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Fair Pickings

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:14:23 PM2/14/02
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Are there 35mm prints of this picture around? Do they have the soundtrack?
I noticed that TCM had scheduled it a couple of times in the past, then
never showed it and thought maybe it was a score problem. Anyway, I'd like
to see if a print can be obtained if possible so we can show it hear (next
year) as part of our theatre's 75 anniversary. (LILAC TIME opened the place
in 1928.)

ChaneyFan

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Feb 15, 2002, 12:21:17 PM2/15/02
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>>>Are there 35mm prints of this picture around?

That's an excellent question I don't know the answer to. I show both Eastman
House and MOMA with prints, but have some doubts that either is in 35mm. I
have never seen a 35 of this and never heard of one being shown, though the 8mm
prints are so stunning that you assume that UA had really good material to work
from.
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Fair Pickings

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Feb 15, 2002, 2:51:43 PM2/15/02
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in article 20020215122117...@mb-me.aol.com, ChaneyFan at
chan...@aol.com wrote on 2/15/02 12:21 PM:


Tried the Eastman House and they say they don't have it in 35mm. It was
shown here in 1985 in a 16mm. silent print, but I don't even know where THAT
came from. What's MOMA like to deal with regarding the leasing of films?

David Pierce

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Feb 16, 2002, 5:56:11 PM2/16/02
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I'm pretty sure that the Library of Congress
has pre-print in 35mm for LILAC TIME. I'm
not sure if they have a viewing copy.

David Pierce


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jessica rosner

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Feb 18, 2002, 8:55:07 PM2/18/02
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I have checked on this with the internet impaired Colleen Moore EXPERT Joe
Yranski and he says that MOMA did have Ms. Moore's PERSONAL 35mm print. He saw
the film twice at MOMA in 35mm , once in the mid seventies at private screening
and once shortly after her death. He ASSUMES that they had preserved it on
safety but is
not 100% that one or both screenings may have been nitrate. The fact that MOMA
screened a bad 16mm last year does not mean much as they usually just pull what
ever is around without bothering to get the best print. Shortly before the
Lilac Time screening
I went to see WILD & WOOLY which as I have noted was the one of the worst
prints
of ANY film I have ever seen and again they had FAIRBANK'S own material on this
( not to mention it is an EASY film to get at least a good 16mm on)

Jessica

Fair Pickings

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Feb 18, 2002, 11:12:43 PM2/18/02
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in article 3C71B07A...@pop.mindspring.com, jessica rosner at
lilyc...@pop.mindspring.com wrote on 2/18/02 8:55 PM:

Thanks for the info! Do you know if either Miss Moore's 35mm print or the
bad 16mm they showed last year had the soundtrack?

Bob Birchard

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Feb 19, 2002, 9:54:10 AM2/19/02
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The only prints I have ever seen on "Lilac Time" are 16mm silent with flash
main titles and full length inter-titles. This certainly does not mean there isn't
better material out there, but it does suggest that better material is not in
general circulation.

Several years ago I found about 100' of 16mm silent color material on "Lilac
Time." It was a dupe of the aerial fight with tints and hand-colored footage of
flashing machine guns, etc. I don't know where this material came from. I gave the
material to a pair of collectors in the midwest who had a great fondness for Colleen
Moore.

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Bob Birchard
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jessica rosner

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Feb 19, 2002, 9:54:55 PM2/19/02
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Joe said the print was silent and the score would have been on discs he does not
know if it survives. MOMA's bad 16mm featured a so-s0 organ score by a woman whose
name I can not remember but I am told she did a number of scores for the
circulating prints
( NO NOT ROSA RIO)

Jessica

Rodney Sauer

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Feb 25, 2002, 10:54:44 AM2/25/02
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jessica rosner wrote:

> Joe said the print was silent and the score would have been on discs he does not
> know if it survives. MOMA's bad 16mm featured a so-s0 organ score by a woman whose
> name I can not remember but I am told she did a number of scores for the
> circulating prints
> ( NO NOT ROSA RIO)

The original title song (Jeannine, I Dream of Lilac Time) is around, but that, of
course, does not a score make.

--Rodney

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