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Koos Nolst Trenite

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Nov 14, 2002, 12:19:33 PM11/14/02
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Restoring Genuine Beauty Is Restoring Aliveness - Mozart Effect

14 November 2002

To restore Aliveness,* it is vital to connect to and restore genuine
(not fake, and also not stolen,** but genuine) Beauty.

For this purpose, of restoring your Aliveness, I like to recommend to
you now:

Piano Concerto Nr. 18 in B flat (KV 456)
- 2nd part 'Andante un poco sostenuto'

The best performer generally, I know of so far, of all the Mozart
piano concertos, is the pianist Derek Han.
(Maybe closely followed by Ingrid Haebler and Annerose Schmidt
playing Mozart piano concertos.)

This is important, because there are famous pianists who 'just do not
get it' - who do not manage to establish the connection to the
Beauty of Mozart, which is the Beauty of The Creation.***

And many performers only manage to connect to it partly.


I suggest that you put the piece recommended, playing on your computer
or CD-player, on 'repeat-mode.' The music has been made so that you
can listen to it endlessly, actually. It could be played for days,
just that one part. What it does, is create an unpolluted area, as I
have described elsewhere.

As I have pointed out before, it is very beneficial to have it
playing ALSO while you are sleeping ...keeping away the Energies***
of those who cause the nightmares, keeping that away quite effective-
ly.

If you like, I can e-mail to you a fragment (of the part I mention
above) without violating the copyright. The extremely high quality
performances, on CD, by the way, cost almost nothing, even at retail
prices (that is about one Dollar, or one Euro, per CD-disk) from
Brilliant Classics.


Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher and poet


* I won't go into the Fine Particle Physics of it, here, but
basically, Beauty Life Energy Particles equate to Aliveness, they
produce, and hence also restore, Aliveness to you, the soul.

** Stolen Beauty Energy, is - quite obviously - connected to Ugli-
ness, to the Ugliness of the thief and the procedure of acquiring
it by deception or brute force, from the actual owner. Already
therefore, stolen Beauty Energy is not recommendable for restoring
Aliveness.

See also: 'Defining Love and Hate - A Law of Life (Definition)'
(29 July 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9ed8f96d.0208041252.218c3dc6%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain


*** 'The Nature Of The Cosmos As Seen From Earth (Version 1.0)
(29 August 2001)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0211060029.323b80d9%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

References: (in date order)

- 'Writing Technique and Basics of Music - Feeling versus
Intelligence' (1 July 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209121401.405de354%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Remembering Because Of Lindsay Lohan, And 'The Parent Trap''
(3 Aug 2002 - issued 24 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209241608.52b21330%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Mozart Remedying Spiritual Violence - Fine Particle Physics
- Beauty and Awareness' (20 August 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c172dd8d.02082...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'The Second Mozart-Effect - Connecting To Your Own Past'
(3 Sept 2002 - Version 1.1)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.02090...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Mozart - Remembering Heaven Or Civilization' (16 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c26a56d.0209160201.65828d6%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Happy Times Of Son And Father
- Johann Sebastian Bach As Wolfgang Mozart' (17 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.02091...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'True Leadership of Johann Sebastian Bach Through His Music'
(22 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209220319.55453ee0%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Mozart Effect To Move Health-Destroying Pollution Away
- Acoustic Wallpaper' (2 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210021546.55182f39%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Don't Ask What Mozart Can Do For You - But What You Can Do
For Mozart' (7 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210071221.2be1d122%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'The Mozart Effect Getting Someone Out Of Extreme Hate'
(16 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210160323.4be0454a%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'The Bach-Effect - Connecting Back To The Creation
- Recommendations' (24 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210241121.6ebde9b1%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

Copyright 2002 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it, and (or, if he can't learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to
others who might be able to learn from it.
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious agenda, but only to educate and encourage people
to judge un-dominated and for themselves about any organizations
or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
(address unreadable for internet robots
- replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)

Franneke

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Nov 14, 2002, 1:27:56 PM11/14/02
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Koos Nolst Trenite tikte:

> Restoring Genuine Beauty Is Restoring Aliveness - Mozart Effect

(cut)

> I suggest that you put the piece recommended, playing on your computer
> or CD-player, on 'repeat-mode.'

(cut)

Hm. The best way to kill Genuine Beauty is, in my view, to get over-exposed
to it.


Koos Nolst Trenite

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Nov 15, 2002, 2:46:27 AM11/15/02
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There are people who have the compulsion to "enjoy" Ugliness.

This is reasonably well comprehended
- (like better than by anyone before) - in:

- 'Handling Psychosis And Compulsions - A Definition Of Psychosis
- Definition Of Compulsion' (15 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209151128.190028c3%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain


Basically, it is a perversion brought about by means of Ugliness
wrapped around (attached to, glued to) Beauty.*

So also there, the basic intention of the soul (of anyone) to reach
for Beauty, is appealed to ...and is used, misused, perverted.

That is the "joy" or compulsion to want Ugliness, from a technical
viewpoint. It is still driven by the natural and basic intention to
reach for Beauty.
Here you are at the top level of truth, and how it is used to enforce
and to attach lies (which is Ugliness).*

This discovery - that has only recently been made by me and published
by me - is so all-encompassing, that it has the deepest understanding
of the mechanisms behind the ills that befall people or that they are
afflicted with.


Which is why it is so important to have Genuine Beauty - and it is why
Mozart and Bach, and Leonardo da Vinci, and Plato is (are) valued
above all.

'May sheep safely graze.'
(a famous Bach Cantata)

Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher and poet

(In response to a poster who can not stand Beauty for very long.)


* 'The Nature Of The Cosmos As Seen From Earth (Version 1.0)
(29 August 2001)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0211060029.323b80d9%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

Abelard2

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Nov 15, 2002, 2:48:21 AM11/15/02
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What a let-down. With that title, I was eagerly looking forward to a new Ken
Lane thread.

dogm...@dognation.com

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Nov 15, 2002, 3:42:49 AM11/15/02
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Ambassador...@hotmail.com (Koos Nolst Trenite) said
something like <3b6f518d.0211...@posting.google.com>:

>There are people who have the compulsion to "enjoy" Ugliness.

I suppose this post is proof enough of that.

> So also there, the basic intention of the soul (of anyone) to
> reach for Beauty, is appealed to ...and is used, misused,
> perverted.
>
> That is the "joy" or compulsion to want Ugliness, from a
> technical viewpoint. It is still driven by the natural and basic
> intention to reach for Beauty.
> Here you are at the top level of truth, and how it is used to
> enforce and to attach lies (which is Ugliness).*

As Yeats put it (or was it Keats. Or was it Shelley. Well, it was one
of those guys) - if beauty is truth, and truth is beauty, how much is
a ham sandwich?

>This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for

you to wrap fish in, line your birdcage, wipe your ass, and for


> anyone who learns from it, and (or, if he can't learn from it)

for those who, like me, didn't realize that you escaped my killfile,


> who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to

the Pope, or other high-ranking Catholic (or walruses) and to


> others who might be able to learn from it.
>None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political

party, except the Stark Raving Loonies, who will win someday,


> or religious agenda, but only to educate and encourage people

to baste themselves with butter and sing about lemmings, or


> to judge un-dominated and for themselves about any organizations

that like cheese - ps. why can't I get a date with either groups
> or individuals.?


>Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:

my cousin Larry, because he is really lonely, and not to:


> PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
> (address unreadable for internet robots
> - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)


Plato...@Lycos.com ?

Why would you want to hide that from the internet robots? They are
your friends! Your ONLY friends! Welcome them! Invite them into your
modest dwelling and proclaim "Lo, my cybernetic comrades, eat and
drink with me, for you are remarkably dull, and thus we have a great
deal in common! Pass the nachos!"

As Jesus said, "Enjoy the spam!"

Sincerely,
dogmaton

Dr.Matt

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Nov 15, 2002, 7:49:34 AM11/15/02
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In article <20021115024821...@mb-cf.aol.com>,

Abelard2 <abel...@aol.comspamless> wrote:
>What a let-down. With that title, I was eagerly looking forward to a new Ken
>Lane thread.

Yeah, I'd KBL vs KNT like big-time wrestling.


--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a trip to the bathroom."

Franneke

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Nov 15, 2002, 8:42:50 AM11/15/02
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Koos Nolst Trenite tikte:

> There are people who have the compulsion to "enjoy" Ugliness.

(cut)


> (In response to a poster who can not stand Beauty for very long.)

Beware of philosphers who cannot discern Mozart and muzak. Who do not
recognize a 4th dimension in the appreciation of beauty, especially when
created inside music.
If I were a philosopher or a poet - but I am not - I would give the exact
opposite advise as you do: stop listening to any music for a while: for a
week, for a month, for a year. And then listen to KV 456 - not just the
middle part but all of it - or anything else that you always liked.


John Harrington

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Nov 15, 2002, 11:46:49 AM11/15/02
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Are you the same guy who writes those Peppermint Soap labels?


J

in article 3b6f518d.02111...@posting.google.com, Koos Nolst
Trenite at Ambassador...@hotmail.com wrote on 11/14/02 9:19 AM:

John Harrington

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Nov 15, 2002, 11:47:00 AM11/15/02
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in article ar0pvb$dsn74$1...@ID-124923.news.dfncis.de, Franneke at
fran...@hotmail.com wrote on 11/14/02 10:27 AM:
<snip>

> Hm. The best way to kill Genuine Beauty is, in my view, to get over-exposed
> to it.

Impossible. The way you know beauty is NOT genuine is if it is killed by
repeated exposure.


J


Dr.Matt

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Nov 15, 2002, 11:59:34 AM11/15/02
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In article <B9FA605E.2606%bear...@earthlink.net>,

John Harrington <bear...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Are you the same guy who writes those Peppermint Soap labels?
>
>
>J


LOL! I haven't read one of those for about 5 years!

DON'T DRINK SOAP!
KEEP OUT OF EYE!
DILUTE!
DILUTE!
OK!

Ian Kemmish

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Nov 15, 2002, 2:36:29 PM11/15/02
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In article <ar0pvb$dsn74$1...@ID-124923.news.dfncis.de>, fran...@hotmail.com
says...

Or encouraging people to behave like passive couch potatoes, instead of going
out there and learning to perform the piece in a respectful and loving, but
best of all unique and individual, way themselves.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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We live in an era when the course of history is determined almost entirely
by people who aren't able to do the job in which they find themselves.

Peter T. Daniels

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Well, Frank Lloyd Wright knew that when there was a fabulous view, you
shouldn't stick a picture window in front of it -- you should only let
it be seen from the odd corner in an out-of-the-way spot, so that it
doesn't become routine and boring.
--
Peter T. Daniels gram...@att.net

Dr.Matt

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Nov 15, 2002, 8:22:03 PM11/15/02
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In article <3DD58A...@worldnet.att.net>,

Oh, THAT explains all the elaborate uses of glass in FLW designs! They're
to block the view that they put across so well that they have to have hawk
stickups on them lest birdies fly into 'em too much...

FLW doors are another matter...

Archer070

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Nov 15, 2002, 9:26:46 PM11/15/02
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> I won't go into the Fine Particle Physics of it, here, but
> basically, Beauty Life Energy Particles equate to Aliveness, they
> produce, and hence also restore, Aliveness to you, the soul.

Not to mention a fuller-bodied bounce to your hair.


Dr.Matt

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Nov 15, 2002, 10:19:23 PM11/15/02
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In article <20021115212646...@mb-de.aol.com>,

Oh, I missed the part where there's particle physics involved.
Everything in particle physics has non-obvious unexpected consequences
which we can test against the real world. Those notions that don't
pass the test get discarded. Alas, there's nothing in this assertion
which is testable against the real world. The reason why Koos won't
go into the particle physics of it is quite simply that there isn't
a shred of particle physics in anything he writes.

But he's now against rather than for Scientology, so there is yet hope
for him.

John Harrington

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Nov 16, 2002, 1:47:04 AM11/16/02
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in article 3DD58A...@worldnet.att.net, Peter T. Daniels at
gram...@worldnet.att.net wrote on 11/15/02 4:00 PM:

Frank Lloyd Wright was a chump.


J


Abelard2

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Nov 16, 2002, 7:31:34 AM11/16/02
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fie...@mspacman.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (Dr.Matt):

>In article <B9FA605E.2606%bear...@earthlink.net>,
>John Harrington <bear...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>Are you the same guy who writes those Peppermint Soap labels?
>>
>>
>>J
>
>
>LOL! I haven't read one of those for about 5 years!
>
>DON'T DRINK SOAP!
>KEEP OUT OF EYE!
>DILUTE!
>DILUTE!
>OK!

http://www.drbronner.com/story.html

Peter T. Daniels

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Nov 16, 2002, 8:16:38 AM11/16/02
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Dr.Matt wrote:

> >Well, Frank Lloyd Wright knew that when there was a fabulous view, you
> >shouldn't stick a picture window in front of it -- you should only let
> >it be seen from the odd corner in an out-of-the-way spot, so that it
> >doesn't become routine and boring.

> Oh, THAT explains all the elaborate uses of glass in FLW designs! They're


> to block the view that they put across so well that they have to have hawk
> stickups on them lest birdies fly into 'em too much...
>
> FLW doors are another matter...

What _are_ you talking about??

Marcello Penso

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Nov 16, 2002, 8:32:23 AM11/16/02
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In article <B9FB2558.2637%bear...@earthlink.net>,
bear...@earthlink.net says...
You don't find his architecture beautiful?

Marcello

Dr.Matt

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Nov 16, 2002, 8:23:18 AM11/16/02
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In article <20021116073134...@mb-ch.aol.com>,


One of these days somebody has to make a piece of music using bronners
soap texts recited full-speed-ahead....

Dr.Matt

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Nov 16, 2002, 8:32:01 AM11/16/02
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In article <3DD645...@worldnet.att.net>,

Peter T. Daniels <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

I work across the street from not one but two implementations of plans
FLW had for giant buildings, and the local landscape is dotted with lots
of 'em. Check 'em out.

Marcello Penso

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Nov 16, 2002, 9:19:51 AM11/16/02
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In article <lNrB9.899$ho1....@news.itd.umich.edu>,
fie...@millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu says...

> In article <3DD645...@worldnet.att.net>,
> Peter T. Daniels <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Dr.Matt wrote:
> >
> >> >Well, Frank Lloyd Wright knew that when there was a fabulous view, you
> >> >shouldn't stick a picture window in front of it -- you should only let
> >> >it be seen from the odd corner in an out-of-the-way spot, so that it
> >> >doesn't become routine and boring.
> >
> >> Oh, THAT explains all the elaborate uses of glass in FLW designs! They're
> >> to block the view that they put across so well that they have to have hawk
> >> stickups on them lest birdies fly into 'em too much...
> >>
> >> FLW doors are another matter...
> >
> >What _are_ you talking about??
>
> I work across the street from not one but two implementations of plans
> FLW had for giant buildings, and the local landscape is dotted with lots
> of 'em. Check 'em out.
>
>
If they're large buildings, they're from FLW's later period. You know the
names?

Marcello

Dr.Matt

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Nov 16, 2002, 9:51:19 AM11/16/02
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In article <MPG.18401d6ea...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,

I think one is called "Prairie House".

Peter T. Daniels

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Nov 16, 2002, 5:27:45 PM11/16/02
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Dr.Matt wrote:
>
> In article <MPG.18401d6ea...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
> Marcello Penso <m.p...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >In article <lNrB9.899$ho1....@news.itd.umich.edu>,
> >fie...@millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu says...
> >> In article <3DD645...@worldnet.att.net>,
> >> Peter T. Daniels <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> >Dr.Matt wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >Well, Frank Lloyd Wright knew that when there was a fabulous view, you
> >> >> >shouldn't stick a picture window in front of it -- you should only let
> >> >> >it be seen from the odd corner in an out-of-the-way spot, so that it
> >> >> >doesn't become routine and boring.
> >> >
> >> >> Oh, THAT explains all the elaborate uses of glass in FLW designs! They're
> >> >> to block the view that they put across so well that they have to have hawk
> >> >> stickups on them lest birdies fly into 'em too much...
> >> >>
> >> >> FLW doors are another matter...
> >> >
> >> >What _are_ you talking about??
> >>
> >> I work across the street from not one but two implementations of plans
> >> FLW had for giant buildings, and the local landscape is dotted with lots
> >> of 'em. Check 'em out.
> >>
> >>
> >If they're large buildings, they're from FLW's later period. You know the
> >names?
>
> I think one is called "Prairie House".

He built two or three hundred "prairie houses," and they were the
antithesis of "giant buildings."

Are you maybe near the Domino's Pizza guy's FLlW museum?

Regardless, I still have no idea what you're talking about with hawk
stickups and all. I am familiar with his various projects for tall
buildings, and the two that finally did get built (the Johnson Wax tower
in Racine and the Price Tower in Bartlesville), and they don't involve
any bigger expanses of glass than he ever used. He simply never used
anything like the "picture windows" that became standard in suburbia in
the 50s or so.

Owl (and hawk?) decals are used on large expanses of glass that might
look to a bird like an open space available for flying through.

Peter T. Daniels

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Nov 16, 2002, 5:28:35 PM11/16/02
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Marcello Penso wrote:
>
> In article <B9FB2558.2637%bear...@earthlink.net>,
> bear...@earthlink.net says...

> > Frank Lloyd Wright was a chump.


> >
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> >
> You don't find his architecture beautiful?

Poor John has been confined to San Diego for most of his life.

Dr.Matt

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Nov 16, 2002, 7:34:07 PM11/16/02
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I spent quite a while away from rec.music.classical, and when I drop in,
my kill file goes wild.

It seems certain topics keep recurring:
---The proper spiritual art of the heldentenor;
---Ambassadorship to the land of woo-woo;
---and the bandwidth-consuming, nonsense-filled winner topic of all time,
the fine art of tholing.

John Harrington

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Nov 17, 2002, 11:04:55 AM11/17/02
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in article 3uBB9.920$ho1....@news.itd.umich.edu, Dr.Matt at
fie...@millipede.gpcc.itd.umich.edu wrote on 11/16/02 4:34 PM:

> I spent quite a while away from rec.music.classical, and when I drop in,
> my kill file goes wild.
>
> It seems certain topics keep recurring:
> ---The proper spiritual art of the heldentenor;
> ---Ambassadorship to the land of woo-woo;
> ---and the bandwidth-consuming, nonsense-filled winner topic of all time,
> the fine art of tholing.
>

As a helpful guide, you should check out my periodic "people to plonk in
rmc" post, soon to be released in version 4.0.


J

John Harrington

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Nov 17, 2002, 11:05:16 AM11/17/02
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in article 3DD6C6...@worldnet.att.net, Peter T. Daniels at
gram...@worldnet.att.net wrote on 11/16/02 2:28 PM:

> Marcello Penso wrote:
>>
>> In article <B9FB2558.2637%bear...@earthlink.net>,
>> bear...@earthlink.net says...
>
>>> Frank Lloyd Wright was a chump.
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You don't find his architecture beautiful?
>
> Poor John has been confined to San Diego for most of his life.

They have a great architectural history in San Diego. Some of their condos
are over 20 years old!


J


Marcello Penso

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Nov 17, 2002, 6:24:35 PM11/17/02
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In article <B9FCF9B6.26BB%bear...@earthlink.net>,
bear...@earthlink.net says...
Sounds a lot like south Florida.

But, we do have Flagler museum- a nice wedding gift by Flagler to his
wife. It's a Gilded Age house by Carrere & Hastings, now a museum. And
there's Vizcaya and a few works by Mizner. There's even a Meier-like
beach house in Delray, not bad. But the rest........

Marcello

Marcello

John Harrington

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Nov 18, 2002, 12:18:20 AM11/18/02
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in article MPG.1841ee90d...@netnews.worldnet.att.net, Marcello
Penso at m.p...@worldnet.att.net wrote on 11/17/02 3:24 PM:

Other than the Hotel Del, San Diego's most famous architectural wonder is
the Central Library at UCSD, whose grandeur was considerably diminished by
the extension they put around it about a decade ago.


J


Peter T. Daniels

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Nov 18, 2002, 8:21:29 AM11/18/02
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Marcello Penso wrote:

> Sounds a lot like south Florida.
>
> But, we do have Flagler museum- a nice wedding gift by Flagler to his
> wife. It's a Gilded Age house by Carrere & Hastings, now a museum. And
> there's Vizcaya and a few works by Mizner. There's even a Meier-like
> beach house in Delray, not bad. But the rest........

If you don't appreciate the Moderne heritage of Morris Lapidus -- not to
mention the Deco heritage of all his unnamed predecessors farther south
-- then you don't deserve to live there. Look, and see!

Marcello Penso

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Nov 18, 2002, 4:56:45 PM11/18/02
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"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<3DD8E9...@worldnet.att.net>...

You're right, I forget about the art-deco stuff on the strip. Very
nice and charming, especially now that the area has been restored.
Still, the vast majority of architecture is just blase. I'm not too
keen on Lapidus's stuff either. Some of it is okay, but I wouldn't say
'great'- certainly not on the par with what can be seen in the
NorthEast.

Marcello

Peter T. Daniels

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Did I say "great"?? All I said was "appreciate"!

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