of volunteers
to help him access, translate and post material.
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada administers the Nizkor Fund,
through which donations to support the Web site can be channeled.
However, the pleas of poverty appear to have worked again because the Nizkor
site did not collapse; indeed, it continued and the following year Ken
announced: 'Current statistics suggest that the sites will deliver over ten
million pages of text this year.'82
Two years later, in 2002, on an updated version of the same page, McVay
announced:
'Current statistics suggest that the sites will deliver over twelve million
pages of text this year.'
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