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Eirik M Johansen

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Aug 5, 2002, 2:07:15 PM8/5/02
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Well done GNU! I've been trying out GNU for a while and must say I'm quite
impressed. I don't think it (yet?) matches Snowie, especially when it comes
to user interface and stuff like that. I do however have a few questions:

After analyzing a match I'm told (among other things) that I've done
mistakes. Is there any way to see what mistakes I've done?

Is there a way to make GNU "sort" the dice, i.e. make the bigger die appear
first. If I roll 13 I automatically read this as a 31 so instead of making
the 5-point I end up moving 8/7, 6/3.

Is it possible to right-click when you just want to bear two checkers off?

When doing rollouts I often find that the cubeless vs cubeful results differ
quite a bit. Is the cubeful equity always more correct?

Will it be possible to save & open matches & positions directly to/from
Snowie formats?

When setting up positions for analysis is it possible to change the match
length without changing the position? Or turn a match position into a money
game position?

Will there be some kind of user manual in the near future?

regards, eirik

Jørn Thyssen

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Aug 5, 2002, 2:42:34 PM8/5/02
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Eirik M Johansen wrote:
> Well done GNU! I've been trying out GNU for a while and must say I'm quite
> impressed. I don't think it (yet?) matches Snowie, especially when it comes
> to user interface and stuff like that. I do however have a few questions:
>
> After analyzing a match I'm told (among other things) that I've done
> mistakes. Is there any way to see what mistakes I've done?

They are marked with !, !!, ? or !? in the game list (windows->game list).


> Is there a way to make GNU "sort" the dice, i.e. make the bigger die appear
> first. If I roll 13 I automatically read this as a 31 so instead of making
> the 5-point I end up moving 8/7, 6/3.

Settings->Appearence->General->Show higher die on the left

>
> Is it possible to right-click when you just want to bear two checkers off?

No, but you may use Settings->Options->Automatic->Bearoff.

> When doing rollouts I often find that the cubeless vs cubeful results differ
> quite a bit. Is the cubeful equity always more correct?

Not necesarily, but they take the value of holding the cube into
account. In general, you cannot compare cubeful and cubeless equities.

For example,

GNU Backgammon Position ID: DwAA4AEAAAAAAA
Match ID : cAkAAAAAAAAA
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+ O: gnubg
| | | O | OOO 0 points
| | | O | OO
| | | O | OO
| | | O | OO
| | | | OO
v| |BAR| | (Cube: 1)
| | | | XX
| | | X | XX
| | | X | XX
| | | X | XX On roll
| | | X | XXX 0 points
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+ X: jth

The cubeless equity is +0.722, but the cubeful equity is:

Centered cube: +1.000 (double, pass)
X owns cube : +1.000 (redouble, pass)
O owns cube : +0.722

So for centered and X owning cube the cubeless equity is 0.278 from the
"true" equity.

>
> Will it be possible to save & open matches & positions directly to/from
> Snowie formats?

No, the Snowie formats are binary and not documented anywhere. You can
export matches from Snowie in .mat (Jellyfish format) and import those
into gnubg, but any analysis will be lost.

> When setting up positions for analysis is it possible to change the match
> length without changing the position? Or turn a match position into a money
> game position?

No, but it will be -- wait a month or so.

>
> Will there be some kind of user manual in the near future?

Well, if somebody writes it. Achim Mueller is coordinating the work on
the manual. Please write to bug-gnubg(at)gnu(dot)org if you would like
to assist with the manual.

Jørn

Eirik M Johansen

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Aug 5, 2002, 3:03:13 PM8/5/02
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Great, thanks a lot!


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Achim Mueller

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Aug 5, 2002, 7:22:01 PM8/5/02
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Jørn Thyssen <j...@NOSPAMchem.sdu.dk> writes:


> > Will there be some kind of user manual in the near future?

You can get a basic faq at http://mole.dnsalias.org/~acepoint/. I
don't know if it's already built in the windows gnubg.


> Well, if somebody writes it. Achim Mueller is coordinating the work on
> the manual. Please write to bug-gnubg(at)gnu(dot)org if you would like
> to assist with the manual.

I have to admit that I was quite busy in the past few weeks. Work on
documentation will go on in August (but you guys are coding too fast
;-)).

Ciao

Achim (aka acepoint)

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