The Prolixin Shuffle
Kerro
is my usenet motto.
[Note: this is social; not political]
Over the years, I've come across some fairly disturbing - and morbid -
stories about the use of psychiatric stun-drugs in American Gulags....
I mean Correctional Centers.
In an interview in an Aussie magazine, one inmate of the Florida State
Penitentiary (or whatever it's called) made some fairly creepy
references to the "professional torturers" in the psychiatric wing of
that particular....Joint.
I just finished reading Seth Morgan's not-bad blockbuster, "Homeboy".
He wrote about the Coldwater Correctional Facility in California,
which had one such psychiatric torture ward, known as "Z-Block".
An inmate could end up there for a number of reasons, and once there,
it was terminal. This was supposedly a "Dead End" ward and the average
life-expectancy was six months. The inmates of Z-Block were pumped
full of Prolixin on a daily basis, which reduced them to drooling
zombies, barely able to move or speak. In other prisons, drugs like
Haldol and Thorazine were similarly used.
I get the distinct impression that there are no real controls involved.
A court can order the forcible use of a drug like Prolixin on an
"intractable" inmate and then, that's what he gets daily, with no
"maximum usage" limit of any sort.
Surely there are UN Human Rights rulings that would prevent such
abuses. Yes?
Kerro
Cathy Walshe
> I'm not sure if this is a good article or not, but "when in doubt, post"
> is my usenet motto.
leave it out". This means that a myriad of small, yet perfectly formed
posts are crafted, honed, polished, reworked then cruelly and
unceremoniously cancelled. What I want to know is, how can I claim
credit for this undoubtedly vital service which, in its own tiny way,
makes a miniscule improvement to the overall quality of AFU?
I propose that, for every time I don't post, a small amount - say
two-fifty - is deposited by the kabal into my numbered Swiss bank
account. Conversely, every time I post, the kabal may debit my account
for a similar amount.
Cathy "damn!" Walshe
Ed Kaulakis
Kerro, I gotta tell you - the US is chocka with people who will take
this as political. Deceived by their misunderstanding of such terms as
"American Gulag", "professional torturers", "6 months life expectancy",
"psychiatric torture ward", and the suggestion that the UN has
sovereignty over the US, they will be unable to appreciate its deeply
personal qualities. To hell with them though, onwards to vorification.
Your first cite, "an Aussie magazine", didn't give me much traction with
the search engines, sorry. Can not vorify.
Seth Morgan appears to have been famous for having been Janis Joplin's
boyfriend, I *hope* back in the 60s. His blockbuster Homeboy[1] was
published in 1990, to favorable reviews, and he died in a motorcycle
accident not long after.
So I can vorify that a junkie inmate with quite the gift for language
had bad things to say about the prison system. As to his voracity, who
can say? I cannot, for example, find a "Coldwater Correctional Facility"
in California, although there appears to be a correctional facility in
Coldwater Michigan.
Thorazine, prolixin, and other major anti-psychotics have replaced
straight-jackets. Nobody likes them but nobody has anything better.
There are problems being around people who parse reality differently
than you do. Emotional two-year-olds with adult muscles are fucking
dangerous. So are psychiatrists, they can classify you as psychotic. But
what's the alternative?
In every society there is a place where the debate "I am not subject to
your rules!" - "Yes, you are." is brought to a conclusion. Society is,
finally, founded on authority. You are at liberty to disagree - but
without that authority in place you'd be quickly silenced by those who
disagree with you.
I gather from your quotes ("intractable" inmates) that you disapprove of
the concept of inmates being required to comply. But do you have an
alternative?
What "real controls" (beyond a court order) on diagnoses of psychosis do
you suggest? These are exigent circumstances, involving inmates who are
"a danger to themselves or to others". So, you want what? Two court
orders? UN monitors?
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[1] ObExcerpt:
If you want to know what withdrawal is like, read this scene disturbing
scene in Seth Morgan's novel, Homeboy, in which his incarcerated hero
suffers extreme bowel activity after months of heroin-provoked
constipation:
"Then the Big Hurt pushed aside all thinking and Joe could only lie
hugging his cramped middle and suffer the agony that gnawed on itself,
metastasised, grew like a cold malignant fetus in him. A reeking viscous
sweat like cold bacon drippings filled him. The jailhouse stinks...
dizzied him with nausea.
"Orgasm after electric hairtrigger orgasm convulsed his groin. His
entire being became the shortcircuiting terminus of a billion scraped
and shrieking nerves.
"And then came ripping down from his intestines that glacial fecal
boulder compacted by months of bowel paralysis, and through gritted
teeth he cried: 'Christ! The Yenshee baby.'
"He bailed out of his bunk and staggered to a rear toilet where he sat
bent double for minutes or hours, he didn't know, trying to pass this
bowel monster; until sudden pain flashed the darkness and he felt
himself tearing in two. Blood vomited into the toilet. His sweatslick
buttocks slipped off and he was on the floor, shrieks percussing his
skull; and from a great distance heard Smoothbore shouting at the bars:
'MAN DOWN!' "
And this is just self-inflicted suffering. No doubt he is even more
eloquent when The Man gets around to him.
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Ed "it ain't the Hilton" Kaulakis
Richard Clark
Drew Lawson
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> writes:
>I'm not sure if this is a good article or not, but "when in doubt, post"
>is my usenet motto.
>
>[Note: this is social; not political]
>
>Over the years, I've come across some fairly disturbing - and morbid -
>stories about the use of psychiatric stun-drugs in American Gulags....
[Note: no, it isn't]
Drew "Next!" Lawson
--
Drew Lawson | Radioactive cats have
dr...@furrfu.com | 18 half-lives
http://www.furrfu.com/ |
Len Berlind
So far, it's a wash.
Credits Debits
======= ======
Not posting two-fifty
Posting about not posting two-fifty
L"Thank you for not posting about not posting."B
Garylian
If you have never been in a psychiatric ward or a prison where psychiatric
patients are, you shouldn't even comment on treatment methods! Wow, it is a
different world there.
My father-in-law did plenty of prison ministry activity. There were times
that he went into the zones where the really bad patients were, but who
didn't qualify to be in a mental institution. Without the drugs, those
people go on rampages, and are extremly dangerous to themselves and others.
While doing my paramedic rotations, I was made (kicking and screaming,
because I was afraid they may decide to keep me there) go to a psychiatric
ward. Thankfully, for the most part, these people were quiet. All were
self-admitted for care. But, before 8 hours could go by, I had seen several
violent outbursts that were all the more scary due to the fact that they
WERE medicated already.
Finally, as a paramedic, I can tell you that being in the back of the
ambulance while a person is having an extreme psychotic episode is as scary
as it gets. Which is why in many jurisdictions allow paramedics to
administer Haloperidol (Haldol) in the field. Try having an 87yr old woman
who looks like a kindly grandmother in the back of your ambulance, and she
has thrown police officers around before you finally tied her down to a
backboard. And watching the hospital staff untie her, and see her toss a
few security guards and orderlies around, and break a nurses nose. Then,
you think that dose of Haldol is appropriate.
Working with psychiatric patients is a very trying field, and burnout is
common. After a while, the caretakers will start to jump the dose as high
as their protocols demand just to have some peace and quiet. Is the patient
better? Who knows. They weren't right to start with. But, they are less
of a danger to themselves and others.
Abuse can happen in any situation where medications are used to alter a
patient's behavior. But as long as they are getting the ordered dose of
medicine, and the patients aren't being abused by their caretakers, let them
be sedated.
It is certainly preferable to seeing an 87yr old woman, strapped to a
backboard, lift your friendly neighborhood paramedic (me) off the ground
with one arm; and I weighted about 180lbs at the time.
Garylian
Chris Clarke
Garylian <gary...@attbi.com> wrote:
[after quoting Ed K's post in its entirety, necessitating a bit of
scrolling: I imagine someone here has an extra Delete key if yours is
missing]
> Try having an 87yr old woman who looks like a kindly grandmother in
> the back of your ambulance, and she has thrown police officers around
> before you finally tied her down to a backboard.
I'm not sure whether to <jrh> the first six words above, refer Garylian
to the canonical voracious grandmother for future reference, or page
Robert Alston.
--
Chris Clarke | Editor, Faultline Magazine
www.faultline.org | California Environmental News and Information
Ed Kaulakis
"Chris Clarke" <ccl...@faultline.org> wrote in message
news:cclarke-26C77E...@news.attbi.com...
> In article <3CA0F3A6...@attbi.com>,
> Garylian <gary...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> [after quoting Ed K's post in its entirety, necessitating a bit of
> scrolling: I imagine someone here has an extra Delete key if yours is
> missing]
>
> > Try having an 87yr old woman who looks like a kindly grandmother in
> > the back of your ambulance, and she has thrown police officers
around
> > before you finally tied her down to a backboard.
>
> I'm not sure whether to <jrh> the first six words above, refer
Garylian
> to the canonical voracious grandmother for future reference, or page
> Robert Alston.
>
Just Random Hat? Jones Requiring Haldol? What? Whaat??!
Don't let her get hungry! We put her in a 4plex once, and within a month
it was a single. If you know what I mean.
Ed "Annabelle" Kaulakis
Rick Tyler
>"Chris Clarke" <ccl...@faultline.org> wrote ...
>> Garylian <gary...@attbi.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Try having an 87yr old woman who looks like a kindly grandmother in
>> > the back of your ambulance, and she has thrown police officers
>> > around before you finally tied her down to a backboard.
>>
>> I'm not sure whether to <jrh> the first six words above, refer
>> Garylian to the canonical voracious grandmother for future reference,
>> or page Robert Alston.
>
>Just Random Hat? Jones Requiring Haldol? What? Whaat??!
Jason R. Heimbaugh. One of the most upright of all the Undead
AFUisti.
-- Rick "Google on 'salacious'" Tyler
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I'm not inclined to give him or her a present." -- JoAnne Schmitz
Kerro
>
> In article <3CA028E5...@NOSPAM.mira.net>
> Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> writes:
> >I'm not sure if this is a good article or not, but "when in doubt, post"
> >is my usenet motto.
> >
> >[Note: this is social; not political]
> >
> >Over the years, I've come across some fairly disturbing - and morbid -
> >stories about the use of psychiatric stun-drugs in American Gulags....
>
> [Note: no, it isn't]
Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans don't like to
hear anything which might contradict their land-of-the-free/apple
pie self-image. I could be wrong, of course. Anyway, that's getting
a bit political, I know.
>
> Drew "Next!" Lawson
That's what the doctors in Z-Block say....
Kerro
Kerro
>
> "Kerro" <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote in message
> news:3CA028E5...@NOSPAM.mira.net...
[Prolixin]
> Kerro, I gotta tell you - the US is chocka with people who will take
> this as political. Deceived by their misunderstanding of such terms as
> "American Gulag", "professional torturers", "6 months life expectancy",
> "psychiatric torture ward", and the suggestion that the UN has
> sovereignty over the US, they will be unable to appreciate its deeply
> personal qualities. To hell with them though, onwards to vorification.
Stout chap!
>
> Your first cite, "an Aussie magazine", didn't give me much traction with
> the search engines, sorry. Can not vorify.
It was in a Melbourne-based mag called 'Fatal Visions'. This was one
of those pop/junk culture/movie efforts that became popular sometime
after Punk. I think the inmate may actually have been John Wayne Gacy.
The magazine used to occasionally interview famous Merkin serial killers,
like the guy from "Henry - Portrait of a Serial Killer" [@] etc.
>
> Seth Morgan appears to have been famous for having been Janis Joplin's
> boyfriend, I *hope* back in the 60s. His blockbuster Homeboy[1] was
> published in 1990, to favorable reviews, and he died in a motorcycle
> accident not long after.
>
> So I can vorify that a junkie inmate with quite the gift for language
> had bad things to say about the prison system. As to his voracity, who
> can say? I cannot, for example, find a "Coldwater Correctional Facility"
> in California, although there appears to be a correctional facility in
> Coldwater Michigan.
>
> Thorazine, prolixin, and other major anti-psychotics have replaced
> straight-jackets. Nobody likes them but nobody has anything better.
> There are problems being around people who parse reality differently
> than you do. Emotional two-year-olds with adult muscles are fucking
> dangerous. So are psychiatrists, they can classify you as psychotic. But
> what's the alternative?
"Parse reality differently".... Ed, that's brilliant! Did you make
that up? Love it.
>
> In every society there is a place where the debate "I am not subject to
> your rules!" - "Yes, you are." is brought to a conclusion. Society is,
> finally, founded on authority. You are at liberty to disagree - but
> without that authority in place you'd be quickly silenced by those who
> disagree with you.
>
> I gather from your quotes ("intractable" inmates) that you disapprove of
> the concept of inmates being required to comply. But do you have an
> alternative?
Not really. I know that most such inmates are probably violent scum - not
necessarily psychotic; just criminal trash - but it's still a worry that
there might not be any alternative to permanently dosing someone with
a drug which has horrific side effects and can destroy your health, or
even kill you in the long run.
Also, at the risk of sounding like a Bleeding Heart, prisoners do still
have the right to a certain humanity/dignity. There was a far bigger
outcry over that dog being killed on the freeway a few months ago, than
you ever hear about inmates being brutalized.
>
> What "real controls" (beyond a court order) on diagnoses of psychosis do
> you suggest? These are exigent circumstances, involving inmates who are
> "a danger to themselves or to others". So, you want what? Two court
> orders? UN monitors?
UN monitors.
[...]
[@] Now *he* made some pretty startling claims, including having once
belonged to a Texan cannibal cult (one of his favourite dishes was
"Titties on Toast") and having, on one occasion, served up a human chili
at a chili cook-off in Texas.
Kerro
Meredith Robbins
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
> Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans
I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
knock it the fuck off.
Meredith
--
"Professor Kelley will not hold office hours today.
He was hit by a car. He hopes to be back next week."
http://www.exileinnetville.com has a sugar daddy.
Deborah Stevenson,,,
>Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans don't like to
>hear anything which might contradict their land-of-the-free/apple
>pie self-image.
Many of us are interested in hearing about it. In the proper venue.
Which isn't here.
Take it where it belongs or stop it.
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Phil Edwards
wrote:
>I sometimes get the impression that Americans don't like to
>hear anything which might contradict their land-of-the-free/apple
>pie self-image. I could be wrong, of course. Anyway, that's getting
>a bit political, I know.
I'm very sorry you choose to politicize this discussion. That's
certainly a charectoristic of the radical left.
- anon., somewhere on Usenet
Phil "my name's Phil Edwards, goodnight!" Edwards
--
Phil Edwards http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/amroth/
"TV shows don't go out to buy the newspaper."
- Nathan Tenny sleeps furiously
John Francis
>hear anything which might contradict their land-of-the-free/apple
>pie self-image.
Too bad you don't get the message that even we non-Americans don't
want to hear political polemics bandied around in AFU. Nor, for
that matter, do we want to hear what stereotyped impressions people
have about any nationality - not even about Austrians.
--
John "it's not where you are from - it's how you behave" Francis
Chris Clarke
jo...@panix.com (John Francis) wrote:
> Nor, for that matter, do we want to hear what stereotyped impressions
> people have about any nationality - not even about Austrians.
So just shut up about those stereotypical tattooed MDs with red hair,
everybody.
D.F.
>
>So just shut up about those stereotypical tattooed MDs with red hair,
>everybody.
The froup has been polite, etc. of late. Anybody wanna fight?
D "Over anything. I don't care" F
AFU explained: Phil Edwards, "Damn right. It's Rule I round these parts - don't
bogart the virgule." R. H. Draney, "pTKSCRwww! vbkTSRWvpppp!"
Len Berlind
>hear anything which might contradict their land-of-the-free/apple
>pie self-image. I could be wrong, of course. Anyway, that's getting
>a bit political, I know.
Not really. It's more like dropping a snide little turd in the punchbowl
and then skittering away giggling like a schoolgirl.
L"So quit being a snide little turd."B
Lon Stowell
The problem is that the topic IS political in and of itself, which
brings in the loonie tunes far too reliably. You might be
surprised to learn how many americans frankly don't meet your
wanky assed 'roo humping stereotypes.
Posing that as a "apple pie" syndrome is pretty lame, to be kind.
Almost as lame as posing it as an "apple pie" syndrome.
--
I'm right. Period. Anyone who believes different is retarded.
JamiJo explains the standards of evidence to the unwashed.
D.F.
The beautiful flow of ideas prompts another look.
D "Anti-symmetric" F
Ed Kaulakis
"D.F." <doogl...@aol.communicate> wrote in message
news:20020327163031...@mb-mk.aol.com...
> Chris Clarke ccl...@faultline.org wrote:
>
> >
> >So just shut up about those stereotypical tattooed MDs with red hair,
> >everybody.
>
> The froup has been polite, etc. of late. Anybody wanna fight?
>
> D "Over anything. I don't care" F
Maybe in a couple of weeks.
Ed "taking it easy" Kaulakis
Kerro
>
> In article <3CA17AF7...@NOSPAM.mira.net>,
> Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
>
> > Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans
>
> I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
> knock it the fuck off.
Will do.
Kerro
D.F.
You are too kind.
D "Patient" F
Rick Tyler
<meredi...@hellokitty.com> wrote:
>In article <3CA17AF7...@NOSPAM.mira.net>,
> Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
>
>> Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans
>
>I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
>knock it the fuck off.
Mine!!!!
Rick "If I wasn't already married..." Tyler
--
"I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
knock it the fuck off." -- Meredith Robbins clarifies the BoP in AFU
__________________________________________________________________
"Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the
depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian
JoAnne Schmitz
Unfortunately, your not posting is not nearly as valuable to us as some prolific
(prolix) posters' not posting.
JoAnne "you couldn't afford it" Schmitz
TdN
>
> Posing that as a "apple pie" syndrome is pretty lame, to be kind.
> Almost as lame as posing it as an "apple pie" syndrome.
Is that a syndrome whose top sheet is doubled over so you can't get into it?
T "with Cheddar, please, not cheese" dN
Kerro
>
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:38:34 -0500, Meredith Robbins
> <meredi...@hellokitty.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <3CA17AF7...@NOSPAM.mira.net>,
> > Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans
> >
> >I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
> >knock it the fuck off.
>
> Mine!!!!
>
> Rick "If I wasn't already married..." Tyler
Maybe I shouldn't have used the term "Gulags".....
Kerro
Rick Tyler
wrote:
>On 26 Mar 2002 03:05:32 -0800, cathy_...@hotmail.com (Cathy Walshe) wrote:
>
>>I like your Usenet motto better than mine, which is "When in doubt,
>>leave it out". This means that a myriad of small, yet perfectly formed
>>posts are crafted, honed, polished, reworked then cruelly and
>>unceremoniously cancelled.
<snip>
>
>Unfortunately, your not posting is not nearly as valuable to us as some prolific
>(prolix) posters' not posting.
Hey! I can cut back any time I want.
-- Rick "Last weekend for example..." Tyler
Kerro
>
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:55:35 +1100, Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I sometimes get the impression that Americans don't like to
> >hear anything which might contradict their land-of-the-free/apple
> >pie self-image. I could be wrong, of course. Anyway, that's getting
> >a bit political, I know.
>
> I'm very sorry you choose to politicize this discussion. That's
> certainly a charectoristic of the radical left.
> - anon., somewhere on Usenet
I'm not a radical leftie. I'm a warm and cuddly leftie.
Kerro
Kerro
I don't giggle. Not like a schoolgirl anyway. If I *were* to giggle,
I would try and sound like that villain from 'Dirty Harry'.
I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
Kerro
Deborah Stevenson,,,
>I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
>more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
>Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
Remember when you said you'd knock it off? This would be not knocking it
off.
I'm operating on the perhaps naive assumption that you aren't
deliberately, as Len puts it, shitting in the punchbowl.
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Crashj
<>
> The froup has been polite, etc. of late. Anybody wanna fight?
>
<>
We used up the quantum nicey nice in the bomb shelter thread, and that
was political.
Crashj 'meeowre' Johnson
Drew Lawson
Not a free range radical?
Drew "bleeding heart fascist" Lawson
--
Drew Lawson | Radioactive cats have
dr...@furrfu.com | 18 half-lives
http://www.furrfu.com/ |
Drew Lawson
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> writes:
>I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
>more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
>Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
I haven't seen that refrain *here*.
Perhaps you're wanting talk.politics.*?
Drew "or alt.troll" Lawson
Chris Clarke
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
> I'm not a radical leftie. I'm a warm and cuddly leftie.
GIF!!!!1!
Chris Clarke
Deborah Stevenson,,, <stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> writes:
>
> >I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
> >more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
> >Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
>
> Remember when you said you'd knock it off? This would be not knocking it
> off.
My guess is that someone accidentally sent some actual beer to Austria,
and Kerro hasn't built up a tolerance yet.
TdN
>
> I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
> more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
> Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
Hitler.
T "there--are we done now?" dN
Kerro
Not bad! I laughed.
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Kerro
Kerro
>
> Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> writes:
>
> >I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
> >more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
> >Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
>
> Remember when you said you'd knock it off? This would be not knocking it
> off.
I know. I was going to knock it off, but then Rick Tyler's follow-up to
young Meredith's enthusiastic-but-not-very-forceful rejoinder
irritated me so much that I felt compelled to assert myself
(slightly) further. Perhaps *Rick* thought that Mezza's
youthful enthusiasm carried some punch, but as an alt.flame
veteran with many years' experience, I can assure you she's
no Barbara Abernathy.
NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
trust me...
>
> I'm operating on the perhaps naive assumption that you aren't
> deliberately, as Len puts it, shitting in the punchbowl.
Not deliberately, no.
(But I am about to knock it off now, anyway. Unless somebody
else starts it up again).
Kerro
John Francis
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
>
>NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
>trust me...
And lo, the sound of plonking echoed through the hills,
and there was much rejoicing.
--
John "go wave your dick somewhere else" Francis
Meredith Robbins
<snip>
You thought that was a flame? It is to laugh. Now go fuck yourself.
Meredith "" Robbins
--
"Professor Kelley will not hold office hours today.
He was hit by a car. He hopes to be back next week."
http://www.exileinnetville.com has a sugar daddy.
Meredith Robbins
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
> Rick Tyler wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:38:34 -0500, Meredith Robbins
> > <meredi...@hellokitty.com> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <3CA17AF7...@NOSPAM.mira.net>,
> > > Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Heh, I sometimes get the impression that Americans
> > >
> > >I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
> > >knock it the fuck off.
> >
> > Mine!!!!
> >
> > Rick "If I wasn't already married..." Tyler
(I'm piggybacking because Rick's post hasn't showed up here yet. Such
is the way of the world.)
Four years... four long, long, *long*[1] years I post my fingers to the
bone for you people, searching Lexis-Nexis far into the night, burning
the proverbial candle at both proverbial ends, hoping someday...
someday...
At last that day is here. You may still wear shoes that have been
around longer than I have, but by God -- my day has come.
Meredith "And I owe all my fucking success to swearing" Robbins
1. Long.
Phil Edwards
wrote:
>I was going to knock it off, but then Rick Tyler's follow-up to
>young Meredith's enthusiastic-but-not-very-forceful rejoinder
>irritated me so much that I felt compelled to assert myself
>(slightly) further. Perhaps *Rick* thought that Mezza's
>youthful enthusiasm carried some punch, but as an alt.flame
>veteran with many years' experience, I can assure you she's
>no Barbara Abernathy.
>
>NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
>trust me...
Knock it off, Kerro.
Phil "now" Edwards
--
Phil Edwards http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/amroth/
"TV shows don't go out to buy the newspaper."
- Nathan Tenny sleeps furiously
Kerro
>
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:53:47 +1100, Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I was going to knock it off, but then Rick Tyler's follow-up to
> >young Meredith's enthusiastic-but-not-very-forceful rejoinder
> >irritated me so much that I felt compelled to assert myself
> >(slightly) further. Perhaps *Rick* thought that Mezza's
> >youthful enthusiasm carried some punch, but as an alt.flame
> >veteran with many years' experience, I can assure you she's
> >no Barbara Abernathy.
> >
> >NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
> >trust me...
>
> Knock it off, Kerro.
>
> Phil "now" Edwards
Ok, Phil. I was a bit Tired & Emotional. Had a few drinkies.
I'm knocking it off *right now* and will not follow up to
this thread, no matter what is written.
Kerro
Deborah Stevenson,,,
>(But I am about to knock it off now, anyway. Unless somebody
>else starts it up again).
Knock it off even then. Because it's just as legitimate to say that *you*
started it up and they're responding to you.
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Len Berlind
>you she's``no Barbara Abernathy.
Geeze Louise! Is she still alive?
L"Old flame."B
Anthony McCafferty
>NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
>trust me...
Oh, dear.
A couple points. Anybody can tell anyone to knock anything off, and anyone
can choose to act on it, or to ignore it. None of these are particular
accomplishments.
More importantly, if you choose not to act on the right advice, or choose
to act on the wrong advice, your actions very quickly become irrelevant,
except, perhaps to Mammalina's Harem. If you like being a mime at the opera,
go ahead, but don't then complain that you aren't being listened to (1).
Anthony "AKA Jerry and the PigWhingers" McCafferty
(1) I suspect I am now speaking from experience, based on the amount of
replies I get.
JG
> Deborah, Stevenson, stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu wrote:
> >
> > Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> writes:
> >
> > >I shouldn't have said "apple pie"; I didn't really mean that. I object
> > >more to the constant refrain that America is "the world's greatest
> > >Democracy". I mean... it just so *isn't*.
> >
> > Remember when you said you'd knock it off? This would be not knocking it
> > off.
>
> I know. I was going to knock it off, but then Rick Tyler's follow-up
> to young Meredith's enthusiastic-but-not-very-forceful rejoinder
> irritated me so much that I felt compelled to assert myself
> (slightly) further. Perhaps *Rick* thought that Mezza's
> youthful enthusiasm carried some punch, but as an alt.flame
> veteran with many years' experience, I can assure you she's
> no Barbara Abernathy.
This place, irritating? Nah.
> NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
> trust me...
Oh goody, a pile-up. Can I watch?
> > I'm operating on the perhaps naive assumption that you aren't
> > deliberately, as Len puts it, shitting in the punchbowl.
>
> Not deliberately, no.
>
> (But I am about to knock it off now, anyway. Unless somebody
> else starts it up again).
>
> Kerro
This reminds me of a story that you may have already heard. There was
this young American soldier who boarded a train in England on his way
back from a grueling training session somewhere in Europe. Our friend
was exhausted and was anxious to sit. He walked from one end of the
train to the other. There was no empty seat. But he noticed a row of
three seats occupied by an elderly English lady, her dog and an
Englishman. The American soldier approached the lady and asked
whether she would move the dog to the floor and give him that seat.
The lady was furious. She said that she always knew how rude the
Americans were, but this was indeed the limit. The soldier took
another round of the train and came back. He suggested even more
politely this time that the lady could easily accommodate the dog in
her lap. This provoked her to say even more uncomplimentary things
about Americans.
The soldier walked away and tried to find some place to rest his tired
frame. Having failed to find a place, he came back and made what he
thought was a most reasonable offer. He said that he would keep the
dog in his own lap if he could sit on the seat. The lady said that
even among Americans she had not seen such arrogance and stupidity.
The young man could not take it anymore. He grabbed the dog, threw it
out of the train and sat down. The lady was too shocked to say a
word. But the Englishman, who was watching the entire episode, spoke
for the first time. "You Americans are indeed strange people", he
said, "you drive on the wrong side of the road, you use the wrong
spelling for English words, and look at what you have done. You have
thrown the wrong bitch out of the train!"
Jer "all aboard" ry
Mitch Barrie
# "You Americans are indeed strange people", he
# said, "you drive on the wrong side of the road, you use the wrong
# spelling for English words, and look at what you have done. You have
# thrown the wrong bitch out of the train!"
I love the English.
Mitch "usually" Barrie
Ed Kaulakis
> Jer "all aboard" ry
From time to time I empty my killfile to see if anything has changed. It
never has, so I fill it up again.
Ed "you think the punch smells funny, try some knuckles" Kaulakis
Lon Stowell
Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
>
>I know. I was going to knock it off, but then Rick Tyler's follow-up to
>young Meredith's enthusiastic-but-not-very-forceful rejoinder
>irritated me so much that I felt compelled to assert myself
>(slightly) further. Perhaps *Rick* thought that Mezza's
>youthful enthusiasm carried some punch, but as an alt.flame
>veteran with many years' experience, I can assure you she's
> no Barbara Abernathy.
Why not just post an URL to a gif of you pissing as far
as you can, then Rick can post his, and get it over with...
>
>NOBODY tells me to knock anything off. I *am* a flame-stud;
>trust me...
There is a cure for testosterone poisoning. Intelligence.
--
I'm right. Period. Anyone who believes different is retarded.
JamiJo explains the standards of evidence to the unwashed.
Karen J. Cravens
news:3CA3E54B...@NOSPAM.mira.net:
> (But I am about to knock it off now, anyway. Unless somebody
> else starts it up again).
It doesn't matter to me either way. At least, not for the next 100 days.
--
Karen J. Cravens
Joseph M. Shair
or she knows opine:
<hack/>
> Crashj 'meeowre' Johnson
>
Oh Baal, not another 'girly color name'!
ObMetric/SIQuestions: What does the prefix 'epi' represent?
Why does it seem to be used only in reference to mass, never
volume (epilitre?), distance (epimetre?), etc.?
Joe "Is 'meeowre' spellde 'meeower' in the States?" Shair
--
Remove invisible fnord words to reply.
Psychiatry enables us to correct our faults by confessing
our parents' shortcomings. -- Laurence J. Peter
Len Berlind
>Why does it seem to be used only in reference to mass, never
>volume (epilitre?), distance (epimetre?), etc.?
Epicenter? Epidermis? Episode? Epinephrin?
L"Epibirthday?"B
Chris Clarke
Charles Wm. Dimmick
> ObMetric/SIQuestions: What does the prefix 'epi' represent?
> Why does it seem to be used only in reference to mass, never
> volume (epilitre?), distance (epimetre?), etc.?
On top of, or on the surface of, thus:
epicontinental, epidermal, epiphyte.
[This is an epinome]
Charles Wm. Dimmick
--
"And some rin up hill and down dale, knapping the
chucky stanes to pieces wi' hammers, like sae mony
road-makers run daft -- they say it is to see how
the warld was made!"
Rick Tyler
Stowell) wrote:
>In article <3CA3E54B...@NOSPAM.mira.net>,
>Kerro <ke...@NOSPAM.mira.net> wrote:
>>
>>I know. I was going to knock it off, but then Rick Tyler's follow-up to
<snip>
>
> Why not just post an URL to a gif of you pissing as far
> as you can, then Rick can post his, and get it over with...
Hey! I did one (*1*) post congratulating Meredith on a snappy line,
and now I'm being lumped in as a flame-cascader.
You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
-- Rick "I'm so sorry you newbies had to read that" Tyler
"I don't give two shits what country it's about: it's political. Now
knock it the fuck off." -- Meredith Robbins clarifies the BoP in AFU
Deborah Stevenson,,,
>You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
Interesting Easter celebrations you've got there.
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Rick Tyler
>Deborah Stevenson <stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Rick Tyler <rht...@attbi.com> writes:
>> >You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
>> Interesting Easter celebrations you've got there.
>
>Hey, Rick lives within spitting distance (L) of Twin Peaks.
>
Practically. It's about 20 minutes from here.
>Alice "mmm, cherry pie" Faber
"Can't stand Twin Peaks,
Wish they'd lynch those donut-eatin' freaks." - Al Yankovic
-- Rick "I killed Laura Palmer" Tyler
__________________________________________________________________
"Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the
depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian
Chris Clarke
Rick Tyler <rht...@attbi.com> wrote:
> You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
Rabbit.
alice faber
>In article <g79hau0do8khgrgl3...@4ax.com>,
> Rick Tyler <rht...@attbi.com> wrote:
>> You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
>Rabbit.
Further?
Alice "or maybe not" Faber
Chris Clarke
afa...@panix.com (alice faber) wrote:
Only if it's pissing metaphorically.
alice faber
>In article <a8bept$mtd$1...@panix1.panix.com>,
> afa...@panix.com (alice faber) wrote:
>> In <cclarke-069E7D...@netnews.attbi.com> Chris Clarke
>> <ccl...@faultline.org> writes:
>>
>> >In article <g79hau0do8khgrgl3...@4ax.com>,
>> > Rick Tyler <rht...@attbi.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
>>
>> >Rabbit.
>>
>> Further?
>Only if it's pissing metaphorically.
Only if you're taking the piss.
Alice "so to speak" Faber
Drew Lawson
Furrier.
Drew "ooo, bunny fur" Lawson
--
|Drew Lawson | If you're not part of the solution |
|dr...@furrfu.com | you're part of the precipitate. |
|http://www.furrfu.com/ | |
Lon Stowell
Chris Clarke <ccl...@faultline.org> wrote:
>In article <g79hau0do8khgrgl3...@4ax.com>,
> Rick Tyler <rht...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>> You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
>
>Rabbit.
I am *not* a fucking rabbit.
Lon Stowell
Lon Stowell
Chris Clarke <ccl...@faultline.org> wrote:
>In article <a8bept$mtd$1...@panix1.panix.com>,
> afa...@panix.com (alice faber) wrote:
>
>> In <cclarke-069E7D...@netnews.attbi.com> Chris Clarke
>> <ccl...@faultline.org> writes:
>>
>> >In article <g79hau0do8khgrgl3...@4ax.com>,
>> > Rick Tyler <rht...@attbi.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> You're a meany-head, Lon, and my *bunny* can piss farther than you.
>>
>> >Rabbit.
>>
>> Further?
>
>Only if it's pissing metaphorically.
>