JMS Scheduled for 2003 Comic-Con International
Dan Dassow
Scheduled guests include a number of current and classic comic book
writers and illustrators and a few names even those less familiar with
comics may recognize:
* "The Simpsons" creator Matt Groening
* Iconoclastic director Kevin Smith
("Clerks," "Dogma," "Jay and Silent Bob
Strike Back")
* "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" creator Joss
Whedon.
* Former "Buffy" star Eliza Dushku,
promoting a new series of her own.
* "Kill Bill" cast members David Carradine,
Daryl Hannah, Michael Madsen and Michael
Jai White.
* Andy Serkis, the actor who gives life to
"Lord of the Rings" scene-stealer Gollum.
* Edward James Olmos, promoting his upcoming
role as Commander Adama in the Sci-Fi Channel
miniseries "Battlestar Galactica."
* "Farscape" cast members Ben Browder, Lani
John Tupu, Virginia Hey, Wayne Pygram,
Jonathan Hardy, Francesca Buller and David
Franklin.
* Horror, science fiction and fantasy collector
extraordinaire Forrest J. Ackerman
* Will Eisner, known as the father of the
graphic novel
* Neil Gaiman, author of "American Gods"
* Comics visionary Alex Ross, known for
his photo-realistic style
* Steve Jackson, founder of Steve Jackson Games
* J. Michael Straczynski, creator of the Bablyon 5
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and Jeremiah television series
* Science fiction and fantasy authors
R.A. Salvatore and Gregory Keyes
* Oscar winning actresses Halle Berry and
Angelina Jolie appear at Comic-Con International
to promote upcoming thrillers.
* Hugh Jackman "Wolverine" and actress Kate
Beckinsale ("Pearl Harbor") also will sign autographs
Jms at B5
>
Just a head's up for anyone who might be coming by...I'm ONLY going to be doing
panels/talks on Saturday and Sunday, and my ONLY autograph session, at which
the last of the Sleeping in Light scripts with deleted material and suchlike
will be availabale, is Saturday at 3:30.
Because 2003 was our 10th anniversary, this will be the last time that the SiL
scripts will be available at conventions.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
(all message content (c) 2003 by synthetic worlds, ltd.,
permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine
and don't send me story ideas)
John C. Anderson
SiL
scripts will be available at conventions.
jms >>
For those of us who can't make it (grrr!), is there any other legal way to
purchase the SiL script?
"It is strange that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a
thing. Such a little thing."
Boromir
Mac Breck
news:20030716104837...@mb-m03.aol.com...
> << Because 2003 was our 10th anniversary, this will be the last time that
the
> SiL
> scripts will be available at conventions.
>
> jms >>
>
>
> For those of us who can't make it (grrr!), is there any other legal way to
> purchase the SiL script?
Ooh boy, can I empathize! Darn good question!
--
Mac Breck
http://www.scifi.com/babylon5/
http://www.scifi.com/crusade/
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/1521 (Brimstone)
Jms at B5
Bros. will be there with a film crew to interview fans and tape material for
the season 5 DVD, which at my request will have a whole section on the fans,
since that has always been an important part of the show.
So if you're at the con, you may want to be sure to come by to get into a
little slice of B5 history.
Christian Janiesch
wrote:
> For those who will be at my talk on Saturday, or know someone who will, Warner
> Bros. will be there with a film crew to interview fans and tape material for
> the season 5 DVD, which at my request will have a whole section on the fans,
> since that has always been an important part of the show.
Season 5 already? Sounds promising. :-)
Is there any information on the extras of season 4 that you can give us?
Any news on the other movies or Crusade going DVD?
Christian
--
"The quiet ones are the ones who change the universe.
The loud ones only take the credit."
L.M. ItB
Andrew Swallow
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> For those who will be at my talk on Saturday, or know someone who will,
Warner
> Bros. will be there with a film crew to interview fans and tape material
for
> the season 5 DVD, which at my request will have a whole section on the
fans,
> since that has always been an important part of the show.
>
> So if you're at the con, you may want to be sure to come by to get into a
> little slice of B5 history.
>
Please try to avoid playing the idiot when being filmed. Watching
this film is as close to the fans as most suits will get. They may
aim future programs at the people they see.
One big difference between the fans and studio employees.
Babylon 5 is the studio employees' job but the fans' hobby.
Andrew Swallow
Kurt Ullman
>For those who will be at my talk on Saturday, or know someone who will, Warner
>Bros. will be there with a film crew to interview fans and tape material for
>the season 5 DVD, which at my request will have a whole section on the fans,
>since that has always been an important part of the show.
>
>So if you're at the con, you may want to be sure to come by to get into a
>little slice of B5 history.
>
You gonna bid on the GI prototype action figure that is supposed to be up
for auction there?
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"Politics should be limited in its scope to war,
protection of property, and the occasional
precautionary beheading of a member of the ruling class."
-P.J. O'Rourke
Jan
JMS could you write up a report of what was shown, told and filmed?
Thanks!
Jan
Check out my auctions of rare Dark Shadows and Babylon 5 scripts and
memorabilia at http://tinyurl.com/bhkk
Scott
>For those of you who are lucky enough to have gone to ComicCon today and seen
>JMS, could you write up a report of what was shown, told and filmed?
>
>Thanks!
>Jan
>
OK Jan, just for you,
I hope I got all the facts and quotes at least close to what was really
said.
This first panel was about Jeremiah.
I don't know if Joe arrived early and cruised the floor before his panel
but at the appointed time of 1:30 he showed up for his first panel.
Entering the ring with him was Sara (Samm) Barnes. She has penned a
few scripts for the first season and a few for the second. I believe
Joe said she is now an Executive Procurer. The was her first ever panel
and only the second con she has attended, so she was a little nervous
(but she hid it well) and Joe went easy on her, at first.
They both spoke about the upcoming season and Miss. Barnes blurted out a
little spoiler, Joe was a little surprised by this faux pas but told her
since the cat was out of the bag to just continue with the story. (No
I'm not going to give you the spoiler) But is evolves the down fall of
Valhalla Sector and is once again the type of unexpected twist that Joe
is good at.
No answer on a third season of Jeremiah yet but Joe said he found out
when it the second season starts by searching the net, not by any
corporate channels. And that the first season DVD of Jeremiah will be
out in October. A fan corrected him and said it will be January. He
wasn't involved in any commentary or anything else for this DVD.
They both talked about the new Mr. Smith character played by Sean Astin,
and Joe described him as a sock puppet with the Hand of God stuck up his
a$$.
(As an aside note, I just did a spell check and my computer thinks I
misspelled Astin. It offered a few correct spellings, one of which is
Satan). Why is it whenever I read that word I hear it as if the Church
Lady is saying it? Is this one of Joe's foreshadowing's?
When Joe asked Samm the name of the episodes she wrote, she drew a
blank, so Joe (being the nice guy he is) took full advantage of this and
played it for a few laughs. She finally remembered one name but the
other Joe had to give her a hint.
Samm was a good sport about it all and did very well up there for her
first time. (She's also easy on the eyes ). ;-)
Fiona Avery was there, in the back of the room, and Joe and her
exchanged some dialog about his "going New Jersey" on certain industry
execs. He explained that term as a way to get back at the suits by
sitting around the set not doing anything constructive and thus wasting
money (or something like that).
Joe made a few announcements about this being the last time he was going
to be selling the "Sleeping in Light" Script, and that a film crew from
Warner Brothers was here to film the fans and do interviews with them.
They were filming the crowd and taping the Q&A session. Then after the
panels they would be doing the interviews with the fans. This being
filmed for inclusion in the fifth season B5 DVD's.
I can't remember any of the specific questions from this first panel but
some guy was there asking questions and taking notes so maybe he will
have an online report soon.
I wish I could remember more but that's about it for the first panel.
Joe thanked everyone for coming and took about a 10 minute break
For the second panel Joe was alone and talked about his comics and did a
lot of Q&A's.
He also had in hand two hand drawn, proof issues of his new Supreme
Powers comics and said he would give them out to the two best questions
from this panel (no I don't remember these questions either) and the
envelope the comics came in would be given to the stupidest question. I
remember this question as I was the one that asked the most stupid
question. My question had to do with proof reading his wife's work when
she was writing the "To Dream" novel. Although the guy who asked the
question after me was even worse so I surrendered my prize to him. His
questions was something like "Out of all the characters you've written,
which one would you most like to have sex with (or which one do you
identify sexually most with)? or some thing like that. I was too busy
feeling embarrassed about winning the envelope to pay must attention to
the actual wording but when the crowd broke out laughing I knew that my
question had been beat.
Someone else asked about Buddy so Joe gave a quick recap for the fans
and finished with 'He is doing great...eating a lot...and still hasn't
decided if I will keep him or not.'
Another question was about the delay with the last issues of Rising
Stars, Joe answering with 'as soon as Top Cow stops screwing around I'll
finish them', and went on to explain that.
Joe said Polaris is still being shopped around and hinted about a new
project but wouldn't give details as nothing is signed yet.
He was asked about telling stories about Harlan but couldn't as there
aren't any he wouldn't get in trouble for.
Back to Supreme Powers, Joe let two guys read the comic during his panel
and both made a comment about the dog, and it didn't sound good for the
dog. No cat's we harmed during the penning of this novel but I can't
say the same for dogs. Joe reiterated that he is a cat person, not a
dog person.
There were some B5 questions and this is what I remember about them.
Joe talked about the G'Kar/Londo elevator scene where G'Kar is laughing
about dying beside Londo. The scene was written to be serious yet when
it came time to film Joe was in his office and kept hearing this
laughter from down the hall. He went to investigate and Andreas had
improvised that it would be better if G'Kar thought it was ironically
funny that he would be able to kill Londo by not doing anything to help
him escape.
Someone asked about his ability to write such true words about religion
yet be an Atheist so Joe shared his thoughts about the inherent,
potential nobility of mankind (I hope I got that right). Joe got a
little serious at this question and you could tell he was choosing his
words _very carefully_ as he didn't want to come across as
'anti-religion' or offend anyone's beliefs. And I must say he did it
very eloquently.
He talked about how his characters are so thought out before he starts
writing that they talk to him and tell him what to write. As an
example, it was Vir that told him it would be better if he killed
Cartagia, if Londo did it it would be business as usual, but if he did
it, it would be a bigger surprise and Joe would be able to milk it for a
few more episodes.
I know there was more but that's all you're going to get out of me.
Once again Joe thanked everyone for coming and was off to do autographs.
When I got to the autograph line it was already overflowing the area
that had been set aside. The con staff had not expected the crowd Joe
drew so some last minute line improvising was done. Now, Joe did not
draw as big a crown as Angelina Jolie , (as expected, it's a hair thing)
but it was a healthy crowd that wanted his sig.
I do believe that this was all Joe was scheduled for on Saturday, so
I'll conclude this by saying once again Joe did an excellent job of
entertaining the fans, answering questions as thoroughly as possible and
giving those that attended some further insight into his worlds and
treating us to the much anticipated spoilers for upcoming shows,
potential projects, other possible business directions, his feeling
about suits and once more showing us how petty, self centered, insecure
and selfish he truly is (just kidding on this last part, I wanted to see
if you were still listening).
Thank Joe,
Scott
Jan
>OK Jan, just for you,
Thanks, Scott! I doubt I'd remember any more of the questions than you did!
Re: Samm Barnes:
> The was her first ever panel
>and only the second con she has attended, so she was a little nervous
>(but she hid it well) and Joe went easy on her, at first.
Mmmm...JMS had her stand up at V-Con last October so maybe that was her first.
> And that the first season DVD of Jeremiah will be
>out in October. A fan corrected him and said it will be January. He
>wasn't involved in any commentary or anything else for this DVD.
That's too bad. I'd love to have heard what he had to say in a commentary on
'And the Ground, Sown with Salt'.
>(just kidding on this last part, I wanted to see
>if you were still listening).
I was! <g>
Thanks again!
Jms at B5
>Sara (Samm) Barnes...has penned a
>few scripts for the first season and a few for the second. I believe
>Joe said she is now an Executive Procurer.
Negative. She is/was a co-producer on the show.
> Joe did not
>draw as big a crown as Angelina Jolie , (as expected, it's a hair thing)
Yeah, maybe, sure, but I look much more fetching in chiffon any day.
C W CHAN
>> Joe did not
>>draw as big a crown as Angelina Jolie , (as expected, it's a hair thing)
>Yeah, maybe, sure, but I look much more fetching in chiffon any day.
> jms
Is that one of the specials on season 5 dvds? :)
Chuen Chan c.c...@uq.NOSPAM.net.au
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'You can prove anything you want by coldly logical reason - if you pick
the proper postulates... Postulates are based on assumption and adhered
to by faith. Nothing in the Universe can shake them.'
Gregory Powell in Robots series by I. Asimov
Jan
>Yeah, maybe, sure, but I look much more fetching in chiffon any day.
I'll bet in purple you're just stunning!
Wesley Struebing
wrote:
>Just one correction:
>
>>Sara (Samm) Barnes...has penned a
>>few scripts for the first season and a few for the second. I believe
>>Joe said she is now an Executive Procurer.
>
>Negative. She is/was a co-producer on the show.
>
>> Joe did not
>>draw as big a crown as Angelina Jolie , (as expected, it's a hair thing)
>
>Yeah, maybe, sure, but I look much more fetching in chiffon any day.
>
> jms
>
....and she has bigger, err, guns (yeah; that's it) than you...
--
Carpe Dementem! (grab the wacko)
Wes Struebing
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
str...@carpedementem.org
home page: www.carpedementem.org
Jan
>....and she has bigger, err, guns (yeah; that's it) than you...
Tsk, tsk....Wes, Wes, Wes....Surely you know that it's not the size it's what
you do with it/them that matters....? Hmm?
Dave Thomer
Michael Bendis and Joe Quesada, that focused primarily on his Marvel work.
(Amazing Spider-Man and Supreme Power.) There was some discussion of the
World Trade Center issue of ASM, and general stuff about Spidey and the
other characters in the book. Unfortunately, this panel got a little
sidetracked by folks asking Joe Quesada general questions about Marvel, but
hey, what can ya do?
The spotlight panel was probably the most thorough of the three, with a lot
of discussion of B5. JMS was very complimentary to the fan base in gernal
and played off the folks in the room well. One question (which MAY have
been one of the best-question winners, but which may not have) was about
whether or not there are elements of symbolism that JMS puts in his scripts
that people have missed, and he replied that to the contrary, fans often
find things he didn't realize he was putting in there, because they're just
that darned smart.
No prospects of Crusade being finished, but there are still plans for the B5
graphic novel and there is something in the works that has at least gotten a
'maybe' from Warner Brothers.
That's all I recall right now, but after I get some sleep I might remember
more.
--
Dave Thomer
This Is Not News - www.notnews.org
Philosophy, public affairs and pop culture
"Scott" <orc...@charter.net> wrote in message
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jehanne
"Dave Thomer" wrote:
> No prospects of Crusade being finished, but there are still plans for the
B5
> graphic novel and there is something in the works that has at least gotten
a
> 'maybe' from Warner Brothers.
Just for clarificaiton... was this "something" a B5-related "something," or
a different sort of something? If something was, then something would be
very cool. And even if the something wasn't -that- something, coming from
JMS, something would likely be something we'd all be interested in, anyway.
Something to think about...
jehanne ("I'm not even thinking what I'm thinking")
Jan
<<
That's all I recall right now, but after I get some sleep I might remember
more.>>
Thanks!
Monica Hübinette
> OK Jan, just for you,
And the rest of us anxious to hear what went on at Comic-Con. ;)
> I hope I got all the facts and quotes at least close to what was really
> said.
Here is an article with all the questions asked at the panel along
with JMS' answers. Let us know if they left off anything. :)
http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=001223
> They both spoke about the upcoming season and Miss. Barnes blurted out a
> little spoiler, Joe was a little surprised by this faux pas but told her
> since the cat was out of the bag to just continue with the story. (No
> I'm not going to give you the spoiler) But is evolves the down fall of
> Valhalla Sector and is once again the type of unexpected twist that Joe
> is good at.
Oh come on, tell us! Or just tell me. ;)
*offers her ear so Scott can whisper it to her* :D
> No answer on a third season of Jeremiah yet but Joe said he found out
> when it the second season starts by searching the net, not by any
> corporate channels. And that the first season DVD of Jeremiah will be
> out in October. A fan corrected him and said it will be January. He
> wasn't involved in any commentary or anything else for this DVD.
According to the report posted by THE PULSE, JMS is fed up with MGM
and their lack of support for the show and would not return if there
was a season three. :( I am also disappointed in the lack of JMS
commentary or any sort of involvement with the DVDs. I will still buy
them but I had hoped for some kind of goodies from JMS in it.
> When Joe asked Samm the name of the episodes she wrote, she drew a
> blank, so Joe (being the nice guy he is) took full advantage of this and
> played it for a few laughs. She finally remembered one name but the
> other Joe had to give her a hint.
So they were "Rights of Passage" and "State of the Union"?
> Samm was a good sport about it all and did very well up there for her
> first time. (She's also easy on the eyes ). ;-)
Did you have a chance to talk to her? I thought she was a very nice
lady and I wish I wasn't so shellshocked that JMS knew who I was to
have a decent conversation with her.
Anyway, thanks so much for the report and let us know if you remember
any other details. :)
--
Monica Hübinette, owner of THE ABYSS
http://abyss.hubbe.net/b5/ | http://abyss.hubbe.net/jeremiah/
Jeremiah Newsletter - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeremiah-news/
ABYSS Forums - http://abyss.hubbe.net/echo/ (Win Jeremiah & B5 Stuff!)
I do what I love doing. The money is secondary. The funny thing is, if
you approach life that way, oddly you can often make a good living at
it. --JMS
The Nuclear Marine
ab...@hubbe.net (Monica Hübinette) wrote in
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> Here is an article with all the questions asked at the panel along
> with JMS' answers. Let us know if they left off anything. :)
>
> http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=0012
> 23
>
I read the article and it is not a verbatim question or response article.
It is a nice summary but seemed to show some statements in a different
tone.Some of the things annotated to jms was not what he said such as
Warner Bros. sitting on Crusade. To be fair, there were recordings of the
panel but I did not so I can't offer a verbatim transcript.
JMS says alot of things without others trying to force a foot in his mouth.
Nuke
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The Nuclear Marine
ab...@hubbe.net (Monica Hübinette) wrote in
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> Here is an article with all the questions asked at the panel along
> with JMS' answers. Let us know if they left off anything. :)
>
Jan
>It is a nice summary but seemed to show some statements in a different
>tone.
It was pretty obvious that the person posting it was transcribing notes, at
least to somebody who's been to see JMS before.
So, Nuke, did you get interviewed for the DVDs?
Dave Thomer
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> Just for clarificaiton... was this "something" a B5-related "something,"
or
> a different sort of something?
Sorry. It's a B5 something.
In the things-not-B5 department, he's working on developing a live action TV
series with Marvel. Details on that are still hazy. There's also an audio
drama coming, and his prose novels are being rereleased.
Scott
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Monica Hübinette wrote:
>
>Oh come on, tell us! Or just tell me. ;)
>
>*offers her ear so Scott can whisper it to her* :D
>
>
Sorry Monica I'm no snitch. I paid good money to go to San Diego and
get this info. Maybe I should auction the spoiler off on ebay ;-)
>According to the report posted by THE PULSE, JMS is fed up with MGM
>and their lack of support for the show and would not return if there
>was a season three. :(
>
May I ask when this came out? I wonder if they got there info from
Joe's Saturday panel?
>So they were "Rights of Passage" and "State of the Union"?
>
I don't remember what they said but you can check the net for the
episodes and verify that.
>Did you have a chance to talk to her? I thought she was a very nice
>lady and I wish I wasn't so shellshocked that JMS knew who I was to
>have a decent conversation with her.
>
Yes I did, and I agree she is very nice. She was at the autograph both
with Joe so we talked a little, and I got her to autograph my program
book. It was her first request for an autograph and she was surprised
and happy to do it.
Scott
David Hedden
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pastels, now."
(The Regent, In the Kingdom of the Blind)
-David
jehanne
"Dave Thomer" :
> In the things-not-B5 department, he's working on developing a live action
TV
> series with Marvel. Details on that are still hazy. There's also an
audio
> drama coming, and his prose novels are being rereleased.
Any possibility we'll get the un-edited version of "Othersyde?"
jehanne
The Nuclear Marine
janmsc...@aol.com (Jan) wrote in
news:20030723174342...@mb-m01.aol.com:
> Nuke wrote:
>
>>It is a nice summary but seemed to show some statements in a different
>>tone.
>
> It was pretty obvious that the person posting it was transcribing
> notes, at least to somebody who's been to see JMS before.
>
> So, Nuke, did you get interviewed for the DVDs?
>
Well, it was a message board so youse gets whats youse gets. Still, some
of the things listed did not seem in the spirit it was said so I felt a
caveat was appropriate.
For the interview, yes, nice that they handed the questions out before
hand so that you wouldn't be caught offguard. Granted the Marcus: Dead
or Frozen seemed like a silly question considering jms answered that
already in print.
Favorite Character - Garibaldi; Favorite Line - G'Kar's in Long Twilight;
Favorite Captain - Ivanova (not a choice, but she ran the station dammit,
and Sinclair never made Captain); forget the rest.
If I'm on the DVD, I'm the guy wearing a SWAT t-shirt and holding his
sleeping daughter.
Nuke - who annoyed a few at Comic-Con with his realistic feedback and
cell-phone impersonation (but not during a panel).
The Nuclear Marine
janmsc...@aol.com (Jan) wrote in
news:20030723174342...@mb-m01.aol.com:
> Nuke wrote:
>
>>It is a nice summary but seemed to show some statements in a different
>>tone.
>
> It was pretty obvious that the person posting it was transcribing
> notes, at least to somebody who's been to see JMS before.
>
> So, Nuke, did you get interviewed for the DVDs?
>
Well, it was a message board so youse gets whats youse gets. Still, some
of the things listed did not seem in the spirit it was said so I felt a
caveat was appropriate.
For the interview, yes, nice that they handed the questions out before
hand so that you wouldn't be caught offguard. Granted the Marcus: Dead
or Frozen seemed like a silly question considering jms answered that
already in print.
Favorite Character - Garibaldi; Favorite Line - G'Kar's in Long Twilight;
Favorite Captain - Ivanova (not a choice, but she ran the station dammit,
and Sinclair never made Captain); forget the rest.
If I'm on the DVD, I'm the guy wearing a SWAT t-shirt and holding his
sleeping daughter.
Nuke - who annoyed a few at Comic-Con with his realistic feedback and
cell-phone impersonation (but not during a panel).
--
Cheryl Martin
in <20030722005914...@mb-m29.aol.com>:
> Yeah, maybe, sure, but I look much more fetching in chiffon any day.
Thank you so much for that image.
Cheryl
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Dave Thomer
I don't think Othersyde was mentioned by name at the panel, to be honest, so
unfortunately I have nothing to add on that score.
Scott
>
>Like I said ... I wasn't thinking clearly after chatting
>with JMS. :o
>
I know what you mean, I have a tendency to loose my train of thought
when I speak with Joe also. He probably thinks I'm some sort of crazed
stalker or something.
Scott
Dave Thomer
> May I ask when this came out? I wonder if they got there info from
> Joe's Saturday panel?
I was at the second half of the Jeremiah panel and then the spotlight panel,
and I *think* this particular question and answer came in the spotlight
panel.
I definitely heard it Saturday afternoon, although at the time I was
thinking I must have misheard. But now seeing other people report it, I
guess I didn't.
Dan Dassow
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030718173008.21622.00000156%40mb-m07.aol.com
> For those who will be at my talk on Saturday, or know someone who will, Warner
> Bros. will be there with a film crew to interview fans and tape material for
> the season 5 DVD, which at my request will have a whole section on the fans,
> since that has always been an important part of the show.
>
> So if you're at the con, you may want to be sure to come by to get into a
> little slice of B5 history.
>
> jms
Joe,
It would be appropriate to honor three very special fans
of Babylon 5 on the season 5 DVD:
* Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Author of the Lurker's Guide
to Babylon 5
* Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers
and Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Although there have been other significant B5 fans, these three
individuals have done and continue to do the most to contribute
to the success of BABYLON 5.
Sincerely,
Dan Dassow
jehanne
"Dan Dassow" wrote:
> It would be appropriate to honor three very special fans
> of Babylon 5 on the season 5 DVD:
> * Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Author of the Lurker's Guide
> to Babylon 5
> * Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers
> and Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
>
> Although there have been other significant B5 fans, these three
> individuals have done and continue to do the most to contribute
> to the success of BABYLON 5.
What about the folks that were involved the "The Zocalo" newsletter way back
when...?
jehanne
Wendy of NJ
-Wendy of nj
Jan
Dan Dassow wrote:
Sandy Bruckner (and some others). And the Zocalo is still going strong, though
it's more general and mainly a website. Check out: http://www.isnnews.net/
Jan
Check out my auctions of rare Babylon 5 scripts and memorabilia at
http://tinyurl.com/bhkk
Pelzo63
It would be appropriate to honor three very special fans
of Babylon 5 on the season 5 DVD:
* Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Author of the Lurker's Guide
to Babylon 5
* Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers
and Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated >>
if it counts for anything, i second this.
...Chris, not normally posting in "aol" mode.
Dan Dassow
Sandra Bruckner (and some others) have been nominated and the
nomination has received a second. Who else would we like to
nominated?
Dan Dasssow
Dirk A. Loedding
pel...@aol.com (Pelzo63) wrote:
><< Joe,
>It would be appropriate to honor three very special fans
>of Babylon 5 on the season 5 DVD:
> * Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Author of the Lurker's Guide
> to Babylon 5
> * Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers
> and Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated >>
>
>if it counts for anything, i second this.
Add Fenn and Sandy Bruckner, and I'll second this.
And, not to toot my own horn, but I _have_ been publishing the JMS Posts
mailing list for over 8 years.
--
Thought for the day:
Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.
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| Dirk A. Loedding <*> ju...@america.net |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Cheryl Martin
<ju...@america.net> wrote in <q7nK/8MBAfM...@america.net>:
> In article <20030731191056...@mb-m25.aol.com>,
> pel...@aol.com (Pelzo63) wrote:
>
>><< Joe,
>>It would be appropriate to honor three very special fans
>>of Babylon 5 on the season 5 DVD:
>> * Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Author of the Lurker's Guide
>> to Babylon 5
>> * Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers
>> and Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated >>
>>
>>if it counts for anything, i second this.
>
> Add Fenn and Sandy Bruckner, and I'll second this.
>
> And, not to toot my own horn, but I _have_ been publishing the JMS Posts
> mailing list for over 8 years.
And many other great things for the B5 community! There's actually a
whole list of fans. For instance, the original "Rangers" who provided
a filtered feed of the unmod group for JMS. And the rest of the moderators
of this group.
Dan Dassow
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (1)
Joe,
It would be appropriate to honor some very special fans of Babylon 5
on the season 5 DVD:
* Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Chief author and Web Master
of the Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
* Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers and
Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
* Jennifer L. Dailey-O'Cain, Michael J. King Sr.,
Teresa Lhotka, John Schilling, Patricia A. Swan and
Bill Zimmer - The remaining Moderators of
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
* Sandy Bruckner (and some others) – Publisher of "The Zocalo"
newsletter (2)
* John Hudgens (AKA Fenn) - Official Babylon 5 Music Video
creator (3)
* Dirk A. Loedding – For publishing the JMS Posts mailing list
for over 8 years and for other great things for the B5 community
* Mike Hopkins – Conducted the P5 Poll
* Ron Jarrell and others - The original "Rangers" who provided
a filtered feed on the unmoderated group for JMS (4)
Notes:
(1) Please nominate other deserving B5 fans and the reason why
they should be considered.
(2) http://www.isnnews.net/
(3) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F08F40F.A78323BC%40usit.net
John Hudgens directed THE JEDI HUNTER, which he co-wrote
with Lowell Cunningham (MEN IN BLACK creator)...
the film is now up at:
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/jedi_hunter
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/spotlight/collections/starwars/
(4) Who are the remaining members of the original "Rangers"?
(5) We should also include the organizers of the B5 letter
campaign. I do not recall their names.
Jan
<<(1) Please nominate other deserving B5 fans and the reason why
they should be considered.>>
How about Doug Olson who maintains the JMSNews.com site? When it comes to JMS
quotes it's even better than Lurker's.
David Stinson
> Updated based on feedback from other contributors to
> rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (1)
>
> Joe,
> It would be appropriate to honor some very special fans of Babylon 5
> on the season 5 DVD:
> * Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Chief author and Web Master
> of the Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
> * Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers and
> Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
> * Jennifer L. Dailey-O'Cain, Michael J. King Sr.,
> Teresa Lhotka, John Schilling, Patricia A. Swan and
> Bill Zimmer - The remaining Moderators of
> rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
> * John Hudgens (AKA Fenn) - Official Babylon 5 Music Video
> creator (3)
> * Ron Jarrell and others - The original "Rangers" who provided
> a filtered feed on the unmoderated group for JMS (4)
>
> Notes:
> (1) Please nominate other deserving B5 fans and the reason why
> they should be considered.
> (2) http://www.isnnews.net/
> (3) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F08F40F.A78323BC%40usit.net
> John Hudgens directed THE JEDI HUNTER, which he co-wrote
> with Lowell Cunningham (MEN IN BLACK creator)...
> the film is now up at:
> http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/jedi_hunter
> http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/spotlight/collections/starwars/
> (4) Who are the remaining members of the original "Rangers"?
> (5) We should also include the organizers of the B5 letter
> campaign. I do not recall their names.
Gharlane of Eddore would be appropriate (fixes of Joe's science,
entertaining arguments, co-writing of the RASTB5M charter).
Who did the early UNIVERSE TODAY posts?
Dirk A. Loedding
Cheryl Martin <zof...@deepthot.org> wrote:
>There's actually a whole list of fans. For instance, the original
>"Rangers" who provided a filtered feed of the unmod group for JMS. And
>the rest of the moderators of this group.
That's a very good suggestion.
--
Thought for the day:
As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.
Dirk A. Loedding
>There's actually a whole list of fans. For instance, the original
>"Rangers" who provided a filtered feed of the unmod group for JMS. And
>the rest of the moderators of this group.
That's a very good suggestion.
--
Thought for the day:
As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.
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Monica Hübinette
> Fiona Avery was there, in the back of the room, and Joe and her
> exchanged some dialog about his "going New Jersey" on certain industry
> execs. He explained that term as a way to get back at the suits by
> sitting around the set not doing anything constructive and thus wasting
> money (or something like that).
Posting this here since I haven't seen the new thread show up yet.
Tim O'Shea emailed me again to let me know that his interview with
Fiona Avery has been published. She has been involved with many of
JMS' projects which include Babylon 5, Amazing Spider-Man, and more.
To read the interview with Silver Bullet Comics, visit:
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/106022262759209.htm
For more information, visit:
http://www.fionaavery.com/
--
Monica Hübinette, owner of THE ABYSS
http://abyss.hubbe.net/b5/ | http://abyss.hubbe.net/jeremiah/
Jeremiah Newsletter - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeremiah-news/
Our Forums - http://abyss.hubbe.net/echo/
I like world building. It's a favorite sport of mine. --JMS
Dan Dassow
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (1)
Joe,
It would be appropriate to honor some very special fans of Babylon 5
on the season 5 DVD:
* Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) - Chief author and Web Master
of the Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
* Jay Denebeim and Cheryl Martin - Moderators, Maintainers and
Owners of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
* Jennifer L. Dailey-O'Cain, Michael J. King Sr.,
Teresa Lhotka, John Schilling, Patricia A. Swan and
Bill Zimmer - The remaining Moderators of
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
* Sandy Bruckner (and some others) ? Publisher of "The Zocalo"
newsletter (2)
* John Hudgens (AKA Fenn) - Official Babylon 5 Music Video
creator (3)
* Dirk A. Loedding - For publishing the JMS Posts mailing list
for over 8 years and for other great things for the B5 community
* Mike Hopkins - Conducted the P5 Poll
* Ron Jarrell and others - The original "Rangers" who provided
a filtered feed on the unmoderated group for JMS (4)
* Gharlane of Eddore - Fixes of Joe's science, entertaining
arguments, co-writing of the RASTB5M charter (6)
* Bill Parks - "Universe Today" headlines
* Steven N. Orso - Also did some early UNIVERSE TODAY posts (7)
* Doug Olson - Maintains the JMSNews.com site, a great
source of JMS quotes
* Nathan Mates - Keeper of the Babylon 5 humor archive
* Chris Carter, Larry Crawford - For great puns and adding
humor to rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5 and
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Notes:
(1) Please nominate other deserving B5 fans and the reason why
they should be considered.
(2) http://www.isnnews.net/
(3) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F08F40F.A78323BC%40usit.net
John Hudgens directed THE JEDI HUNTER, which he co-wrote
with Lowell Cunningham (MEN IN BLACK creator)...
the film is now up at:
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/jedi_hunter
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/spotlight/collections/starwars/
(4) Who are the remaining members of the original "Rangers"?
(5) We should also include the organizers of the B5 letter
campaign. I do not recall their names.
(6) Even though many of us know the late Gharlante of Eddore's
real name, it would be inappropriate to disclose his identity.
(7) Steven N. Orso is part of the Adjunct Faculty of Art and Design
at University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. An example of
his Universe Today posts:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3ed52u%24pse%40vixen.cso.uiuc.edu&oe=UTF-8
Lee Whiteside
> It would be appropriate to honor some very special fans of Babylon 5
> on the season 5 DVD:
And from back in the Dark Ages before the moderated group and the WWW:
Troy Rutter - Who set up the original Babylon 5 email list and the
alt.tv.babylon5 newsgroup (and I think he was involved with the
campaign to create the original rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5 newsgroup)
Lee Whiteside - Who suffered the brickbats and name calling from Trek
fans in creating and posting the original Babylon 5 Frequently Asked
Questions List, which was the inspiration/basis for The Lurker's
Guide.
Dan Wood - Who took over the Babylon 5 FAQ and kept it updated for
several years until it was decided it had gotten redundant with the
success of the Lurker's Guide.
I did end up getting interviewed by the camera crew following Joe's
talk at ComicCon, although didn't get into the whole beginning of
Babylon 5 fandom.
Lee Whiteside
Webmaster sftv.org
Dan Dassow
rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (1)
Joe,
It would be appropriate to honor some very special fans of Babylon 5
on the season 5 DVD:
* Troy Rutter - Set up the original Babylon 5 email list
and the alt.tv.babylon5 newsgroup, was involved with the
campaign to create the original rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5 and
organized a letter campaign to to save Babylon 5newsgroup)
* Lee Whiteside - Suffered the brickbats and name calling
from Trek fans in creating and posting the original
Babylon 5 Frequently Asked Questions List, which was the
inspiration/basis for The Lurker's Guide (8)
* Dan Wood - Took over the Babylon 5 FAQ and kept it updated
for several years until it was decided it had gotten redundant
with the success of the Lurker's Guide
Notes:
(1) Please nominate other deserving B5 fans and the reason why
they should be considered.
(2) http://www.isnnews.net/
(3) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F08F40F.A78323BC%40usit.net
John Hudgens directed THE JEDI HUNTER, which he co-wrote
with Lowell Cunningham (MEN IN BLACK creator)...
the film is now up at:
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/jedi_hunter
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/spotlight/collections/starwars/
(4) Who are the remaining members of the original "Rangers"?
(5) We should also include the organizers of the B5 letter
campaign. I do not recall their names.
(6) Even though many of us know the late Gharlante of Eddore's
real name, it would be inappropriate to disclose his identity.
(7) Steven N. Orso is part of the Adjunct Faculty of Art and Design
at University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. An example of
his Universe Today posts:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3ed52u%24pse%40vixen.cso.uiuc.edu&oe=UTF-8
(8) Thanks to Lee Whiteside for the reminder.
lee...@yahoo.com (Lee Whiteside) wrote in message news:<6f6cca25.03081...@posting.google.com>...
> > Joe,
> > It would be appropriate to honor some very special fans of Babylon 5
> > on the season 5 DVD:
>
> And from back in the Dark Ages before the moderated group and the WWW:
>
> Troy Rutter - Who set up the original Babylon 5 email list and the
> alt.tv.babylon5 newsgroup (and I think he was involved with the
> campaign to create the original rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5 newsgroup)
Lee, thanks for the reminder. I have Troy to thank for introducing
me to Babylon 5.
>
> Lee Whiteside - Who suffered the brickbats and name calling from Trek
> fans in creating and posting the original Babylon 5 Frequently Asked
> Questions List, which was the inspiration/basis for The Lurker's
> Guide.
I'm embarrassed that I failed to remember what Lee went through
to publicize Babylon 5.
>
> Dan Wood - Who took over the Babylon 5 FAQ and kept it updated for
> several years until it was decided it had gotten redundant with the
> success of the Lurker's Guide.
Most likely Dan Wood is the one honored with the character G'Dan.
>
> I did end up getting interviewed by the camera crew following Joe's
> talk at ComicCon, although didn't get into the whole beginning of
> Babylon 5 fandom.
I'm looking forward to seeing the interview.
>
> Lee Whiteside
> Webmaster sftv.org
Dan Dassow
Joe Osman
Who set Joe up on GEnie and Compuserve originally, and who
used to repost his GEnie and Compuserve stuff on Usenet? I
don't even remember which group it was, but I remember
reading Joe's posts a year or two before the Gathering was
televised.
Joe
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John W. Kennedy
> Who set Joe up on GEnie and Compuserve originally,
I know of my own knowledge that he was using both of them by '87 at the
latest, when the biggest credit on his CV was "The Real Ghostbusters".
He _is_ computer-literate, y'know.
--
John W. Kennedy
"You can, if you wish, class all science-fiction
together; but it is about as perceptive as classing the
works of Ballantyne, Conrad and W. W. Jacobs together
as the 'sea-story' and then criticizing _that_."
-- C. S. Lewis. "An Experiment in Criticism"
Joe Osman
> Joe Osman wrote:
>
>> Who set Joe up on GEnie and Compuserve originally,
>
>
> I know of my own knowledge that he was using both of them by '87 at the
> latest, when the biggest credit on his CV was "The Real Ghostbusters".
> He _is_ computer-literate, y'know.
>
I thought I remembered him thanking a fan at GEnie running interference
for him and setting up the separate area on GEnie for his upcoming B5
program. I don't think GEnie and Compuserve users had the authority to
set up their own areas.
Joe
Rick Pali
Could be but "Who set Joe up on GEnie and Compuserve originally"
doesn't sound like it has anything to do with message areas. Reading
what you wrote (quoted above) made it sound like it was help getting
onto the system...
Just my two,
Rick.
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http://www.alienshore.com/seeking/
Dan Dassow
John Hardin used to compile "The JMS CIS Digest".
<http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/b5.html>
I vaguely remember that John also was the person
who ran interference for JMS on GEnie and/or Compuserve.
I'm trying to find the posting that I remember from around 1995.
When I find out who ran the interference,
I will post that information.
Regardless, John Hardin should be honored for compiling
"The JMS CIS Digest".
I also believe that John W. Kennedy should be honored
for all the intelligent and interesting postings
that he has made to rastb5 and rastb5-mod over the years.
Of course, there are a number of other people who have
made positive contributions to B5 by posting intelligent
and well reasoned postings. Suggestions are welcome.
Dan Dassow
Cheryl Martin
<dan_d...@my-deja.com> wrote in
<b1af4ff.03082...@posting.google.com>:
> Of course, there are a number of other people who have
> made positive contributions to B5 by posting intelligent
> and well reasoned postings. Suggestions are welcome.
Sherry Thompson! Remember her incredibly detailed analyses of each
episode?
I miss Sherry. And Jamie and Jeannette and Morgan and the Doge and
AmyCat and the Ruler of all jellybeans (except the black ones) *sigh*
Very glad to see Jaime and Captain Infinity around though!
Don't forget Elena Who? and her jumpgate pins.
Wesley Struebing
<zof...@deepthot.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:22:48 +0000 (UTC), Dan Dassow
><dan_d...@my-deja.com> wrote in
><b1af4ff.03082...@posting.google.com>:
>
>> Of course, there are a number of other people who have
>> made positive contributions to B5 by posting intelligent
>> and well reasoned postings. Suggestions are welcome.
>
>Sherry Thompson! Remember her incredibly detailed analyses of each
>episode?
>
>I miss Sherry. And Jamie and Jeannette and Morgan and the Doge and
>AmyCat and the Ruler of all jellybeans (except the black ones) *sigh*
Ahh...I miss *most* of the UK crew. Can't forget Tre and (very
occasionally) Morgan's David <sigh - those heady days of yesteryear>
>
>Very glad to see Jaime and Captain Infinity around though!
>
>Don't forget Elena Who? and her jumpgate pins.
>
Can't forget Trees, either. Wonder how all these old (only in the
sense of being around a long time ago) fen are doing these days?
I occasionally run into Elana on a.c.
--
Carpe Dementem! (grab the wacko)
Wes Struebing
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