Predictions
Konrad Gaertner
predictions in order to generate accuracy figures (for psychics,
economists, etc), and I thought about maybe doing that for predictions
made here, but that seemed too much like work, so I'll just start a
thread of predictions and let someone else archive them.
Terry Pratchett:
#TP-1: Rincewind will die. It probably won't be soon, and may not
be permanent, but it will happen.
#TP-2: Simon and Esk (from _Equal Rites_) will appear in some
future book.
#TP-3: The movie of _Good Omens_ will be made and released.
Eventually.
GRR Martin:
#GRRM-1: Sansa will still be alive at the beginning of the last
book.
#GRRM-2: The eunuch (Varys?) won't be alive by the last book.
Robin Hobb:
#RH-1: Her current trilogy, <The Tawny Man>, won't answer the
question of 'plumbing', to the dismay of her fans.
#RH-2: The next reprint of _The Wizard of the Pigeons_ will have
'Robin Hobb' listed as author (likely with the comment "writing as
Megan Lindholm").
Steven Brust:
[I shouldn't be doing this since he's currently active in other
threads and once said that if he sees speculation about his books
online, he considers it too obvious and so does something
different. But I can't resist.]
SKZB-1: Khaavren is Warlord, and has been since at least the
official end of the Interregnum (except for resignations).
SKZB-2-A: The current Duke of Eastmanswatch also holds most of
Adron's other titles, including Baron of Pepperfields.
SKZB-2-B: Morrolan was the Duke of Eastmanswatch prior to Aliera's
return (and probably still is).
SKZB-3-A: Vlad's dinner at Valabar's will take place off-screen.
SKZB-3-B: If not, Morrolan will show up during it.
SKZB-4: Vlad's first act after dinner will be to visit Noish-pa.
SKZB-5-A: _The Paths of the Dead_ will show us the statue (called
the Guardian?) near Deathsgate Falls, as well as the "embarrassing
ritual".
SKZB-5-B: We will also see Morrolan, Khaavren, and Sethra together
at the Falls (and possibly hear Sethra comment on her death).
SKZB-6: If anything in <Viscount> contradicts my predictions, I
will accuse Paarfi of making stuff up.
SKZB-7: If Cawti dies, it will happen off-screen.
SKZB-8: VN is Kieron the Conquerer reborn.
SKZB-9: _Jhegaala_ will be a collection of short stories.
SKZB-10: _Tsalmoth_ will include a resolution to Jhereg vendetta
against Vlad and/or Cawti's political activities.
SKZB-11: Vlad will live to old age, and die while deep-sea fishing
(because mountain climbing is too overused).
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Dan Goodman
news:3CDD8DF5...@worldnet.att.net:
> Steven Brust:
> [I shouldn't be doing this since he's currently active in other
> threads and once said that if he sees speculation about his books
> online, he considers it too obvious and so does something
> different. But I can't resist.]
Here are some of my predictions; let's see if he considers them too
obvious:
Vlad will realize that the Jenoine are the good guys.
The Serioli were once spacefarers. At their height, one of their favorite
jokes was creating intelligent species which put much of their intelligence
into doing stupid things. Among the species they created were humans and
Jenoine.
Vlad will wake up and realize he is actually the Reverend John Birch.
David Cowie
<snip!>
> Robin Hobb:
>
> #RH-1: Her current trilogy, <The Tawny Man>, won't answer the
> question of 'plumbing', to the dismay of her fans.
^^^^^^^^
Could someone explain the importance of "plumbing" for the non-fans?
And why it is in quote marks? I'm guessing that we're not talking about
the sort of plumbing that carries water to taps.
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Dorothy J Heydt
David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>On Saturday 11 May 2002 21:31, Konrad Gaertner wrote:
>
><snip!>
>> Robin Hobb:
>>
>> #RH-1: Her current trilogy, <The Tawny Man>, won't answer the
>> question of 'plumbing', to the dismay of her fans.
> ^^^^^^^^
>Could someone explain the importance of "plumbing" for the non-fans?
>And why it is in quote marks? I'm guessing that we're not talking about
>the sort of plumbing that carries water to taps.
Purely a guess... they've got an interspecies romance
going on and it has not yet been specified whether the
participants have genitals of such shape that will allow
them to copulate. (Remember that in many different but
similar species, spiders come to mind, the genitals are as
different as possible, on the order of keys cut to fit a
specific lock.)
Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
djh...@kithrup.com
http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt
Josh Rehman
> Purely a guess... they've got an interspecies romance
> going on and it has not yet been specified whether the
> participants have genitals of such shape that will allow
> them to copulate. (Remember that in many different but
> similar species, spiders come to mind, the genitals are as
> different as possible, on the order of keys cut to fit a
> specific lock.)
Shouldn't this post go under the "Things only women can say" thread? :-)
Dorothy J Heydt
I should think it would come under the heading of Things
either men or women can SAY, but it's iffy whether the
publisher is willing to print it.
Mike Schilling
news:3CDD8DF5...@worldnet.att.net...
>
> SKZB-1: Khaavren is Warlord, and has been since at least the
> official end of the Interregnum (except for resignations).
Is the warlord ever anything but a Dragon? We know that Khaavren is still
Captain of the Guard (from Teckla).
Konrad Gaertner
>
> In article <abm440$j5qcj$2...@ID-105025.news.dfncis.de>,
> David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
> >On Saturday 11 May 2002 21:31, Konrad Gaertner wrote:
> >
> ><snip!>
> >> Robin Hobb:
> >>
> >> #RH-1: Her current trilogy, <The Tawny Man>, won't answer the
> >> question of 'plumbing', to the dismay of her fans.
> > ^^^^^^^^
> >Could someone explain the importance of "plumbing" for the non-fans?
> >And why it is in quote marks? I'm guessing that we're not talking about
> >the sort of plumbing that carries water to taps.
It's in quotes because (IIRC) it's only used once in the seven books
in that world, and that from the character in question wondering why
everyone else puts so much importance on this issue. The quote is from
_Assassin's Quest_, the last book of the Farseer trilogy.
> Purely a guess... they've got an interspecies romance
> going on and it has not yet been specified whether the
> participants have genitals of such shape that will allow
> them to copulate.
Kinda close, but it seems clear that they're the same species. To
stretch the metaphor, it's not really the plumbling under discussion,
but, um, the fixtures.
Aren't you glad you asked?
Konrad Gaertner
>
> "Konrad Gaertner" <kgae...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:3CDD8DF5...@worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > SKZB-1: Khaavren is Warlord, and has been since at least the
> > official end of the Interregnum (except for resignations).
>
> Is the warlord ever anything but a Dragon?
Dragons are the most obvious choice. But this is Brust...
Keep in mind that Athrya are the obvious choice for Court Wizard, but
that's not true right now.
> We know that Khaavren is still Captain of the Guard (from Teckla).
Morrolan was the heir to the Orb (prior to Aliera's return); Sethra
was and still is the world's greatest general. Both were heavily
involved in getting Zerika and the Orb out of the Paths and
restoring the Imperium, yet neither got the title of Warlord.
Making Khaavren Warlord is the most obvious reason I can think of.
Also, we're told in _Phoenix_ that the Warlord resigned, and in
_Orca_ we hear that Khaavren does that in those situations.
Nancy Lebovitz
Konrad Gaertner <gae...@aol.com> wrote:
>On another thread, we're talking about setting up websites to archive
>predictions in order to generate accuracy figures (for psychics,
>economists, etc), and I thought about maybe doing that for predictions
>made here, but that seemed too much like work, so I'll just start a
>thread of predictions and let someone else archive them.
>
I have no opinions about the Brusts because I don't follow his
books.
You might be interested in <http://www.ideosphere.com/>--the
Foresight Institute (used to be Idea Futures), a site for betting
on predictions. (Play money only, unfortunately.)
--
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I want to move to theory. Everything works in theory.
Kai Henningsen
> In article <Xns920C642EC9111...@199.45.49.11>,
> Josh Rehman <jxaxvxax...@xyxaxhxoxox.xcxoxmx> wrote:
> >djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in news:Gw0A...@kithrup.com:
> >
> >> Purely a guess... they've got an interspecies romance
> >> going on and it has not yet been specified whether the
> >> participants have genitals of such shape that will allow
> >> them to copulate. (Remember that in many different but
> >> similar species, spiders come to mind, the genitals are as
> >> different as possible, on the order of keys cut to fit a
> >> specific lock.)
> >
> >Shouldn't this post go under the "Things only women can say" thread? :-)
> Why?
>
> I should think it would come under the heading of Things
> either men or women can SAY, but it's iffy whether the
> publisher is willing to print it.
This reminds me of "book titles only female collection editors can get
away with, and even so the publisher tends to want a big disclaimer" ... I
wonder who didn't recognize the series ;-)
Kai
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David Silberstein
Konrad Gaertner <gae...@aol.com> wrote:
>Mike Schilling wrote:
>>
>> "Konrad Gaertner" <kgae...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:3CDD8DF5...@worldnet.att.net...
>> >
>> > SKZB-1: Khaavren is Warlord, and has been since at least the
>> > official end of the Interregnum (except for resignations).
>>
>
>was and still is the world's greatest general. Both were heavily
>involved in getting Zerika and the Orb out of the Paths and
>restoring the Imperium, yet neither got the title of Warlord.
Sethra has this little problem of being publicly differently-alive.
I don't think she will ever be Warlord again, unless the rules are
changed. But she may not care that much. If her services are
needed in whatever capacity to preserve the Empire, I'm pretty sure
that whoever *is* Warlord will accept her advice.
Morrolan was appointed Court Wizard, wasn't he? There may be a
rule about the same person not holding more than one Imperial
post. Of course, if someone else was granted the post of Warlord,
giving the Wizardship to Morrolan might have been a compensation.
>Making Khaavren Warlord is the most obvious reason I can think of.
>Also, we're told in _Phoenix_ that the Warlord resigned, and in
>_Orca_ we hear that Khaavren does that in those situations.
>
Hmm. Would the Warlord actually come out personally to get
involved during an insurrection? And he's *already* wearing
a Secret Services hat along with his Captain of the Phoenix
Guards hat. How overloaded is the poor guy?
Paul Andinach
> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
> > In article <abm440$j5qcj$2...@ID-105025.news.dfncis.de>,
> > David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 11 May 2002 21:31, Konrad Gaertner wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip!>
> > > > Robin Hobb:
> > > >
> > > > #RH-1: Her current trilogy, <The Tawny Man>, won't answer
> > > > the question of 'plumbing', to the dismay of her fans.
> > > ^^^^^^^^
> > > Could someone explain the importance of "plumbing" for the
> > > non-fans? And why it is in quote marks? I'm guessing that
> > > we're not talking about the sort of plumbing that carries
> > > water to taps.
>
> It's in quotes because (IIRC) it's only used once in the seven
> books in that world, and that from the character in question
> wondering why everyone else puts so much importance on this
> issue. The quote is from _Assassin's Quest_, the last book of
> the Farseer trilogy.
>
> > Purely a guess... they've got an interspecies romance
> > going on and it has not yet been specified whether the
> > participants have genitals of such shape that will allow
> > them to copulate.
>
> Kinda close, but it seems clear that they're the same species.
You think? That's not the impression I got from _Assassin's Quest_.
> To stretch the metaphor, it's not really the plumbling under
> discussion, but, um, the fixtures.
Less obscurely: One of them is definitely male. The other one is
generally assumed to be male, but has on at least one occasion been
taken for female, and decided it would be amusing to avoid making any
definite pronouncement on the subject.
Paul
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Konrad Gaertner
Hmm. I think I need to re-read these books...
I know that SPOILER's parents were perfectly normal, of a lineage
that had crossbred with the funky folks. I *thought* they (the
parents) were human, but I might be wrong on this.
From the end of the Liveship books, I assumed that the funky folk
were interfertile with the Elderlings, and we know that humans can
turn into Elderlings (though its unclear what happens next).
Am I the only one who had trouble reconciling the way Hobb used the
word "Elderling" in those two series?
Paul Andinach
> Paul Andinach wrote:
> > You think? That's not the impression I got from _Assassin's
> > Quest_.
>
> Hmm. I think I need to re-read these books...
>
> I know that SPOILER's parents were perfectly normal, of a
> lineage that had crossbred with the funky folks. I *thought*
> they (the parents) were human, but I might be wrong on this.
>
> From the end of the Liveship books, I assumed that the funky
> folk were interfertile with the Elderlings, and we know that
> humans can turn into Elderlings (though its unclear what happens
> next).
Ah, well, I haven't read the Liveship books yet, so I defer to your
interpretation.
Fibbing Munchausen
When has our Terry ever killed off any of his major characters?
There's as much chance of that happening as a sitting captain of the
Enterprise really dying in the command chair (I'm talking *really
dying* - not their shite 'Ohhh, I was cloned in a transporter accident
and didn't realise I'm not me & now I'm dying'-type nonsense).
No ... Rincewind will live to bore us all a little more, I suspect.
BM
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Robert Carnegie
Ah. As Pratchett has it put in _The Fifth Elephant_ (I think)
discussing the romantic plot of a dwarf opera, "They were both
dwarfs." With long beards, in /that/ case, presumably not in this.
The person who explains the dwarf opera is a dwarf with a long
beard and a liking for dressing in women's clothing - and is,
in fact, what outlanders call "female", but in Pratchett dwarf
society that isn't considered an excuse.
Paul Andinach
news:52a903b3.0205...@posting.google.com:
> > #TP-1: Rincewind will die. It probably won't be soon, and may
> > not be permanent, but it will happen.
> Rincewind will die?
>
> When has our Terry ever killed off any of his major characters?
Well, he's been saying for a while that he was going to kill off a
popular recurring character, and has in fact done so in a recent
book.
Apart from that, I count at least two Discworld novels where actual
protagonists have died, and that's using the strictest definition of
"protagonist" (leaving out major supporting characters), and ignoring
a lot of near-death experiences, I-Aten't-Dead experiences, and other
temporary visits to Death's domain.
Rincewind himself was apparently killed off at the end of _The Colour
of Magic_, and of _Sourcery_, and was the recipient of one of the
aforementioned visits to Death's domain. One could almost argue that
the predicition has come true already.
Robert Carnegie
> On another thread, we're talking about setting up websites to archive
> predictions in order to generate accuracy figures (for psychics,
> economists, etc), and I thought about maybe doing that for predictions
> made here, but that seemed too much like work, so I'll just start a
> thread of predictions and let someone else archive them.
>
>
> Terry Pratchett:
>
> #TP-1: Rincewind will die. It probably won't be soon, and may not
> be permanent, but it will happen.
What, like he did in book 1, and in book 2, and again in _Eric_
and......?
> #TP-2: Simon and Esk (from _Equal Rites_) will appear in some
> future book.
Hmm, not sure. Their magic is mysterious and powerful and
wouldn't really fit in another story, and as far as I've read
Mort and what's-her-name haven't come back alive or otherwise
on-panel, except in what amounts to a flashback in, um,
_Hogfather_? Wherever we first met Susan.
If you want to re-use someone powerful without finishing the
story deus ex machina as soon as they get involved, you have
to do something about it, such as make them lazy or reclusive
or antisocial and in all cases difficult to persuade to take
a hand (such persuasion thus becoming the quest or at least
a significant part of it), like that bloke in Piers Anthony's
Xanth.
> #TP-3: The movie of _Good Omens_ will be made and released.
> Eventually.
At some date before the movie industry is replaced completely
by CGI or public utility holodecks...
Certificate? What about the sex scenes?
I dunno if this prediction is useful. Try "The first
Terry Pratchett novel(s) to become a motion picture with a
U.S./U.K. theatrical release (delete to choice) will be...?"
The last I heard, it looks like _Truckers_/_Diggers_/_Wings_
is ahead...?
Anyway.
Arthur C. Clarke:
#AC-1: Speculation about his sex life will go into overdrive when
he dies and can no longer sue.
#AC-2: Everything that Clarke ever predicted, particularly with
respect to space technology and information technology, will come
to pass, but in between two and three times the duration that he
predicted in the case of space and in half the time in the case of IT.
And except for the Russians being involved.
#AC-3: No one will be able to remember whether he or Asimov invented
that law about technology and magic, and all those ones about robots.
Star Trek:
#ST-1: The later "novels" based on characters in the new _Enterprise_
TV show will be much better than the earlier ones. Especially
Peter David's.
#ST-2: The next Star Trek show will be regarded as nowhere near as
good as _Enterprise_, right up until Q or Lwxana Troi appears in it.
#ST-3: The next Star Trek show will be delivered over third-generation
cell phones designed to look like early Trek communicators.
#ST-4: Everyone will hate the cute kid genius.
#ST-5: The cute kid genius will be a girl this time.
#ST-6: And blind.
#ST-7: And genetically engineered.
#ST-8: By Reg Barclay.
#ST-9: And Lwxana Troi.
Harlan Ellison:
#HE-1: He will be buried with the unpublished _Dangerous Visions_
stories.
#HE-2: Someone will dig him up to get them.
#HE-3: Okay, so instead he'll be cremated with the stories.
#HE-4: Someone uses a molecular recombiner to restore the manuscript
from the smoke.
#HE-5: At this point, the stories all turn out to be lousy.
#HE-6: His memorial speech will be given by someone who mostly knows
his work for _Star Trek_, and who is in Starfleet uniform.
(Well, it wasn't going to be that other guy; he has no mouth.)
James White:
#JW-1: When _Sector General Hospital_ is filmed, Major O'Mara
will have a Puckish wit and affectionate good-humour and a
southern Irish accent. SF conventions will be picketed by
Ulster Loyalists, but this will not matter because White's
readers will already be picketing Hollywood.
#JW-2: George Lucas will offer Jar-Jar Binks for use in the
second Sector General film.
#JW-3: The second Sector General film is cancelled after
James White rises from his grave in Ireland, swims the
Atlantic, marches across America and strangles Lucas.
Douglas Adams:
#DA-1: The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie will be
delivered on multimedia pocket computers designed to look
like you know very well what.
#DA-2: In a tribute to Adams' distinctive working style,
the film will be released ten years after principal photography
was supposed to be finished.
#DA-3: In the movie, the voice of "The Book" will be provided
by Robin Williams, aged 60, and it will CGI-morph into comical
shapes to illustrate the text being spoken.
Larry Niven:
#LN-1: He will somewhat surprise fans by marrying Jerry Pournelle.
raymond larsson
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Death must be present at his death. Scrofula doesn't count and so we know
Rincewind aten't dead yet.
--
rgl is scrofula called the king's evil just so people can say "The
king's evil"?
Nancy Lebovitz
Paul Andinach <pand...@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>fibbingm...@hotmail.com (Fibbing Munchausen) wrote in
>news:52a903b3.0205...@posting.google.com:
>
>> > #TP-1: Rincewind will die. It probably won't be soon, and may
>> > not be permanent, but it will happen.
>
>> Rincewind will die?
>>
>> When has our Terry ever killed off any of his major characters?
>
>Well, he's been saying for a while that he was going to kill off a
>popular recurring character, and has in fact done so in a recent
Doesn't that leave Rincewind out?
>book.