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Spider Robinson

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Nov 13, 2003, 6:52:55 AM11/13/03
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Brethren and sistren,

I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.

I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.

No, really.

I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.

I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
could I express it. Honoured … terrified … exhilarated … all those are
in there, and more.

Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
now with you.

Wish me luck.

--Spider

bookman

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Nov 13, 2003, 6:58:44 AM11/13/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.

<HACK>

> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Best of luck to ya, big brother. Remember what Lady Sally said
about enjoying as much as 5% of your work. Grok, cherish, grow.

Rusty the bookman


at work

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Nov 13, 2003, 7:08:10 AM11/13/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
> --Spider

I am slavering with anticipation.

--
Oscagne


William Hughes

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Nov 13, 2003, 7:51:55 AM11/13/03
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Hot damn! Yippee!! And various other expressions of joy.

You'll do fine, Spider. Waiting is.

Rusty Bill
alt.fan.heinlein

Stephanie

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Nov 13, 2003, 8:28:54 AM11/13/03
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>From: Spider Robinson

>I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.

>Wish me luck

I do not believe you need luck, good sir. What I wish you is ease of delivery
for such a creative child!

I am looking forward to this effort.


Stephanie
http://hometown.aol.com/merfilly27/myhomepage/profile.html

Bill Reich

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Nov 13, 2003, 9:06:54 AM11/13/03
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Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<3FB36C38...@shaw.ca>...
> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
> could I express it. Honoured ? terrified ? exhilarated ? all those are

> in there, and more.
>
> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Of COURSE, I wish you luck and I know that you will carry through this
project in a way that will do us all proud. It felt good just to see
that you were posting here. The content of the post is even more
delightful. Shared joy, indeed. It is also good to see that Ms. Wood
is still, agenting, I guess you would say.

--
Will in New Haven

Waiting Is

Mike Keith

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:29:58 AM11/13/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
><snip>
>Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Wow! My world just keeps getting better and better. Work fast 'cause I read
fast and I can't wait.

Mike


Mike Cothran

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:40:20 AM11/13/03
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Spider Robinson wrote:

> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.

We can only hope and work towards that goal.

> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.

Excellent!

> No, really.

Come on, you gotta be joking, you, -- tell a story, an untruth, nah...

> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
> could I express it. Honoured … terrified … exhilarated … all those are
> in there, and more.

Keep feeling, we'll keep reading.

> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.

Thank you for sharing.

> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Good Luck!

--
Mike C


Brian Maranta

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Nov 13, 2003, 12:38:49 PM11/13/03
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Spider Robinson wrote:

> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.

Wow... For about a month now, I have been absent from AFH, mostly due to
work and other demands on my time. Today, for some reason, I decided to
check the NG out... and look what I find... wow... double wow.

Mr. Robinson; best of luck in this endeavour.

Cheers!

--
Brian Maranta - Kingston, Ontario, Canada - br...@magsi.com
http://home.cogeco.ca/~bmaranta - AIM Screen Name: bjmaranta
Canadian Army Signals - Royal Military College of Canada, Class of 89
"You live and learn - or you don't live long." - R.A. Heinlein
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Ogden Johnson III

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Nov 13, 2003, 2:56:24 PM11/13/03
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Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
>we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
>I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
>No, really.
>
>I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
>novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
>billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
>book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
>agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.

If you have the Trust's and Eleanor Wood's confidence, I wouldn't
question their choice even if I were so inclined. Although I haven't
read as much of your work [or anyone else's SF work] in the past
decade or so as I would have liked, I have always enjoyed it. I have
every confidence that you will do justice to RAH's outline.

O frabjous joy! First "For Us the Living", now "Variable Star". A
lot of additional stuff on the Thanksgiving plate this year.
--
OJ III
[Email sent to Yahoo addy is burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast]

pixelmeow

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Nov 13, 2003, 3:04:07 PM11/13/03
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:52:55 GMT, in alt.fan.heinlein, Spider Robinson
<spid...@shaw.ca> scribbled:

I wish you ALL THE BEST of luck!!! I am very excited to see what you
write, and this on top of FUTA!!!

*does the happy dance*

--
~teresa~
AFH Barwench

^..^ "Never try to outstubborn a cat." Robert A. Heinlein ^..^
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Ed Reppert

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:02:04 PM11/13/03
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In article <3FB36C38...@shaw.ca>, Spider Robinson
<spid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Wish me luck.

Good luck, and fast writing. Not that I think you need luck - I can't
think of a writer better suited to this collaboration.

As others have said, waiting is.

Dont Be Fuelish-see-tian.greens.org

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:18:38 PM11/13/03
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Spider Robinson wrote:

>I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
>No, really.
>
>I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein
>Trust to write a novel based on a detailed outline created
>by Robert in 1955. It will be billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's
>VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The book
>proposal is even now being prepared for market by my
>(and Robert's) agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words
>are already written.
>
>I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means
>to me, nor could I express it. Honoured … terrified …
>exhilarated … all those are in there, and more.
>
>Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy
>*having written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the

>yfirst time in thirty ears, the writing itself has been a pure

>and holy joy. Which I share now with you.
>
>Wish me luck.

Good Luck!


Tian
--
Yesterday I went to a talk about the relationship between
Silicon Valley and the rest of the ecosystem. They talked about
what a great habitat for innovation this place is. Remembering
that gives me a "biodiversity is biotechnology" feeling.

Simon Jester US

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:34:52 PM11/13/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.


Allah be praised! Sex AND Humor!


Keith Soltys

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Nov 13, 2003, 7:23:04 PM11/13/03
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Wow. This is WONDERFUL news! I assume this is the novel form the outline that
was mentioned at the Torcon 3 panel. Something more to look forward to after
For Us the Living.

You won't need the luck, Spider. You'll do us all proud.

Best
Keith

------------------------------------------------------------------
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------------------------------------------------------------------
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest
of places if you look at it right - Grateful Dead/Scarlet Begonias

Charlie

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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3FB36C38...@shaw.ca...
> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
> could I express it. Honoured . terrified . exhilarated . all those are

> in there, and more.
>
> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

I just sprayed Pepsi all over the keyboard of my new computer!
If the future of SF gets any brighter, I'll have to wear shades.
Can't think of a better writer for the job than you, Spider. Definitely one
of Heinlein's Children.
Gotta check the posts at callahan's now.
Can't wait to read this one!

Charlie


djinn

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:32:16 AM11/14/03
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Great news! Good luck with it.

--
cat and mouse with CT


Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<3FB36C38...@shaw.ca>...

> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor

> could I express it. Honoured ? terrified ? exhilarated ? all those are

Engr Bohn

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Nov 14, 2003, 8:13:36 AM11/14/03
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Good morning,

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Spider Robinson wrote:

[...]


> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.

Happy, happy, joy joy!

> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.

[...]

While, in general, I get nervous when I see a book titled "So-and-so's
Title, by Someone-else" (or a movie titled "So-and-so's Title"), I'm
pushing aside my reservations here. I know *you* will do an excellent
job. It's entirely fitting and pleasing that you are "collaborating" with
RAH.

Please take as much time as you need. But if you want a proofreader to
look over the drafts... <g>


> Wish me luck.

Good luck! and take care,
cb

--
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http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~bohn/ ' ** ** " (o) " ** ** '
"Airmen ... have demonstrated that dominance in air, space, and
cyberspace yields decisive combat results."
- Gen John Jumper, July 2003

Kullervo Nurmi

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Nov 14, 2003, 1:58:37 PM11/14/03
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Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote:

[snippity-snip]

>
>Wish me luck.

Yay! Luck, Spider!

Kultsi

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Armando_Billingham

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:18:57 PM11/14/03
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Spider Robinson sneezed all over his keyboard and wrote:
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.

I've read two of your books. I've read all of Heinlein's. You, sir,
are no Robert Heinlein. Actually, you're crap. At least I didn't pay
any money to read your books.

Jackie

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Nov 14, 2003, 3:54:23 PM11/14/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3FB36C38...@shaw.ca...
> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
> could I express it. Honoured . terrified . exhilarated . all those are

> in there, and more.
>
> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Wow! Good luck, and I'm sure it's going to be great!

~*~Jackie~*~


TreetopAngel

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:40:40 PM11/14/03
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"Spider Robinson" wrote:
> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If
so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will
be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson."
The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and
Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
> could I express it. Honoured . terrified . exhilarated . all those

are
> in there, and more.
>
> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in
thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Good Luck! This is the best news ever, well almost, er... just as good
as hearing about FUTL.

******CRASH******

E!


Dr. Rufo

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Nov 14, 2003, 9:18:32 PM11/14/03
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Mr. Robinson, I join the other habitués of AFH in congratulating you on
having received the Heinlein Trust's approval for this effort. I
appreciate your "sharing of joy" with us here and I would like to remind
you of, I think, an apt quotation from RAH:
"There is no such thing as luck; there is only adequate or inadequate
preparation to cope with a statistical universe."
Your track record shows that you've made the preparation. Proceed
boldly and we shall all relish the results.

"L'audace! Toujours l'audace!"
My most sincere regards,
Dr. Rufo

Mike Dworetsky

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Nov 15, 2003, 6:47:19 AM11/15/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3FB36C38...@shaw.ca...

> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor

> could I express it. Honoured . terrified . exhilarated . all those are


> in there, and more.
>
> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> --Spider

Fantastic news, best wishes for a fruitful collaboration!

Would it be giving too much away to say if it was meant as a juvie or an
adult novel?

--
Mike Dworetsky

(Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail)


charles krin

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Nov 15, 2003, 7:12:20 AM11/15/03
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:52:55 GMT, Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>Brethren and sistren,

>
>I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
>we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
>I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
>No, really.

DAMN!

TWO new Heinleins in the space of a year!!!!!

I hope that you let the folks at AC know as well...if not, they will
be miffed!

Vaya Con, Brudda...

ck
--
The Ten Commandments display was removed from the Alabama Supreme Court
building, But here was a good reason for the move. 

You can't post "Thou Shalt Not Steal" in a building full of lawyers and
politicians without creating a hostile work environment.

Edna H. on alt.books.m-lackey, 20030930

Spider Robinson

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Nov 15, 2003, 8:56:45 AM11/15/03
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Dear Armando,

yes, my experience too has been that I'm just not very popular with
thieves. I'm devastated to learn you won't be robbing me any further in
future.

Do let me know if you ever produce anything, so I can steal if from YOU,
won't you?

--Spider

Nohbody

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Nov 15, 2003, 9:02:00 AM11/15/03
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[NG line trimmed]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:12:20 -0600, charles krin <ck...@bayou.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:52:55 GMT, Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> >I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
> >
> >No, really.
>

> I hope that you let the folks at AC know as well...if not, they will
> be miffed!

Yep, posted in a separate message, for some AC content that he
apparently thought wouldn't go over too well here.

(alt.callahans is treated more as a virtual bar than a newsgroup, by
its participants. Given some here have complained about treating AFH
as a virtual place, I can't say I blame him for his decision.)

--
Dan Poore
ICQ UIN: 3908950 <http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3908950>
A Meeting of Minds <http://nohbody.com/schtuff/meeting.html> - a
(mostly) cliche-free first contact story (updated periodically)

Nohbody

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Nov 15, 2003, 10:19:45 AM11/15/03
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:56:45 GMT, Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

> Dear Armando,


>
> yes, my experience too has been that I'm just not very popular with
> thieves. I'm devastated to learn you won't be robbing me any further in
> future.

To be fair, it is possible to read a book without having paid for it,
and not having stolen it. Borrowing from a library or a friend's book
collection are two non-pay sources that come to mind, offhand.

(I have no idea about whether this describes Armando's situation, not
being an ABSFRH [or however you shorten it :P ] regular. It is a
possibility, though.)

OTOH, though, I don't know of all that many people who take "this is
utter crap" (paraphrase) without qualifications as anything other than
completely ignorable frothing. YMMV*, of course.

--
Dan Poore
ICQ UIN: 3908950 <http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3908950>
A Meeting of Minds <http://nohbody.com/schtuff/meeting.html> - a
(mostly) cliche-free first contact story (updated periodically)

* Or, for the metric users, YKMV.

Simon Jester US

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Nov 15, 2003, 11:33:49 AM11/15/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3FB6307F...@shaw.ca...

> Dear Armando,
>
> yes, my experience too has been that I'm just not very popular with
> thieves. I'm devastated to learn you won't be robbing me any further in
> future.
>
> Do let me know if you ever produce anything, so I can steal if from YOU,
> won't you?
>
> --Spider

Oh, come on! The one prat in land, who likes to mastubate his mouth, and
you have to give him credit by watching his filth and then RESPONDING to it?
C'mon Spider! You should know better than that!

Engr Bohn

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Nov 15, 2003, 5:22:08 PM11/15/03
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Good afternoon,

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Nohbody wrote:

[...]
> YMMV*, of course.
[...]


> * Or, for the metric users, YKMV.


Or for those who, in the late 1990s, were worried about disasters on 1
January 2000 that never materialized, Y2KMV.


Take care,
cb

--
Christopher A. Bohn ____________|____________
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~bohn/ ' ** ** " (o) " ** ** '

"It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out where
the strong man stumbled, or where a doer of deeds could have done
them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena whose face
is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who
errs, and who comes up short again and again, who knows the great
enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy
cause." - Theodore Roosevelt


charles krin

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Nov 16, 2003, 8:36:48 AM11/16/03
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and you, Cur, aren't worth the sand to pound in your hole...If
*anyone* in the current SFWA is able to handle the job, it's
Spider....(esp if Jeanne helps).

TreetopAngel

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Nov 16, 2003, 10:13:28 AM11/16/03
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"charles krin" writes:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:18:57 GMT, Armando_Billingham
> <nos...@nospammm.com> wrote:
>
> >Spider Robinson sneezed all over his keyboard and wrote:
> >> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to
write a
> >> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It
will be
> >> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson."
The
> >> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and
Robert's)
> >> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
> >
> >I've read two of your books. I've read all of Heinlein's. You, sir,
> >are no Robert Heinlein. Actually, you're crap. At least I didn't
pay
> >any money to read your books.
>
> and you, Cur, aren't worth the sand to pound in your hole...If
> *anyone* in the current SFWA is able to handle the job, it's
> Spider....(esp if Jeanne helps).
>
> ck

I dunno, Chuck...that's a lot of sand...

E!


Charlie

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Nov 16, 2003, 12:04:08 PM11/16/03
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"Armando_Billingham" <nos...@nospammm.com> wrote in message
news:3FB52A...@nospammm.com...

Pray enlighten me, dear Armando, as to how you are able to see your keyboard
to write such tripe with your head that far up your ass.
It boggles the mind, truly.

Chooch


charles krin

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Nov 16, 2003, 1:23:04 PM11/16/03
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:02:00 -0500, Nohbody <lo...@my.reply-to.address>
wrote:

>[NG line trimmed]
>
>On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:12:20 -0600, charles krin <ck...@bayou.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:52:55 GMT, Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>> >
>> >No, really.
>>
>> I hope that you let the folks at AC know as well...if not, they will
>> be miffed!
>
>Yep, posted in a separate message, for some AC content that he
>apparently thought wouldn't go over too well here.
>
>(alt.callahans is treated more as a virtual bar than a newsgroup, by
>its participants. Given some here have complained about treating AFH
>as a virtual place, I can't say I blame him for his decision.)

OK...I used to lurk there on occasion, but the traffic there (and in
alt.fan.pratchett) is so high as to be almost impossible to follow if
you have any other interests...

charles krin

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Nov 16, 2003, 4:46:04 PM11/16/03
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:13:28 -0700, "TreetopAngel"
<treeto...@micro-mania.net> wrote:

>
>"charles krin" writes:
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:18:57 GMT, Armando_Billingham
>> <nos...@nospammm.com> wrote:
>>

snip

>> >I've read two of your books. I've read all of Heinlein's. You, sir,
>> >are no Robert Heinlein. Actually, you're crap. At least I didn't
>pay
>> >any money to read your books.
>>
>> and you, Cur, aren't worth the sand to pound in your hole...If
>> *anyone* in the current SFWA is able to handle the job, it's
>> Spider....(esp if Jeanne helps).
>>
>> ck
>
>I dunno, Chuck...that's a lot of sand...
>
>E!
>

eh, it's cheap...

Kate Gladstone

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Nov 17, 2003, 11:28:58 AM11/17/03
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Spider - you have my VERY best wishes!

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Kate Gladstone

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Nov 17, 2003, 11:34:28 AM11/17/03
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Mr. Armando Billingham <nos...@nospammm.com> evaluates Spider Robinson as "crap" ...

Well, then, Mr. Billingham ... since you presumably excel Spider as an
author (why else would you call him or his works "crap"?), perhaps you
should try your own luck at getting into print and/or at getting the
Heinlein Society to give you permission to finish unfinished RAH works
...

;-S

I'd take some interest in seeing how your work stacks up against
Spider's (or RAH's) literarily and in terms of sales.

Bill Reich

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Nov 17, 2003, 12:27:14 PM11/17/03
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Hello Spider,

While I found his post ungracious at best, I have to admit that I
assumed that he had simply read a couple of your books after checking
them out of the library or simply sat and read them IN the library.
While I have bought most of your books, I have also checked some of
them out of the library, borrowed the collection _Antimony_ from a
friend as it was OP and even read most of the first Callahan's in Book
World. I would have bought it but we had sold out of it before my next
shift. Is that stealing? While I strongly disagree with his literary
taste, I don't know that he's a thief.

--
Will in New Haven

Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<3FB6307F...@shaw.ca>...

lal_truckee

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Nov 17, 2003, 1:47:24 PM11/17/03
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Spider Robinson wrote:

> Dear Armando,
>
> yes, my experience too has been that I'm just not very popular with
> thieves. I'm devastated to learn you won't be robbing me any further in
> future.
>
> Do let me know if you ever produce anything, so I can steal if from YOU,
> won't you?
>
> --Spider

I think Armando was just looking for an opening for his Lloyd Bentson
misquote.

You, however, over-reacted. Actually, when dealing with trolls as in
this case, any reaction is an over-reaction. (FWIW, my daughter likes
your books; however she reads copies I purchased, so technically she's
in the same boat.)

Wesley Marquart

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Nov 18, 2003, 10:46:58 PM11/18/03
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"Spider Robinson" <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>

<snip>

> Wish me luck.

Without a Doubt, Sir!
.... tho in your case I doubt Luck is needed...

I can hardly wait for the publication...

:)

- Wes Marquart (aka Willam the Tinker)


Mark Ensley

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Nov 19, 2003, 6:25:00 PM11/19/03
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Spider Robinson <spid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<3FB36C38...@shaw.ca>...
> Brethren and sistren,
>
> I've been saying for thirty years now that shared joy increases. If so,
> we're all gonna be neck-deep in the stuff in a second.
>
> I am collaborating on a novel with Robert A. Heinlein.
>
> No, really.
>
> I have just been given final approval by the Heinlein Trust to write a
> novel based on a detailed outline created by Robert in 1955. It will be
> billed as "Robert A. Heinlein's VARIABLE STAR, by Spider Robinson." The
> book proposal is even now being prepared for market by my (and Robert's)
> agent Eleanor Wood. The first 10,000 words are already written.
>
> I don't suppose any of you need to be told what this means to me, nor
> could I express it. Honoured ? terrified ? exhilarated ? all those are

> in there, and more.
>
> Some writers enjoy writing. I'm the other kind: I enjoy *having
> written*. But these last few weeks, for almost the first time in thirty
> years, the writing itself has been a pure and holy joy. Which I share
> now with you.
>
> Wish me luck.

Luck!!!

Thank you for posting this, Spider!

You are on my *very* short list of authors to buy sight-unseen in
hardback so I'm excited to see the result. *stops typing, grins at the
wall for a while*

Are you contractually able to drop us any crumbs about topics /
characters / age bracket, etc?

Actually, if anyone had bothered to ask me, my top two choices for
this project would have been you and / or David Gerrold. Then again,
this would have given David yet another reason not to finish the
Chtorran books, so perhaps it's just as well on one asked for my $0.02
<g>

Thanks again, and please post updates as you are able,

-Mark Ensley

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