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Anon

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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This message was posted anonymously:

"I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how
long I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was
locked up in a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't
allowed to contact anyone."

Robert Schenk Minton


roxthefox

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:28:39 -0500 (EST), "Anon" <anon...@cotse.com>
wrote:

And we need this information for_______. (Please fill in the blank)

See Bob has a bit of reality of what Lisa experienced. Now please
make your point.

roxy
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thud_n_...@my-deja.com

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In article <1999121705...@cotse.com>,

"Anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> This message was posted anonymously:
>
> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how
> long I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was
> locked up in a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't
> allowed to contact anyone."
>
> Robert Schenk Minton
>
>
Hi, Anon! (By the way, love your handle!)

Wonderful quote -- now, what was the purpose of posting it? And how
about a citation for where and when this supposed quote occurred?

Inquiring minds want to know! (And I offer my apologies to the National
Enquirer for possible dilution of a trademarked phrase.)


-- Thud-n-Blunder

"Strike while the irony is hot!" -- The Freethinker


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Steve Zadarnowski

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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"Anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:

>Robert Schenk Minton
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So who's this then?

S

sand...@my-deja.com

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Dec 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/18/99
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In article <1999121705...@cotse.com>,
"Anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> This message was posted anonymously:
>
> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how
> long I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was
> locked up in a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't
> allowed to contact anyone."
>
> Robert Schenk Minton
>

Is this supposed to be the same person as Bob Minton?

When did he say this? At what occasion?

Was it said in reference to his recent police arrest?

Sandy

bar...@trial.freedom.net

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No, these are his comments after his
first night with Stacy.


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Captain Nerd

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> Sandy

Ah, good, Dorothy, you've gotten your valences right
here! Not like the other message, where you replied
to Roxy's reply to Dorothy, and you even signed off
as "Dorothy"! Don't believe me, check Message-ID
<83eu1r$prf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, before "someone" cancels
it!

Cap.


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Captain Nerd

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In article <s5m06p...@corp.supernews.com>, bar...@trial.freedom.net
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You hate Minton, don't you? You wish he'd just die, and leave
you alone, to be abused by your "church," don't you? Wouldn't
you like to see him "made dead" so your church could go on
hurting, and cheating, and killing people? Doesn't his very
presence in the world invalidate all of your "church's" sacred
doctrine, since he isn't going away?

Cap.

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roxthefox

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On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 03:00:37 GMT, sand...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <1999121705...@cotse.com>,
> "Anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>> This message was posted anonymously:
>>
>> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how
>> long I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was
>> locked up in a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't
>> allowed to contact anyone."
>>
>> Robert Schenk Minton
>>
>
>Is this supposed to be the same person as Bob Minton?
>
>When did he say this? At what occasion?
>
>Was it said in reference to his recent police arrest?
>
>Sandy

Sandothy, or is it Dorothandy?

Are you really as stupid as you sound?

roxy


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Beverly Rice

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sand...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Is this supposed to be the same person as Bob Minton?
> When did he say this? At what occasion?
> Was it said in reference to his recent police arrest?

You wrote it, so why do you ask?

Co$, how to develop multiple personality disorder by surrendering
your wallet and your will to think.

Beverly

Enzo Piccone

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Anon

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This message was posted anonymously:

"I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
anyone."

These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
him for life.


Captain Nerd

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In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
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Oh, yeah? Says who?


Cap.
(Oh, right, I forgot, you're an anonymous coward afraid to
stand behind his words, so you won't answer.)

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Beverly Rice

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Anon wrote:

> This message was posted anonymously:
> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
> anyone."

> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
> him for life.

Thank you for clarifying the purpose of the Introspection
Rundown.

It is clearly to "mark" the Co$ member for life.

Well, Lisa McPherson sure ended up marked . . . for death.

Now, let's see, Bob's experience, with the soul of a fighter
and survivor, ended up making him a very regged individual,
who not only survived, but flourished and has the courage to
go face to face and toe to toe with the Co$.

The IR, on the other hand, with Co$ adherents, ends up making
their soul compliant and obedient to order, not individuals
who flourish on their own, but need to remain even more so
in the clutches of the Co$ "tech", and ~not~ able to go face
to face and toe to toe, but to hide behind closed doors and
blanked out windows.

Hmmmm. Quite interesting, thank you for the data, we here can
quite easily make a distinction in the reality of your game,
while you sit back and delude yourself that you are being
useful.

Ooops, sorry, you ~are~ useful, in the reverse way of your
intention, but that is SP power again riding over puny Co$
abilities.

ARC, ARC, ARC, ARC, and more ARC

Beverly

Dave Bird

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>This message was posted anonymously:
>
>
>
>"I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how
>long I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was
>locked up in a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't
>allowed to contact anyone."
>
> Robert Schenk Minton


Ohmigod -- HE HAS A GERMAN MIDDLENAME! IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY!!
RUN FOR THE HILLS !!!


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Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:

> In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
> <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:

>> This message was posted anonymously:
>>
>> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
>> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
>> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
>> anyone."
>>

>> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
>> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
>> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
>> him for life.

> Oh, yeah? Says who?

Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson, who
(along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and worse, I
think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.

Reforming an organization which abuses people the way scn does is as
worthy a cause as the best of them.

Keith Henson

Captain Nerd

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In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, Keith Henson
<hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:

> Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
> > <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>
> >> This message was posted anonymously:
> >>
> >> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
> >> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
> >> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
> >> anyone."
> >>
> >> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
> >> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
> >> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
> >> him for life.
>
> > Oh, yeah? Says who?
>
> Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
> wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson, who
> (along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and worse, I
> think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.

I have no knowledge of Bob Minton's biography, but since I hadn't
seen any previous postings by Bob regarding this incident, I
assumed it was fabricated by the scientos, or possibly referring
to another Robert Minton. I was (snidely, granted) asking for
the anonyclam to prove this quote was accurate, and actually
came from the same Robert Minton, founder of the LMT.

If Minton did go through this, then it's understandable why he
would have a special feeling towards what happend to Lisa
McPherson. I also did not intend to minimize his suffering,
had it occurred, and if he took it that way, I apologize.

Cap.


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ChildOfGod

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In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com says...
>
>Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly
>shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
>feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.
>
>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females. While one may
>say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
>mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the
>days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
>with all females under his roof. He simply thinks he is different
>from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
>because he is the undisputed king. His word is the law.
>
>Dorothy

You are sadly mistaken about Bob Minton, Dorothy.

And even sadder is that you are spreading ill will towards Bob.

I feel sorry for you. Spreading lies is evil, Dorothy.

Remember: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.


Child


doroth...@my-deja.com

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In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:
> Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
> > <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>
> >> This message was posted anonymously:
> >>
> >> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
> >> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
> >> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
> >> anyone."
> >>
> >> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
> >> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
> >> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
> >> him for life.
>
> > Oh, yeah? Says who?
>
> Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
> wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson,
who

Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly


shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.

Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females. While one may
say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the
days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
with all females under his roof. He simply thinks he is different
from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
because he is the undisputed king. His word is the law.

Dorothy

> (along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and


worse, I
> think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.
>

> Reforming an organization which abuses people the way scn does is as
> worthy a cause as the best of them.
>
> Keith Henson
>

Gerry Armstrong

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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:17:49 GMT, doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
>> > <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> This message was posted anonymously:
>> >>
>> >> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
>> >> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
>> >> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
>> >> anyone."
>> >>
>> >> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
>> >> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
>> >> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
>> >> him for life.
>>
>> > Oh, yeah? Says who?
>>
>> Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
>> wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson,
>who
>
>Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly
>shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
>feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.
>
>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.

You are being really nasty, whoever you are, Dorothy, Sandy, DM.

Remember these words of your erstwhile cult leader, Lafayette Ronald
Hubbard: " It doesn't give me displeasure to hear of a virgin being
raped. The lot of women is to be fornicated.

Why don't you, a claimed woman, Dorothy, tell your cult to stick it in
its orifice. Why do you do the dirty work for the women hating
Hubbard?

> While one may
>say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
>mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the
>days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
>with all females under his roof. He simply thinks he is different
>from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
>because he is the undisputed king. His word is the law.

Funny isn't it. Your cult leader wrote, "Men are my slaves," yet you
take umbrage at some mere humanoid who practices Hubbard's tech. Or
who actually doesn't practice Hubbard tech, but you attack him by
accusing him of practicing Hubbard tech. Hubbard was a very
psychologically sick man. But you know that don't you D[M]orothy?

And now I'm going to read this document that is so important to you.
I'll bet it's a document DM paid a passel of PIs a pisspot of G-notes
to come up with. And guess what? It falls on deaf ears. And you,
Dorothy, are faced with the thankless task of somehow getting the good
folks at a.r.s. to listen. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Good luck.

>
>Dorothy

Yeah, sure, D[orothy]M in drag.

>
>> (along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and
>worse, I
>> think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.
>>
>> Reforming an organization which abuses people the way scn does is as
>> worthy a cause as the best of them.

Right on, Keith.

(c) Gerry Armstrong

Steve A

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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:28:39 -0500 (EST), "Anon" <anon...@cotse.com>
wrote:

> This message was posted anonymously:
>
>
>
> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how
> long I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was
> locked up in a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't
> allowed to contact anyone."
>

> Robert Schenk Minton

Hmm. So he'd be quite well qualified to comment on how Lisa McPherson
might have felt after seventeen days of enforced isolation, then.

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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:17:49 GMT, doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
>>

>> > In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"


>> > <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> This message was posted anonymously:
>> >>
>> >> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
>> >> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
>> >> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
>> >> anyone."
>> >>

>> >> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
>> >> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
>> >> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
>> >> him for life.
>>
>> > Oh, yeah? Says who?
>>
>> Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
>> wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson,
>who
>
>Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh.

I doubt that anything could cause you to laugh Dorothandy.

Your answer clearly
>shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
>feeling as sympathy.

Another thing that is striking here is your compassion, conspicuous by
it's absence.

Let me try to explain it to you.

Right, you mindless robot, how can you explain anything about human
behavior let alone feelings to anyone?

>
>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.

Oh shit, are you OT? Is that how it is that you can read minds. I AM
impressed Dorothandy.


While one may
>say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
>mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the
>days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
>with all females under his roof. He simply thinks he is different
>from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
>because he is the undisputed king. His word is the law.

More mind reading. Funny how you think that obeying rules is
important for Bob Minton and matters not at all for your stinking
church. Make up your mind. You can not have it all to suit yourself.

I personally do not condone some of the things that Bob has done but,
I do not for one moment question his motives regarding Lisa. It may
be hard for you to realize that some people do care about abuse and
fraud. You are a criminal. If you yourself do not overtly commit
crimes, you certainly are guilty of being an accessory to the criminal
cult of $cientology.

I hope some day that you get to see the introspection run down first
hand and get rescued by Bob Minton. Maybe that will cure you of your
self righteousness.

roxthefox
SP3


>
>Dorothy


>
>> (along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and
>worse, I
>> think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.
>>
>> Reforming an organization which abuses people the way scn does is as
>> worthy a cause as the best of them.
>>

>> Keith Henson
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

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Mike O'Connor

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In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.

Dorothy, Sandy, you know what is in Minton's mind. Very impressive, Dorothy,
Sandy. You are truly a psych, Dorothy, Sandy.

Now that you've told us what is in Minton's mind, Dorothy, Sandy, tell us
what is in Dennis Erlich's mind, Dorothy, Sandy. Tell us what you think is
in Dennis Erlich's mind. Cat got your tounge? Dorothy? Sandy?

--
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<http://www.leptonicsystems.com>

Captain Nerd

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In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com
wrote:

> In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,


> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
> > > <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> This message was posted anonymously:
> > >>
> > >> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
> > >> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
> > >> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
> > >> anyone."
> > >>
> > >> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
> > >> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
> > >> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
> > >> him for life.
> >
> > > Oh, yeah? Says who?
> >
> > Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
> > wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson,
> who
>

> Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly


> shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a

> feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.

Sure, "Sandy," tell us all your wisdom. By the way, who are
you?


> Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.

Ya wanna try that again, with a little punctuation?

> While one may
> say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
> mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the
> days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
> with all females under his roof.

Well. And did your "Sandy" valence exteriorize and look into
Minton's mind? Or maybe your Body Thetans go together with
his in a gossip circle?


> He simply thinks he is different
> from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
> because he is the undisputed king.

Wow, more creative amateur psychotherapy. Now, how much do you
really hate Minton?


> His word is the law.
>

> Dorothy

Well, if that was the case, why did he honor the TRO that
your feeble, brittle fellow cultist got? And why did you
and your "church" feel that you had the right to spraypaint
graffiti on the sidewalks in Clearwater? Who ignored the
law about defacing public property?

Cap.


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Beverly Rice

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doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh.

But, Dorothy, poor little fountain of a poisoned heart . . .
laughter would do you some good.

Your mind needs a good vomit, it is full of bitter acid.

A good laugh might be the mental emetic you need.

Here . . .

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Not only is it painless, why . . . it even feels ~good~!!

ARC your way,

Beverly

AndroidCat

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<doroth...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1999121907...@cotse.com>, "Anon"
> > > <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> This message was posted anonymously:
> > >>
> > >> "I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
> > >> I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
> > >> a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
> > >> anyone."
> > >>
> > >> These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
> > >> incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
> > >> It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
> > >> him for life.
> >
> > > Oh, yeah? Says who?
> >
> > Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
> > wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson,
> who
>
> Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly
> shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
> feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.
>
> Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females. While one may

> say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
> mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the
> days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
> with all females under his roof. He simply thinks he is different

> from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
> because he is the undisputed king. His word is the law.

That sounds more like a certain pulp-writer who had a habit of leaving
previous wives and kids to pick up a new chickie. (Sometimes forgetting to
divorce first.)

I think the overt speaks very loudly.

Ron of that ilk.


Xenu Fredric Xenu L. Xenu Rice Xenu

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ChildOfGod wrote:

> In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com says...


> >Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly
> >shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
> >feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.

> >Dorothy
>
> You are sadly mistaken about Bob Minton, Dorothy.
> And even sadder is that you are spreading ill will towards Bob.
> I feel sorry for you. Spreading lies is evil, Dorothy.
> Remember: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
> Child

His name isn't Dorothy. Send me an e-mail and I'll let you know who he is.

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Rob Clark

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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 02:46:59 -0500 (EST), "Anon" <anon...@cotse.com>
wrote:

>This message was posted anonymously:

>"I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long
>I'd have to stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in
>a padded cell like an animal. I wasn't allowed to contact
>anyone."

>These were the words of Robert Minton when he was
>incarcerated in a private mental institution in Tennessee.
>It happened at the age of 16 and is what probably marked
>him for life.

Since you are a representative of the cult of Scientology, do you
realize that by posting repugnant messages like this, you reveal
Scientology as a sick cult of thieves who gladly rip off people's
medical records?

Or do you think nobody notices this? It is, of course, always
possible that being a Scientologist, you are just a flat liar. So,
which are you? A liar, or a thief?

rob

Rob Clark

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:17:49 GMT, doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom6.netcom.com> wrote:

>Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer clearly

Fuck off, hag.

>shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford such a
>feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.

>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females. While one may


>say that Robert Minton ruined his own family many times over, in his
>mind he did not do so: he considers himself to still be living in the

"It causes me no distress to hear of a virgin being raped. It is the
lot of women to be fornicated." L. Ron Hubbard's Affirmations

You mean like that, you ignorant slut?

Do you disagree with Source?

>days when it was permitted for a man to have his way with his chattel,
>with all females under his roof. He simply thinks he is different
>from ordinary men and does not have to obey ordinary rules and laws
>because he is the undisputed king. His word is the law.

You really seem to be drooling over this idea, don't you?

Don't worry, your sick fantasies are noted and filed.

rob

Keith Henson

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, Keith Henson

snip-re Minton quote.

>> > Oh, yeah? Says who?
>>
>> Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If you
>> wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa McPherson, who

>> (along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and worse, I
>> think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.

> I have no knowledge of Bob Minton's biography, but since I hadn't


> seen any previous postings by Bob regarding this incident, I
> assumed it was fabricated by the scientos, or possibly referring
> to another Robert Minton. I was (snidely, granted) asking for
> the anonyclam to prove this quote was accurate, and actually
> came from the same Robert Minton, founder of the LMT.

> If Minton did go through this, then it's understandable why he
> would have a special feeling towards what happend to Lisa
> McPherson. I also did not intend to minimize his suffering,
> had it occurred, and if he took it that way, I apologize.

Oh, I am sure it did not bother Bob. But isn't it *amazing* how the
clams will post stuff without having the slightest idea of how they are
shooting themselves in the foot! <grin>

Keith Henson

Keith Henson

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Mike O'Connor <mi...@leptonicsystems.com> wrote:

> In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

>>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.

> Dorothy, Sandy, you know what is in Minton's mind. Very impressive, Dorothy,

> Sandy. You are truly a psych, Dorothy, Sandy.

I really wonder if "dorothy" has any idea of how *stupid* this looks?

Men, no matter *how* randy seldom have the hots for women not only dead,
but cremated. So Bob's interest in her sad case has to stem from more
noble motives. Keith Hensosn


ze...@my-deja.com

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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In article <83n3ap$dir$2...@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,

Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom3.netcom.com> wrote:
> Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> > In article <83jdap$arj$3...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, Keith Henson
>

"I felt terribly abandoned there. I had no idea how long I'd have to


stay or why I was put there. I was locked up in a padded cell like an
animal. I wasn't allowed to contact anyone."

> >> > Oh, yeah? Says who?

Robert Minton.

> >> Without having asked him, I think Bob would agree with this. If
you
> >> wonder how a person can have such deep sympathy for Lisa
McPherson, who

That Minton had or has sympathy for Lisa is total (censored)(pardon my
French). He never knew her, had never met her. He never had sympathy
for anyone; Dateline showed that very clearly. He bought a house, and
got the girl too. Internet Dial-a-Date is what Hockenberry called it.
That affair was going on while the girl was married - while on national
TV Minton played the happy father lying to all viewers.

> >> (along with a number of others in scn) was treated this way and
worse, I
> >> think you need look no further than the experience Bob had at 16.
>
> > I have no knowledge of Bob Minton's biography, but since I hadn't
> > seen any previous postings by Bob regarding this incident, I
> > assumed it was fabricated by the scientos, or possibly referring
> > to another Robert Minton. I was (snidely, granted) asking for
> > the anonyclam to prove this quote was accurate, and actually
> > came from the same Robert Minton, founder of the LMT.
>
> > If Minton did go through this, then it's understandable why he
> > would have a special feeling towards what happend to Lisa
> > McPherson. I also did not intend to minimize his suffering,
> > had it occurred, and if he took it that way, I apologize.
>
> Oh, I am sure it did not bother Bob. But isn't it *amazing* how the
> clams will post stuff without having the slightest idea of how they
are
> shooting themselves in the foot! <grin>

It was Bob Minton who did the shooting. Dateline reported about this.
Minton could not assure Hockenberry that he is not a hot-head on the
edge. Minton should be given help by someone he trusts.

Roland

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I can feel sympathy for Lisa McPherson and yet I never met her.

I feel sympathy for anyone trapped in a cult who wants to leave but are
stopped from doing so. Especially when they are stopped from doing so to
the point of being restrained until they die.

Roland

Mike O'Connor

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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In article <83ooe2$a4d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

>That Minton had or has sympathy for Lisa is total (censored)(pardon my
>French).

Yet another brand new account here to send an attack message or two. Don't
you see you look like a fool? Do you think you are convincing people that
there are new people coming here to make these attacks when it is just you
again, hiding under yet another false front. Ever think your cult has taken
you for a chump?

Beverly Rice

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ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

> That Minton had or has sympathy for Lisa is total (censored)(pardon my
> French).

If you are trying to say "Bullshit" or "Lie" . . . the word for
that is "Hubbard".

> He never knew her, had never met her. He never had sympathy
> for anyone;

You are a typical Co$ fool if you think ~your~ interpretation of
another person's mind, heart or soul means anything to anyone
reading here.

But it is a nice try.

Now, let's turn you ~little~ game around on you.

All of the "psych victims" the Hubbardists of the Co$ "never knew,
never met" therefore mean nothing to the Hubbardists.

They never had sympathy for anyone.

When you are just a little pawn, stay out of the big game.

You have not yet learned, that while ~clear~ may mean something
to the Co$ and it's mindless followers, on the Internet where
people are informed, it simply means ~transparent~.

> Dateline showed that very clearly. He bought a house, and
> got the girl too. Internet Dial-a-Date is what Hockenberry called it.

Is getting the girl good or bad?

Hubbard "got the girl", also.

Is that good or bad.

Is it only good when Hubbard does it, and bad when a Co$ appointed
enemy does it?

Does Co$ and it's mindless followers set a double standard?

How about Hubbard "getting the girl"?

He didn't buy a house for her.

Actually, Hubbard never did anything much for any of his women.

Let's see . . . Hubbard "getting the girl" . . . his ploy was play
Sex Magic games with her man, take her man for a whole heap of
money (~what a friend~ LRH is!!), and then run off with the mans
"girl" . . . .

> That affair was going on while the girl was married - while on national
> TV Minton played the happy father lying to all viewers.

Oh, back to the dead bloated TOAD . . . oops, I mean, Hubbard.

Wait, wait, there's more . . . all the time conveneintly omitting
from his warped little mind that he already was married and had a
wife, making him AN ADULTERER.

If adultery is bad, is it still bad even when Hubbard does it?

Was it bad that Hubbard was AN ADULTERER?

Guess what else . . . yes, there's even ~still~ more.

Then . . you know what that little dickens, Hubbard did?

He also conveniently let it slip from his mind that HE WAS STILL
MARRIED, and he went and married "the girl he got", without a
second thought of his FIRST WIFE and his CHILDREN!!

Hahahaha!!

Now, is that a knee slapper or what, that Hubbard . . . What a
guy!!!

Yes, that is the amount of ~love~ that Hubbard had for his poor
little first wife and his poor little children, who he abandoned
while he was out having fun.

Now, is that a good example?

Is Hubbard "Da Man!!"?

ze...@my-deja.com

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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In article <83n3mm$dir$3...@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,

I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that. But
that's beside the point here.

The point is that he considers all women to be "just females". Hell, he
comes across as one of those machos who probably thinks that all women
are alike but that they have different faces so he can tell them apart.

And just look for yourself how many of them he paid off so he can
engage in what would likely be labelled sexual harrassment in any other
forum.

Patrick L. Humphrey

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ze...@my-deja.com writes:

>In article <83n3mm$dir$3...@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom3.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Mike O'Connor <mi...@leptonicsystems.com> wrote:
>>>In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com wrote:

>>>>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.

>>>Dorothy, Sandy, you know what is in Minton's mind. Very impressive, Dorothy,
>>>Sandy. You are truly a psych, Dorothy, Sandy.

>>I really wonder if "dorothy" has any idea of how *stupid* this looks?

>>Men, no matter *how* randy seldom have the hots for women not only dead,
>>but cremated. So Bob's interest in her sad case has to stem from more
>>noble motives. Keith Hensosn

>I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
>he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that. But
>that's beside the point here.

Sure it is, OSA thug...so just who _did_ write those checks on the account of
a woman who'd been dead for days -- from YOUR tech? Keep on projecting, and
then you can whine when your own moronic words come back to bite your
fraudulent "church" in its collective butt at the trial.

>The point is that he considers all women to be "just females". Hell, he
>comes across as one of those machos who probably thinks that all women
>are alike but that they have different faces so he can tell them apart.

Sorry, clam, but you're definitely no mind-reader. No OTs here.

>And just look for yourself how many of them he paid off so he can
>engage in what would likely be labelled sexual harrassment in any other
>forum.

Just look at the just plain stupid attempts to DA critics of Hubbard's cult of
criminals. Keep pulling it in, sockpuppet -- attitudes like yours are what
make the Houston mission such a hotbed of non-activity these days.

What _will_ you do when those evil psychs are still alive and well a week from
Saturday, I wonder? Postulate them away?

--PLH, having fun giving OSA numbnuts a taste of their own medicine

Keith Henson

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Organization:

ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

snip

> I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
> he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that.

You *sure* this posting has uplines approval? If you make the claim that
Bob is in this because he thinks he can make lots of money and you can
back up the claim with (for example) spread sheets, don't you worry that a
lot of people will follow in his footsteps?

Keith Henson

John Dorsay

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sock-...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
> he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that. But
> that's beside the point here.

Why don't you tell us about your own motives, sock-puppet? I'm sure
that would be much more entertaining than this crap.

--
Regards, John
Obsessed Anti Bernie Terrorist and member of Bernie's Ars Bigot Club
Details at http://www.bernie.us-inc.com/clams.htm

Tommy

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ze...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> In article <83n3mm$dir$3...@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom3.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Mike O'Connor <mi...@leptonicsystems.com> wrote:
> > > In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com
> wrote:
> >
> > >>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.
> >
> > > Dorothy, Sandy, you know what is in Minton's mind. Very impressive,
> Dorothy,
> > > Sandy. You are truly a psych, Dorothy, Sandy.
> >
> > I really wonder if "dorothy" has any idea of how *stupid* this looks?
> >
> > Men, no matter *how* randy seldom have the hots for women not only
> dead,
> > but cremated. So Bob's interest in her sad case has to stem from
> more
> > noble motives. Keith Hensosn
>
> I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
> he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that. But


Is *that* what they told you?? Oh dearie dear.....hehehehehe...ah..
(wiping eyes)
Guys, on the remote chance that this one is something more than a
post-and-run sock puppet account, don't play with this one too hard -
OK? You guys have broken the last four rubber squeek-toys that OSA has
unleashed on the NG.

I'm sorry for laughing at you,"zebec" (if that is your *real* name), but
I was once so frightened of you and your buddies. But you can't act so
silly and frighten anyone. I'm sorry, but we made such a big deal out
of you guys, and for *what*?? I mean - look at you! You have all the
sinister menace of a windup toy!
Ah - he he he he! The key sticks out of your back!
Oh me oh my.....ha ha he he he........ ahhhh.
I'm better now - do go on.


> that's beside the point here.


I doubt you could get the point if someone picked you up and impaled you
on it.

Yours for Issue Authority,
Tommy


--

'I'm drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys.'
Hubbard, 1967 letter to his wife submitted to the court in the
Armstrong
case, authenticity unchallenged by LRH/CoS lawyers

Mike O'Connor

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Dec 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/23/99
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In article <83r7lu$21s$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

>I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
>he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that. But

>that's beside the point here.

The point is your hate for Mr. Minton. Tell us more about how you hate Mr.
Minton. Do you wish he were dead? Would the world be better off without him,
zebec? Is it your own personal hate you are expressing, zebec, or are you
speaking for an organization which has an official, authorized,
signed-off-on, checklisted agenda of hate against Mr. Minton? Is that what
you are disseminating, zebec? The hate of an organization? Which one?

ze...@my-deja.com

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Dec 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/23/99
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In article <mike-48356F.0...@news.optonline.net>,

Mike O'Connor <mi...@leptonicsystems.com> wrote:
> In article <83r7lu$21s$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after
all
> >he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that.
But
> >that's beside the point here.
>
> The point is your hate for Mr. Minton. Tell us more about how you
hate Mr.
> Minton. Do you wish he were dead? Would the world be better off
without him,
> zebec? Is it your own personal hate you are expressing, zebec, or are
you
> speaking for an organization which has an official, authorized,
> signed-off-on, checklisted agenda of hate against Mr. Minton? Is that
what
> you are disseminating, zebec? The hate of an organization? Which one?
(Mike. Stop frothing and wipe the spit off your face - the girls are
giggling about you.)

Minton invested x amount of $s sofar. He expected a certain return.
What he could not have known is the fact that the Church always wins.
That is something he obviously was not told when he was started on this
road.

Furthermore he cannot now admit having chosen the wrong game as he
probably thinks that by doing so he would lose all his self-respect.

This now leaves him in a rather difficult if not to say schizophrenic
position; between a rock and a hard stone one might say. He knows he is
losing. He knows he should withdraw from this altogether. But he can't.

Minton's unstable state of mind was depicted very clearly in the recent
Dateline show.

The future will show the next crazy steps he is going to take. Unless
someone can help him, which is part of the problem as he does not want
to be helped, as he does not trust any help from anyone.

ze...@my-deja.com

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Dec 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/23/99
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In article <83rlf9$om3$2...@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net>,

Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom8.netcom.com> wrote:
> <83r7lu$21s$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
> Organization:
>
> ze...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> snip
>
> > I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after
all
> > he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that.
>
> You *sure* this posting has uplines approval? If you make the claim
that
> Bob is in this because he thinks he can make lots of money and you can
> back up the claim with (for example) spread sheets, don't you worry
that a
> lot of people will follow in his footsteps?

There is a big difference between "thinking to make a lot of money" and
actually making it. Minton continues to spend money. Has not made any
recently. He is depleting his financial resources, and sooner or later
they'll be all dried up.

> Keith Henson

Mike O'Connor

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Dec 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/24/99
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In article <83trei$saj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <mike-48356F.0...@news.optonline.net>,
> Mike O'Connor <mi...@leptonicsystems.com> wrote:

[...]


>> The point is your hate for Mr. Minton. Tell us more about how you hate
>> Mr. Minton. Do you wish he were dead? Would the world be better off
>> without him, zebec? Is it your own personal hate you are expressing,
>> zebec, or are you speaking for an organization which has an official,
>> authorized, signed-off-on, checklisted agenda of hate against Mr.
>> Minton? Is that what you are disseminating, zebec? The hate of an
>> organization? Which one?

>(Mike. Stop frothing and wipe the spit off your face - the girls are
>giggling about you.)
>
>Minton invested x amount of $s sofar. He expected a certain return.
>What he could not have known is the fact that the Church always wins.

[...]

And you hate Mr. Minton, don't you? Tell us more. Explain and explain and
explain why you hate Mr. Minton so much. Post again and again, don't be so
afraid. And tell us, is it your personal hate you are expressing, or that of
an organization?

Kelly Hall

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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:00:31 GMT, ze...@my-deja.com <ze...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>What he could not have known is the fact that the Church always wins.
^^^^
I usually don't post to correct spelling, but this is spelled w-h-i-n-e-s.

You're welcome,
Kelly

Dorothy West

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In article <385E930E...@ScapeGoat.COM>,
FR...@ScapeGoat.COM wrote:

> ChildOfGod wrote:
>
> > In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com
says...

> > >Bob having sympathy for Lisa? Don't make me laugh. Your answer
clearly
> > >shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford
such a
> > >feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.
> > >Dorothy
> >
> > You are sadly mistaken about Bob Minton, Dorothy.
> > And even sadder is that you are spreading ill will towards Bob.
> > I feel sorry for you. Spreading lies is evil, Dorothy.
> > Remember: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
> > Child
>
> His name isn't Dorothy. Send me an e-mail and I'll let you know who
he is.

E-mail sent. Awaiting reply.

Dorothy :)

Gerry Armstrong

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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:23:42 GMT, Dorothy West
<doroth...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>In article <385E930E...@ScapeGoat.COM>,
> FR...@ScapeGoat.COM wrote:
>> ChildOfGod wrote:
>>
>> > In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com
>says...
>> > >Bob having sympathy for Lisa?

Out of the blue, right? Nothing going on, and all of a sudden you dump
out this black PR of Bob.

What was Bob doing?

Have you ever talked to Bob?

But really, isn't it a bit creepy to accuse Bob of not having
sympathy, when sympathy is something you try to strip from
$cientologists in $cientology. Sympathy is attacked by Hubbard as an
extremely aberrated point on your emotional tone scale. $cientologists
are audited on sympathy. How terribly creepy that you attack a wog for
not having the very thing you despise and seek to eliminate in
yourself.

>> Don't make me laugh.

Oh, but we do. Making $cientologists laugh is divine therapy.

>>Your answer
>clearly
>> > >shows that you do not understand the man. He could never afford
>such a
>> > >feeling as sympathy. Let me try to explain it to you.

Oh, please do. I'm all ears. It's Christmas Eve.

>> > >Dorothy
>> >
>> > You are sadly mistaken about Bob Minton, Dorothy.
>> > And even sadder is that you are spreading ill will towards Bob.
>> > I feel sorry for you. Spreading lies is evil, Dorothy.
>> > Remember: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
>> > Child
>>
>> His name isn't Dorothy. Send me an e-mail and I'll let you know who
>he is.
>
>E-mail sent. Awaiting reply.
>
>Dorothy :)

I'll go with the Dorothy handle. Tell us about how L. Ron Hubbard
afforded all those emotional tones such as sympathy.

Merry Christmas.

Peace on earth and good will to all Wogs (R) and $cientologists.

(c) Gerry Armstrong

Steve A

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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Thank you for your valuable efforts in communicating the situation as
it really is within Scientology: we appreciate the fact that you have
to "code" the message somewhat, to avoid censorship by your masters,
and dressing the cult problem up as "Bob's problem" was an excellent
way of getting it past them.

Or are you projecting, zebec?


--
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Mail to this address will be treated as SPAM/UCE and reported accordingly
Steve A, SP4++, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12,
pitiable little Dennie (plD) #1, non-Mintonista.
Banned by Windows 1984 ScienoSitter (2e+isp)
"Where don't they want you to go today?" - http://www.xenu.net

Arnie Lerma <www.lermanet.com>

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[snip]

The dwarf's parrots seem to be running out of
new lies to invent.

But they can always start just quoting Hubbard.

arnie

> Cap.
> (Although I don't want to be sexually harrassed by nachos, the
> cheese might be interesting...)


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>something geeky this way passes" Captain Nerd
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Secrets are the mortar binding
bricks as lies together into prisons for the mind.
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
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Captain Nerd

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In article <83r7lu$21s$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

> In article <83n3mm$dir$3...@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom3.netcom.com> wrote:

> > Mike O'Connor <mi...@leptonicsystems.com> wrote:
> > > In article <83ke5q$9eu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, doroth...@my-deja.com

> wrote:
> >
> > >>Lisa like other women are in Minton's mind only females.
> >
> > > Dorothy, Sandy, you know what is in Minton's mind. Very impressive,
> Dorothy,
> > > Sandy. You are truly a psych, Dorothy, Sandy.
> >
> > I really wonder if "dorothy" has any idea of how *stupid* this looks?
> >
> > Men, no matter *how* randy seldom have the hots for women not only
> dead,
> > but cremated. So Bob's interest in her sad case has to stem from
> more
> > noble motives. Keith Hensosn
>

> I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all
> he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that.

Well, the money he is spending to help you and your fellow
co-religionists escape from the trap you have put yourselves
in is definitely the point. And helping people escape from
RPF is a pure and simple motive, as far as I'm concerned.


> But
> that's beside the point here.

Are you pointing to your head?


> The point is that he considers all women to be "just females". Hell, he
> comes across as one of those machos who probably thinks that all women
> are alike but that they have different faces so he can tell them apart.

What makes you think he's a cheese-covered corn chip?


> And just look for yourself how many of them he paid off so he can
> engage in what would likely be labelled sexual harrassment in any other
> forum.

What women did he pay off to sexually harrass someone, and how
can I get their numbers?

Captain Nerd

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In article <83trei$saj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

> (Mike. Stop frothing and wipe the spit off your face - the girls are
> giggling about you.)

Stop looking in the mirror, you've gotten your valences mixed up
again.


> Minton invested x amount of $s sofar.

Donated, given, I guess in your parallel dimension would be
considered "investing."


> He expected a certain return.

Actually, he's probably expecting a lot of returns, of people
to normal society. You can be one of them, you know.


> What he could not have known is the fact that the Church always wins.

Like in France? In Greece? In Germany?


> That is something he obviously was not told when he was started on this
> road.

Well, you've been paying through the nose for a bridge, so I guess
you're up on the "highway robbery" metaphors.


> Furthermore he cannot now admit having chosen the wrong game as he
> probably thinks that by doing so he would lose all his self-respect.

There is no game.


> This now leaves him in a rather difficult if not to say schizophrenic
> position; between a rock and a hard stone one might say.

Non-english speaker: The idiom is "rock and a hard *place*."

Your attempt is redundant, and says the same thing twice.


> He knows he is
> losing. He knows he should withdraw from this altogether. But he can't.

And you should hope he doesn't. Not many other people are as
concerned for your future as he is, and he doesn't even know
you.

As opposed to your "church", which knows you, and *isn't*
concerned for your future.


> Minton's unstable state of mind was depicted very clearly in the recent
> Dateline show.

Two people can look at a Picasso, one calling it art, the other
a waste of paint. You have no opinion of your own, having been
instructed to only repeat what you've been told.


> The future will show the next crazy steps he is going to take.

And wouldn't *your masters* love to know that one!


> Unless
> someone can help him, which is part of the problem as he does not want
> to be helped, as he does not trust any help from anyone.

I'm sure you and your masters would love to help yourselves
to his bank account. Why not avail yourselves of his hospitality
instead? You can go back to your families, and resume a normal
healthy state of mind, where you aren't looking over your shoulder
at the OSA, or living in fear of "wrong thinking" that would
put you at risk of ending up in the RPF, or worse, like Lisa
McPherson.

Cap.

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Captain Nerd

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In article <83tsce$sto$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, ze...@my-deja.com wrote:

> In article <83rlf9$om3$2...@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom8.netcom.com> wrote:
> > <83r7lu$21s$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
> > Organization:
> >
> > ze...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > snip
> >

> > > I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after
> all
> > > he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that.
> >

> > You *sure* this posting has uplines approval? If you make the claim
> that
> > Bob is in this because he thinks he can make lots of money and you can
> > back up the claim with (for example) spread sheets, don't you worry
> that a
> > lot of people will follow in his footsteps?
>
> There is a big difference between "thinking to make a lot of money" and
> actually making it. Minton continues to spend money. Has not made any
> recently. He is depleting his financial resources, and sooner or later
> they'll be all dried up.


Well, which is it, young feller? Either he's making money
off of others, or he's wasting his money. If he's making
money, isn't that the whole point of your church credo?
"Make money, make more money, make others produce so as to
make more money?"

If he's losing money, then pretty soon, he won't have
enough to be a threat to you, and he'll go away of his
own accord.

Why are you so concerned? What did your masters tell
you to post, that they felt would drive Minton away? Did
they tell you that all you had to do was say something,
and it would happen? Did you believe them when they
told you you had this incredible power over SPs here?

Perhaps you should rethink your purpose. And perhaps you
should realize that you have other options for your
life, besides living in fear that you'll be declared
a "PTS" for daring to think differently than you've
been told.


Cap.


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Blackhawck

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> I seriously doubt there are any noble motives on Bob's part: after all

> he is just in this for the money; it's as pure and simple as that. But


> that's beside the point here.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-kay ... (note the whopping degree of sarcasim).

Zebec, why on Earth do you think Milton is in this to make money?

Actually, the better question is: how do you think he could actually
make a profit by picketing? A book deal? A trust? A gift from the
heavens? What?

I may be not be a master of economics, but tell me how this "exquisite"
plot of his is going to actually work.

> The point is that he considers all women to be "just females". Hell,
he
> comes across as one of those machos who probably thinks that all women
> are alike but that they have different faces so he can tell them
apart.

That doesn't make him any different from Rush Limbaugh. :)

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