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Chris Parrott

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Dec 19, 2002, 2:31:07 PM12/19/02
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Watching Buffy on BBC2 tonight, the musical one

almost 10 minutes cut, including half of some song, music cues, dialogue and
absolutely no swearing or sex.

Good Job BBC2!


Mat Overton

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Dec 19, 2002, 3:01:11 PM12/19/02
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I take it you're being sarcastic ;)

To be fair though, unlike $ky, the Beeb will do a late night uncut repeat,
and they did allow the work "penis" in. Was there a cut when Tara started
floating above the bed? It's maybe my vivid imagination, but I got the
distinct impression that there was, erm, how shall I put this... indiction
of a sexual act taking place just out of camera shot...?!


Neil Hopkins

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Dec 19, 2002, 3:04:57 PM12/19/02
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It was the short version to fit the normal 45 minute US tv slot - I
was surprised that the swearing was left in - one bitch and a bugger
from Spike. I prefer the longer version, but this was Joss Whedon's
edit. Will they be showing the longer version on Friday night?

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Chris Parrott

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Dec 19, 2002, 3:13:22 PM12/19/02
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"Mat Overton" <mat.o...@REMOVElealholm.co.uk> wrote in message
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There wasn't a cut, and yes, there is indeed an.."indication" :-)

I was impressed they didn't cut the penis out....as it were


Dom Robinson

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:20:17 PM12/19/02
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In article <att992$nk2$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>, kevin.p...@btinternet.com
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I'm concerned about this "work penis". Is it like a porn stunt double?
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Dom Robinson

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:21:17 PM12/19/02
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In article <3e0225f3...@news.cis.dfn.de>, neil_h...@hotmail.com says...

> It was the short version to fit the normal 45 minute US tv slot - I
> was surprised that the swearing was left in - one bitch and a bugger
> from Spike. I prefer the longer version, but this was Joss Whedon's
> edit. Will they be showing the longer version on Friday night?
>
It's got a 50-minute slot if that helps.

Steeler

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:47:53 PM12/19/02
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"Neil Hopkins" <neil_h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The slot is for 45 mins


Steeler

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:49:46 PM12/19/02
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BBC will have got the edited version sent (dunno if they got the unedited
one too). most of the cuts were for time - I know the US networks only
showed the longer version once and all repeats are the edit (1 hour with
ads).

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Steeler

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:50:51 PM12/19/02
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you sure? my digiguide says 0.55 - 1.35 (40 mins - which is what the
regular eps run to on BBC)

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Dom Robinson

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:57:59 PM12/19/02
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In article <attphi$moo$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, nom...@nospam.com says...

> "Dom Robinson" <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.186c72d45...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> > In article <3e0225f3...@news.cis.dfn.de>, neil_h...@hotmail.com
> says...
> > > It was the short version to fit the normal 45 minute US tv slot - I
> > > was surprised that the swearing was left in - one bitch and a bugger
> > > from Spike. I prefer the longer version, but this was Joss Whedon's
> > > edit. Will they be showing the longer version on Friday night?
> > >
> > It's got a 50-minute slot if that helps.
> you sure? my digiguide says 0.55 - 1.35 (40 mins - which is what the
> regular eps run to on BBC)

D'oh! It's late. Either I misread or I need to take my 11+ again :)

CindyLover

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Dec 20, 2002, 12:54:41 AM12/20/02
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neil_h...@hotmail.com (Neil Hopkins):

> Will they be showing the longer version on Friday night?

No.

CL

Tony Gowland

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Dec 20, 2002, 4:16:09 AM12/20/02
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I agree. Anything to make that awful piece of arse go by quicker is
thoroughly endorsed by me.

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Chris Ashby

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Dec 20, 2002, 9:02:22 AM12/20/02
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"CindyLover" <Cindylo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> neil_h...@hotmail.com (Neil Hopkins):
> > Will they be showing the longer version on Friday night?
>
> No.

They are now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/buffy/news/02122001.shtml


Thanatos

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Dec 20, 2002, 1:52:38 PM12/20/02
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:20:17 -0000, Dom Robinson <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
wrote:

>I'm concerned about this "work penis". Is it like a porn stunt double?

I'm jealous. It seems to imply that some people have a "work" penis,
and (presumably) a "leisure" penis, while the rest of us mere mortals
have to make do with just the one!

CindyLover

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Dec 20, 2002, 2:08:51 PM12/20/02
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Neil Hopkins:

> > > Will they be showing the longer version on Friday night?
CindyLover:
> > No.
Chris Ashby:

Hell's bells, that was quick!

1. Did they suddenly realise that Sky would never let them hear the
end of it?

2. Why didn't they notice this before?

3. Since it's almost Christmas, why didn't they schedule the longer
version as a Yuletide treat in the FIRST place? Who'd miss some of the
stuff on BBC2? (Ruby Wax and Jeremy Clarkson on the same show. Why?)

Might stay up for that. Followed by "Philly" and "Off Centre" (welcome
return of Kimberley "Annalise from 'Neighbours'" Davies)...

CindyLover

Derek Jolly

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Dec 20, 2002, 3:20:01 PM12/20/02
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Cindylo...@aol.com (CindyLover) wrote in
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> 3. Since it's almost Christmas, why didn't they schedule the longer
> version as a Yuletide treat in the FIRST place? Who'd miss some of the
> stuff on BBC2? (Ruby Wax and Jeremy Clarkson on the same show. Why?)

Fewer programmes to have to switch off. Better they all get lumped
into one. :)
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Captain Black

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Dec 20, 2002, 5:41:24 PM12/20/02
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"Tony Gowland" <to...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Chris Parrott <kevin.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Watching Buffy on BBC2 tonight, the musical one
> >
> > almost 10 minutes cut, including half of some song, music cues,
> > dialogue and absolutely no swearing or sex.
> >
> > Good Job BBC2!
>
> I agree. Anything to make that awful piece of arse go by quicker is
> thoroughly endorsed by me.

Philistine!


Mr. Teatime

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Dec 20, 2002, 8:05:37 PM12/20/02
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he's not alone. watching pretty girls and boys dealing wiht 'teen angst'
while also saving the world from vampires, is something i have real trouble
stomaching. everywhere i look in the media, it's the pretty people who are
important.... in music (avril lavigne aaarg), in tv.... really gets me.
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The Machine

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Dec 20, 2002, 8:11:56 PM12/20/02
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Mr. Teatime <mr_tea...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> he's not alone. watching pretty girls and boys dealing wiht 'teen angst'
> while also saving the world from vampires, is something i have real
trouble
> stomaching. everywhere i look in the media, it's the pretty people who are
> important.... in music (avril lavigne aaarg), in tv.... really gets me.

Funny you should mention Avril Lavigne in a Buffy thread. I always think
she looks like Willow from Buffy.


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Deano

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Dec 20, 2002, 9:10:53 PM12/20/02
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Tony Gowland wrote:
> Chris Parrott <kevin.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Watching Buffy on BBC2 tonight, the musical one
>>
>> almost 10 minutes cut, including half of some song, music cues,
>> dialogue and absolutely no swearing or sex.
>>
>> Good Job BBC2!
>
> I agree. Anything to make that awful piece of arse go by quicker is
> thoroughly endorsed by me.

True but it is a kids programme.
What amazes me is the number of people in their 30s who are totally addicted
to stuff like this (e.g Dawson's Creek et al).


BTW while I haven't watched Buffy in a long while, I bet the monster of the
week (usually nasty and lethal) throws one of the main characters against a
wall instead of dealing them a mortal blow via fangs/claws/bad breath.
Logic goes completely out the window when this happens and it's such a
cliche now they should just play it as a comedy and drop all the dramatic
pretentions. Then we would have a live action Scooby Doo ;)


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Thanatos

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Dec 21, 2002, 3:02:07 AM12/21/02
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:10:53 -0000, "Deano"
<martind...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Tony Gowland wrote:
>> Chris Parrott <kevin.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Watching Buffy on BBC2 tonight, the musical one
>>>
>>> almost 10 minutes cut, including half of some song, music cues,
>>> dialogue and absolutely no swearing or sex.
>>>
>>> Good Job BBC2!
>>
>> I agree. Anything to make that awful piece of arse go by quicker is
>> thoroughly endorsed by me.
>
>True but it is a kids programme.
>What amazes me is the number of people in their 30s who are totally addicted
>to stuff like this (e.g Dawson's Creek et al).

I think it's SMG that accounts for most of that, though I have to say
that her Basset hound eyes and downturned mouth do absolutely nothing
for me.

>BTW while I haven't watched Buffy in a long while, I bet the monster of the
>week (usually nasty and lethal) throws one of the main characters against a
>wall instead of dealing them a mortal blow via fangs/claws/bad breath.
>Logic goes completely out the window when this happens and it's such a
>cliche now they should just play it as a comedy and drop all the dramatic
>pretentions. Then we would have a live action Scooby Doo ;)

I thought that was basically what it's meant to be?

Dom Robinson

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Dec 21, 2002, 3:11:08 AM12/21/02
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In article <3e03b...@news1.vip.uk.com>, the-m...@TURRETS.surfanytime.co.uk
says...

>
> Mr. Teatime <mr_tea...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:au0ep1$gi9$1...@knossos.btinternet.com...
> > he's not alone. watching pretty girls and boys dealing wiht 'teen angst'
> > while also saving the world from vampires, is something i have real
> trouble
> > stomaching. everywhere i look in the media, it's the pretty people who are
> > important.... in music (avril lavigne aaarg), in tv.... really gets me.
>
> Funny you should mention Avril Lavigne in a Buffy thread. I always think
> she looks like Willow from Buffy.

No, Alyson Hannigan is actually attractive.

CindyLover

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Dec 21, 2002, 4:44:10 AM12/21/02
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"Deano":

> True but it is a kids programme.

Yes, and Dawn French is thin, Christina Aguilera's breasts are real,
Dom Robinson hates "The Simpsons," and the BBC is self-effacing.

Are you related to Jim Shelley or that Tina Baker woman in "TVTimes"
by any chance?

CindyLover

Deano

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Dec 21, 2002, 5:18:50 AM12/21/02
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I prefer Scooby Doo :)

The Machine

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Dec 21, 2002, 9:03:44 AM12/21/02
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Dom Robinson <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Funny you should mention Avril Lavigne in a Buffy thread. I always
think
> > she looks like Willow from Buffy.
>
> No, Alyson Hannigan is actually attractive.

That's her! I couldn't remember her name.

Captain Black

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Dec 21, 2002, 10:38:58 AM12/21/02
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"CindyLover" <Cindylo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Anybody who thinks Buffy is a kids programme just having been paying
attention. Yes, it is daft, but it can also get very dark. It's the one show
I happily watch twice a week. Wonderful writing.


Moley

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Dec 21, 2002, 11:30:26 AM12/21/02
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Captain Black wrote in news:au21ub$96i$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk:


> Anybody who thinks Buffy is a kids programme just having been paying
> attention. Yes, it is daft, but it can also get very dark. It's the
> one show I happily watch twice a week. Wonderful writing.
>
>
>

Also if it WERE purely a kids' programme there would be no necessity for
the BBC to do a late-night repeat every week in order to show the bits
they've had to cut out during the "kids' TV "slot at 6.45.


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Steeler

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Dec 21, 2002, 7:48:26 PM12/21/02
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"Mr. Teatime" <mr_tea...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> he's not alone. watching pretty girls and boys dealing wiht 'teen angst'
> while also saving the world from vampires, is something i have real
trouble
> stomaching. everywhere i look in the media, it's the pretty people who are
> important.... in music (avril lavigne aaarg), in tv.... really gets me.

cheer up Mr. Ugly.


Steeler

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Dec 21, 2002, 7:49:19 PM12/21/02
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"The Machine" <the-m...@TURRETS.surfanytime.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Mr. Teatime <mr_tea...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:au0ep1$gi9$1...@knossos.btinternet.com...
> > he's not alone. watching pretty girls and boys dealing wiht 'teen angst'
> > while also saving the world from vampires, is something i have real
> trouble
> > stomaching. everywhere i look in the media, it's the pretty people who
are
> > important.... in music (avril lavigne aaarg), in tv.... really gets me.
>
> Funny you should mention Avril Lavigne in a Buffy thread. I always think
> she looks like Willow from Buffy.
>
The only time she has ever looked like Willow was in the eps when willow is
a junkie trying to go cold turkey.


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