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Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Some reasons to surf small waves:
1)There are no big waves
2)It's been flat for waaay too long
3)Your parents in law(and grandparents) are coming over for the weekend
4)Your job sucks
5)Every ASer is getting HEAPS of good surf(or so it seams...)

Atleast I got wet. Think I got 4 waves in a 3 hour session, the best
being maybe hip high... Atleast the weather and water was nice,
so I surfed bootless for once. The jellyfishes saw their oppertunity.
Nice red rash. Just to put my 1m/5sec swell in perspective,
Stadt(still in Norway) had 4m/12seconds. Sometimes life sucks.

-H

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Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 10) Hanging five on a three foot wave is still fun.
>
I think I need a longboard in my quiver.

Still, I'd rather carve a larger wave.

-H

Greg Brady

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Hey I like small waves, most of what I surf is small waves and I built a
reputation on small waves.


Greg


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Mongolian Horde

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In article <V4NA3.157$je3...@news1.online.no>,

"Haavard N. Jakobsen" <jako...@protective.no> wrote:
> Some reasons to surf small waves:
> 1)There are no big waves
> 2)It's been flat for waaay too long
> 3)Your parents in law(and grandparents) are coming over for the
weekend
> 4)Your job sucks
> 5)Every ASer is getting HEAPS of good surf(or so it seams...)
>
Hey, Haaraard

before it gets too cold and dark up there, there should be some pretty
solid low pressure systems around Faroes aiming themselves at you
coming soon. You'll be getting some of the real Arctic swell coming to
visit soon as well.

GK


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Greg Brady

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990906211017...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...

>Greg said:
>>Hey I like small waves, most of what I surf is small waves and I built a
>>reputation on small waves.
>
>And your reputation is?
>
>Bob

Well I made a name for myself in surfing in the 70's and in Hawaii, most
people would have heard of me.
Actually I do a bit of windsurfing now and am a writer.
Although I'm planning a comeback.
Right now I'm getting in shape by bodysurfing also.

Greg Brady

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990906225905...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...

>>
>>Well I made a name for myself in surfing in the 70's and in Hawaii, most
>>people would have heard of me.
>
>
>Cool! I don't think I can name one surfer from the 70s. In fact, if they
>haven't been on cable I don't know who they are.
>
>So what is it that you did in small waves? When I went to California in
1974
>everyone but me was on a shortboard, or at least, it seemed that way.
>
>Bob

I did most of my Surfing on the south shore of Oahu.
Mostly windsurfing now.


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OOnee

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we in California sat out the '70's on the sidelines
watching our Australian masters :)

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Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Mongolian Horde <ghengi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>[snip]

> Hey, Haaraard
>
> before it gets too cold and dark up there, there should be some pretty
> solid low pressure systems around Faroes aiming themselves at you
> coming soon. You'll be getting some of the real Arctic swell coming to
> visit soon as well.
>

The thing is my spots only catch southern swell(and some western)
I live in the wrong place of Norway too...

Still, the low pressure systems are lineing up nicely and I *will*
get small(sigh) surf for uh, say the next 3 days.

It could be worse

-H

paula Martasian

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Best reason to surf small waves is:

Imagine living where there are no waves.

Barry

http://community.webtv.net/pjbmart/THEBEATENPATH


Will Borgeson

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Right, I'd rather ride a crisp, hollow 3-footer than a slow, mushy wave
twice the size or more, where you're slapping at it and/or doing the dread
and hideous Huntington Hop to stay in it.

Will

Greg Brady

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Will Borgeson wrote in message <7r360i$lkj$2...@mark.ucdavis.edu>...
I agree....thats why windsurfing in small waves is so enjoyable.
the wave can be closed out but really doesnt affect your ride.
Plus I can go faster on smaller waves than can regular surfers.

Mike G.

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In article <7r1q7g$8...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,

"Greg Brady" <GBr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Gleshna99 wrote in message
<19990906211017...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
> >Greg said:
> >>Hey I like small waves, most of what I surf is small waves and I
built a
> >>reputation on small waves.
> >
> >And your reputation is?
> >
> >Bob
>
> Well I made a name for myself in surfing in the 70's and in Hawaii,
most
> people would have heard of me.
> Actually I do a bit of windsurfing now and am a writer.
> Although I'm planning a comeback.
> Right now I'm getting in shape by bodysurfing also.
>
>
Are you Pete's brother that wiped out at Waikiki wearing a tiki around
your neck?

Mike G

(Sorry I couldn't resist)

Will Borgeson

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Greg Brady <GBr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

: I agree....thats why windsurfing in small waves is so enjoyable.


: the wave can be closed out but really doesnt affect your ride.
: Plus I can go faster on smaller waves than can regular surfers.

All that's why a fair number of "regular" surfers, in other words real
surfers, aren't too impressed with that level of sailboarding, or think
that it has much to do with surfing.

Will

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Will Borgeson

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

: On the wave going upwind, it sure feels like surfing to me.

Similar perhaps, but different too.

Plus, not having
: to paddle out is a bonus.

Yes, instead of getting some exercise paddling, you get to be part of the
rigging.

Going upwind is similar to surfing in some ways, but different in some
important other ways. Let's face it, the two activities are not the same.

: I have surfed and not windsurfed during the last two sessions, because
: wavesailing can be very hard on the equipment and shoulder area.

Right, this is one of the big differences - sailboarding gear can get
pricey. Also, sailboarding seems to cause more physical problems than
surfing does.

If I were a few decades younger I'd definitely take up sailboarding - the
Bodega Bay are is excellent for it, especially in spring and early summer,
when we have 20 knot plus winds just about every afternoon. But I'd just
as soon not inflict the abuse on these aging joints.

I'm always surprised how few sailboarders get around to trying it on the
ocean. Most seem content to tack back and forth across the flat water of
the harbor. They definitely get up some speed, but it looks pretty
repetitious from my standpoint, especially compared to surfing good, clean
head-high or better waves.

Will

Greg Brady

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990907172656...@ng-fk1.aol.com>...

>>>
>>Are you Pete's brother that wiped out at Waikiki wearing a tiki around
>>your neck?
>
>1. I don't have a clue as to what this means.
>
>2. Yes, I was tandem surfing at Waikiki once and did wipe out more than
once.
>I have not seen a Tiki in several decades.
>
>Bob


which one of you is Pete?

Greg Brady

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Will Borgeson wrote in message <7r3m6a$9a7$1...@mark.ucdavis.edu>...

Yeah especially at Seal Beach and Cabrillo we share the
same waves with the surfers!

Greg Brady

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990907215430...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...

>>which one of you is Pete?
>
>Geeze, is this another glasser? Please, keep the mask on while in the
>laminating room.
>
>Bob

Treat others as you would want to be treated!

Doug Hendry

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990906225905...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
>>

>>Well I made a name for myself in surfing in the 70's and in Hawaii, most
>>people would have heard of me.
>
>

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F DrLaurA

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hmm, i was thinking about purchasing windsurfing equipment....and all tis talk
about it behing hard on the shoulders has me thinking. I DO get rotator cuff
pains when i have really extended sessions... on my longboard.....would
windsurfing make those considerably worse...i ahte to say it, but that may keep
me from buying!?!

steve m

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Gleshna99 wrote:

Mike G. wrote:
: >>
: >Are you Pete's brother that wiped out at Waikiki wearing a tiki around
: >your neck?

: 1. I don't have a clue as to what this means.

: 2. Yes, I was tandem surfing at Waikiki once and did wipe out more than once.
: I have not seen a Tiki in several decades.

It's ok, Mike, I think I beat you to the reference about the
Brady Bunch episode, but I guess it was buried in a thread
somewhere else. So, at least *I* understand what you mean.
Let's see....I understand what you mean, and Bob doesn't have
a clue. I *guess* that's a good thing. At least from my point of view.

Later,
Steve
--
Signaturely challenged

Mike G.

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In article <7r4jgt$qvf$1...@nw003t.infi.net>,

Sorry I missed that Steve, and thanks for leting me know someone got the
reference.

Mike G.

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Will Borgeson

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

:>Yes, instead of getting some exercise paddling, you get to be part of the
:>rigging.

: Give me a BREAK! I assume you that sailing out can be very aerobic, at least
: here, where we have short period waves. Come to think of it, it doesn't always
: beat paddling out. I find that wavesailing is as hard on my system as full
: court basketball with young NBA wantabes.

"Assume" me all you want, but you're comparing apples and oranges. I
never said sailboarding isn't aerobic. I just said, as you'll see above,
that you get to be part of the rigging. Surfing's degree of being "hard
on my system" isn't a big part of its appeal for me.

: Well, have you tried it? For me, the only difference between shooting the
: curl, not big, on a right is that I have to hold up the boom and sail. You can
: even walk the nose, parallel stance, slide slip, etc.

Yes, I have tried it, albeit at the beginner level. And, as you
acknowledge above, you have to hold up the boom and sail. In other words,
you're part of the rigging, which I find inhibits hotdogging more than a
little. The amount of time required to set up and put away a sailboard is
another downside, imo.

: Surfing experience is definitely a bonus for wave sailing. However, if I hit
: the beach on a good cool day in the fall with not much light left, it is much
: more convenient to just surf and not worry about rigging up and down.

: I used to think that windsurfing was whimpy. Then I saw a guy do a front flip
: aka loop on tv. That caught my interest. Next, I stopped by the Gorge and had
: my butt kicked for about two hours. I was hooked.

Getting your butt kicked hooked you. OK.

: If I lived in southern California, I would want to windsurf during the blown
: out afternoons.

N. California's NW winds make S. Cal's look like soft breezes. I don't
think sailboarding's wimpy - it's just that, as mentioned before, I'm not
willing to risk the downtime from surfing, diving and other activities I
value more, and find to be less repetitious. Also, if there's a good
swell and I'm already surfed out from dawn patrol, sailboarding's the last
thing I'd want to do in the afternoon. Give me a ride on a mountain bike
to work the legs, or maybe a pool to swim a bit, then a guitar and a beer,
please, thank you.

BTW, I consider a front flip and a loop to be quite different maneuvers.
In my lexicon, a loop is a 360. But then, I'm a surfer. Wouldn't mind
being a sailor too, but I'd like that to be on a boat.

Will

SurfSargant

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The Evil Dr.Gleshna99 wrote:

>>Treat others as you would want to be treated!
>

>Say hello to my filter. Waste of time boy.
>
>Bob

Bob just curious how big is that Filter list by now? Must be huge....also seems
like a few made it off considering you are responding to their posts. Any Surf?


-PD

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Surfer Bob

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Will Borgeson wrote:

> Right, I'd rather ride a crisp, hollow 3-footer than a slow, mushy wave
> twice the size or more, where you're slapping at it and/or doing the dread
> and hideous Huntington Hop to stay in it.

Amen to that. And BTW there is nothing but *nothing* more dreadful and
hideous than the sight of a longboarder doing that frantic, lame hopping.
When I see folks hopping on longboards I think, "Jeez- all that planing
surface and he STILL can't get any glide going. Someone put that guy out of
his misery quickly!"

Just don't do it, folks. It is a vile and iniquitous practice that is an
affront to the sea gods and to style conscious surfers everywhere. You won't
find it on any page of the Book of Style.

Regards,
Surfer Bob

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mike

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> Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

:>Surfer Bob wrote:
>
> :>And BTW there is nothing but *nothing* more dreadful and


> :>hideous than the sight of a longboarder doing that frantic, lame
hopping.
>

> Second the motion, although I didn't see the earlier post and
> can't tell from the above who wrote it. It looks pretty lame to me on any
> board.

With all due respect, I thought you surfed for function rather than looks.
I'm not saying that the hop is necessarily more functional, but how it looks
should be irrelevant.

> : What? I would think that hopping would slow down a longboard?
>
> Well...all hopping does, as far as I can tell, is create these
> mini-fall lines that allow you to accumulate a minute amount of momentum.
> On a very small board, it may also prevent the thing simply sinking by
> keeping it moving. I suppose it's also "something to do" while the wave
> is mushing. But it seems to work as well, or as badly, on a log as on a
> little stick. Tell us guys, why do you do it?

The place I usually surf often breaks outside, hits a deeper area where it
stops breaking, and then reforms inside. Sometimes the "hop" gets me
through to the inside. Sure, if I was a better surfer, maybe I could get
through that section in a more "stylish" manner. But I'm not, so I don't.

> : If someone needs to hop alot, I would suggest a longer and heavier board
for
> : glide, or just add a sail.

Gonna go that route on my next longboard Bob (no, not a sail, more board
volume).

> How about a better wave?

C'mon Will. Do you think people choose bad waves intentionally?

>Or a better style?

I'm out there for fun and to fulfill my needs. If somebody finds my "style"
to be lacking (which is doubtful since there's usually nobody watching),
they can always look in another direction.

mike

>Or both?

Will Borgeson

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

:>And BTW there is nothing but *nothing* more dreadful and
:>hideous than the sight of a longboarder doing that frantic, lame hopping.

Second the motion, although I didn't see the earlier post and
can't tell from the above who wrote it. It looks pretty lame to me on any
board.

: What? I would think that hopping would slow down a longboard?

Well...all hopping does, as far as I can tell, is create these
mini-fall lines that allow you to accumulate a minute amount of momentum.
On a very small board, it may also prevent the thing simply sinking by
keeping it moving. I suppose it's also "something to do" while the wave
is mushing. But it seems to work as well, or as badly, on a log as on a
little stick. Tell us guys, why do you do it?

: If someone needs to hop alot, I would suggest a longer and heavier board for


: glide, or just add a sail.

How about a better wave? Or a better style? Or both?

Will

Will Borgeson

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mike <mi...@wlheye.jsei.ucla.edu> wrote:

: With all due respect, I thought you surfed for function rather than looks.


: I'm not saying that the hop is necessarily more functional, but how it looks
: should be irrelevant.

Disagree completely. I surf for fun more than for function or form, but
they matter too. I'd place function over form, but form matters hugely as
well, to me, in surfing. Fortunately, most functional maneuvers are also
fun, and mostly look good to me. Surfing is in many was akin to a dance,
and form or style is of course quite central to dance. For example,
smooth but radical carving, timed functionally for that particular wave,
looks way better to me than a zillion ampy turns executed regardless of
what the wave's doing. Also, if a wave starts to poop out and there's no
tasty section inside of the flat spot, why bother?

: The place I usually surf often breaks outside, hits a deeper area where it


: stops breaking, and then reforms inside. Sometimes the "hop" gets me
: through to the inside. Sure, if I was a better surfer, maybe I could get
: through that section in a more "stylish" manner. But I'm not, so I don't.

No need to put yourself down. What the hop's probably doing for you is
keeping a shortboard from sinking in the flat spot, by keeping it moving.
A higher-volume board might not have the problem. Maybe you could do some
turns instead of the hop, to keep the momentum up. On a longboard, glide
will usually get a surfer through flat spots. But again the inside reform
has to be pretty nice to get me to bother in such a situation. In other
words, mere length of ride doesn't matter that much to me.

: C'mon Will. Do you think people choose bad waves intentionally?

Sorry, I meant a better surf spot, or a better day at that spot. But that
raises an interesting point. I think wave selection is a key factor in
how rides end up, and I think we should all be getting better and better
at choosing good waves.

: I'm out there for fun and to fulfill my needs. If somebody finds my "style"


: to be lacking (which is doubtful since there's usually nobody watching),
: they can always look in another direction.

No need to be defensive. To me the hop feels weird as well as looks lame,
so it's not a habit I want to acquire. YMMV, obviously, so hop away if
that's your choice. I'm just saying there are other ways to get past flat
spots, and that they feel better and look better to me than the hop.

Will

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Will Borgeson

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

:> Surfing is in many was akin to a dance,


:>and form or style is of course quite central to dance.

: This is single most unmacho thing that I have ever read on this ng.

Yeah well...some of us are secure enough in our masculinity that we can
relate to such concepts as beauty in the motions of surfer and wave
dancing together. And some aren't. Takes all kinds, I guess.

Will


Neal Miyake

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Will Borgeson (szbo...@logan.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

Agreed. Flowing with the wave is similar to flowing with music. Certain
surfers have this fluid grace that is just awesome to watch (like Makani).

sponge (not ashamed to do the sideslip Boogie)

"Found you can dance and still look tough anyway." --Billy Joel

m@rk

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Will Borgeson <szbo...@logan.ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> :> Surfing is in many was akin to a dance,
> :>and form or style is of course quite central to dance.
>
> : This is single most unmacho thing that I have ever read on this ng.
>
> Yeah well...some of us are secure enough in our masculinity that we can
> relate to such concepts as beauty in the motions of surfer and wave
> dancing together. And some aren't. Takes all kinds, I guess.

Take a look at gymnastics for instance......


;^O

~~~~~m@r|<
Proud Member, The Church of Surfing Since 1983
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Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Surfing is in many was akin to a dance,
> >and form or style is of course quite central to dance.
>
> This is single most unmacho thing that I have ever read on this ng.
>
I'd rather dance a jig than sit in the sofa with a beerbelly.
How's that for macho?

Still, I don't dance. But when I teach the kids at the volleyballclub
that it's more like danceing then boxing, they know what I meen.

-H


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Will Borgeson

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

:>Yeah well...some of us are secure enough in our masculinity that we can


:>relate to such concepts as beauty in the motions of surfer and wave
:>dancing together. And some aren't. Takes all kinds, I guess.

: Well said. Of course, as long as you leave out the music, I think it is
okay. : Bob

Whoa, I'm all relieved here. Not.

"Leave out the music?" What's that about? The rhythm is in the wave,
there's drums in the crunch of whitewash, and you are/you improvise the
melody. The ride is the dance. Just one way of looking at it.

This gender paranoia bit...fear of the feminine side of things...fear also
of music because it's somehow perceived as feminine...is downright weird!
Whether it's Wagner or Sublime or Dick Dale or the Allman Bros, music can
be ballsy as hell, if it wants to be. And, I think music and surfing go
together hand in glove. How many of us don't hear music when we're
waiting for a set? Like, the last tune you heard before you paddled out?
Or simply a favorite tune? Not many, I'll bet.

Will

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Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >How many of us don't hear music when we're
> >waiting for a set?
>
> My hand is raised.
>
> Bob

Uhhmmm, usually I don't. Yesterday I did.
Started singing to myself. Strange...

-H

Will Borgeson

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Haavard N. Jakobsen <jako...@protective.no> wrote:

: Uhhmmm, usually I don't. Yesterday I did.


: Started singing to myself. Strange...

If you don't mind my asking, what song?

Will

steve m

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Will Borgeson wrote:
: Haavard N. Jakobsen <jako...@protective.no> wrote:

: : Uhhmmm, usually I don't [hear music]. Yesterday I did.


: : Started singing to myself. Strange...

: If you don't mind my asking, what song?

How many people do this? My guess is that it may be lots.
I'm not talking about singing at the top of your lungs; I'm
talking more about just so only you can hear it, or maybe
even just sing it in your mind without vocalizing.

I do it all the time. One lyric, which I have mentioned
before, is "Bring it on, bring it on, bring it on." when
I see some good sets on the horizon rolling in.

In a recent surf report, I mentioned being tossed around
in the water like a message in a bottle. That was exactly
my feeling when in the water, so when that thought occurred
to me, I naturally started singing "message in a bottle"
by The Police.

The lyric I used to have in my sig is another one
I often sing while surfing. It is by Midnight Oil and
slightly paraphrased (I think) goes: "...a place where
you forget, you get wet, it's free/ You get high, you're
alive.....Surf's up tonight."

Sometimes the situation dictates the songs I sing, but
other times it's just what is in my head that I had
been listening too recently. All I know, is I *never*
make it through a session without singing (or at least
*thinking*) a few songs. Music and surfing definitely
are closely related; it's just more obvious to some than
others.

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Will Borgeson

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Gleshna99 <gles...@aol.com> wrote:

: Might I suggest that you musical longboarders consider glassing a CD player
: into your next board. Then you could wear headsets plug into a jack ( this
: might be a problem? ) and listen to tunes as you paddle out and even surf in
: some conditions.

Yeah, there was a dork who used to paddle out with a waterproof "personal
stereo". We called him "Loony Toons."

Frankly, the music in one's own head is a lot more fun, and safer.

I don't ride longboards exclusively, by the way. When it gets big and
crunchy, I switch out to a gunny thruster.

Will


Neal Miyake

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Gleshna99 (gles...@aol.com) wrote:
: Might I suggest that you musical longboarders consider glassing a CD player
: into your next board. Then you could wear headsets plug into a jack ( this
: might be a problem? ) and listen to tunes as you paddle out and even surf in
: some conditions.

Those mp3 players would be perfect for bringing into the water. No moving
parts, small, good sound. I think you can buy those things for like less
than $100 now. Don't know how to waterproof the player or headphones,
though.

sponge

Jules Hummon

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>How many of us don't hear music when we're
>waiting for a set?


Just yesterday, kind of dumb, but true:

"When you're happy and you know it, clap your hands"...

:)

Fortunately, it didn't last long (stupid tune), but the sentiment
was there.

Jules

OOnee

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Will Borgeson <szbo...@runner.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message news:7rc3id$jlj$1...@mark.ucdavis.edu...
> <SNIP>> I don't ride longboards exclusively, by the way. When it gets big and

> crunchy, I switch out to a gunny thruster.
>

yeah right :)


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SURFGEO

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>Well, some swimmers use head sets, so it is possible. In fact, a kind of
>surf
>helmet with a light, CD player, and camera holder might be just the ticket.
>
>Bob

bob, you would look real swift and nifty in a get-up like that. dont forget
the little propeller on the top.

did your mommy dress you up in shorts, a bow tie and suspenders when you were a
kid?

what?
you say she dressed you like that all the way through high school?

why am i not surprised?

surfgeo
"no soup for me!"

SurfSargant

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surfgeo wrote:

>helmet with a light, CD player, and camera holder might be just the ticket.
>>
>>Bob
>
>bob, you would look real swift and nifty in a get-up like that. dont forget
>the little propeller on the top.
>
>did your mommy dress you up in shorts, a bow tie and suspenders when you
>were a
>kid?
>
>what?
>you say she dressed you like that all the way through high school?
>
>why am i not surprised?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
-PD

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gleshna99 wrote:

>>BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>Looks like another punk to me, SS.
>
>Bob


How much more abuse can u take. SG just chews you up and spits you out and you
just keep coming back for more.
hey SG what's that bait called? BY the way blowboy you need to use a a bigger
piece of bait then that sad little peice you casted out.

NOSURF4U.


-PD

Tom Keener

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>Will Borgeson wrote:
>: If you don't mind my asking, what song?

Since I have a short attention span, a horrible memory for song
lyrics, and can't sing for squat, (how many girls have told _you_ to
stop singing,) I find myself just mumbling snippets of songs, usually
old surf songs.

"Let's go surfing now, everybody's learning how, come on a surfari
with meeee be bop a lula catch a wave an you're sittin on top of the
world eeeeooooorrow wipeout! do-do do-do do-do do-do batman! she's the
terror of Colorado Boulevard..."

"Hey, Tom! Shut up! You're scaring away all the waves!"

Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com

Will Borgeson

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OOnee <oo...@home.com> wrote:
: Will Borgeson <szbo...@runner.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message news:7rc3id$jlj$1...@mark.ucdavis.edu...

:> <SNIP>> I don't ride longboards exclusively, by the way. When it gets big and
:> crunchy, I switch out to a gunny thruster.
:>

: yeah right :)

I see your smiley but sense mockery...ask Surfer Bob or Ric
Harwood...they've seen me catch + make double over + reef on a gunny
funshape tri-fin.

Will

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OOnee

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sorry, my bad :(

Will Borgeson <szbo...@runner.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message news:7reguu$moo$2...@mark.ucdavis.edu...

Ben Blake

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>Gleshna99)

>Gleshna99)

Dr. Bob,
if you give me
an idea what
this site is
all about I'd
really like that.
Why won't you
help a brother?

http://www.superbad.com


ben blake
i'm in the tube and you are not

http://members.aol.com/whirlawhip/page/index.htm


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Spindrift

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In article <7rbe1c$sf$1...@nw003t.infi.net>, steve m
<ste...@sl001.infi.net> wrote:
>Will Borgeson wrote:
>: Haavard N. Jakobsen <jako...@protective.no> wrote:
>
>: : Uhhmmm, usually I don't [hear music]. Yesterday I did.
>: : Started singing to myself. Strange...
>
>: If you don't mind my asking, what song?
>
> How many people do this? My guess is that it may be lots.
>I'm not talking about singing at the top of your lungs; I'm
>talking more about just so only you can hear it, or maybe
>even just sing it in your mind without vocalizing.
>
> I do it all the time. One lyric, which I have mentioned
>before, is "Bring it on, bring it on, bring it on." when
>I see some good sets on the horizon rolling in.
>

Back in the 70's my friend Frank used to talk about having
"Storm Troopers" by Ted Nugent stuck in his head..."Get
ready, Get ready, storm troopers coming..." (substitute
'storm troopers' with 'big waves')

I remember an article years ago in a surf rag talking about
the 10 worst songs to have stuck in your head waiting
during a lull... I think #1 was "Ebony and Ivory" with
Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder...

I flash on music in the water all the time...

I surfed at Secos this morning pre-dawn and couldn't help
but think of Sheryl Crow singing "'Til the sun comes up
over Santa Monica Blvd" as I watched the sun rise over the
Santa Monica Mtns.

~Spindrift

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SURFGEO

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>Dejavu. Didn't we go through this once before. As I mentioned, the cover
>page
>is against my values. I have a very strong adversion to neon lighting and
>representations there of.
>

whazzamattabob? whip is calling you out on this and you are afraid ?

i didnt know there were mormans in indiana .

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>You are one damn, dumb, unself-disciplined, s.o.b., punk, Yankee pretending
>to
>be a Texan that is addicted to wantabe cheap shots on the the internet.
>There
>is a rather big difference about getting called on on a surfing photo versus
>just looking at a site.
>
>The only reason I respond to this ShoulderGeo drivel is as a service to other
>alt.surf posters that won't be distracted by the above pathetic sludge while
>he
>is busy busting his brain cell how to "get even" and save face. Damn boy, as
>I
>have said, you should just beat yourself with a bat at home and save everyone
>time here.

way to go bob! thats the way to express yourself! keep opening up like that,
dont bottle it up. i think we can get you over these emotional scars wrought
upon you by those pediphile lifeguards when you were in jr. high. now, take a
deeeeeeeep breath, a nice shot of whiskey, and do it again.

you DO drink whiskey, dontcha bob?

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SURFGEO

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>Gee, wantabe cheap shots, but no Toes on Nose surf pictures. Sorry, your
>time
>is up. I now leave you to chatter mindlessly with the other slow sophomores.
>
>Bob

are you leaving us again bob? awwwww....we wuz just startin to have fun with
ya!

so AS is nothing but slow sophomores huh.......hmmmmm....bob, you are just one
of those guys who cant fit in anywhere. you lack the intelligence to even see
how ignorant you really are. its like a one lap race around a track - the gun
goes off, everyone takes off but you. your mind has no idea whats going on and
cant think quick enough to grasp the situation....suddenly, you snap. you look
behind you and see everyone running toward you, you look down and see the
start/finish line, and assume you have won! you trot off the field high-fiving
yourself while everyone else just scratches their heads.

you are seriously lost, my friend.

m@rk

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Gleshna99 wrote:

> >How much more abuse can u take.
>

> This is your contribution to alt.surfing? To attempt to punk up on someone.
> Son, you are a sad case.


Bob bob bobo boob bawb.........


You don't want ME to intervene here do you?

Remember 'BK' (aka: BIGKOOK)?

Do you remember the page I did?

I can fit one to your size if you'd like.

~~~~~m@r|<
Proud Member, The Church of Surfing Since 1983
http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/sisom
Printed on 100% recycled electrons

m@rk

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Gleshna99 wrote:

> You are one damn, dumb, unself-disciplined, s.o.b., punk,

and you're a "surfer" from Indiana.

> Yankee pretending to
> be a Texan


Alright, that's it w/ yur Yankee bullshit.

Someone born and raised in Texas is a 'Texan',
such as I'm a Jersey boy and you are a kook.


> The only reason I respond to this ShoulderGeo drivel is as a service to other
> alt.surf posters that won't be distracted by the above pathetic sludge

I'm distracted by you not him.
He's trying to contribute and you're
asking retard questions daily.

> while he
> is busy busting his brain cell how to "get even" and save face. Damn
boy, as I
> have said, you should just beat yourself with a bat at home and save everyone
> time here.
>

> Speaking of surfing photos: T-O-N.
> Now this is a call out, an open call out.

Do Y-O-U have have a pic of Y-O-U doing T-O-N?
Now this is a call out, an open call out.
<don't even waist your breath asking me,
I'm not applicable at this point in time>


> Come on Yankee white boy, afraid of a little black lady on a Lake.


I heard you're a fat, white, & 50 something.

But I'll beleive the former.

>So far, the
> answer ........


.......will be when you answer mine! ;-|

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trolla99 wrote

>>How much more abuse can u take.

>This is your contribution to alt.surfing?

No just to you...

>To attempt to punk up on someone.

Please explain Lakeboy I don't understand you. Your the one trolling lakeboy

T-O-N


-PD

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>This is my response to what I assume is a threat and to the rest of you and
>your attitude:
>
>Take a long walk off a short pier.
>
>Bob

boy that bob. he is one quick individual. yesiree, very quick with those
stinging barbs.

SURFGEO

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>> Do Y-O-U have have a pic of Y-O-U doing T-O-N?
>
>Ask your buddy SG. He has been avoiding this for quite awhile.
>
>Bob
>

bob, i am really tired of this. are you senile or something? no bob, i dont
have a picture of me on the nose. happy? does that make me a poser? i do ride
the nose, bob, but have been longboarding only 2 years now. i am sorry that i
am not a celebrity who can afford to have photographers follow me around and
take pictures of me surfing so that i can have pictures of every possible thing
i can do on a wave. i am usually the one taking pictures. i have been surfing
since 1973 bob, and from the moronic drivel that leaks from your orifice i have
vastly more experience riding many more and bigger waves in far more places
than you have. so stop with the ridiculous calling out, bob. is this the
response you wanted? is this what you have been hopelessly trolling me for the
last week on? if so, believe me, this response is far from classifying as
being hooked. its more like you cast so many times you eventually foul-hooked
me in the back and i pulled you into the water and gave you a damn good, long,
hard knuckle noogie on your head, IF you have any hair.

i have surfed with 7 people from this group in the last 2 months, if i were a
poser i think the world would know it by now.

bite me, sincerely bob, i like you better when you were dead. at least you
showed signs of humor then.

"he died surfing some special wave in california and was wiped out into a set
of pilings"

now THAT was funny!

Natural Born Cynic

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990912081258...@ng-cf1.aol.com>...
>
>> Bob bob bobo boob bawb........
>.
>The name is Bob. I have not initiated any problem here with you, but you
have
>with me.

>
> I can fit one to your size if you'd like.>
>
>This is my response to what I assume is a threat and to the rest of you and
>your attitude:
>
>Take a long walk off a short pier.
>
>Bob

Bawb, are you retarded?

Natural Born Cynic

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SURFGEO wrote in message <19990912112329...@ng-cf1.aol.com>...

>>This is my response to what I assume is a threat and to the rest of you
and
>>your attitude:
>>
>>Take a long walk off a short pier.
>>
>>Bob
>
>boy that bob. he is one quick individual. yesiree, very quick with those
>stinging barbs.
>
>surfgeo
>"no soup for me!"


Or how about
"Make a Surf Sacrifice, Throw Yourself off a Cliff"

SurfSargant

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lakeboy99 wrote:

>Well, I see that SG has a little punk gang now.

Wrong. You called my team out...you will pay!


-PD

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Gleshna99 wrote in message <19990912145530...@ng-cj1.aol.com>...

>>lakeboy99 wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I see that SG has a little punk gang now.
>>
>>Wrong. You called my team out...you will pay!
>
>
>I have responded to SGs constant insults and nothing more. However, if you
>feel like Mr. Tough guy with three on one. Well, I am sure everyone sees
that
>you are truly a man.
>
>Whatever. Apparently I have been fishing for punk behavior and found
three.
>
>So, the only thing I am interested in is this: What did SG have to say
about
>T-O-N? I noticed that you have seemed to have followed his lead in
ignoring
>this. If you don't have anything to say about surfing or the T-O-N that I
>privately gave SG weeks ago then save your keystrokes. I am just too bored
to
>respond.
>
>T-O-N I did this in private to help SG save face but apparently he has some
>sort of a character defect that causes him to keep up a fantasy of personal
>attacks on me and even the lifeguards that took us on trips at one time.
>
>All of this started when I made a comment about how we used to look at
"playing
>the role" versus all the worries with "posers" today. Apparently SG took
it as
>an insult. I didn't even know he was into playing the role. It is fine
with
>me if he pretends to be a Texan and has a SexWax sticker on his car bumper.
>
>So if you wish any further response from me then talk surfing or SG T-O-N.
>
>Bob


Bawb in all realities, a guy who surfs a lake....then weighs in with all his
"LIMITED''
surf experience from California in his teen years, to readily make blanket
statements
about Surf Size in California, and the apparent power of the breaks there is
a KOOK.
Give up the nonsense, as in focusing on your past, or take the conseqeunces.

BTW, BAWBY, I spent my first six years out of H.S. surfing the North Shore
of Oahu, completed
the surfers dream, etc, etc,then moved back to Southern California, but you
dont seeing me going around making Comments and trying to be an Expert
about a place I havent been back to in almost 20 years.....
All the same, I have more experience in Hawaii, than you ever did in
California.

Bawb, you ACT the KOOK and POSER, --and you are paying the PRICE!

Tom Keener

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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:18:52 +1700, Spindrift
<rflNO...@jetlink.net> wrote:

>I remember an article years ago in a surf rag talking about
>the 10 worst songs to have stuck in your head waiting
>during a lull... I think #1 was "Ebony and Ivory" with
>Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder...
>

Incense & Peppermint.

Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com

OOnee

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Tom Keener <keen...@cts.com_but_not_this_part> wrote in message news:37dbac9b....@nntp.cts.com...

Tuvan throat singing . . . .
http://www.sciam.com/1999/0999issue/0999levin.html
sun propeller . . . .
http://www.huunhuurtu.com/

Doc

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OOnee <oo...@home.com> wrote in message
news:MiVC3.2837$tJ1....@news.rdc2.occa.home.com...

Mahahahah! Cool! If I could do this...
http://www.sciam.com/1999/0999issue/IMG/track4.mov ...there is no way I'm
not getting any wave I want. So, I'm practicing..... and there are those
who would say that's how I sound anyways... Love the instruments they play,
including; 'dazhaanning khavy (rattle made from a bull scrotum and sheep
kneebones)'.

Actually, after reading Ralph Leighton's 'Tuva or Bust' concerning the last
few years of Richard Feynmann, I got somewhat interested in Tuvan
throat-singing. Thanks for the links....

Doc....... (unpronounceable sounds.......) .........


>
>

the Real Doll

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SURFTWIT, you have just written a better
description of yourself than I ever could have.
If you could just take two steps back from
yourself, and read your posts, you would
recognise that _you_ are the subject exactly
fitting the words you wrote below.

C'mon, SURFTWIT, it's time to 'fess up.
Someone has _got_ to be paying you to continually
make such a complete and utter fool of yourself.
I mean, I didn't use to pay much attention to Bob.
But when pitted against your idiocy, he suddenly
looked like a champion. Maybe he's the one paying
you. It's inconceivable that someone could be as
truly moronic as you present yourself to be in this ng.

SURFGEO - the guy who revealed Bob's genius.


SURFGEO wrote:

> <snipped>


> bob, you are just one
> of those guys who cant fit in anywhere. you lack the intelligence to even see
> how ignorant you really are. its like a one lap race around a track - the gun
> goes off, everyone takes off but you. your mind has no idea whats going on and
> cant think quick enough to grasp the situation....suddenly, you snap. you look
> behind you and see everyone running toward you, you look down and see the
> start/finish line, and assume you have won! you trot off the field high-fiving
> yourself while everyone else just scratches their heads.
>
> you are seriously lost, my friend.
>

OOnee

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http://feynman.com/tuva/
idle surf the net for me, have hazy memory of seeing
the name before, dunno if you noticed article had above
link.

Doc <jfm...@sod.the.spam.capecod.net> wrote in message news:4XWC3.6568$N77.5...@typ11.nn.bcandid.com...
>
<SNIP>>

SURFGEO

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bite me lem

Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Neal Miyake <spo...@iav.com> wrote in message
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> Gleshna99 (gles...@aol.com) wrote:
> : Might I suggest that you musical longboarders consider glassing a CD
player
> : into your next board. Then you could wear headsets plug into a jack
this
> : might be a problem? ) and listen to tunes as you paddle out and even
surf in
> : some conditions.
>
> Those mp3 players would be perfect for bringing into the water. No moving
> parts, small, good sound. I think you can buy those things for like less
> than $100 now. Don't know how to waterproof the player or headphones,
> though.
>
Get a rubber or two an pull it over the player,
then tie it up over the chord and put some
silicone compound in the knot. Easy!

-H

Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Tom Keener <keen...@cts.com_but_not_this_part> wrote in message
news:37dbac9b....@nntp.cts.com...
> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:18:52 +1700, Spindrift
> <rflNO...@jetlink.net> wrote:
>
> >I remember an article years ago in a surf rag talking about
> >the 10 worst songs to have stuck in your head waiting
> >during a lull... I think #1 was "Ebony and Ivory" with
> >Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder...
> >
I rate any advertising song worse then that.
Now, having that stuck in your head is BAD.

-H

Haavard N. Jakobsen

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Spindrift <rflNO...@jetlink.net> wrote in message
news:03184ecc...@usw-ex0106-041.remarq.com...
> In article <7rbe1c$sf$1...@nw003t.infi.net>, steve m
> <ste...@sl001.infi.net> wrote:
> >Will Borgeson wrote:
> >: Haavard N. Jakobsen <jako...@protective.no> wrote:
> >
> >: : Uhhmmm, usually I don't [hear music]. Yesterday I did.
> >: : Started singing to myself. Strange...
> >
> >: If you don't mind my asking, what song?
> >
Can't remeber, but it could have been
"always look on the bright side of life".
It *should* have been....

-H

Mongolian Horde

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Somebody wrote

> > Tuvan throat singing . . . .
> > http://www.sciam.com/1999/0999issue/0999levin.html
> > sun propeller . . . .
> > http://www.huunhuurtu.com/

Saw Huun Huur Tu live last year. Killer! Download one of the audio
clips. Guess what: No synths!
--
Ghengis Khan

Freedom is freedom from the need to be free.
Free your mind and your ass will follow
The kingdom of heaven is within.
+-:-)


Will Borgeson

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As you can see, not everyone's all that impressed with nose rides. Now, a
nose ride in an overhead barrel is another story. But simply going up
there isn't all that big a deal. It's basically a stall. Feels awesome,
to be sure, since it's a lot like walking on water without having to take
steps. What's lame imo is when people insist on walking up there at the
wrong time (on the shoulder), pearl, and fall off.

Running to the nose is also a cool way to catch a wave you almost missed.
Then, if you're good, you can turn from the nose, then ease back into the
sweet spot for max trim.

For a long time, I really admired the surfing of Terry Jones, a Ventura CA
surfer who rode for Tom Hale and worked in his shop. Terry had a way of
dancing up and down the board so gracefully...always in trim...cross steps
up and back. Won quite a few contests, although his style was very
soulful. When in the shop, he was usually to be found playing some tasty
music on guitar. Wonder what ever happened to him.

Will

Foon

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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Tom Keener wrote:

> >I remember an article years ago in a surf rag talking about
> >the 10 worst songs to have stuck in your head waiting
> >during a lull... I think #1 was "Ebony and Ivory" with
> >Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder...
> >

> Incense & Peppermint.
>

100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall.

I had to start over after every wave. :(

-Foon

OOnee

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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forgot to say I found link at Scripting News . . . .
http://www.scripting.com/
I have found cool links there before, one time a
webpage for "heat mount sensors" that mooed.

OOnee <oo...@home.com> wrote in message news:MiVC3.2837$tJ1....@news.rdc2.occa.home.com...

> Tom Keener <keen...@cts.com_but_not_this_part> wrote in message news:37dbac9b....@nntp.cts.com...
> > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:18:52 +1700, Spindrift

> > <rflNO...@jetlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >I remember an article years ago in a surf rag talking about
> > >the 10 worst songs to have stuck in your head waiting
> > >during a lull... I think #1 was "Ebony and Ivory" with
> > >Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder...
> > >
> > Incense & Peppermint.
> >

> > Tom Keener
> > keensurf_at_cts_dot_com

the Real Doll

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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The Lemming is busily relocating from the beach
to his new place at the point. Why don't _you_
find a way to remove yourself from as for a wee
spell SURFMANIC; look up the meanings of
"perception" and "discernment," and give all your
nasty fixations and obsessions a chance to loosen
their deathgrip on you.
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