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Koos Nolst Trenite

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Nov 29, 2002, 10:20:17 PM11/29/02
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Dying And Still Hearing Bach

29 November 2002

An old man, on the back page of the daily newspaper NRC, somewhere
last year, on what he thought about dying, said:

"The main thing I really don't like, about dying,
is that I can't hear Bach anymore."

If he had read
'Nature of the Cosmos ...'*
and
'Mechanics of Awareness ...'**
then he would know that he can, and he would also know how to.

But only a sane person would want to know what happens when he dies.
And who would care how he perceives while he still lives...

Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher and poet


- 'The Nature Of The Cosmos As Seen From Earth (Version 1.0)
(29 August 2001)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0211060029.323b80d9%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

** 'Mechanics Of Awareness, Perception, Memory And Forgetfulness'
(13 September 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.02091...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain


References:

- 'Writing Technique and Basics of Music - Feeling versus
Intelligence' (1 July 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209121401.405de354%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Mozart Remedying Spiritual Violence - Fine Particle Physics
- Beauty and Awareness' (20 August 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c172dd8d.02082...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Past Lives and Rationality' (12 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209132219.71b5cf63%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'The Bach-Effect - Connecting Back To The Creation
- Recommendations' (24 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210241121.6ebde9b1%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'The Mafia Code Against Mankind' (18 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210180308.42416a71%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

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Texoki

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Nov 30, 2002, 3:50:15 AM11/30/02
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"Koos Nolst Trenite" <Ambassador...@hotmail.com> escribió en el
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> Dying And Still Hearing Bach
>
> 29 November 2002
>
> An old man, on the back page of the daily newspaper NRC, somewhere
> last year, on what he thought about dying, said:
>
> "The main thing I really don't like, about dying,
> is that I can't hear Bach anymore."

I personaly think that old J. S. Bach, still plays organ in heaven,
of course a much better one, with infinite keyboards
Tex.


Bachomania

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Nov 30, 2002, 6:47:54 PM11/30/02
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"Texoki" <qAuF...@pobladores.com> wrote in message news:<as9u4c$nm1gd$1...@ID-143605.news.dfncis.de>...

what do u think is his opinion about britney spears (since he can see
how music has evolved)? :)

Cliff Gieseke

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Nov 30, 2002, 9:29:40 PM11/30/02
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My wife Gloria, from Colombia, where she'd studied the violin before we met,
had 3 NDEs. In the first she had a kind of conversation with God and said:
"but beloved God, if I am dying, where is the music? She was then
immediately jerked back into her body, with all the struggle that entailed
in the ER. A few years later in the 2nd NDE she encountered a man dressed
in white who embrassed her and called her "friend." He told her that when
it was her time "there would be song and dance." For a while she thought
perhaps she had encountered J.S. Bach. Then she remembered that Jesus had
said: "and I have called you friends." ... Remembering that has had me
listening to a taped lecture from the the 1994 IANDS Conference on the
Quakers (the Society of Friends), "George Fox, the Inward Light, and Social
Justice" lately.

To see my wife's account of her NDEs, read: "Where Is The Music? - The
multiple Near-Death Experiences of a World Traveler," by Gloria M. Gieseke.
See: http://home.swbell.net/cliffgie/

-- Cliff Gieseke

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Texoki

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Dec 1, 2002, 5:28:31 AM12/1/02
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"Bachomania" <micke...@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
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Kids noice
Tex.


Koos Nolst Trenite

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Dec 1, 2002, 10:17:04 AM12/1/02
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Nice... brings tears to my eyes.

"Cliff Gieseke" <clif...@swbell.net> wrote in message news:<oueG9.836$yu.713...@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>...

Robert A. Fink, M. D.

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Dec 1, 2002, 6:10:03 PM12/1/02
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micke...@hotmail.com (Bachomania) wrote:

>what do u think is his opinion about britney spears (since he can see
>how music has evolved)? :)


I suspect that old Johann Sebastian, being an innovator in his time,
would have appreciated some of the modern music which we have around
these days. But Britney Spears....?

Best,

Bob


Robert A. Fink, M.D., FACS, P. C.
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"Ex Tristitia Virtus"

David Wright

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Dec 1, 2002, 7:09:01 PM12/1/02
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In article <bd5luuotb2cuunfp4...@4ax.com>,

Robert A. Fink, M. D. <raf...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>micke...@hotmail.com (Bachomania) wrote:
>
>>what do u think is his opinion about britney spears (since he can see
>>how music has evolved)? :)
>
>I suspect that old Johann Sebastian, being an innovator in his time,
>would have appreciated some of the modern music which we have around
>these days. But Britney Spears....?

Shucks, he can just turn off the sound and watch the video. That's
what I'd do, anyway. :-)

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders."

Andy Goldfinger

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Dec 3, 2002, 12:50:13 PM12/3/02
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In article <3b6f518d.02112...@posting.google.com> Koos Nolst

Trenite, Ambassador...@hotmail.com writes:
>An old man, on the back page of the daily newspaper NRC, somewhere
> last year, on what he thought about dying, said:
>
> "The main thing I really don't like, about dying,
> is that I can't hear Bach anymore."

Which reminds me of the man who was walking through a graveyard when he
came upon the tomb of Johan Sebastian Bach. Overcome with emotion, he
entered the mausoleum. After a short time, he was about to leave when he
noticed a flickering light coming from a crack in the stones on the
floor. Finding an old rusty iron ring attached to one, he pulled it to
find that the stone pivoted upward revealing a musty and cobweb encrusted
stairway leading downward. From the bottom of the stairway, came the
flickering light. Fearful, yet curious, he descended the stairs. At the
bottom he saw that the light came from a candle on an old table, at at
the table sat an extremely ancient looking man with two piles of paper in
front of him. One contained pages of manscript sheet music, while the
other contained blank paper. One by one, the old man took sheets of
music and erased then, putting the newly blank paper on the discard pile.

"Are you Johan Sebastian Bach," he asked?
"Yes" came the reply.
"What are your doing," he asked the old man?
"I'm decomposing"

James Calivar

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Dec 3, 2002, 7:00:27 PM12/3/02
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"Tien Yen" <tie...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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> Bach is interesting, of course, but would you people kindly omit
> alt.out-of-body from the headers, please?
>
> TIA

It's a joke, Killjoy. Ever hear of one of those?


Rich Andrews

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Dec 4, 2002, 5:24:34 AM12/4/02
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d0...@petitm0rte.net (jfred) wrote in
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>
> <snip>
>
> When I saw the subject line, I read, "Dying and Still Hearing Bush."
>
> <<<<shudder>>>>
>

I quite agree. After listening to a fair amount of "Classical Music", I
have determined a few things.

1) No composer has written stuff that was ALL good. There is some real
trash out there and it does not matter who wrote it.

2) Listening to one composer or even one genre of music is limiting ones
enjoyment of music. Good music can be found in every genre.

3) Quantity is not the same as quality.

4) RAP isn't music or a genre of music.

The concept of listening to one composer or one genre all the time would be
my idea of hell. Quiet is also good.

r

--
"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, de-briefed, or
numbered...My life is my own."

"I am not a number. I am a free man."
No. 6

Mark Probert

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Dec 4, 2002, 8:45:28 AM12/4/02
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"jfred" <d0...@petitm0rte.net> wrote in message
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>
> <snip>
>
> When I saw the subject line, I read, "Dying and Still Hearing Bush."
>
> <<<<shudder>>>>

Stephen King's job is already taken, but, if he has another car accident,
you have a lock on the job.

Mark Probert

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Dec 5, 2002, 4:17:52 PM12/5/02
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"jfred" <d0...@petitm0rte.net> wrote in message
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> :-D
>
> Perhaps to outdo him!... the truth is much stranger and spookier than
> fiction!

Especially when one of your books comes back to haunt you...

Janice

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Dec 6, 2002, 4:41:06 AM12/6/02
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In article <1fmn1od.o056491u4q5xfN%d0...@petitm0rte.net>,
d0...@petitm0rte.net says...

>
><snip>
>
>When I saw the subject line, I read, "Dying and Still Hearing Bush."
>
><<<<shudder>>>>

LOL

But you gotta admit he's had some classic lines, like the one that went
something like, "I have opinions too -- strong opinions -- but I don't
agree with all of them."

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